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Re: [Pharo-users] NBSQLite3 on OS X - Pharo 3

by Mircea S.

Forgot to mention I want to use a relative path if at all possible. Pe 19 ian. 2015, la 00:46, Mircea S. <mircea(a)unom.ro> a scris: > Hello everyone, > > I was looking into NBSQLite3 using the guide on smalltalkhub, pasted it below. > > 1. NBSQLite3 seems to be missing from "Tools" -> "Configuration Browser" so I had to use the Gopher script. > > 2. I can't seem to get the around to installing the sqlite engine on my mac. What is the default folder there? Do I need this? > > 2a. On the same page with the one above. What is the location where the db.sqlite file must be copied to? On the mac I can put it in the same folder (no go) or "show package contents" on Pharo itself to see the folders inside the package, tried Contents/Resources there but no dice. > > No matter what I try I get a NBSQLite3Error: unable to open database file form one of the reasons above. > > Thank you, > Mir S. > > Installation > > You can access NBSQLite3 from the Pharo configuration browser. Just select "Tools" -> "Configuration Browser" from the world menu, enter "NBSQLite3" and install the stable version. > > Alternatively to install the packages manually into your Pharo image just evaluate: > > Gofer new url: 'http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/PharoExtras/NBSQLite3/main'; package: 'ConfigurationOfNBSQLite3'; load. ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfNBSQLite3) project stableVersion) load. > If you need access to the SQLite3 database engine you need at a minimum the "NBSQLite3-Core" package which is loaded by the ConfigurationOfNBSQLite3 class. > > This package includes all necessary API to access the sqlite engine. > > Use in your own application > > Providing the library files > > To use the sqlite3 database engine in own Pharo projects you need to install the "sqlite3" database engine first. Basically it is only a shared library component that has to be found by the Pharo virtual machine. > > For instance on Windows operating system you can download the "sqlite3.dll" component from http://www.sqlite.org/ and copy it into the same directory where the Pharo VM (Pharo.exe) is. > > After loading NBSQLite3 as described before you can run the unit tests to see if anything is correctly setup and the virtual machine is able to find the sqlite3 engine. > > Use in your code > > Creating a connection > > The most important class to use for creating a database is the class NBSQLite3Connection. For instance the following expression: > > NBSQLite3Connection on: 'myfile.db'.

Jan. 19, 2015

improving print-it in playground

by Tudor Girba

Hi, I worked with Andrei to find a solution for improving the print-it support. You can take a look here: http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/improving-print-it-support-in-gtplayg… The current solution can be found in the latest Pharo image. Cheers, Doru -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"

Jan. 19, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Manners on the list?

by HernÃ¡n Morales Durand

Alex, we exchanged some e-mails last week, I claim is human based on e-mail contents. Cheers, HernÃ¡n 2015-01-18 21:18 GMT-03:00 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com>: > Guysâ¦ > I am convinced that Laura is not a real person, but simply a bot. > > Laura, prove me I am wrong, how much is 2 + 3 ? > > Alexandre > > > > On Jan 18, 2015, at 8:27 PM, Laura Risani <laura.risani(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > Thank you all for your responses. They led me to a founded criteria on > posting behavior, one about which i was quite unsure before. > > > > > > @Stephan Eggermont > > I will always provide feedback. And try my best to format it. > > > > @stepharo > > >because this is a challenge to answer questions and a really good way > to learn > > Interesting point, i haven't thought about. > > > > @ben > > >My favourite reference is Eric S Raymond's "How To Ask Smart > Questions". http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html. > > I like people who doesn't consider the basic to be trivial. > > > > @Hilaire > > >it is useful to write an answer to your problem on the mailing list: > the problem you met was or will be a problem for other, so it is a nice, > > simple and effective way to contribute. > > Should one embrace the policy of each time one gets a question answered > or a problem solved on the list, make a self answering post on Stack > Overflow to render it readably available to others and also as a practical > display of gratitude? If the question gets closed it won't be matter (or > just a little) > > > > Best, > > Laura > > > > On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 8:01 AM, Hilaire <hilaire(a)drgeo.eu> wrote: > > Le 17/01/2015 00:48, Laura Risani a Ã©crit : > > > It doesn't kind of feel right saying nothing when someone gives me a > > > rather lengthly answer, unless it was the tacit agreement. > > > > > > So i'm facing questions whether or not to make a post, because i'm not > > > sure which are the right/usual manners for this particular mail-list > > > form of communication. > > > > > > > One can guess the right manner is the same manner you will use in real > > life: if you get help from a problem, you just say thank you. > > > > In the other hand, if you find yourself the answer to your problem, it > > is useful to write an answer to your problem on the mailing list: the > > problem you met was or will be a problem for other, so it is a nice, > > simple and effective way to contribute. > > > > Hilaire > > > > -- > > Dr. Geo - http://drgeo.eu > > iStoa - http://istoa.drgeo.eu > > > > > > > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > >

