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Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] Cleaning/Simplifying Nautilus

by stepharo

As soon as Pharo 5.0 is out it will get in :) Again we will do videos and I do not want to have to work at that time on it. We will have to fix all the shortcuts also because we still have Cmd + m and Cmd b+m ;)

March 22, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] Cleaning/Simplifying Nautilus

by Marcus Denker

> On 22 Mar 2015, at 00:31, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: > > But seriously, for 4.0 ? > Now ? > No, for Pharo5 of course. If you check the issue, it has explicit the Milestone âLaterâ. For Pharo4, we need to be careful: there are still 57 open issues, and it will be a challenge to fix them in one weekâ¦ Marcus

March 22, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo-Launcher Windows 8.1

by Jan B.

I confirm that this problem is even on Windows 7. I does not start without PharoV30.sources. Any option in settings is not solution in this case, because to get into settings, you have to open it first, which is not possible. Another thing is that in my opinion pharo launcher is not "advertised" enough. I mean it is so great tool it should be directly downloadable from http://pharo.org/ ... right now, I had a problem to find a download link for windows even with google. Jan kilon.alios wrote > there is also an options in settings that downloads and install sources > for > you automagically. > > This is the right place to report issues and if you are 100% sure its a > bug > you can report it also in the pharo fogbuz > > On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 7:04 PM, Sebastian Heidbrink < > sheidev@ > > > wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I recently mentioned issues with the installation of the pharo-launcher >> on >> Windows 8.1 >> >> Turned out I just needed to download the PharoV30.sources file and place >> into the installation folder. >> >> Now everything seems fine. >> >> Is this also a topic for the pharo bug list, or is there another place >> where I can mention this? >> >> Sebastian >> >> -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Launcher-Windows-8-1-tp4813640p4813978.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

March 22, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo-Launcher Windows 8.1

by Alain Rastoul

Le 22/03/2015 03:36, Ben Coman a Ã©crit : > It would be nice, but btw will not address that situation. Parties > interested in the issue woudl still need to copy mail list discussion > there, or link to the mail archive of the discussion. Fogbugz should > hold case history. > cheers -ben > You are right if you see the discussion in the list. I recently added a note to a case without seeing it was discussed in the list and think it was not the good place. A separate list for bugs (threads in the list do not allways clearly link to the bugs and they are lot of various threads) may have helped. With a tag in the title in case of opened bugs. I agree that fogbugz should hold the history. -- Regards, Alain

March 22, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo-Launcher Windows 8.1

by Ben Coman

On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 9:55 PM, Alain Rastoul <alf.mmm.cat(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Le 21/03/2015 14:08, stepharo a Ã©crit : > >> Nice idea! >> >>> I think that we should have a Pharo-bugs mailing list that gets >>> notified for each bug that is filled in fogbugz >>> >> > Yes that would be nice, when you look at bugs on fogbugz site, you do not > always see that it is discussed in the list (lot of threads) > > It would be nice, but btw will not address that situation. Parties interested in the issue woudl still need to copy mail list discussion there, or link to the mail archive of the discussion. Fogbugz should hold case history. cheers -ben

March 22, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] adding local repos to configuration browser

by Ben Coman

> Note to devs: It seems setting a value is a little broken in cleanly displaying the new value as it is typed. Only a blank field is shown, but the value still gets set with <enter>. This only happened one time. I cannot reproduce again. cheers -ben

March 22, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] adding local repos to configuration browser

by Ben Coman

There is probably not a built in way - but its open source so definitely possible to "hijack" it in any way you please. You just need to do some digging. Here is how... 1. Bring up halos on a useful button of Configuration Browser. Keep clicking to cycle through LabelMorph, AlignmentMorph until you get to PLuggableButtonMorph. 2. Click the spanner "Debug" icon and select "Inspect Morph". 3. Find somewhere to break the message sent when the button is clicked, which will vary with widget. In this case, you might change the /actionSelection/ from #action to #breakMe. Note to devs: It seems setting a value is a little broken in cleanly displaying the new value as it is typed. Only a blank field is shown, but the value still gets set with <enter>. 4. Now click the button (btw, make sure a package is selected). A debugger will open with "MNU #breakMe" at a #perform: message. 5. In the debugger, set /actionSelection/ back to #action, then <Restart> and step down to and then into the the #perform: message. Continue stepping to dig in behind the app. In this case you get to something interesting stepping into "actionHolder value value" , and further on where #selectedItem is sent searching on senders of #configurationList gives you a class of interest to look into. Look on the class-side of this to discover methods returning default values and put halts in these to see where they are called from when Configuration Browser initialises, and work out how to add your own. 6. Work out how to make it easier for others to add their our _local_ projects and contribute back for inclusion into Pharo. cheers -ben On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 8:19 PM, Peter UhnÃ¡k <i.uhnak(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > is it possible to hijack Configuration Browser and put there references to > my own _local_ projects? > > Thanks, > Peter >

March 22, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] Cleaning/Simplifying Nautilus

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

But seriously, for 4.0 ? Now ? > On 22 Mar 2015, at 00:04, Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess(a)web.de> wrote: > > > > 2015-03-21 23:02 GMT+01:00 stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr>: > Hi > > I want to clean Nautilus and to simplify its code and functionality. > In addition I want to reduce to student load in the context of the Mooc we will start to work on. > So I want to remove the lock mechanism and the multiple methods. This was an experience that did not > really work. It was nice to try but it is time to remove that. > > +1 (I never understood how to use this lock) > > > > So I hope that not many people use this feature. > > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?15199 > > After I will start to clean the group to keep a consistent and useful subset. > > Stef > > >

March 21, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] Cleaning/Simplifying Nautilus

by Nicolai Hess

2015-03-21 23:02 GMT+01:00 stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr>: > Hi > > I want to clean Nautilus and to simplify its code and functionality. > In addition I want to reduce to student load in the context of the Mooc we > will start to work on. > So I want to remove the lock mechanism and the multiple methods. This was > an experience that did not > really work. It was nice to try but it is time to remove that. > +1 (I never understood how to use this lock) > So I hope that not many people use this feature. > > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?15199 > > After I will start to clean the group to keep a consistent and useful > subset. > > Stef > > >

March 21, 2015

Cleaning/Simplifying Nautilus

by stepharo

Hi I want to clean Nautilus and to simplify its code and functionality. In addition I want to reduce to student load in the context of the Mooc we will start to work on. So I want to remove the lock mechanism and the multiple methods. This was an experience that did not really work. It was nice to try but it is time to remove that. So I hope that not many people use this feature. https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?15199 After I will start to clean the group to keep a consistent and useful subset. Stef

March 21, 2015