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Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 4 - current state?

by kilon alios

I made a video tutorial about it here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNh6VtPy8m4&list=PLqbtQ7OkSta0ULYAd7Qdxof85… Well Pharo 4 comes with GT tools a new inspector and a new workspace. I am also a huge fan of the new Dark Theme. Using Pharo makes you feel like Neo from The Matrix , you look at the screen , realise the power of live coding and you say "WOW" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjBRNqwDPrU Sure Pharo is far from perfect , it comes with its own kind of annoyances but I think its so beautifully unique its hard to resist. On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 8:10 PM, sergio_101 <sergio.rrd(a)gmail.com> wrote: > okay, you've got me to switch.. anyway.. it's not that big deal to fire up > pharo 3 with the same codebase.. > > i think i saw GTSpotter on a screencast somewhere.. i will go look for it.. > > when you mention the other nice things, where can i find them? where > should i look? > > my day time development team (ruby and objective-c) is working on a side > project during lunch presentations, and then on our own time. it will be a > commercial product, and we're doing it in seaside.. .hopefully this will > generate 6 new converts into the fold. it is kind of confusing for everyone > at first.. but during our meetings, things get cleared up and people are > getting a good handle on all of it... > > to the point that during regular work, i am starting to hear "i wish we > (ruby ecosystem) had (insert ST goodness) here.." > > On Fri Feb 20 2015 at 12:07:03 PM kilon alios <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> I work with Pharo 4 and no longer use Pharo 3, its very stable I have not >> experienced any kind of problem with it except one with autocompletion when >> I was hacking Pharo themes for my Nirreas project. >> >> Definetly recommend it to you to switch just for GTSpotter alone and many >> other new nice things. >> >> There million ways to help, you can a) bug fix c) document d) make your >> own tools and share them with the rest of us e) introduce pharo to other >> people so we can grow as a community and the list goes on and on. >> >> I only spend a hour a day with Pharo but is my happiest hour :) >> >> On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 6:13 PM, sergio_101 <sergio.rrd(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hey, all. >>> >>> I had an hour last night to start playing with pharo 4. >>> >>> in the hour that played with it, there are already features i miss when >>> going back to pharo 3 for getting work done. >>> >>> my questions is, how close is pharo 4 to be useable in a day to day >>> environment? >>> >>> can i use it as a part of my regular development? >>> >>> what can i do to help move everything along? >>> >>> thanks! >>> >> >>

Feb. 20, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 4 - current state?

by phil＠highoctane.be

Le 20 fÃ©vr. 2015 19:10, "sergio_101" <sergio.rrd(a)gmail.com> a Ã©crit : > > okay, you've got me to switch.. anyway.. it's not that big deal to fire up pharo 3 with the same codebase.. > > i think i saw GTSpotter on a screencast somewhere.. i will go look for it.. > > when you mention the other nice things, where can i find them? where should i look? > > my day time development team (ruby and objective-c) is working on a side project during lunch presentations, and then on our own time. it will be a commercial product, and we're doing it in seaside.. .hopefully this will generate 6 new converts into the fold. it is kind of confusing for everyone at first.. but during our meetings, things get cleared up and people are getting a good handle on all of it... > > to the point that during regular work, i am starting to hear "i wish we (ruby ecosystem) had (insert ST goodness) here.." I'd like to ask you for a lit of these. Also, what are the things that required to be cleared up? TIA Phil > > On Fri Feb 20 2015 at 12:07:03 PM kilon alios <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I work with Pharo 4 and no longer use Pharo 3, its very stable I have not experienced any kind of problem with it except one with autocompletion when I was hacking Pharo themes for my Nirreas project. >> >> Definetly recommend it to you to switch just for GTSpotter alone and many other new nice things. >> >> There million ways to help, you can a) bug fix c) document d) make your own tools and share them with the rest of us e) introduce pharo to other people so we can grow as a community and the list goes on and on. >> >> I only spend a hour a day with Pharo but is my happiest hour :) >> >> On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 6:13 PM, sergio_101 <sergio.rrd(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hey, all. >>> >>> I had an hour last night to start playing with pharo 4. >>> >>> in the hour that played with it, there are already features i miss when going back to pharo 3 for getting work done. >>> >>> my questions is, how close is pharo 4 to be useable in a day to day environment? >>> >>> can i use it as a part of my regular development? >>> >>> what can i do to help move everything along? >>> >>> thanks! >> >>