Jan. 19, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Nautilus plugin with new menu entries

by HernÃ¡n Morales Durand

Attached a screenshot with menu changes. If anyone has an idea to implement I could give a try. Cheers, HernÃ¡n 2015-01-18 14:51 GMT-03:00 HernÃ¡n Morales Durand <hernan.morales(a)gmail.com>: > Hi Stef, > > The plugin can work in Pharo 4 with a minimal modification (one line of > code). Please feel free to include/change it if you like the features. > > No, I didn't see your enhacements because I use Pharo 3. > I wish I could have more time. > > Cheers, > > HernÃ¡n > > > 2015-01-18 8:13 GMT-03:00 stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr>: > > Hi hernan >> >> did you see that I cleaned, fixed and documented the plugins in Pharo 40? >> >> Sef >> >> Le 18/1/15 06:32, HernÃ¡n Morales Durand a Ã©crit : >> >>> Hi, >>> If you are using Pharo 3 you may install a Nautilus plugin I did which >>> implements the following menu item features: >>> >>> - Jump to the superclass of the currently selected class. >>> - Explore all the instances of the currently selected class. >>> - Send #release and #initialize to the currently selected class >>> - Send (#perform:) the selected unary method to a new instance of the >>> currently selected class. >>> >>> To install evaluate: >>> >>> Gofer it >>> smalltalkhubUser: 'hernan' project: 'HernanPlugins'; >>> package: 'HernanPlugins'; >>> load. >>> >>> Repository: http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~hernan/HernanPlugins < >>> http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#%21/%7Ehernan/HernanPlugins> >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> HernÃ¡n >>> >>> >> >> >

Jan. 19, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Manners on the list?

by Alexandre Bergel

Guysâ¦ I am convinced that Laura is not a real person, but simply a bot. Laura, prove me I am wrong, how much is 2 + 3 ? Alexandre > On Jan 18, 2015, at 8:27 PM, Laura Risani <laura.risani(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Thank you all for your responses. They led me to a founded criteria on posting behavior, one about which i was quite unsure before. > > > @Stephan Eggermont > I will always provide feedback. And try my best to format it. > > @stepharo > >because this is a challenge to answer questions and a really good way to learn > Interesting point, i haven't thought about. > > @ben > >My favourite reference is Eric S Raymond's "How To Ask Smart Questions". http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html. > I like people who doesn't consider the basic to be trivial. > > @Hilaire > >it is useful to write an answer to your problem on the mailing list: the problem you met was or will be a problem for other, so it is a nice, > simple and effective way to contribute. > Should one embrace the policy of each time one gets a question answered or a problem solved on the list, make a self answering post on Stack Overflow to render it readably available to others and also as a practical display of gratitude? If the question gets closed it won't be matter (or just a little) > > Best, > Laura > > On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 8:01 AM, Hilaire <hilaire(a)drgeo.eu> wrote: > Le 17/01/2015 00:48, Laura Risani a Ã©crit : > > It doesn't kind of feel right saying nothing when someone gives me a > > rather lengthly answer, unless it was the tacit agreement. > > > > So i'm facing questions whether or not to make a post, because i'm not > > sure which are the right/usual manners for this particular mail-list > > form of communication. > > > > One can guess the right manner is the same manner you will use in real > life: if you get help from a problem, you just say thank you. > > In the other hand, if you find yourself the answer to your problem, it > is useful to write an answer to your problem on the mailing list: the > problem you met was or will be a problem for other, so it is a nice, > simple and effective way to contribute. > > Hilaire > > -- > Dr. Geo - http://drgeo.eu > iStoa - http://istoa.drgeo.eu > > > -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Jan. 19, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Manners on the list?

