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Re: [Pharo-users] Package dependencies

by Laura Risani

Awww thank you Thierry ! This is so much fun :) On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 1:48 AM, Thierry Goubier <thierry.goubier(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Le 24/03/2015 05:03, Laura Risani a Ã©crit : > >> it is 'squidik' >> > > Done. Please check your Smalltalkhub account to see what has changed. > > OT: MetaRepoForPharo50 is already there :) > > Thierry > > On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 12:39 AM, Thierry Goubier >> <thierry.goubier(a)gmail.com <mailto:thierry.goubier@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> Le 24/03/2015 04:18, Laura Risani a Ã©crit : >> >> So can i just freely upload my project configuration package to >> MetaRepoForPharo40 (to 30?)? Do i need some type authorization? >> >> >> You need access to that repository. What is your username on >> Smalltalkhub? >> >> Thierry >> >> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 6:22 PM, Thierry Goubier >> <thierry.goubier(a)gmail.com <mailto:thierry.goubier@gmail.com> >> <mailto:thierry.goubier@gmail.__com >> <mailto:thierry.goubier@gmail.com>>> wrote: >> >> Le 23/03/2015 22:19, Laura Risani a Ã©crit : >> >> Didn't thought of it, then i should write a >> Configuration. How does >> Configuration Browser get to know about all the >> configurations >> it lists? >> >> >> As soon as the configuration is saved into the right >> repository, >> such as MetaRepoForPharo40 on smalltalkhub, then the >> configuration >> will appear in the configuration browser. >> >> Thierry >> >> >> >> >> >> > >

March 24, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Package dependencies

by Thierry Goubier

Le 24/03/2015 05:03, Laura Risani a Ã©crit : > it is 'squidik' Done. Please check your Smalltalkhub account to see what has changed. OT: MetaRepoForPharo50 is already there :) Thierry > On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 12:39 AM, Thierry Goubier > <thierry.goubier(a)gmail.com <mailto:thierry.goubier@gmail.com>> wrote: > > Le 24/03/2015 04:18, Laura Risani a Ã©crit : > > So can i just freely upload my project configuration package to > MetaRepoForPharo40 (to 30?)? Do i need some type authorization? > > > You need access to that repository. What is your username on > Smalltalkhub? > > Thierry > > On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 6:22 PM, Thierry Goubier > <thierry.goubier(a)gmail.com <mailto:thierry.goubier@gmail.com> > <mailto:thierry.goubier@gmail.__com > <mailto:thierry.goubier@gmail.com>>> wrote: > > Le 23/03/2015 22:19, Laura Risani a Ã©crit : > > Didn't thought of it, then i should write a > Configuration. How does > Configuration Browser get to know about all the > configurations > it lists? > > > As soon as the configuration is saved into the right > repository, > such as MetaRepoForPharo40 on smalltalkhub, then the > configuration > will appear in the configuration browser. > > Thierry > > > > >

March 24, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Package dependencies

by Laura Risani

it is 'squidik' On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 12:39 AM, Thierry Goubier <thierry.goubier(a)gmail.com > wrote: > Le 24/03/2015 04:18, Laura Risani a Ã©crit : > >> So can i just freely upload my project configuration package to >> MetaRepoForPharo40 (to 30?)? Do i need some type authorization? >> > > You need access to that repository. What is your username on Smalltalkhub? > > Thierry > > On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 6:22 PM, Thierry Goubier >> <thierry.goubier(a)gmail.com <mailto:thierry.goubier@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> Le 23/03/2015 22:19, Laura Risani a Ã©crit : >> >> Didn't thought of it, then i should write a Configuration. How >> does >> Configuration Browser get to know about all the configurations >> it lists? >> >> >> As soon as the configuration is saved into the right repository, >> such as MetaRepoForPharo40 on smalltalkhub, then the configuration >> will appear in the configuration browser. >> >> Thierry >> >> >> > >

March 24, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Package dependencies

by Thierry Goubier

Le 24/03/2015 04:18, Laura Risani a Ã©crit : > So can i just freely upload my project configuration package to > MetaRepoForPharo40 (to 30?)? Do i need some type authorization? You need access to that repository. What is your username on Smalltalkhub? Thierry > On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 6:22 PM, Thierry Goubier > <thierry.goubier(a)gmail.com <mailto:thierry.goubier@gmail.com>> wrote: > > Le 23/03/2015 22:19, Laura Risani a Ã©crit : > > Didn't thought of it, then i should write a Configuration. How does > Configuration Browser get to know about all the configurations > it lists? > > > As soon as the configuration is saved into the right repository, > such as MetaRepoForPharo40 on smalltalkhub, then the configuration > will appear in the configuration browser. > > Thierry > >

March 24, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Package dependencies

by Laura Risani

So can i just freely upload my project configuration package to MetaRepoForPharo40 (to 30?)? Do i need some type authorization? On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 6:22 PM, Thierry Goubier <thierry.goubier(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Le 23/03/2015 22:19, Laura Risani a Ã©crit : > >> Didn't thought of it, then i should write a Configuration. How does >> Configuration Browser get to know about all the configurations it lists? >> > > As soon as the configuration is saved into the right repository, such as > MetaRepoForPharo40 on smalltalkhub, then the configuration will appear in > the configuration browser. > > Thierry > >

