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Re: [Pharo-users] brick/bloc examples missing FILOStack

by PBKResearch

Maybe a FILOStack has lots of very thin layers? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filo) Best wishes Peter Kenny -----Original Message----- From: Pharo-users [mailto:pharo-users-bounces@lists.pharo.org] On Behalf Of Sven Van Caekenberghe Sent: 01 June 2015 08:13 To: Any question about pharo is welcome Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] brick/bloc examples missing FILOStack > On 01 Jun 2015, at 08:09, Peter UhnÃ¡k <i.uhnak(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Thanks, it seems to work now. I also had to switch to newly created "bloc" space. Why is that required? Why it wouldn't work also from "regular" Pharo space? > > >> FILOStack > > > Just wondering, isn't this a contradiction in terms ? > > A stack is by definition LIFO, a FILO structure is normally called a queue, no ? > > queue is FIFO (first in, first out) Right ;-) > FILO technically should be the same as LIFO, only I have never heard someone say it in that order (since the top of the stack is the important bit, not the bottom). Well, it was confusing ... > Peter > > On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 7:58 AM, Aliaksei Syrel <alex.syrel(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Should work now, just update using Doru's script :) > > Cheers, > Alex > > On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 7:49 AM, Aliaksei Syrel <alex.syrel(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > Oops, this kind of stack is from moose and not in pharo :) > > Yes, better to use a queue - thanks! > > Cheers, > Alex > > On Jun 1, 2015 7:32 AM, "Sven Van Caekenberghe" <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: > > > On 31 May 2015, at 23:15, Peter UhnÃ¡k <i.uhnak(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > FILOStack > > Just wondering, isn't this a contradiction in terms ? > A stack is by definition LIFO, a FILO structure is normally called a queue, no ? > >

June 1, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] brick/bloc examples missing FILOStack

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

> On 01 Jun 2015, at 08:09, Peter UhnÃ¡k <i.uhnak(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Thanks, it seems to work now. I also had to switch to newly created "bloc" space. Why is that required? Why it wouldn't work also from "regular" Pharo space? > > >> FILOStack > > > Just wondering, isn't this a contradiction in terms ? > > A stack is by definition LIFO, a FILO structure is normally called a queue, no ? > > queue is FIFO (first in, first out) Right ;-) > FILO technically should be the same as LIFO, only I have never heard someone say it in that order (since the top of the stack is the important bit, not the bottom). Well, it was confusing ... > Peter > > On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 7:58 AM, Aliaksei Syrel <alex.syrel(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Should work now, just update using Doru's script :) > > Cheers, > Alex > > On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 7:49 AM, Aliaksei Syrel <alex.syrel(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > Oops, this kind of stack is from moose and not in pharo :) > > Yes, better to use a queue - thanks! > > Cheers, > Alex > > On Jun 1, 2015 7:32 AM, "Sven Van Caekenberghe" <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: > > > On 31 May 2015, at 23:15, Peter UhnÃ¡k <i.uhnak(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > FILOStack > > Just wondering, isn't this a contradiction in terms ? > A stack is by definition LIFO, a FILO structure is normally called a queue, no ? > >

June 1, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] brick/bloc examples missing FILOStack

by stepharo

Bloc is a ***real*** Morph new kernel. Now we are lucky because it is powerful enough so that we can render morphic morph inside itself. But Bloc has a new architecture rendering, event loop, and many more. Stef Le 1/6/15 08:09, Peter UhnÃ¡k a Ã©crit : > Thanks, it seems to work now. I also had to switch to newly created > "bloc" space. Why is that required? Why it wouldn't work also from > "regular" Pharo space? > > >> FILOStack > > > Just wondering, isn't this a contradiction in terms ? > > A stack is by definition LIFO, a FILO structure is normally called a queue, no ? > > queue is FIFO (first in, first out) > FILO technically should be the same as LIFO, only I have never heard > someone say it in that order (since the top of the stack is the > important bit, not the bottom). > > Peter > > On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 7:58 AM, Aliaksei Syrel <alex.syrel(a)gmail.com > <mailto:alex.syrel@gmail.com>> wrote: > > Should work now, just update using Doru's script :) > > Cheers, > Alex > > On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 7:49 AM, Aliaksei Syrel > <alex.syrel(a)gmail.com <mailto:alex.syrel@gmail.com>> wrote: > > Hi, > > Oops, this kind of stack is from moose and not in pharo :) > > Yes, better to use a queue - thanks! > > Cheers, > Alex > > On Jun 1, 2015 7:32 AM, "Sven Van Caekenberghe" <sven(a)stfx.eu > <mailto:sven@stfx.eu>> wrote: > > > > On 31 May 2015, at 23:15, Peter UhnÃ¡k <i.uhnak(a)gmail.com > <mailto:i.uhnak@gmail.com>> wrote: > > > > FILOStack > > Just wondering, isn't this a contradiction in terms ? > A stack is by definition LIFO, a FILO structure is > normally called a queue, no ? > > >