by Laura Risani

Thank you all for your responses. They led me to a founded criteria on posting behavior, one about which i was quite unsure before. @Stephan Eggermont I will always provide feedback. And try my best to format it. @stepharo >because this is a challenge to answer questions and a really good way to learn Interesting point, i haven't thought about. @ben >My favourite reference is Eric S Raymond's "How To Ask Smart Questions". http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html. I like people who doesn't consider the basic to be trivial. @Hilaire >it is useful to write an answer to your problem on the mailing list: the problem you met was or will be a problem for other, so it is a nice, simple and effective way to contribute. Should one embrace the policy of each time one gets a question answered or a problem solved on the list, make a self answering post on Stack Overflow to render it readably available to others and also as a practical display of gratitude? If the question gets closed it won't be matter (or just a little) Best, Laura On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 8:01 AM, Hilaire <hilaire(a)drgeo.eu> wrote: > Le 17/01/2015 00:48, Laura Risani a Ã©crit : > > It doesn't kind of feel right saying nothing when someone gives me a > > rather lengthly answer, unless it was the tacit agreement. > > > > So i'm facing questions whether or not to make a post, because i'm not > > sure which are the right/usual manners for this particular mail-list > > form of communication. > > > > One can guess the right manner is the same manner you will use in real > life: if you get help from a problem, you just say thank you. > > In the other hand, if you find yourself the answer to your problem, it > is useful to write an answer to your problem on the mailing list: the > problem you met was or will be a problem for other, so it is a nice, > simple and effective way to contribute. > > Hilaire > > -- > Dr. Geo - http://drgeo.eu > iStoa - http://istoa.drgeo.eu > > >

Jan. 18, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] InfoWorld on Redline Smalltalk

by horrido

Alain Rastoul-2 wrote > "If we can't convince these organizations that they'll be much more > productive using Smalltalk over Java, and save tons of money /in the long > run/, then how can we ever advance our agenda to the rest of the world??" > > I do not see productivity as very important. It is just an (eventually) > good feature. > Productivity, and cost are the most flawed indicators in software > development and this is the argument I hate the most (I may be a bit > rude about that because I have to maintain some old legacy code and we > had quite some bugs last years). > Costs in the middle and long run are clearly related to code quality and > to bugs, not to productivity. > And sometimes, the cost of bugs is terrible when you think about how > many people are involved in the chain and what has to be done to solve > customer problems and revert the results of bugs. .. Awful. It's true, the long-term costs of maintenance generally outweigh the initial cost of development. But this is true regardless of which language you use. It does not imply that companies do not care to write their applications quickly and economically. Smalltalk may offer benefits during maintenance and bug-fixing, too. But that's a lot harder to quantify and therefore harder to sell. It's much easier to make â and demonstrate! â the productivity argument. > "Strategically, it shows Smalltalk's versatility and that > it's not just a one-trick pony. Limiting ourselves to just desktop (or > Seaside) applications is rather short-sighted." > > I do not understand how Smalltalk will be more versatile by using a jvm > ? doing like others ? > > IMHO innovation is related to change, this implies not following the > main path somewhere, > and some risks too. By versatile, I mean that Smalltalk usage is applicable in many other domains, including JVM, .NET, mobile, etc. I'm all for innovation, but we cannot ignore current needs. For better or worse, the JVM is the de facto enterprise standard platform. If we can't play in their space, then that just /looks/ bad. After all, Java is our biggest competitor. > To end, I found your question a good revealer about one's expectations > about pharo, very interesting :). > > > > -- > Regards, > > Alain -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/InfoWorld-on-Redline-Smalltalk-tp4799678p4800277.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Jan. 18, 2015

NBSQLite3 on OS X - Pharo 3

by Mircea S.