March 24, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] new link to query all projects in smalltalkhub

by Martin BÃ¤hr

Excerpts from Merwan Ouddane's message of 2015-03-23 21:22:23 +0100: > I don't know if you want to spend some time on it, but what would be > great is for the projects to choose if they want to appear or not in > this list, there is already a distinction between public and private projects. as far as i could tell, private projects are not in the list. at least i could not find mine. > and have a little description of the project on mouse over :) please let the description be right next to the title, not hidden with mouseover. there are way to many projects to me mousing over each one to read them. greetings, martin. -- eKita - the online platform for your entire academic life -- chief engineer eKita.co pike programmer pike.lysator.liu.se caudium.net societyserver.org secretary beijinglug.org mentor fossasia.org foresight developer foresightlinux.org realss.com unix sysadmin Martin BÃ¤hr working in china http://societyserver.org/mbaehr/

March 24, 2015

choose event in Bern on March 31: alain plantec on Bloc + working session on Pharo IDE

by Tudor Girba

Hi, On March 31, we will have a one day of Pharo in Bern: 10:15 - 11:00 Talk by Alain Plantec on Bloc: Reinventing Morphic Registration: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/bloc-reinventing-morphic-choose-talk-tickets-5… 11:00 - 17:00 Working session on the Pharo IDE Registration: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/pharo-ide-choose-working-session-tickets-16283… The event will be held at the Software Composition Group: SchÃ¼tzenmattstrasse 14, Room 107, Bern The event is sponsored by CHOOSE a subgroup of the Swiss Informatics Society and hosted by the Software Composition Group at the University of Bern. They are primarily organized for CHOOSE and SI members, but the events are open for other students and professionals as well. Cheers, Doru -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"

March 23, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Collection with memory?

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

Stef, Like Denis said, there is no #next: in Xtreams, AFIACT. There are XTReadStream>>#get "Read an object from self. If there aren't any elements left in the stream, the Incomplete exception is raised." and XTReadStream>>#read: anInteger "Read anInteger's worth of elements from self and return them in a collection. If full anInteger number of elements cannot be read from the source, the Incomplete exception is raised." Like I said, these selector names were chosen to prevent confusion, on purpose. I think that is good. I also think that a lot of though went into the design. #++ could be aliased to #seekForward: and #-- to #seekBackward: I guess. I also do not really like the look of them. BTW, I think that the compatibility layer/wrapper is not good (I would be very surprised if it could hide all the semantic differences). What is the point to switch to a new stream API if you hide it ? Also, the current stream API is 'too wide', there are too many methods, too much is expected from streams. To change that, the users must be changed. Sven > On 23 Mar 2015, at 22:06, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: > > >>>>> Yes but with >>>>> r next. >>>>> r next >>>> The choice for different selector names was intentional, by design. To avoid confusion, because #next and #get are not 100% identical (semantically). This is an important point. >>> No I asked martin personally. This is the real reason. There were also experimenting to offer an API closer to other language. >>> So that we have >>> r get. >>> r next: 4 >> IIRC, one difference between #get and #next is that >> >> get cannot return nil and will throw an Incomplete exception when EOF >> next can return nil and might throws an Exception >> >> Changing the meaning of an existing selector will cause many problems and discussions. People will think they do not have to change anything and they will be wrong. > Indeed now this is still not a nice API. > So what would be a nice name for get > > I do not get it. I'm probably too tired > > get so it is named get and not next. > get cannot return nil and will throw an Incomplete exception when EOF > but > next: that could be confused with next > can return nil and might throws an Exception (because it should follow next) :) > No stupid stef. > next: is from xtreams so it should follow get > get cannot return nil and will throw an Incomplete exception when EOF > Ahhhhhhhh this is probably clear. > > So could we be consistent > > nextItem > nextItems: > putItem: > > > Now since in anyways people will have to revisit they wrapping of next calls > which should probably wraped into and Exception. > I do not see the problem. It is because there is a wrapper that would turn an Xstream stream into a old API (then again I do not understand > because since the wrapper is another class it can have a next method that delegates to the correct wrapped xstream which may have or not the same api. > So what is the point? > > I mean once xtream will replace the old one it will be for about 10 years so > I'm sorry but we should get the api right (and yes I know that ++ -= are correct smalltalk still they SUCK). > > Stef > > >

March 23, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Package dependencies

by Thierry Goubier

Le 23/03/2015 22:19, Laura Risani a Ã©crit : > Didn't thought of it, then i should write a Configuration. How does > Configuration Browser get to know about all the configurations it lists? As soon as the configuration is saved into the right repository, such as MetaRepoForPharo40 on smalltalkhub, then the configuration will appear in the configuration browser. Thierry

March 23, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Package dependencies

by Laura Risani

(i want to know what i should do to make my project available through it) On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 6:19 PM, Laura Risani <laura.risani(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Didn't thought of it, then i should write a Configuration. How does > Configuration Browser get to know about all the configurations it lists? > > On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 5:55 PM, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: > >> Mmmm, since the project is just one package and the additional packages >> are examples, i'm writing for the moment a Gofer script instead. >> >> this means that it will not be loadable from the MetacelloBrowser, that >> it will not appear in the catalog..... >> >> Stef >> >> Thank you! >> >> On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 1:53 PM, Thierry Goubier < >> thierry.goubier(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Le 22/03/2015 17:41, stepharo a Ã©crit : >>> >>>> Defining a configuration for your project. >>>> >>> >>> Even easier: define a BaselineOf for your project (a configuration will >>> have you write a baseline anyway). And use Metacello to load it. >>> >>> Thierry >>> >>> >>> You can have a look for example in the Mines configuration it depends on >>>> LedMorph >>>> >>>> Le 22/3/15 16:25, Laura Risani a Ã©crit : >>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> What's the easiest way at the moment to make a package when downloaded >>>>> from a repo automatically download others (which depend only on core >>>>> system classes)? >>>>> >>>>> Best, >>>>> Laura >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >

March 23, 2015