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Re: [Pharo-users] Manners on the list?

by Laura Risani

Alexandre, i was born human. One day i fell in love and my heart was broken. Not having found a fix, i remain since then a heartless bot. 2 + 3 = 3 + 2 On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 9:18 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: > Guysâ¦ > I am convinced that Laura is not a real person, but simply a bot. > > Laura, prove me I am wrong, how much is 2 + 3 ? > > Alexandre > > > > On Jan 18, 2015, at 8:27 PM, Laura Risani <laura.risani(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > Thank you all for your responses. They led me to a founded criteria on > posting behavior, one about which i was quite unsure before. > > > > > > @Stephan Eggermont > > I will always provide feedback. And try my best to format it. > > > > @stepharo > > >because this is a challenge to answer questions and a really good way > to learn > > Interesting point, i haven't thought about. > > > > @ben > > >My favourite reference is Eric S Raymond's "How To Ask Smart > Questions". http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html. > > I like people who doesn't consider the basic to be trivial. > > > > @Hilaire > > >it is useful to write an answer to your problem on the mailing list: > the problem you met was or will be a problem for other, so it is a nice, > > simple and effective way to contribute. > > Should one embrace the policy of each time one gets a question answered > or a problem solved on the list, make a self answering post on Stack > Overflow to render it readably available to others and also as a practical > display of gratitude? If the question gets closed it won't be matter (or > just a little) > > > > Best, > > Laura > > > > On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 8:01 AM, Hilaire <hilaire(a)drgeo.eu> wrote: > > Le 17/01/2015 00:48, Laura Risani a Ã©crit : > > > It doesn't kind of feel right saying nothing when someone gives me a > > > rather lengthly answer, unless it was the tacit agreement. > > > > > > So i'm facing questions whether or not to make a post, because i'm not > > > sure which are the right/usual manners for this particular mail-list > > > form of communication. > > > > > > > One can guess the right manner is the same manner you will use in real > > life: if you get help from a problem, you just say thank you. > > > > In the other hand, if you find yourself the answer to your problem, it > > is useful to write an answer to your problem on the mailing list: the > > problem you met was or will be a problem for other, so it is a nice, > > simple and effective way to contribute. > > > > Hilaire > > > > -- > > Dr. Geo - http://drgeo.eu > > iStoa - http://istoa.drgeo.eu > > > > > > > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > >

Jan. 19, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Blitzkrieg!

by Luc Fabresse

2015-01-19 17:48 GMT+01:00 jtuchel(a)objektfabrik.de <jtuchel(a)objektfabrik.de> : > > Maybe you can share some facts before you say things like "I achieved more > in a few weeks than ESUG achieved in years". I'd be curious to see what you > are talking about and I guess I am not alone. sure, I am curious too! Luc

Jan. 19, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Blitzkrieg!

by jtuchel＠objektfabrik.de

I think this whole discussion is about te get completely out of control. Anyone who wants to help promote Smalltalk in the IT world is welcome - whether he or she has been in the Community for ages or came to it just the other day. Richard has been doing Smalltalk for quite a few years now, so we can assume he knows what he's talking about. All that's been said so far is that some people do not like the use of some military terms, no matter where they come from and whether people know what these mean or not. We are not on a crusade, and this is not about conquering anything or anybody. Let the facts speak and let's convince people with facts and deeds. Richard, you make very strong claims about your achievements and plans. There is nothing wrong with having plans, and we even love to see results. Maybe you can share some facts before you say things like "I achieved more in a few weeks than ESUG achieved in years". I'd be curious to see what you are talking about and I guess I am not alone. It would be great if what you say is true. Because it would mean you achieved something that many people have tried over the years now. So: just stop mixing your fascination for WWII and your efforts to promote Smalltalk. I guess this will be very helpful in finding people who cooperate and contribute - far more than the direction of this discussion thread seems to point to. Joachim

Jan. 19, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Blitzkrieg!

by Johan Fabry

Hehe â¦ good joke. But seriously, I would like to know what I missed. > On Jan 19, 2015, at 17:33, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: > > What does the wife of a public relations expert do when she has insomnia? > > She rolls over and says, âTell me again, darling, just what is it that you do for a living?â > >> On 19 Jan 2015, at 17:14, Johan Fabry <jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl> wrote: >> >> >> I must be old and jaded, or living like a recluse, because I donât recall anything special beyond an article in Medium, the link to it in ycombinator, and a couple of posts on wordpress . Could you help me out and point me the rest? TIA. >> >>> On Jan 19, 2015, at 16:56, horrido <horrido.hobbies(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Consider all the positive publicity that I've drawn to Smalltalk in just the >>> past several weeks. The excitement is palpable. >> >> >> >> ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- >> >> Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry >> PLEIAD lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile >> >> > > > ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry PLEIAD lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile

Jan. 19, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Blitzkrieg!

