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Re: [Pharo-users] Running Pharo headless

by ClÃ©ment Bera

2015-01-21 10:31 GMT+01:00 nacho <0800nacho(a)gmail.com>: > philippeback wrote > > why running pharo with a squeakvm? > > > > I do it, in my Raspberry Pi :p and its slowwww > Actually I think only the UI is slow on the Pi because on the squeak VM made by Tim he reimplemented differently BitBlt. Is it also slower in headless ? It shouldn't. > > > > > > I am runnin headless with PharoVM here. > > > > Your vm params look like weird. > > > > I'll give you a copy of my CLI when I have access to my Pc. > > > > Phil > > Le 21 janv. 2015 03:59, "sergio_101" < > > > sergio.rrd@ > > > > a Ã©crit : > > > >> #!/bin/bash > >> > >> # settings > >> USER="badgesoup" > >> VM="/usr/lib/squeak/4.10.2-2614/squeakvm" > >> VM_PARAMS="-mmap 256m -vm-sound-null -vm-display-null" > >> IMAGE="/home/badgesoup/badgesoup_image/Pharo3.0.image" > >> > >> # start the vm > >> exec \ > >> setuidgid "$USER" \ > >> "$VM" $VM_PARAMS "$IMAGE" > >> > >> On Tue Jan 20 2015 at 9:32:04 PM Esteban A. Maringolo < > >> > > > emaringolo@ > > >> wrote: > >> > >>> What is in the 'run' file? > >>> > >>> Esteban A. Maringolo > >>> > >>> > >>> 2015-01-20 23:26 GMT-03:00 sergio_101 < > > > sergio.rrd@ > > > >: > >>> > i am ready to put my seaside app online, and am finding that all the > >>> > information i am finding is outdated. > >>> > > >>> > I am running the latest Pharo (as of last night), and ubuntu14.04. > >>> > > >>> > when i try to run using squeakvm, i get: > >>> > > >>> > $ sudo ./run > >>> > 'Your VM is too old for this image. Please download the latest VM.' > >>> > 'Pharo cannot locate the sources file named > >>> > /usr/lib/squeak/4.10.2-2614/PharoV30.sources. > >>> > > >>> > Please check that the file is named properly and is in the > >>> > same directory as this image.' > >>> > A PharoCommandLineHandler is xxxxxxxxx. > >>> > > >>> > everywhere i look, the information seems several years old.. > >>> > > >>> > ideas? thanks! > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > >>> > > > > > > ----- > Nacho > Smalltalker apprentice. > Buenos Aires, Argentina. > -- > View this message in context: > http://forum.world.st/Running-Pharo-headless-tp4800750p4800768.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > >

Jan. 21, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Running Pharo headless