June 1, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] brick/bloc examples missing FILOStack

by Aliaksei Syrel

On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 8:09 AM, Peter UhnÃ¡k <i.uhnak(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks, it seems to work now. I also had to switch to newly created "bloc" > space. Why is that required? Why it wouldn't work also from "regular" Pharo > space? Because it's Bloc, a complete replacement for morphic - with its own spaces/managers/event fetcher and everything else. Also, it's complete vector based :) Alain Plantec will present it at ESUG, I suppose. Cheers, Alex

June 1, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] brick/bloc examples missing FILOStack

by Peter UhnÃ¡k

Thanks, it seems to work now. I also had to switch to newly created "bloc" space. Why is that required? Why it wouldn't work also from "regular" Pharo space? >> FILOStack > Just wondering, isn't this a contradiction in terms ? > A stack is by definition LIFO, a FILO structure is normally called a queue, no ? queue is FIFO (first in, first out) FILO technically should be the same as LIFO, only I have never heard someone say it in that order (since the top of the stack is the important bit, not the bottom). Peter On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 7:58 AM, Aliaksei Syrel <alex.syrel(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Should work now, just update using Doru's script :) > > Cheers, > Alex > > On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 7:49 AM, Aliaksei Syrel <alex.syrel(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Oops, this kind of stack is from moose and not in pharo :) >> >> Yes, better to use a queue - thanks! >> >> Cheers, >> Alex >> On Jun 1, 2015 7:32 AM, "Sven Van Caekenberghe" <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: >> >>> >>> > On 31 May 2015, at 23:15, Peter UhnÃ¡k <i.uhnak(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> > >>> > FILOStack >>> >>> Just wondering, isn't this a contradiction in terms ? >>> A stack is by definition LIFO, a FILO structure is normally called a >>> queue, no ? >>> >> >

June 1, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] brick/bloc examples missing FILOStack

by Aliaksei Syrel

Should work now, just update using Doru's script :) Cheers, Alex On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 7:49 AM, Aliaksei Syrel <alex.syrel(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > Oops, this kind of stack is from moose and not in pharo :) > > Yes, better to use a queue - thanks! > > Cheers, > Alex > On Jun 1, 2015 7:32 AM, "Sven Van Caekenberghe" <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: > >> >> > On 31 May 2015, at 23:15, Peter UhnÃ¡k <i.uhnak(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > FILOStack >> >> Just wondering, isn't this a contradiction in terms ? >> A stack is by definition LIFO, a FILO structure is normally called a >> queue, no ? >> >

June 1, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] brick/bloc examples missing FILOStack

by Aliaksei Syrel

Hi, Oops, this kind of stack is from moose and not in pharo :) Yes, better to use a queue - thanks! Cheers, Alex On Jun 1, 2015 7:32 AM, "Sven Van Caekenberghe" <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: > > > On 31 May 2015, at 23:15, Peter UhnÃ¡k <i.uhnak(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > FILOStack > > Just wondering, isn't this a contradiction in terms ? > A stack is by definition LIFO, a FILO structure is normally called a > queue, no ? >

June 1, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] brick/bloc examples missing FILOStack

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

> On 31 May 2015, at 23:15, Peter UhnÃ¡k <i.uhnak(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > FILOStack Just wondering, isn't this a contradiction in terms ? A stack is by definition LIFO, a FILO structure is normally called a queue, no ?

June 1, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] brick/bloc examples missing FILOStack

by Tudor Girba

I think this should do it: Gofer it smalltalkhubUser: 'Pharo' project: 'Bloc'; configurationOf: 'Bloc'; loadDevelopment. Gofer new smalltalkhubUser: 'Pharo' project: 'Brick'; package: 'Brick-Core'; package: 'Brick-Scrollpane'; package: 'Brick-List'; load. ConfigurationOfTxText loadDevelopment. Cheers, Doru On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 11:15 PM, Peter UhnÃ¡k <i.uhnak(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > I wanted to try new brick/bloc thing > https://pharoweekly.wordpress.com/2015/05/30/future-new-widget-sets-is-comi… > > however after loading (in Pharo 5.0) it is complaining about > missing FILOStack (in BlBrickLayouter>>initialize) > > What should I load? > > Thanks, > Peter > -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"

June 1, 2015

brick/bloc examples missing FILOStack

by Peter UhnÃ¡k

Hi, I wanted to try new brick/bloc thing https://pharoweekly.wordpress.com/2015/05/30/future-new-widget-sets-is-comi… however after loading (in Pharo 5.0) it is complaining about missing FILOStack (in BlBrickLayouter>>initialize) What should I load? Thanks, Peter

May 31, 2015