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Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo Sound of Silence

by Evan Donahue

That did the trick. Thanks. Evan -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Sound-of-Silence-tp4801562p4801633.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Jan. 26, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] OS Project with initial support for Ubuntu and Unix

by Torsten Bergmann

> i am not running ubuntu at all. and you wonder why an ubuntu specific project is not working - funny ;) > pharo4 is a few weeks old, i'll update that. > > i see no reason why opening a terminal should be ubuntu specific. in any case > though, it should just fail and not hang. Check class side methods UbuntuShell. It only calls "gnome-terminal" which might not be available. Bye T

Jan. 26, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] OS Project with initial support for Ubuntu and Unix

by Martin BÃ¤hr

Excerpts from Torsten Bergmann's message of 2015-01-26 05:14:38 +0100: > > i can't get it to work. > > whatever i try to load, pharo just hangs when i try to use one of the linux > > menu entries. > Are you sure you run the latest ubuntu, the latest 4.0 image and the latest Pharo > virtual machine? Did you follow the PPA installation guide on: http://pharo.org/download? i am not running ubuntu at all. pharo4 is a few weeks old, i'll update that. i see no reason why opening a terminal should be ubuntu specific. in any case though, it should just fail and not hang. > In any other case the debugger is your friend. Step through the methods > tell us where exactly it hangs (which call with with parameters). i need a little help here, i know how to use the debugger when it gets called on an error, but how do i start the debugger beforehand to trace what's happening before? do i need to set a breakpoint and then step through? where would i set that breakpoint? but before that, what do i need to actually install? just OSLinuxUbuntu or OSUnix as well? greetings, martin. -- eKita - the online platform for your entire academic life -- chief engineer eKita.co pike programmer pike.lysator.liu.se caudium.net societyserver.org secretary beijinglug.org mentor fossasia.org foresight developer foresightlinux.org realss.com unix sysadmin Martin BÃ¤hr working in china http://societyserver.org/mbaehr/

Jan. 26, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] smalltalk, objects and design - chamond liu

by Sebastian Heidbrink

no! On 2015-01-25 7:48 PM, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: > thanks. a question; would the second book require me to work through the > original book on design patterns first? > > ~mayuresh > > On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 06:06:31PM -0800, Sebastian Heidbrink wrote: >> Definitely a good book! >> >> You might also consider these, too: >> >> for the couch, or desk while waiting: >> http://sdmeta.gforge.inria.fr/FreeBooks/WithStyle/SmalltalkWithStyle.pdf >> >> a must >> http://www.amazon.ca/The-Design-Patterns-Smalltalk-Companion/dp/0201184621 >> >> Sebastian >> >> >> On 2015-01-25 1:37 PM, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: >>> hello, >>> >>> would the book; smalltalk, objects and design by chamond liu be >>> considered good to work through using "pharo"? >>> >>> i am currently working through; squeak, a quick trip to object-land. >>> while nice as an introduction, doesn't feel like it might be deep enough >>> for me as i progress further. >>> >>> i am looking at the pharo books, but, a previous discussion mentioned >>> something about newer versions being in the works, would prefer to wait >>> for them. >>> >>> ~mayuresh >>> >>> >>> >> >

Jan. 26, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] OS Project with initial support for Ubuntu and Unix

by Torsten Bergmann

> i can't get it to work. > whatever i try to load, pharo just hangs when i try to use one of the linux > menu entries. Are you sure you run the latest ubuntu, the latest 4.0 image and the latest Pharo virtual machine? Did you follow the PPA installation guide on: http://pharo.org/download? In any other case the debugger is your friend. Step through the methods tell us where exactly it hangs (which call with with parameters). Thx T.

Jan. 26, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] OS Project with initial support for Ubuntu and Unix

by Martin BÃ¤hr

Excerpts from Torsten Bergmann's message of 2015-01-09 11:27:01 +0100: > beside the existing "OS-Windows" support for Windows operating system > the "Pharo OS project" (http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~OS) now also has > new subprojects for "OS-Unix" and "OS-Linux-Ubuntu" with some initial > support for these native platforms as well. > > You can load it from the config browser in Pharo 4.0. I guess the > attached screenshot will explain it all... i can't get it to work. whatever i try to load, pharo just hangs when i try to use one of the linux menu entries. greetings, martin. -- eKita - the online platform for your entire academic life -- chief engineer eKita.co pike programmer pike.lysator.liu.se caudium.net societyserver.org secretary beijinglug.org mentor fossasia.org foresight developer foresightlinux.org realss.com unix sysadmin Martin BÃ¤hr working in china http://societyserver.org/mbaehr/