Hello everyone, I was looking into NBSQLite3 using the guide on smalltalkhub, pasted it below. 1. NBSQLite3 seems to be missing from "Tools" -> "Configuration Browser" so I had to use the Gopher script. 2. I can't seem to get the around to installing the sqlite engine on my mac. What is the default folder there? Do I need this? 2a. On the same page with the one above. What is the location where the db.sqlite file must be copied to? On the mac I can put it in the same folder (no go) or "show package contents" on Pharo itself to see the folders inside the package, tried Contents/Resources there but no dice. No matter what I try I get a NBSQLite3Error: unable to open database file form one of the reasons above. Thank you, Mir S. Installation You can access NBSQLite3 from the Pharo configuration browser. Just select "Tools" -> "Configuration Browser" from the world menu, enter "NBSQLite3" and install the stable version. Alternatively to install the packages manually into your Pharo image just evaluate: Gofer new url: 'http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/PharoExtras/NBSQLite3/main'; package: 'ConfigurationOfNBSQLite3'; load. ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfNBSQLite3) project stableVersion) load. If you need access to the SQLite3 database engine you need at a minimum the "NBSQLite3-Core" package which is loaded by the ConfigurationOfNBSQLite3 class. This package includes all necessary API to access the sqlite engine. Use in your own application Providing the library files To use the sqlite3 database engine in own Pharo projects you need to install the "sqlite3" database engine first. Basically it is only a shared library component that has to be found by the Pharo virtual machine. For instance on Windows operating system you can download the "sqlite3.dll" component from http://www.sqlite.org/ and copy it into the same directory where the Pharo VM (Pharo.exe) is. After loading NBSQLite3 as described before you can run the unit tests to see if anything is correctly setup and the virtual machine is able to find the sqlite3 engine. Use in your code Creating a connection The most important class to use for creating a database is the class NBSQLite3Connection. For instance the following expression: NBSQLite3Connection on: 'myfile.db'.

Jan. 18, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Blitzkrieg!

