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Re: [Pharo-users] Boardician (board game framework)

by Laura Risani

Excellent! I have a todo list i'll work on including further class commenting, method classification on example games, ... I wanted to share what i have to get feedback. Feel free to add to the list! About the issue on EMonsterMover i thought back and forth about having only one configurable (dynamic choices) / the four (static choices). At the moment i went with the last one because i thought that despite not nice, it eased the reading being more explicit also i wasn't completely sure of being able to remove it. Now that it's finished it can be seen that is unnecessary not beautiful. Thank you for pointing it out, i'll change it. What names do you find confusing, which ones would you use instead? Have you read the first paragraphs of the documentation (mainly class comments)? On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 3:22 PM, kilon alios <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I am taking a look at your code and I dont understand something you have > in BgEatBullet package EMonster1Mover, EMonster2Mover , EMonster3Mover and > EMonster4Mover. All four classes are identical apart from the return > values in some methods. Why not use 1 class and 4 instances of that class > instead ? > > Also I second the name of the classes is confusing. >

March 26, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Boardician (board game framework)

by kilon alios

I am taking a look at your code and I dont understand something you have in BgEatBullet package EMonster1Mover, EMonster2Mover , EMonster3Mover and EMonster4Mover. All four classes are identical apart from the return values in some methods. Why not use 1 class and 4 instances of that class instead ? Also I second the name of the classes is confusing.

March 26, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Boardician (board game framework)

by kilon alios

" @kilon Mail me back if you do develop a game adding from you graphical capabilities. " hmm making a board game sound like a very nice idea indeed. Will keep you posted, definitely I am making something :)

March 26, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Boardician (board game framework)

by Laura Risani

> > I took some moments to look at the code with Olivier. > Excellent! All feedback is really valuable! (dear silent readers i care about your opinion, i assure you i'm not selling it) We think that the name of the project is strange and could be sexier :) > Previously you suggested 'MetaBoard', 'MetaBorg'. Anyone else any other name idea that balances declarativeness and sexiness? Should we care only for the latter? Declarativeness will kill sexiness? > First thumb up. > You developed this really fast and this is a good foundation. > > Olivier mentions http://tululoo.com in JavaScript > the framework uses event and decomposes the game. > Did you look at the code of the framework developed by damien cassou in > Java? I don't understand the second framework, it's entitled 'Teaching game framework', are there any class notes i can look at? The first framework has really cool graphics and seems to be quite powerful in it's expressiveness and to have a smooth GUI. I'll try to navigate a little through the code, if possible, to try to get some understanding about it's design, since i don't see any documentation on it on the web, perhaps inside the downloads. Do you consider first framework's example games to be board games? Mmmm, one could think there is a bigger board that is successively partially displayed when the character moves. You also asked 'Did you have game where characters are moving not block by block?'. When developing Boardician i thought, based on game list examples, the characteristic quality of a board game to be having a tiled board. I should explicitly state this constraint at the documentation. Display could show moving as a transition, but i case of adjacent places it doesn't seem to add much, does it? - Do you have the notion of command? Because you can easily implement an > undo/redo > based on the undo/redo framework of Pharo. > Once you have that you can also build demo. > BgBoxPush (#BPDirector) has implemented undo, it is on it's particular menu. While undoing isn't universally needed it seems useful to have it at framework level to deal with cases that do need it. > Missing features: > - Score, best score > - Pause > - Restart > (next and other) > - game description and help > > Pause and restart are already implemented at framework level, any BGPlayer can be paused/restarted, in particular BGDirector through menu (see menu entries). Score list and description menu entries should be added.