Jan. 26, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] smalltalk, objects and design - chamond liu

by Mayuresh Kathe

thanks. a question; would the second book require me to work through the original book on design patterns first? ~mayuresh On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 06:06:31PM -0800, Sebastian Heidbrink wrote: > Definitely a good book! > > You might also consider these, too: > > for the couch, or desk while waiting: > http://sdmeta.gforge.inria.fr/FreeBooks/WithStyle/SmalltalkWithStyle.pdf > > a must > http://www.amazon.ca/The-Design-Patterns-Smalltalk-Companion/dp/0201184621 > > Sebastian > > > On 2015-01-25 1:37 PM, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: > >hello, > > > >would the book; smalltalk, objects and design by chamond liu be > >considered good to work through using "pharo"? > > > >i am currently working through; squeak, a quick trip to object-land. > >while nice as an introduction, doesn't feel like it might be deep enough > >for me as i progress further. > > > >i am looking at the pharo books, but, a previous discussion mentioned > >something about newer versions being in the works, would prefer to wait > >for them. > > > >~mayuresh > > > > > > > >

Jan. 26, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] smalltalk, objects and design - chamond liu

by Mayuresh Kathe

great. i think i'll work through it to get a better grip over smalltalk using "pharo", post which i'll start off with the "pharo" books. thanks for the note. ~mayuresh On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 10:43:48PM -0300, Ignacio Sniechowski wrote: > It's a very good introductory book for Smalltalk in general but it is not > focused on Pharo but in IBM's Smalltalk. It has a good treatment of OOP, > and the basic classes. But if you want to learn about specific Pharo > frameworks and APIs it wont help you that much. > cheers > Nacho > > > > *Lic. Ignacio Sniechowski, MBA* > *Prosavic SRL* > > *Tel: (011) 4542-6714* > > > > On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 6:37 PM, Mayuresh Kathe <mayuresh(a)kathe.in> wrote: > > > hello, > > > > would the book; smalltalk, objects and design by chamond liu be > > considered good to work through using "pharo"? > > > > i am currently working through; squeak, a quick trip to object-land. > > while nice as an introduction, doesn't feel like it might be deep enough > > for me as i progress further. > > > > i am looking at the pharo books, but, a previous discussion mentioned > > something about newer versions being in the works, would prefer to wait > > for them. > > > > ~mayuresh > > > > > >

Jan. 26, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] any imap + smtp client available?

by Mayuresh Kathe

On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 10:44:29AM +0800, Ben Coman wrote: > On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 5:42 AM, Mayuresh Kathe <mayuresh(a)kathe.in> wrote: > > > hello, > > > > is there any email client with imap + smtp support available under > > "pharo" at the moment? > > > > problem: > > due to compute power constraints, i am running "pharo" as my only > > application via xinit, having to constantly switch between "pharo" > > and console (for mutt) is becoming painful. :) > > > > > > > I don't think so. The email client I've seen mentioned most often is > Celeste, but having a browse around it doesn't seem to support imap, and I > can't find a repository that seems alive. > > On squeaksource.com there is > * Celeste - browsing around it seems this doesn't support IMAP > * Hermes IMAP Email Client > * IMAP > > They all seem fairly old. Since the UI probably is where greatest changes > might have occurred, I wonder with the last one would be the best to use > and roll your own UI using Glamour. Email is kind of a drill-down > application suited to Glamour. > > btw just curious, how are you switching between consoles? Using > CTRL+ALT+F(1-6) ? first attempt was indeed to use that (ctrl + alt + fn1 ~ fn6) approach, but after a few switches my system just hung. now, i have disciplined myself to first work through every email, then work with pharo as much as i can, take notes about stuff i get stuck at, exit pharo (and the x session), and head over to mutt. :( ~mayuresh

Jan. 26, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] any imap + smtp client available?

by Ben Coman

On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 5:42 AM, Mayuresh Kathe <mayuresh(a)kathe.in> wrote: > hello, > > is there any email client with imap + smtp support available under > "pharo" at the moment? > > problem: > due to compute power constraints, i am running "pharo" as my only > application via xinit, having to constantly switch between "pharo" > and console (for mutt) is becoming painful. :) > > > I don't think so. The email client I've seen mentioned most often is Celeste, but having a browse around it doesn't seem to support imap, and I can't find a repository that seems alive. On squeaksource.com there is * Celeste - browsing around it seems this doesn't support IMAP * Hermes IMAP Email Client * IMAP They all seem fairly old. Since the UI probably is where greatest changes might have occurred, I wonder with the last one would be the best to use and roll your own UI using Glamour. Email is kind of a drill-down application suited to Glamour. btw just curious, how are you switching between consoles? Using CTRL+ALT+F(1-6) ? cheers -ben

Jan. 26, 2015