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Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo Shop

by stepharo

Forgotten.... We should use it again. Lusy and (I do not remember his name) made a good job. Le 31/1/15 21:58, Torsten Bergmann a Ã©crit : > What happened to the Pharo shop ... > > http://old.pharo-project.org/community/shop > > it's online but seems not be linked from the new webpage. > > >

Feb. 1, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Rule engine

by stepharo

Pay attention this is just a little implementation. Le 1/2/15 08:31, HernÃ¡n Morales Durand a Ã©crit : > Thank you for the links. > > HernÃ¡n > > > 2015-01-31 17:27 GMT-03:00 stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr > <mailto:stepharo@free.fr>>: > > > I would be curious to hear more about the various projects > mentioned in this > thread. > > SOUL was a prolog with an extra term that unified method AST. > Check Roel Wuyts, Andy Kellens, Johan Brichau > At the VUB in the Soft (prog lab) previously the group was doing > logic meta programming. > Kris Gybels from the same group was working on Rete or may be > this is Koen deRover. > > NeoPus was (not working anymore) a rule-based system that could > use object for fact and change. > I have the doc around if you want. > > Herve Verjus > http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~HerveVerjus/SmallAI > <http://smalltalkhub.com/#%21/%7EHerveVerjus/SmallAI> > is a little project to support backward and forward chainer. > > > I am working on a constraint logic system that has been used > as a > backend for a variety of inference systems in other languages. > > Can you explain a bit more? > > > Thanks, > Evan > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://forum.world.st/Rule-engine-tp4801671p4802961.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at > Nabble.com. > > > > >

Feb. 1, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Rule engine

by HernÃ¡n Morales Durand

Thank you for the links. HernÃ¡n 2015-01-31 17:27 GMT-03:00 stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr>: > > I would be curious to hear more about the various projects mentioned in >> this >> thread. >> > SOUL was a prolog with an extra term that unified method AST. > Check Roel Wuyts, Andy Kellens, Johan Brichau > At the VUB in the Soft (prog lab) previously the group was doing logic > meta programming. > Kris Gybels from the same group was working on Rete or may be this is > Koen deRover. > > NeoPus was (not working anymore) a rule-based system that could use object > for fact and change. > I have the doc around if you want. > > Herve Verjus > http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~HerveVerjus/SmallAI > is a little project to support backward and forward chainer. > > > I am working on a constraint logic system that has been used as a >> backend for a variety of inference systems in other languages. >> > Can you explain a bit more? > > >> Thanks, >> Evan >> >> >> >> -- >> View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Rule- >> engine-tp4801671p4802961.html >> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> >> >> > >

Feb. 1, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Seaside on Pharo - Why the weird jQuery integration syntax compared to Scriptaculous?

by jtuchel＠objektfabrik.de

As Phil stated already, there is not much documentation on Seaside/JQuery. There are a few slide decks by Lukas, Johan and Adrian that you can find on slideshare, but you are pretty much on your own to find our about it. Sad but true. Am 01.02.15 um 00:09 schrieb Mircea S.: > Are there any Guides of any kind? > > The seaside book seems to have some jQuery parts but they are sketchy > and commenting is disabled so I can't correct them. > > > > Pe 1 feb. 2015, la 00:10, "phil(a)highoctane.be > <mailto:phil@highoctane.be>" <phil(a)highoctane.be > <mailto:phil@highoctane.be>> a scris: > >> >> Le 31 janv. 2015 22:37, "Mircea S." <mircea(a)unom.ro >> <mailto:mircea@unom.ro>> a Ã©crit : >> > >> > >> > Seaside on Pharo - Why the weird jQuery integration syntax compared >> to Scriptaculous? >> > >> > Ex1: >> > >> > html scriptaculous sortable onUpdate: (html scriptaculous... etc). >> > >> > html jQuery new sortable onStop: (html jQuery... etc). >> > >> > Ex2: >> > >> > html scriptaculous effect id: helpId; toggleAppear. >> > >> > (html jQuery id: helpId) slideToggle: 1 seconds. >> > >> > The way jQuery and Scriptaculous were integrated 'seems' similar. >> Can anyone explain what design change took place between the two and >> it's effect on syntax? >> > >> > PS. Especially in the last example. >> >> Mostly because that is how jQuery works. >> >> This is mapping the jQuery API. >> >> A good trick is to halt around those calls and inspect what the >> expression between parentheses gives. >> >> This helped me tremendously in understanding how jQuery worked with >> Seaside. Docs are quite shallow in that area but the system works >> very well. >> >> Check the tests and JQWidgetbox for a ton of samples. >> >> HTH >> Phil >> >> > >> > >> -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Objektfabrik Joachim Tuchel mailto:jtuchel@objektfabrik.de Fliederweg 1 http://www.objektfabrik.de D-71640 Ludwigsburg http://joachimtuchel.wordpress.com Telefon: +49 7141 56 10 86 0 Fax: +49 7141 56 10 86 1