by ClÃ©ment Bera

2015-01-21 9:29 GMT+01:00 Michal Balda <lists(a)michalbalda.cz>: > Hi all, > is there any difference between -vm-display-null and --no-display (and > using both)? > no-display is deprecated, whereas vm-display-null is not. It does the same but use vm-display-null or your script will stop working in the future. > > I used this command to successfully run a Seaside app on a headless Linux > server, with a standard Pharo VM (not the Squeak one from the repositories): > > ./pharo-vm/pharo \ > -vm-display-null \ > -vm-sound-null \ > --plugins ./pharo-vm \ > --encoding utf8 \ > ./image/Seaside.image \ > --no-quit > > Or, to run a script at startup to initialize the app/server: > > ./pharo-vm/pharo \ > -vm-display-null \ > -vm-sound-null \ > --plugins ./pharo-vm \ > --encoding utf8 \ > ./image/Seaside.image \ > st ./startServer.st \ > --no-quit > > Apart from running it under a limited user/group, it is also possible to > chroot it for an extra security measure. > > > Michal > > > > > On 21.1.2015 09:16, ClÃ©ment Bera wrote: > > Just a detail. When you run headless with the latest pharo-vm (that you > can download here: http://files.pharo.org/vm/pharo/ in your OS directory, > file stable.zip), add --no-quit after --no-display in the VM start-up > options. > > 2015-01-21 7:21 GMT+01:00 phil(a)highoctane.be <phil(a)highoctane.be>: > >> why running pharo with a squeakvm? >> >> I am runnin headless with PharoVM here. >> >> Your vm params look like weird. >> >> I'll give you a copy of my CLI when I have access to my Pc. >> >> Phil >> Le 21 janv. 2015 03:59, "sergio_101" <sergio.rrd(a)gmail.com> a Ã©crit : >> >> #!/bin/bash >>> >>> # settings >>> USER="badgesoup" >>> VM="/usr/lib/squeak/4.10.2-2614/squeakvm" >>> VM_PARAMS="-mmap 256m -vm-sound-null -vm-display-null" >>> IMAGE="/home/badgesoup/badgesoup_image/Pharo3.0.image" >>> >>> # start the vm >>> exec \ >>> setuidgid "$USER" \ >>> "$VM" $VM_PARAMS "$IMAGE" >>> >>> On Tue Jan 20 2015 at 9:32:04 PM Esteban A. Maringolo < >>> emaringolo(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> What is in the 'run' file? >>>> >>>> Esteban A. Maringolo >>>> >>>> >>>> 2015-01-20 23:26 GMT-03:00 sergio_101 <sergio.rrd(a)gmail.com>: >>>> > i am ready to put my seaside app online, and am finding that all the >>>> > information i am finding is outdated. >>>> > >>>> > I am running the latest Pharo (as of last night), and ubuntu14.04. >>>> > >>>> > when i try to run using squeakvm, i get: >>>> > >>>> > $ sudo ./run >>>> > 'Your VM is too old for this image. Please download the latest VM.' >>>> > 'Pharo cannot locate the sources file named >>>> > /usr/lib/squeak/4.10.2-2614/PharoV30.sources. >>>> > >>>> > Please check that the file is named properly and is in the >>>> > same directory as this image.' >>>> > A PharoCommandLineHandler is xxxxxxxxx. >>>> > >>>> > everywhere i look, the information seems several years old.. >>>> > >>>> > ideas? thanks! >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >>>> > >

Jan. 21, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Running Pharo headless

by nacho

philippeback wrote > why running pharo with a squeakvm? > > I do it, in my Raspberry Pi :p and its slowwww > > > I am runnin headless with PharoVM here. > > Your vm params look like weird. > > I'll give you a copy of my CLI when I have access to my Pc. > > Phil > Le 21 janv. 2015 03:59, "sergio_101" < > sergio.rrd@ > > a Ã©crit : > >> #!/bin/bash >> >> # settings >> USER="badgesoup" >> VM="/usr/lib/squeak/4.10.2-2614/squeakvm" >> VM_PARAMS="-mmap 256m -vm-sound-null -vm-display-null" >> IMAGE="/home/badgesoup/badgesoup_image/Pharo3.0.image" >> >> # start the vm >> exec \ >> setuidgid "$USER" \ >> "$VM" $VM_PARAMS "$IMAGE" >> >> On Tue Jan 20 2015 at 9:32:04 PM Esteban A. Maringolo < >> > emaringolo@ >> wrote: >> >>> What is in the 'run' file? >>> >>> Esteban A. Maringolo >>> >>> >>> 2015-01-20 23:26 GMT-03:00 sergio_101 < > sergio.rrd@ > >: >>> > i am ready to put my seaside app online, and am finding that all the >>> > information i am finding is outdated. >>> > >>> > I am running the latest Pharo (as of last night), and ubuntu14.04. >>> > >>> > when i try to run using squeakvm, i get: >>> > >>> > $ sudo ./run >>> > 'Your VM is too old for this image. Please download the latest VM.' >>> > 'Pharo cannot locate the sources file named >>> > /usr/lib/squeak/4.10.2-2614/PharoV30.sources. >>> > >>> > Please check that the file is named properly and is in the >>> > same directory as this image.' >>> > A PharoCommandLineHandler is xxxxxxxxx. >>> > >>> > everywhere i look, the information seems several years old.. >>> > >>> > ideas? thanks! >>> > >>> > >>> >>> ----- Nacho Smalltalker apprentice. Buenos Aires, Argentina. -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Running-Pharo-headless-tp4800750p4800768.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Jan. 21, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo and X11 primary selection (aka middle mouse button paste)