by Sebastian Sastre

Please donât take it as self-censorship but as strategy on communication. Itâs fine that you have a taste for history but you need to calculate the way you make rapport (or not) with your audience and donât let it interfere too much with your message. I donât feel your inner sophisticated handle was helping you to convey your signal You are showing that you are a good listener, thatâs really great! Keep up the good work! > On Jan 18, 2015, at 6:02 PM, horrido <horrido.hobbies(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Excellent advice! I shall do exactly that. > > Again, I apologize if anyone was offended by my use of the world > "blitzkrieg". I was trying to be clever and it obviously backfired on me. > > My love of WWII history should not paint me as a bad guy. To be honest, I > had no idea that modern Germans still feel very touchy about the subject. As > a Canadian growing up, my friends and I loved to play war, esp. WWII, and > this has been ingrained into my character. I had a profound admiration for > great tactics and strategy (which may also explain my love of chess), and > there's no question that blitzkrieg ranked high in that regard. > > > Jimmie Houchin-5 wrote >> As an USAmerican, I would not have associated Generalissimo with WWII. >> It is a common term for a leader in many Hispanic nations or armies. >> Many of them unfortunately are dictators. >> >> I also not being a WWII buff, was not familiar with horrido. It meant >> nothing to me and I didn't look. It was merely a label you were using to >> represent yourself. >> >> That is one of the interesting things about this list is it is very >> global in representation. So it is very difficult to know name >> associations that people will make. >> >> When representing ourselves we can make any choice we want, wise or not. >> But hopefully if we are doing something which represents some community >> (this or any other) we should make decisions within that context. >> >> Considering what has been learned about global perception. You might >> take the opportunity on your blog on an about page or something to >> educate as to what your chosen names represent, to you, whom they are >> representing. This could present an opportunity to educate on one of >> your favorite topics and to allow people who might otherwise have the >> wrong understanding to obtain the correct one for you and your context. >> >> Just some thoughts. >> >> Jimmie >> >> >> On 1/18/2015 11:22 AM, horrido wrote: >>> You make some valid points. I shall reconsider my position. However, the >>> articles I write, such as "The Smalltalk Revolution" and "Dart is Dead", >>> as >>> well as my "stream of consciousness" blog at Tumblr, must remain true to >>> my >>> style. Artistically, I have no choice. >>> >>> I'd like to make one further note: the handle Generalissimo was NOT >>> selected >>> from the Italian army during WWII. So no one should take offence here. It >>> was used in an excellent Chinese film called " Back to 1942 >>> <http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2113822/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_12&gt <http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2113822/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_12&gt>; ", >>> which >>> impressed me so much that I glommed onto the handle. If you think this >>> reflects poorly on everyone, then I apologize. >>> >>> >>> Jimmie Houchin-5 wrote >>>> I do not think anybody is trying to compel you to be politically correct >>>> or intellectually dishonest. >>>> >>>> However, most of what you have been doing is being done in the name of >>>> marketing. When marketing you choose what words you use and what words >>>> you don't use. You choose in order to effect a certain result. >>>> >>>> The words you choose have consequences. From the handle you choose to >>>> label yourself by, to the words you choose to describe Smalltalk or >>>> Pharo. >>>> >>>> You are a free person, living in a free part of the world. You make your >>>> choices for your words. And you accept the consequences of those >>>> choices. Whether for accolades or rebuke or somewhere in between. >>>> However, in this context you are also attempting to represent a larger >>>> community. You are attempting to represent and market Smalltalk and >>>> Pharo. There are many here who are a part of that community will also >>>> bear the consequences of words chosen by members of this community. >>>> >>>> To my understanding all that is being asked is. Look at the big picture. >>>> Choose your words, handles, labels wisely. >>>> >>>> Is it politically correct or intellectually dishonest to call you >>>> Richard? >>>> Can you not be intellectually and artistically honest and choose words >>>> for who you are and who you are writing to and for? >>>> Are there no other handles which are just as appropriate for you but are >>>> better in this context? >>>> >>>> I think it can often be just as intellectually dishonest to say, >>>> "tough", "deal with it". I like these words and I do not want to make an >>>> effort to choose others. >>>> >>>> It is not the English language that constrains. >>>> >>>> Regarding