March 26, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] JavaLoader

by Julien Delplanque

Oh thanks I'll check this out! :) On 26/03/15 14:05, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > Hi Julien, > > You should have a look at the Moose platform: http://moosetechnology.org <http://moosetechnology.org/> > Moose is made exactly to analyze software, and has more then 15 years of engineering. Roassal is a component of Moose. > > To analyze some Java, you need a tool to translate your .java files into a big .mse file. MSE is a meta-model that is accepted by Moose. As far as I know, two tools are available for this: VerveineJ and inFamoos(? I cannot remember the exact name). > > VerveineJ is unfortunately not free. Ask directly in the Moose mailing list for this. > However, I have a copy of it. I can generate the .MSE file if you give me access to the Java code. > > Cheers, > Alexandre

March 26, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] JavaLoader

by Alexandre Bergel

Hi Blaine, Can you tell us more about it. What is the current stage of it? It looks like highly promising. But it is a significant task to reach a usable state I imagine. Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > On Mar 26, 2015, at 12:02 PM, Blaine Buxton <self(a)blainebuxton.com> wrote: > > Hello, > I'm the developer of that library. I have some tests that should shed some light. If you ned any help, just ping me. I try to keep it update with the latest Pharo releases. But, I haven't used it in a long time because I originally developed it to load in Java serialized streams and to read in Java class files. > > Let me know if you need anything. > > On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 8:39 AM, Julien Delplanque <julien(a)tamere.eu <mailto:julien@tamere.eu>> wrote: > Hi, > > I saw this repository on smalltalkhub: > http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~blabux/JavaLoader/ <http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~blabux/JavaLoader/> and I wonder if someone > could give me some examples of use. > > For example, is it possible to use JavaLoader with Roassal to display > class hierarchy of a java project or something like that? > > I browsed google and the mailing list's archives but didn't found any > doc/examples... Maybe I'm not searching in the right place? :) > > Thanks in advance, > > Julien > >

March 26, 2015

New Pharo-Launcher package for Mac and Windows

by Damien Cassou

Hi, I've just updated the 2 installers for mac and windows. http://files.pharo.org/platform/launcher/Pharo_0.2.4.dmg http://files.pharo.org/platform/launcher/pharo_installer-0.2.4.exe - the windows installer should have the PharoV30.sources file that was missing - both installers now install the most recent Pharo launcher -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm." --Winston Churchill

March 26, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] JavaLoader

by Julien Delplanque

Oh and just for you to know, some tests are red in pharo 4.

March 26, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] JavaLoader

by Julien Delplanque

Thanks for providing this lib :) Is it compatible with only a certain version of Java? On 26/03/15 16:02, Blaine Buxton wrote: > Hello, > I'm the developer of that library. I have some tests that should shed some > light. If you ned any help, just ping me. I try to keep it update with the > latest Pharo releases. But, I haven't used it in a long time because I > originally developed it to load in Java serialized streams and to read in > Java class files. > > Let me know if you need anything. > > On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 8:39 AM, Julien Delplanque <julien(a)tamere.eu> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I saw this repository on smalltalkhub: >> http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~blabux/JavaLoader/ and I wonder if someone >> could give me some examples of use. >> >> For example, is it possible to use JavaLoader with Roassal to display >> class hierarchy of a java project or something like that? >> >> I browsed google and the mailing list's archives but didn't found any >> doc/examples... Maybe I'm not searching in the right place? :) >> >> Thanks in advance, >> >> Julien >> >>

March 26, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] JavaLoader

by Blaine Buxton

Hello, I'm the developer of that library. I have some tests that should shed some light. If you ned any help, just ping me. I try to keep it update with the latest Pharo releases. But, I haven't used it in a long time because I originally developed it to load in Java serialized streams and to read in Java class files. Let me know if you need anything. On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 8:39 AM, Julien Delplanque <julien(a)tamere.eu> wrote: > Hi, > > I saw this repository on smalltalkhub: > http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~blabux/JavaLoader/ and I wonder if someone > could give me some examples of use. > > For example, is it possible to use JavaLoader with Roassal to display > class hierarchy of a java project or something like that? > > I browsed google and the mailing list's archives but didn't found any > doc/examples... Maybe I'm not searching in the right place? :) > > Thanks in advance, > > Julien > >

March 26, 2015