by Peter UhnÃ¡k

Hi, there are several things at play here as far as I was able to find out. I was researching this issue when I was frustrated with pasting from Chrome and was able to figure at out at least a temporarily solution. Here's my original post http://forum.world.st/Re-Copy-past-doesn-t-work-sometimes-in-Chrome-semifix… I also opened an issue today, however I'm not familiar with VM so I cannot conclusively say what is correct. https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/14759/Linux-X11-VM-default-encoding-shoul… As far as middle mouse pasting goes there are two sides of it: 1. Does Pharo VM (C-side) support it? 2. Does Pharo (Smalltalk-side) support it? I believe the answer to the first one is yes, the code does make mentions of primary selection, however the code is quite complex for me (my investigation was pretty much trial & error)... https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-vm/blob/master/platforms/unix/vm-dis… However the answer to second one is probably not, at least I was not able to find any bindings between middle mouse button and pasting - but again, I'm not familiar with Pharo internals. I could open an issue for this also, however considering the code is quite old (years) and nobody fixed it yet, nobody seems to be really bothered by it. I for example prefer ctrl+c clipboard selection over middle mouse primary selection, but if you have the knowledge to fix this (which I don't have), then feel free. :) Peter

Jan. 21, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Running Pharo headless

by Michal Balda

Hi all, is there any difference between -vm-display-null and --no-display (and using both)? I used this command to successfully run a Seaside app on a headless Linux server, with a standard Pharo VM (not the Squeak one from the repositories): ./pharo-vm/pharo \ -vm-display-null \ -vm-sound-null \ --plugins ./pharo-vm \ --encoding utf8 \ ./image/Seaside.image \ --no-quit Or, to run a script at startup to initialize the app/server: ./pharo-vm/pharo \ -vm-display-null \ -vm-sound-null \ --plugins ./pharo-vm \ --encoding utf8 \ ./image/Seaside.image \ st ./startServer.st \ --no-quit Apart from running it under a limited user/group, it is also possible to chroot it for an extra security measure. Michal On 21.1.2015 09:16, ClÃ©ment Bera wrote: > Just a detail. When you run headless with the latest pharo-vm (that > you can download here: http://files.pharo.org/vm/pharo/ in your OS > directory, file stable.zip), add --no-quit after --no-display in the > VM start-up options. > > 2015-01-21 7:21 GMT+01:00 phil(a)highoctane.be > <mailto:phil@highoctane.be> <phil(a)highoctane.be > <mailto:phil@highoctane.be>>: > > why running pharo with a squeakvm? > > I am runnin headless with PharoVM here. > > Your vm params look like weird. > > I'll give you a copy of my CLI when I have access to my Pc. > > Phil > > Le 21 janv. 2015 03:59, "sergio_101" <sergio.rrd(a)gmail.com > <mailto:sergio.rrd@gmail.com>> a Ã©crit : > > #!/bin/bash > > # settings > USER="badgesoup" > VM="/usr/lib/squeak/4.10.2-2614/squeakvm" > VM_PARAMS="-mmap 256m -vm-sound-null -vm-display-null" > IMAGE="/home/badgesoup/badgesoup_image/Pharo3.0.image" > > # start the vm > exec \ > setuidgid "$USER" \ > "$VM" $VM_PARAMS "$IMAGE" > > On Tue Jan 20 2015 at 9:32:04 PM Esteban A. Maringolo > <emaringolo(a)gmail.com <mailto:emaringolo@gmail.com>> wrote: > > What is in the 'run' file? > > Esteban A. Maringolo > > > 2015-01-20 23:26 GMT-03:00 sergio_101 > <sergio.rrd(a)gmail.com <mailto:sergio.rrd@gmail.com>>: > > i am ready to put my seaside app online, and am finding > that all the > > information i am finding is outdated. > > > > I am running the latest Pharo (as of last night), and > ubuntu14.04. > > > > when i try to run using squeakvm, i get: > > > > $ sudo ./run > > 'Your VM is too old for this image. Please download the > latest VM.' > > 'Pharo cannot locate the sources file named > > /usr/lib/squeak/4.10.2-2614/PharoV30.sources. > > > > Please check that the file is named properly and is in the > > same directory as this image.' > > A PharoCommandLineHandler is xxxxxxxxx. > > > > everywhere i look, the information seems several years old.. > > > > ideas? thanks! > > > > > >