Feb. 1, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Autoformatting extisting packages

by Ben Coman

On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 6:08 AM, Laura Risani <laura.risani(a)gmail.com> wrote: > @Ben > >> would an equivalent be to be able to programmatically perform the > <Format> menu item that is on the editor menu? > Thats a nice idea! I will try it. > > @Paul > I wan't to reformat the methods. Not sure if you're implying that to > format method's code is the responsibility of browsers, i haven't tought of > it before, in that case i would agree with you. > > I've found out there is a class #RBPrettyPrintCodeRefactoring , i'll try > to figure out if it would do the work > I was curious to have a quick look at that and the best way is having in run in context. But in System Browser, right clicking on the class > Analyze > Class Refs... doesn't bring up anything. General question for the list, how do the refactoring classes get tied into the system? cheers -ben

Feb. 1, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Seaside on Pharo - Why the weird jQuery integration syntax compared to Scriptaculous?

by Mircea S.

Are there any Guides of any kind? The seaside book seems to have some jQuery parts but they are sketchy and commenting is disabled so I can't correct them. Pe 1 feb. 2015, la 00:10, "phil(a)highoctane.be" <phil(a)highoctane.be> a scris: > > Le 31 janv. 2015 22:37, "Mircea S." <mircea(a)unom.ro> a Ã©crit : > > > > > > Seaside on Pharo - Why the weird jQuery integration syntax compared to Scriptaculous? > > > > Ex1: > > > > html scriptaculous sortable onUpdate: (html scriptaculous... etc). > > > > html jQuery new sortable onStop: (html jQuery... etc). > > > > Ex2: > > > > html scriptaculous effect id: helpId; toggleAppear. > > > > (html jQuery id: helpId) slideToggle: 1 seconds. > > > > The way jQuery and Scriptaculous were integrated 'seems' similar. Can anyone explain what design change took place between the two and it's effect on syntax? > > > > PS. Especially in the last example. > > Mostly because that is how jQuery works. > > This is mapping the jQuery API. > > A good trick is to halt around those calls and inspect what the expression between parentheses gives. > > This helped me tremendously in understanding how jQuery worked with Seaside. Docs are quite shallow in that area but the system works very well. > > Check the tests and JQWidgetbox for a ton of samples. > > HTH > Phil > > > > > >

Jan. 31, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Code completion differences at browser and workspace

by Laura Risani

Hi Nicolai , I have noticed what you say, because there is a label in code completion with the class name . Yet what i haven't explicitly considered before, and your comment made me notice, is that in order to code copmletition to function properly, all the previous text should be a valid expression. Thank you for the teaching! Best, Laura On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 9:02 PM, Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess(a)web.de> wrote: > 2015-01-29 22:06 GMT+01:00 Laura Risani <laura.risani(a)gmail.com>: > >> Hi all, >> >> I've noticed that the code completition tool shows a different list if >> brought up at a workspace or at a system browser. Particulary workspace's >> completition list is broader than browser's one. >> >> For instance if while writting a method i have already accepted other >> method names but haven't yet defined them in any class, these selectors are >> shown in worskpace's completition but don't in browser's. So while at the >> system browser i have to waste keystrokes bringing up the manually the >> other completition tool and search in that list the selector i want. >> >> So, question : how do i make the completition tool show at system browser >> the same list that it would show at a workspace? >> >> Best, >> Laura >> > > > There is one difference between the Workspace and the SystemBrowser. > In the SystemBrowers, the one method that you are editing belongs to one > (known) class and if you > start typing > "self" > the code completion can guess which methods of that class (or > superclasses) can be called. > In the Workspace you don't have this (class-) context. > > But the code completion is smart enough to guess the actual type in some > situations, for example > in a Workspace: > > |m| > m:= new Morph. > m handleKey > > at this point, the code completion context knows, that "m" is a Morph and > therefore only shows the methods > from the class Morph, starting with "handleKey". > This completion menu should be the same, as if you start with > self handleKey > in the SystemBrowser, while editing a method of the class Morph. > > nicolai > > >