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

What does the wife of a public relations expert do when she has insomnia? She rolls over and says, âTell me again, darling, just what is it that you do for a living?â > On 19 Jan 2015, at 17:14, Johan Fabry <jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl> wrote: > > > I must be old and jaded, or living like a recluse, because I donât recall anything special beyond an article in Medium, the link to it in ycombinator, and a couple of posts on wordpress . Could you help me out and point me the rest? TIA. > >> On Jan 19, 2015, at 16:56, horrido <horrido.hobbies(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Consider all the positive publicity that I've drawn to Smalltalk in just the >> past several weeks. The excitement is palpable. > > > > ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- > > Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry > PLEIAD lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile > >

Jan. 19, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Blitzkrieg!

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

This might be a robot, with all his weird handles, and strange talk, we have had some trouble with robots trolling the lists. Then again, he violates the first law of robotics, 'A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm', so he must be human. > On 19 Jan 2015, at 16:45, horrido <horrido.hobbies(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Marcus Denker-4 wrote >>> On 18 Jan 2015, at 13:16, horrido < > >> horrido.hobbies@ > >> > wrote: >>> >>> This is a fine line to tread. I have several problems with >>> self-censorship: >>> >>> First of all, "Generalissimo" is just a handle. My previous handle, >>> "horrido", was surely objectionable as well, since it's a play on the >>> battle >>> cry associated with the WWII German Luftwaffe ( Horrido: Fighter Aces of >>> the >>> Luftwaffe >>> <http://www.amazon.ca/Horrido-Luftwaffe-Raymond-F-Toliver/dp/0553126636> >>> ). >>> >>> I admit to being a WWII buff. I have been for many years. Should I >>> apologize >>> for this? >> >> As a german living in France I feel insulted. >> >> Marcus > > Wow, you really have a problem with me being a WWII buff?? I should feel > insulted. > > You do realize that I'm not the only WWII buff on the planet, right? > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Blitzkrieg-tp4800165p4800397.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Jan. 19, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Blitzkrieg!

by Johan Fabry

I must be old and jaded, or living like a recluse, because I donât recall anything special beyond an article in Medium, the link to it in ycombinator, and a couple of posts on wordpress . Could you help me out and point me the rest? TIA. > On Jan 19, 2015, at 16:56, horrido <horrido.hobbies(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Consider all the positive publicity that I've drawn to Smalltalk in just the > past several weeks. The excitement is palpable. ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry PLEIAD lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile

Jan. 19, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Blitzkrieg!

by horrido

Marcus Denker-4 wrote >> On 18 Jan 2015, at 19:37, Sebastian Sastre < > sebastian@ > > wrote: >> >> Please donât take it as self-censorship but as strategy on communication. >> >> Itâs fine that you have a taste for history but you need to calculate the >> way you make rapport (or not) with your audience and donât let it >> interfere too much with your message. >> >> I donât feel your inner sophisticated handle was helping you to convey >> your signal >> >> You are showing that you are a good listener, thatâs really great! >> > Honestly: He is *awful*. > >> Keep up the good work! >> > > Do you really think that? Wow. > > Marcus Consider all the positive publicity that I've drawn to Smalltalk in just the past several weeks. The excitement is palpable. Up until recently, Smalltalk has been all but forgotten in the IT community at large. Do you need evidence? Consider that organizations such as the Smalltalk Foundation or ESUG have not achieved even this much in 9 months, or several years! Just how quick should progress be in your mind? You have no conception of the amount of work I've put into the SRP. You are quick to dismiss it all as, what, hot air? -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Blitzkrieg-tp4800165p4800399.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Jan. 19, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Blitzkrieg!

by horrido

Marcus Denker-4 wrote >> On 18 Jan 2015, at 13:16, horrido < > horrido.hobbies@ > > wrote: >> >> This is a fine line to tread. I have several problems with >> self-censorship: >> >> First of all, "Generalissimo" is just a handle. My previous handle, >> "horrido", was surely objectionable as well, since it's a play on the >> battle >> cry associated with the WWII German Luftwaffe ( Horrido: Fighter Aces of >> the >> Luftwaffe >> <http://www.amazon.ca/Horrido-Luftwaffe-Raymond-F-Toliver/dp/0553126636> >> ). >> >> I admit to being a WWII buff. I have been for many years. Should I >> apologize >> for this? > > As a german living in France I feel insulted. > > Marcus Wow, you really have a problem with me being a WWII buff?? I should feel insulted. You do realize that I'm not the only WWII buff on the planet, right? -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Blitzkrieg-tp4800165p4800397.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Jan. 19, 2015

Essays

by horrido

We have a couple of essays published at Smalltalk renaissance <https://smalltalkrenaissance.wordpress.com/category/essays/> . *We need more.* This is our opportunity to answer the questions, concerns, and criticisms of non-Smalltalk developers, an opportunity afforded by the SRP, which is drawing much new attention to Smalltalk. We should exploit this opportunity and not waste it. Suggested essay topics include: - talk about actual use of Smalltalk in the enterprise - expand on the much-touted productivity advantage of Smalltalk (many people are skeptical) - explain how the experience of using the Smalltalk environment is superior to that of Eclipse, IntelliJ, Visual Studio, etc. - talk about future developments in Smalltalk, eg, concurrency features, new IDEs, new tooling, etc. - any other topics you may deem noteworthy So, please, contribute an essay. /Without you, there is no campaign./ Send all submissions to my personal email: horrido.hobbies at gmail dot com. Thanks. -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Essays-tp4800394.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Jan. 19, 2015