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InfoWorld on Redline Smalltalk

by horrido

http://www.infoworld.com/article/2867543/java/redline-smalltalk-bridging-sm… <http://www.infoworld.com/article/2867543/java/redline-smalltalk-bridging-sm…> Amber and Redline are vital *strategic* projects for Smalltalk. One is for the browser and one is for the JVM. Amber and Redline are *nascent* projects. Hopefully, they will be ready to greet newcomers in the latter half of this year. People are working hard, so please be patient. The Redline project needs contributors. I urge people to step up. It would be tragic if this project failed. /We need a Smalltalk on the JVM!/ 2015 will the Year of Smalltalk. Generalissimo -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/InfoWorld-on-Redline-Smalltalk-tp4800172.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Jan. 17, 2015

Blitzkrieg!

by horrido

http://horridohobbies.tumblr.com/ <http://horridohobbies.tumblr.com/> *Today is the one-month anniversary of the SRP.* We have made good progress, but there is still much work ahead of us. Shortly, I will be seeking corporate sponsorship. As well, I'm trying to coordinate activities with the Smalltalk Foundation. Later this summer, I will be pushing my "Small Minds Initiative," a sub-campaign of the SRP to get Smalltalk into the classroom. I will begin with the Toronto District School Board. Are we pumped yet?! Generalissimo -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Blitzkrieg-tp4800165.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Jan. 17, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Manners on the list?

by Ben Coman

My favourite reference is Eric S Raymond's "How To Ask Smart Questions". http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html. Now actually its a friendlier community here that the ones referred to in that reference, but it provides some good philosophies to adhere to. Reporting back success as well a failure is really good practice, since it is gratifying to know it was worth the time to provide advice, and also the next person wanting to do same thing will find this in their web search. Where the histories start getting long, trim them to just the parts you are referring to. I vary whether I respond to separate posts or as a single post. Using separate posts you should trim history more. "Perhaps" I use separate posts in the middle of discussion and a single compiled post as a final summary - but really there is a lot of latitude here. and btw, I think you're ahead of the game asking as you did. cheers -ben On Sat, Jan 17, 2015 at 3:10 PM, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: > When you have a technical questions or request for information just do > not think. > - look on google > - if not found ask > > Report problems with precision without thinking too much. Feedback is > always important. > > Then if you know the answer to a question (of somebody else) or found it > (because this is a challenge to answer questions and a really good way to > learn) do not hesitate to post > > Stef > > Le 17/1/15 00:48, Laura Risani a Ã©crit : > > Hi all, > > I really appreciate the dedication and effort someone generously put > into answering a question. i want neither to waste such a lovely people's > time by saying irrelevant things nor to sound harsh or dry to them. > > It doesn't kind of feel right saying nothing when someone gives me a > rather lengthly answer, unless it was the tacit agreement. > > So i'm facing questions whether or not to make a post, because i'm not > sure which are the right/usual manners for this particular mail-list form > of communication. > > My questions boils down to : how/when to provide feedback? > If for example i ask a question and receive answers from three people. > Should i always answer back > ...commenting whether if it worked or not? > ...only if it didn't solve my problem or if i had something useful for > solving it to add? (like Stack Overflow) > Should i answer back in a separate post to each of them or in a single > post to all? > Are one-line smalltalk comments alright here or should i avoid them? > > Any other advice on manners is also welcome. A written manifest would be > nice :) > Best, > Laura > > > > > >

Jan. 17, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Seaside and JQuery/JQueryUI

by stepharo

http://book.seaside.st/book/web-20/jquery ?? Le 16/1/15 20:18, sergio_101 a Ã©crit : > > at one point, there was a section of seaside that demonstrated using > jquery and jqueryui with seaside.. along with code examples. that was > SUPER helpful. > > I can't seem to find that anywhere. does anyone know if it's still > part of seaside? > > thanks!

Jan. 17, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] InfoWorld on Redline Smalltalk

by stepharo

Le 15/1/15 13:39, Johan Fabry a Ã©crit : > I donât know the entire context of the discussion (iâm not following > Pharo-dev, where this came from apparently.) But I would like to point > out that it is wrong to think of Spec as an abandoned project! Spec is > here to stay, and hopefully for a very long time. > >> On Jan 15, 2015, at 09:08, Esteban A. Maringolo <emaringolo(a)gmail.com >> <mailto:emaringolo@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> I wouldn't do a PR campaign mentioning VW's Pollock UI, Pharo's Spec >> or any other abandoned project whatsoever. +1. Especially since we are in the period of the year where I'm much more important at planning budget and resources than anything else :)

Jan. 17, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Manners on the list?