Paris. My heart and prayers go out to the people of France. >>>> >>>> You are not writing political satire. You are attempting to make certain >>>> technical, business, policy, ... arguments to market the adoption of >>>> Smalltalk and Pharo. >>>> >>>> You are not being attacked at all. You are simply being advised of >>>> consequences to certain choices. >>>> >>>> Choose. Choose well. For the consequences good or bad, are yours. >>>> >>>> Jimmie >>>> >>>> On 1/18/2015 10:16 AM, horrido wrote: >>>>> This is a fine line to tread. I have several problems with >>>>> self-censorship: >>>>> >>>>> First of all, "Generalissimo" is just a handle. My previous handle, >>>>> "horrido", was surely objectionable as well, since it's a play on the >>>>> battle >>>>> cry associated with the WWII German Luftwaffe ( Horrido: Fighter Aces >>>>> of >>>>> the >>>>> Luftwaffe >>>>> <http://www.amazon.ca/Horrido-Luftwaffe-Raymond-F-Toliver/dp/0553126636&gt <http://www.amazon.ca/Horrido-Luftwaffe-Raymond-F-Toliver/dp/0553126636&gt>; >>>>> ). >>>>> >>>>> I admit to being a WWII buff. I have been for many years. Should I >>>>> apologize >>>>> for this? >>>>> >>>>> Second, I am firmly and philosophically opposed to Political >>>>> Correctness. >>>>> I >>>>> find it intellectually offensive to my very core. I guess that would >>>>> make >>>>> me >>>>> a lousy politician. >>>>> >>>>> One thing that no one can accuse me of is being intellectually >>>>> dishonest. >>>>> >>>>> Third, my self-censorship is hardly different from what Muslim >>>>> terrorists >>>>> were trying to achieve in Paris last week. Free expression should be >>>>> protected (as long as it is not foul or vulgar). Any language you use >>>>> will >>>>> offend /someone somewhere/ at /some time/ in the world. I try to be >>>>> sensible >>>>> and I try to be artistically honest. This is reflected in my writings. >>>>> There >>>>> will always be people who find my style distasteful. There isn't much I >>>>> can >>>>> do about that. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> sebastian@ >>>> wrote >>>>>> Sometimes you want to polarise people but there is nothing interesting >>>>>> as >>>>>> output of this particular one, please consider review that inner joke >>>>>> Richard >>>>>> >>>>>> So I agree, that this particular vocabulary will polarise people in an >>>>>> inconvenient way. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jan 18, 2015, at 6:30 AM, >>>>>> jtuchel@ >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> Horrido, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You are aware that there are regions on this planet where mails >>>>>>> containing vocabulary like Blitzkrieg or Genaralissimo will evoke >>>>>>> reactions that will not help at ll. You are at risk to simply be >>>>>>> ignored >>>>>>> in the best case. In the worst case, people will hsake their heads >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> associate Smalltalk with a certain kind of political spam they >>>>>>> receive >>>>>>> from time to time. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Joachim >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Von: horrido <mailto: >>>>>> horrido.hobbies@ >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Gesendet: âSamstagâ, â17â. âJanuarâ â2015 â16â:â15 >>>>>>> An: Any question about pharo is welcome <mailto: >>>>>> pharo-users@.pharo >>>>>> > >>>>>>> http://horridohobbies.tumblr.com/ <http://horridohobbies.tumblr.com/> >>>>>>> <http://horridohobbies.tumblr.com/&gt <http://horridohobbies.tumblr.com/&gt>; >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *Today is the one-month anniversary of the SRP.* We have made good >>>>>>> progress, >>>>>>> but there is still much work ahead of us. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Shortly, I will be seeking corporate sponsorship. As well, I'm trying >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> coordinate activities with the Smalltalk Foundation. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Later this summer, I will be pushing my "Small Minds Initiative," a >>>>>>> sub-campaign of the SRP to get Smalltalk into the classroom. I will >>>>>>> begin >>>>>>> with the Toronto District School Board. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Are we pumped yet?! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Generalissimo >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> View this message in context: >>>>>>> http://forum.world.st/Blitzkrieg-tp4800165.html >>>>>>> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at >>>>>>> Nabble.com. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> View this message in context: >>>>> http://forum.world.st/Blitzkrieg-tp4800165p4800229.html >>>>> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> View this message in context: >>> http://forum.world.st/Blitzkrieg-tp4800165p4800240.html >>> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>> > > > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Blitzkrieg-tp4800165p4800261.html <http://forum.world.st/Blitzkrieg-tp4800165p4800261.html> > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com <http://nabble.com/>.