Jan. 31, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] How do I save contents of Workspace into a collection?

by Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas

Hi Frank, Just reading old mail to catch up with community memory I found this mail. I don't know if you know about playgrounds on Moose[1], which by default stores all playgrounds (kind of rethought workspaces) in a cache. Also I'm working recently on Grafoscopio[2] which is a project that can store workspaces content and mix them with documentation (still on alpha status). [1] http://moosetechnology.org/ [2] http://mutabit.com/offray/static/blog/output/posts/grafoscopio-idea-and-ini… May be taking a look of them could help you to explore solutions that fit you more. Cheers, Offray El 07/01/13 a las 07:43, Frank Church escribiÃ³: > Hi guys, > > My images are gathering a number of Workspaces whose contents I don't want to > delete. > > I want to create a collection of Workspace contents along this defintion: > > Description > Date > Category > Content (the actual text in the Workspace). > > In the final version I would like to be able to select a workspace and simply > click a button or a menu item and get a dialog where I can enter the > Description, Category and Date with the Workspace contents automatically > captured into a text box. Copying and pasting the contents would be okay to > start with. > > Filing it out would be another aspect later. > > What kind of array would best suited to the task? There is quite a number of > them depicted here: http://www.jmcsweeney.co.uk/computing/m206/collections_intro.php > > What could be the best way to go about it? > > For those who are curious I am experimenting with the original ideas of > Smalltalk where a computer user would do everything in Smalltalk > workspace/desktop. I am intrigued by the possibility and somehow it seems > eminently doable. > > -- > Frank Church > > ======================= > http://devblog.brahmancreations.com >

Jan. 31, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Seaside on Pharo - Why the weird jQuery integration syntax compared to Scriptaculous?

by phil＠highoctane.be

Le 31 janv. 2015 22:37, "Mircea S." <mircea(a)unom.ro> a Ã©crit : > > > Seaside on Pharo - Why the weird jQuery integration syntax compared to Scriptaculous? > > Ex1: > > html scriptaculous sortable onUpdate: (html scriptaculous... etc). > > html jQuery new sortable onStop: (html jQuery... etc). > > Ex2: > > html scriptaculous effect id: helpId; toggleAppear. > > (html jQuery id: helpId) slideToggle: 1 seconds. > > The way jQuery and Scriptaculous were integrated 'seems' similar. Can anyone explain what design change took place between the two and it's effect on syntax? > > PS. Especially in the last example. Mostly because that is how jQuery works. This is mapping the jQuery API. A good trick is to halt around those calls and inspect what the expression between parentheses gives. This helped me tremendously in understanding how jQuery worked with Seaside. Docs are quite shallow in that area but the system works very well. Check the tests and JQWidgetbox for a ton of samples. HTH Phil > >

Jan. 31, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Autoformatting extisting packages

by Laura Risani

@Ben >> would an equivalent be to be able to programmatically perform the <Format> menu item that is on the editor menu? Thats a nice idea! I will try it. @Paul I wan't to reformat the methods. Not sure if you're implying that to format method's code is the responsibility of browsers, i haven't tought of it before, in that case i would agree with you. I've found out there is a class #RBPrettyPrintCodeRefactoring , i'll try to figure out if it would do the work Thank for your answers! Best, Laura On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 12:09 AM, Ben Coman <btc(a)openinworld.com> wrote: > For lack of a better answer, would an equivalent be to be able to > programmatically perform the <Format> menu item that is on the editor menu? > > Here is how I learnt a lot about Pharo... > 1. Open the editor menu and bring up halos on the <Format> menu item. > (key modifier combination varies between OS platform) > 2. Click the spanner "debug" icon and choose <inspect morph> > 3. Look through all the instance vars for the message that seems to invoke > the formatting. Browse all implementors of that message adding "self halt" > at the top. > 4. Execute the command and trace through how its done behind the scenes, > and adapt to your requirements. > > HTH, cheers -ben > > On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 5:08 AM, Laura Risani <laura.risani(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> How do i apply autoformatting to existing packages? I've read somewhere >> that this functionality used to be at the refactoring menu, but i can't >> find it, don't know if it has been renamed or moved. >> >> Best, >> Laura >> > >

Jan. 31, 2015