by stepharo

When you have a technical questions or request for information just do not think. - look on google - if not found ask Report problems with precision without thinking too much. Feedback is always important. Then if you know the answer to a question (of somebody else) or found it (because this is a challenge to answer questions and a really good way to learn) do not hesitate to post Stef Le 17/1/15 00:48, Laura Risani a Ã©crit : > Hi all, > > I really appreciate the dedication and effort someone generously put > into answering a question. i want neither to waste such a lovely > people's time by saying irrelevant things nor to sound harsh or dry to > them. > > It doesn't kind of feel right saying nothing when someone gives me a > rather lengthly answer, unless it was the tacit agreement. > > So i'm facing questions whether or not to make a post, because i'm not > sure which are the right/usual manners for this particular mail-list > form of communication. > > My questions boils down to : how/when to provide feedback? > If for example i ask a question and receive answers from three people. > Should i always answer back > ...commenting whether if it worked or not? > ...only if it didn't solve my problem or if i had something useful for > solving it to add? (like Stack Overflow) > Should i answer back in a separate post to each of them or in a single > post to all? > Are one-line smalltalk comments alright here or should i avoid them? > > Any other advice on manners is also welcome. A written manifest would > be nice :) > Best, > Laura > > > >

Jan. 17, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Manners on the list?

by Stephan Eggermont

Hi Laura >It doesn't kind of feel right saying nothing when someone gives me >a rather lengthly answer, unless it was the tacit agreement. Feedback is appreciated. Thanks for asking. >So i'm facing questions whether or not to make a post, because i'm not sure which are the >right/usual manners for this particular mail-list form of communication. Every mailing list is slightly different. Some have many posts, some have little. Some are very focused, others less so. In general, the regulars will let you know if something doesn't fit well. You can see how that works in the pharo-dev list in the InfoWorld on Redline Smalltalk thread, where Marcus asks if he should create a pharo-talk mailing list. That was an indirect way to say that the discussion should probably move elsewhere. After repeating it and getting some support for it, the discussion started moving. >My questions boils down to : how/when to provide feedback? >If for example i ask a question and receive answers from three people. >Should i always answer back >...commenting whether if it worked or not? >...only if it didn't solve my problem or if i had something >useful for solving it to add? (like Stack Overflow) This is the list of an open source community. Open source thrives on appreciation. In SO, people can show appreciation by voting. The strict moderation makes it very difficult to create a community. You can see that in the meta site of SO. We have worldwide participants, so a hiatus of a day (or a weekend) in discussions is expected. We like feedback. Feedback motivates. >Should i answer back in a separate post to each of them or in a single post to all? >Are one-line smalltalk comments alright here or should i avoid them? If you can fit the response well in one post that is preferred, especially in longer discussions. Please cut down the quotations in your response to the relevant parts. One-line comments are fine. >Any other advice on manners is also welcome. A written manifest would be nice :) Most of Netnews Netiquette is still pretty useful. Cheers, Stephan Eggermont

Jan. 17, 2015

Manners on the list?

by Laura Risani

Hi all, I really appreciate the dedication and effort someone generously put into answering a question. i want neither to waste such a lovely people's time by saying irrelevant things nor to sound harsh or dry to them. It doesn't kind of feel right saying nothing when someone gives me a rather lengthly answer, unless it was the tacit agreement. So i'm facing questions whether or not to make a post, because i'm not sure which are the right/usual manners for this particular mail-list form of communication. My questions boils down to : how/when to provide feedback? If for example i ask a question and receive answers from three people. Should i always answer back ...commenting whether if it worked or not? ...only if it didn't solve my problem or if i had something useful for solving it to add? (like Stack Overflow) Should i answer back in a separate post to each of them or in a single post to all? Are one-line smalltalk comments alright here or should i avoid them? Any other advice on manners is also welcome. A written manifest would be nice :) Best, Laura

Jan. 16, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Could we keep Pharo-dev for Pharo-dev?

by Stephan Eggermont

Blake wrote: >Looks like that SO question was re-opened. Maybe SO can be educated? Yes, but I'm not going to spend the time having a discussion on Meta each time a question should be reopened, especially as there are no signs of a solution. Stephan

Jan. 16, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Becoming proficient in Pharo

by stepharo

Me too! Le 15/1/15 16:09, nacho a Ã©crit : > Master kilon, > thank you very much. This is an excellent videcast. > As always with your videos a lot of questions arise after watching them! > I really appreciate you taking the time to put this togheter. > Cheers > nacho > > > > > ----- > Nacho > Smalltalker apprentice. > Buenos Aires, Argentina. > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Becoming-proficient-in-Pharo-tp4799284p4799717.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > >

Jan. 16, 2015