Jan. 18, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Blitzkrieg!

by Jimmie Houchin

Personally I think that there need to be people who expert and knowledgeable of WWII. You are not a bad guy for loving history. I believe we must understand history in order to not repeat its mistakes. However as an American I have no understanding of how those in Europe feel about some of these terms. I also know that these terms are not unique to Germany, Italy or WWII. American football uses the term blitz probably most every game. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blitz_(gridiron_football) Just as you educated us here as to your context and reference. Educate your audience on your other forums. Everybody wins. Truth, intellectual and artistic integrity win. This is the best way to combat hyper-sensitivity and political correctness. Negative context do not own the definition of these words. But we do need to demonstrate that they are being used in a different context. Also, a thought. You might consider putting a signature and a link to your about or educational pages about your handles in your emails. That way someone new to you can learn. And thank you for the passion to help in the marketing of Smalltalk and Pharo. Jimmie On 1/18/2015 2:02 PM, horrido wrote: > Excellent advice! I shall do exactly that. > > Again, I apologize if anyone was offended by my use of the world > "blitzkrieg". I was trying to be clever and it obviously backfired on me. > > My love of WWII history should not paint me as a bad guy. To be honest, I > had no idea that modern Germans still feel very touchy about the subject. As > a Canadian growing up, my friends and I loved to play war, esp. WWII, and > this has been ingrained into my character. I had a profound admiration for > great tactics and strategy (which may also explain my love of chess), and > there's no question that blitzkrieg ranked high in that regard. > > > Jimmie Houchin-5 wrote >> As an USAmerican, I would not have associated Generalissimo with WWII. >> It is a common term for a leader in many Hispanic nations or armies. >> Many of them unfortunately are dictators. >> >> I also not being a WWII buff, was not familiar with horrido. It meant >> nothing to me and I didn't look. It was merely a label you were using to >> represent yourself. >> >> That is one of the interesting things about this list is it is very >> global in representation. So it is very difficult to know name >> associations that people will make. >> >> When representing ourselves we can make any choice we want, wise or not. >> But hopefully if we are doing something which represents some community >> (this or any other) we should make decisions within that context. >> >> Considering what has been learned about global perception. You might >> take the opportunity on your blog on an about page or something to >> educate as to what your chosen names represent, to you, whom they are >> representing. This could present an opportunity to educate on one of >> your favorite topics and to allow people who might otherwise have the >> wrong understanding to obtain the correct one for you and your context. >> >> Just some thoughts. >> >> Jimmie >> >> >> On 1/18/2015 11:22 AM, horrido wrote: >>> You make some valid points. I shall reconsider my position. However, the >>> articles I write, such as "The Smalltalk Revolution" and "Dart is Dead", >>> as >>> well as my "stream of consciousness" blog at Tumblr, must remain true to >>> my >>> style. Artistically, I have no choice. >>> >>> I'd like to make one further note: the handle Generalissimo was NOT >>> selected >>> from the Italian army during WWII. So no one should take offence here. It >>> was used in an excellent Chinese film called " Back to 1942 >>> <http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2113822/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_12> ", >>> which >>> impressed me so much that I glommed onto the handle. If you think this >>> reflects poorly on everyone, then I apologize. >>> >>> >>> Jimmie Houchin-5 wrote >>>> I do not think anybody is trying to compel you to be politically correct >>>> or intellectually dishonest. >>>> >>>> However, most of what you have been doing is being done in the name of >>>> marketing. When marketing you choose what words you use and what words >>>> you don't use. You choose in order to effect a certain result. >>>> >>>> The words you choose have consequences. From the handle you choose to >>>> label yourself by, to the words you choose to describe Smalltalk or >>>> Pharo. >>>> >>>> You are a free person, living in a free part of the world. You make your >>>> choices for your words. And you accept the consequences of those >>>> choices. Whether for accolades or rebuke or somewhere in between. >>>> However, in this context you are also attempting to represent a larger >>>> community. You are attempting to represent and market Smalltalk and >>>> Pharo. There are many here who are a part of that community will also >>>> bear the consequences of words chosen by members of this community. >>>> >>>> To my understanding all that is being asked is. Look at the big picture. >>>> Choose your words, handles, labels wisely. >>>> >>>> Is it politically correct or intellectually dishonest to call you >>>> Richard? >>>> Can you not be intellectually and artistically honest and choose words >>>> for