Jan. 21, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Running Pharo headless

by ClÃ©ment Bera

Just a detail. When you run headless with the latest pharo-vm (that you can download here: http://files.pharo.org/vm/pharo/ in your OS directory, file stable.zip), add --no-quit after --no-display in the VM start-up options. 2015-01-21 7:21 GMT+01:00 phil(a)highoctane.be <phil(a)highoctane.be>: > why running pharo with a squeakvm? > > I am runnin headless with PharoVM here. > > Your vm params look like weird. > > I'll give you a copy of my CLI when I have access to my Pc. > > Phil > Le 21 janv. 2015 03:59, "sergio_101" <sergio.rrd(a)gmail.com> a Ã©crit : > > #!/bin/bash >> >> # settings >> USER="badgesoup" >> VM="/usr/lib/squeak/4.10.2-2614/squeakvm" >> VM_PARAMS="-mmap 256m -vm-sound-null -vm-display-null" >> IMAGE="/home/badgesoup/badgesoup_image/Pharo3.0.image" >> >> # start the vm >> exec \ >> setuidgid "$USER" \ >> "$VM" $VM_PARAMS "$IMAGE" >> >> On Tue Jan 20 2015 at 9:32:04 PM Esteban A. Maringolo < >> emaringolo(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> What is in the 'run' file? >>> >>> Esteban A. Maringolo >>> >>> >>> 2015-01-20 23:26 GMT-03:00 sergio_101 <sergio.rrd(a)gmail.com>: >>> > i am ready to put my seaside app online, and am finding that all the >>> > information i am finding is outdated. >>> > >>> > I am running the latest Pharo (as of last night), and ubuntu14.04. >>> > >>> > when i try to run using squeakvm, i get: >>> > >>> > $ sudo ./run >>> > 'Your VM is too old for this image. Please download the latest VM.' >>> > 'Pharo cannot locate the sources file named >>> > /usr/lib/squeak/4.10.2-2614/PharoV30.sources. >>> > >>> > Please check that the file is named properly and is in the >>> > same directory as this image.' >>> > A PharoCommandLineHandler is xxxxxxxxx. >>> > >>> > everywhere i look, the information seems several years old.. >>> > >>> > ideas? thanks! >>> > >>> > >>> >>>

Jan. 21, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo and X11 primary selection (aka middle mouse button paste)

by Pieter Nagel

Hi, Thanks very much - "--textenc UTF-8" works for us! For the sake of others with the same issue reading this in the archives, I just want to be pedantic and point out that I doubt "--textenc UTF-8" is some magic panacea that will work for all systems. The issue seems to be that the encoding Pharo uses should match that of the surrounding system, which, for us, happens to be UTF-8 but could be different for others. I was a bit sloppy when I spoke of "middle button paste". I don't mean that the Pharo's paste command should be bound to the middle mouse button. I meant that Pharo should be able to paste the type of X11 selection (primary selection) that some other apps like terminals traditionally paste when you press the middle button. And that is still not implemented: I need to explicitly press "Copy" in Chrome before it is pasted to Pharo, just highlighting the text does not work. > Hi, > > try setting the encoding of pharo to unicode when launching from command > line and see if that fixes your problem: > --textenc UTF-8 > > The default encoding is not unicode which messes pasting from some > applications (e.g. Google Chrome 35+). > As far as middle mouse button pasting goes I do not believe Pharo supports > it - at least I haven't found any code related to it (although I would > love > to have this functionality). > > Peter > > On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 2:58 PM, Pieter Nagel <pieter(a)nagel.co.za> wrote: > >> Our team is very frustrated with figuring out how copy & paste is >> supposed >> to work in Pharo 3 under X11. >> >> Maybe there's something we misunderstand, or can configure? >> >> We can't copy and paste text directly from other X11 apps into Pharo. We >> need to first paste the text into text editors like GEdit or XEmacs, and >> then we can copy and paste the text from there into Pharo. >> >> I think this has something to do with X11's complicated model of primary >> vs. clipboard selection. The primary selection is typically created by >> just highlighting some text, and then (by common convention) can be >> pasted >> from by just pressing the middle mouse button. The clipboard selection >> is >> typically created by explicitly using Copy or Cut commands. >> >> Strange thing is, if we start with text in (for example) Google Chrome, >> then neither type of selection can be pasted into Pharo. If we start >> with >> text in (for example) GEdit, then both types of selection can be pasted >> into Pharo. >> >> We're using Unity under Ubuntu 12.04, if that makes a difference. >> >> Advice? >> >> Thanks. >> >> >> >