Feb. 20, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 4 - current state?

by sergio_101

okay, you've got me to switch.. anyway.. it's not that big deal to fire up pharo 3 with the same codebase.. i think i saw GTSpotter on a screencast somewhere.. i will go look for it.. when you mention the other nice things, where can i find them? where should i look? my day time development team (ruby and objective-c) is working on a side project during lunch presentations, and then on our own time. it will be a commercial product, and we're doing it in seaside.. .hopefully this will generate 6 new converts into the fold. it is kind of confusing for everyone at first.. but during our meetings, things get cleared up and people are getting a good handle on all of it... to the point that during regular work, i am starting to hear "i wish we (ruby ecosystem) had (insert ST goodness) here.." On Fri Feb 20 2015 at 12:07:03 PM kilon alios <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I work with Pharo 4 and no longer use Pharo 3, its very stable I have not > experienced any kind of problem with it except one with autocompletion when > I was hacking Pharo themes for my Nirreas project. > > Definetly recommend it to you to switch just for GTSpotter alone and many > other new nice things. > > There million ways to help, you can a) bug fix c) document d) make your > own tools and share them with the rest of us e) introduce pharo to other > people so we can grow as a community and the list goes on and on. > > I only spend a hour a day with Pharo but is my happiest hour :) > > On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 6:13 PM, sergio_101 <sergio.rrd(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hey, all. >> >> I had an hour last night to start playing with pharo 4. >> >> in the hour that played with it, there are already features i miss when >> going back to pharo 3 for getting work done. >> >> my questions is, how close is pharo 4 to be useable in a day to day >> environment? >> >> can i use it as a part of my regular development? >> >> what can i do to help move everything along? >> >> thanks! >> > >

Feb. 20, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 4 - current state?

by kilon alios

I work with Pharo 4 and no longer use Pharo 3, its very stable I have not experienced any kind of problem with it except one with autocompletion when I was hacking Pharo themes for my Nirreas project. Definetly recommend it to you to switch just for GTSpotter alone and many other new nice things. There million ways to help, you can a) bug fix c) document d) make your own tools and share them with the rest of us e) introduce pharo to other people so we can grow as a community and the list goes on and on. I only spend a hour a day with Pharo but is my happiest hour :) On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 6:13 PM, sergio_101 <sergio.rrd(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hey, all. > > I had an hour last night to start playing with pharo 4. > > in the hour that played with it, there are already features i miss when > going back to pharo 3 for getting work done. > > my questions is, how close is pharo 4 to be useable in a day to day > environment? > > can i use it as a part of my regular development? > > what can i do to help move everything along? > > thanks! >

Feb. 20, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 4 - current state?

by Martin BÃ¤hr

Excerpts from sergio_101's message of 2015-02-20 17:13:56 +0100: > I had an hour last night to start playing with pharo 4. > > in the hour that played with it, there are already features i miss when > going back to pharo 3 for getting work done. > > my questions is, how close is pharo 4 to be useable in a day to day > environment? > > can i use it as a part of my regular development? i am using it since last month without troubles. though i only do light development mostly with zinc. greetings, martin. -- eKita - the online platform for your entire academic life -- chief engineer eKita.co pike programmer pike.lysator.liu.se caudium.net societyserver.org secretary beijinglug.org mentor fossasia.org foresight developer foresightlinux.org realss.com unix sysadmin Martin BÃ¤hr working in china http://societyserver.org/mbaehr/

Feb. 20, 2015

Pharo 4 - current state?

by sergio_101

Hey, all. I had an hour last night to start playing with pharo 4. in the hour that played with it, there are already features i miss when going back to pharo 3 for getting work done. my questions is, how close is pharo 4 to be useable in a day to day environment? can i use it as a part of my regular development? what can i do to help move everything along? thanks!