who you are and who you are writing to and for? >>>> Are there no other handles which are just as appropriate for you but are >>>> better in this context? >>>> >>>> I think it can often be just as intellectually dishonest to say, >>>> "tough", "deal with it". I like these words and I do not want to make an >>>> effort to choose others. >>>> >>>> It is not the English language that constrains. >>>> >>>> Regarding Paris. My heart and prayers go out to the people of France. >>>> >>>> You are not writing political satire. You are attempting to make certain >>>> technical, business, policy, ... arguments to market the adoption of >>>> Smalltalk and Pharo. >>>> >>>> You are not being attacked at all. You are simply being advised of >>>> consequences to certain choices. >>>> >>>> Choose. Choose well. For the consequences good or bad, are yours. >>>> >>>> Jimmie >>>> >>>> On 1/18/2015 10:16 AM, horrido wrote: >>>>> This is a fine line to tread. I have several problems with >>>>> self-censorship: >>>>> >>>>> First of all, "Generalissimo" is just a handle. My previous handle, >>>>> "horrido", was surely objectionable as well, since it's a play on the >>>>> battle >>>>> cry associated with the WWII German Luftwaffe ( Horrido: Fighter Aces >>>>> of >>>>> the >>>>> Luftwaffe >>>>> <http://www.amazon.ca/Horrido-Luftwaffe-Raymond-F-Toliver/dp/0553126636> >>>>> ). >>>>> >>>>> I admit to being a WWII buff. I have been for many years. Should I >>>>> apologize >>>>> for this? >>>>> >>>>> Second, I am firmly and philosophically opposed to Political >>>>> Correctness. >>>>> I >>>>> find it intellectually offensive to my very core. I guess that would >>>>> make >>>>> me >>>>> a lousy politician. >>>>> >>>>> One thing that no one can accuse me of is being intellectually >>>>> dishonest. >>>>> >>>>> Third, my self-censorship is hardly different from what Muslim >>>>> terrorists >>>>> were trying to achieve in Paris last week. Free expression should be >>>>> protected (as long as it is not foul or vulgar). Any language you use >>>>> will >>>>> offend /someone somewhere/ at /some time/ in the world. I try to be >>>>> sensible >>>>> and I try to be artistically honest. This is reflected in my writings. >>>>> There >>>>> will always be people who find my style distasteful. There isn't much I >>>>> can >>>>> do about that. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> sebastian@ >>>> wrote >>>>>> Sometimes you want to polarise people but there is nothing interesting >>>>>> as >>>>>> output of this particular one, please consider review that inner joke >>>>>> Richard >>>>>> >>>>>> So I agree, that this particular vocabulary will polarise people in an >>>>>> inconvenient way. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jan 18, 2015, at 6:30 AM, >>>>>> jtuchel@ >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> Horrido, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You are aware that there are regions on this planet where mails >>>>>>> containing vocabulary like Blitzkrieg or Genaralissimo will evoke >>>>>>> reactions that will not help at ll. You are at risk to simply be >>>>>>> ignored >>>>>>> in the best case. In the worst case, people will hsake their heads >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> associate Smalltalk with a certain kind of political spam they >>>>>>> receive >>>>>>> from time to time. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Joachim >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Von: horrido <mailto: >>>>>> horrido.hobbies@ >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Gesendet: âSamstagâ, â17â. âJanuarâ â2015 â16â:â15 >>>>>>> An: Any question about pharo is welcome <mailto: >>>>>> pharo-users@.pharo >>>>>> > >>>>>>> http://horridohobbies.tumblr.com/ >>>>>>> <http://horridohobbies.tumblr.com/> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *Today is the one-month anniversary of the SRP.* We have made good >>>>>>> progress, >>>>>>> but there is still much work ahead of us. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Shortly, I will be seeking corporate sponsorship. As well, I'm trying >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> coordinate activities with the Smalltalk Foundation. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Later this summer, I will be pushing my "Small Minds Initiative," a >>>>>>> sub-campaign of the SRP to get Smalltalk into the classroom. I will >>>>>>> begin >>>>>>> with the Toronto District School Board. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Are we pumped yet?! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Generalissimo >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> View this message in context: >>>>>>> http://forum.world.st/Blitzkrieg-tp4800165.html >>>>>>> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at >>>>>>> Nabble.com. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> View this message in context: >>>>> http://forum.world.st/Blitzkrieg-tp4800165p4800229.html >>>>> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> View this message in context: >>> http://forum.world.st/Blitzkrieg-tp4800165p4800240.html >>> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>> > > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Blitzkrieg-tp4800165p4800261.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >

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