Jan. 21, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Running Pharo headless

by phil＠highoctane.be

why running pharo with a squeakvm? I am runnin headless with PharoVM here. Your vm params look like weird. I'll give you a copy of my CLI when I have access to my Pc. Phil Le 21 janv. 2015 03:59, "sergio_101" <sergio.rrd(a)gmail.com> a Ã©crit : > #!/bin/bash > > # settings > USER="badgesoup" > VM="/usr/lib/squeak/4.10.2-2614/squeakvm" > VM_PARAMS="-mmap 256m -vm-sound-null -vm-display-null" > IMAGE="/home/badgesoup/badgesoup_image/Pharo3.0.image" > > # start the vm > exec \ > setuidgid "$USER" \ > "$VM" $VM_PARAMS "$IMAGE" > > On Tue Jan 20 2015 at 9:32:04 PM Esteban A. Maringolo < > emaringolo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> What is in the 'run' file? >> >> Esteban A. Maringolo >> >> >> 2015-01-20 23:26 GMT-03:00 sergio_101 <sergio.rrd(a)gmail.com>: >> > i am ready to put my seaside app online, and am finding that all the >> > information i am finding is outdated. >> > >> > I am running the latest Pharo (as of last night), and ubuntu14.04. >> > >> > when i try to run using squeakvm, i get: >> > >> > $ sudo ./run >> > 'Your VM is too old for this image. Please download the latest VM.' >> > 'Pharo cannot locate the sources file named >> > /usr/lib/squeak/4.10.2-2614/PharoV30.sources. >> > >> > Please check that the file is named properly and is in the >> > same directory as this image.' >> > A PharoCommandLineHandler is xxxxxxxxx. >> > >> > everywhere i look, the information seems several years old.. >> > >> > ideas? thanks! >> > >> > >> >>

Jan. 21, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Running Pharo headless

by Alain Rastoul

Le 21/01/2015 03:26, sergio_101 a Ã©crit : > i am ready to put my seaside app online, and am finding that all the > information i am finding is outdated. > > I am running the latest Pharo (as of last night), and ubuntu14.04. > May be you installed squeak in your system from the ubuntu package management system, and it is quite outdated. You can install the pharo one with the little script given at: http://pharo.org/download You will get a newer pharo vm and a launcher that is very handy to manage images HTH -- Regards, Alain

Jan. 21, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Running Pharo headless

by sergio_101

#!/bin/bash # settings USER="badgesoup" VM="/usr/lib/squeak/4.10.2-2614/squeakvm" VM_PARAMS="-mmap 256m -vm-sound-null -vm-display-null" IMAGE="/home/badgesoup/badgesoup_image/Pharo3.0.image" # start the vm exec \ setuidgid "$USER" \ "$VM" $VM_PARAMS "$IMAGE" On Tue Jan 20 2015 at 9:32:04 PM Esteban A. Maringolo <emaringolo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > What is in the 'run' file? > > Esteban A. Maringolo > > > 2015-01-20 23:26 GMT-03:00 sergio_101 <sergio.rrd(a)gmail.com>: > > i am ready to put my seaside app online, and am finding that all the > > information i am finding is outdated. > > > > I am running the latest Pharo (as of last night), and ubuntu14.04. > > > > when i try to run using squeakvm, i get: > > > > $ sudo ./run > > 'Your VM is too old for this image. Please download the latest VM.' > > 'Pharo cannot locate the sources file named > > /usr/lib/squeak/4.10.2-2614/PharoV30.sources. > > > > Please check that the file is named properly and is in the > > same directory as this image.' > > A PharoCommandLineHandler is xxxxxxxxx. > > > > everywhere i look, the information seems several years old.. > > > > ideas? thanks! > > > > > >

Jan. 21, 2015