Feb. 20, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo and Docker

by Sean P. DeNigris

ksi wrote > Already accomplished for archlinux - https://hub.docker.com/u/geal/ > The motivaton behind it - > https://www.clever-cloud.com/blog/guests/2015/01/05/smalltalk-in-the-cloud/ > > Cheers > Kiril ----- Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-and-Docker-tp4806601p4806689.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Feb. 20, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo and Docker

by Alexandre Bergel

Excellent link! Alexandre > Le 20 fÃ©vr. 2015 Ã 06:46, "phil(a)highoctane.be" <phil(a)highoctane.be> a Ã©crit : > > https://www.clever-cloud.com/blog/guests/2015/01/05/smalltalk-in-the-cloud/ > > Le 20 fÃ©vr. 2015 10:59, "S Krish" <krishnamachari.sudhakar(a)gmail.com> a Ã©crit : >> >> Not so much Pharo on Docker, but a complete stack on Docker based on Pharo: >> >> * Seaside or any web framework.. >> * Multi module that can be fabric like be brought up for scaling >> >> * Moose >> ... >> >>> On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 2:22 PM, Torsten Bergmann <astares(a)gmx.de> wrote: >>> Docker is on hype these days: >>> https://www.docker.com/whatisdocker/ >>> >>> Would it make sense to provide Pharo as preconfigured environment >>> (Pharo/Seaside stack) or other environments like the PharoNOS >>> project in the Docker registry?

Feb. 20, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo and Docker

by S Krish

Sweet stuff.. I was planning on the Seaside-Angular-REST Teapot+Java Spark modules on Docker.. Will catch up on this.. On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 4:16 PM, phil(a)highoctane.be <phil(a)highoctane.be> wrote: > https://www.clever-cloud.com/blog/guests/2015/01/05/smalltalk-in-the-cloud/ > Le 20 fÃ©vr. 2015 10:59, "S Krish" <krishnamachari.sudhakar(a)gmail.com> a > Ã©crit : > > >> Not so much Pharo on Docker, but a complete stack on Docker based on >> Pharo: >> >> * Seaside or any web framework.. >> * Multi module that can be fabric like be brought up for scaling >> >> * Moose >> ... >> >> On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 2:22 PM, Torsten Bergmann <astares(a)gmx.de> wrote: >> >>> Docker is on hype these days: >>> https://www.docker.com/whatisdocker/ >>> >>> Would it make sense to provide Pharo as preconfigured environment >>> (Pharo/Seaside stack) or other environments like the PharoNOS >>> project in the Docker registry? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>

Feb. 20, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo and Docker

by phil＠highoctane.be

https://www.clever-cloud.com/blog/guests/2015/01/05/smalltalk-in-the-cloud/ Le 20 fÃ©vr. 2015 10:59, "S Krish" <krishnamachari.sudhakar(a)gmail.com> a Ã©crit : > > Not so much Pharo on Docker, but a complete stack on Docker based on Pharo: > > * Seaside or any web framework.. > * Multi module that can be fabric like be brought up for scaling > > * Moose > ... > > On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 2:22 PM, Torsten Bergmann <astares(a)gmx.de> wrote: > >> Docker is on hype these days: >> https://www.docker.com/whatisdocker/ >> >> Would it make sense to provide Pharo as preconfigured environment >> (Pharo/Seaside stack) or other environments like the PharoNOS >> project in the Docker registry? >> >> >> >> >> >> >

Feb. 20, 2015