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Re: [Pharo-users] GL inspector, editing attribute

by Esteban Lorenzano

> On 16 Jul 2015, at 09:25, Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess(a)web.de> wrote: > > If you want to change an attribute of a "subelement" in the tree - this does not work. > only the attributes of the top/root node can be changed that way. > > As I understand the comments in this issue, this will not be changed. > 14584 <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?14584> > GTInspector: explore only Actually, what Doru says is that it will not be changed in current implementation because they are working in a complete new implementation (based on Brick and some other stuff they want to include). Which means it will be tackled, but with next iteration of the tool :) â¦ and yes, I find too that Doru assumes everybody understand/knows they are working on a new tool, and then he does not provide enough informationâ¦ happens time to time :S Esteban > > > 2015-07-16 5:38 GMT+02:00 Hilaire <hilaire(a)drgeo.eu <mailto:hilaire@drgeo.eu>>: > Le 16/07/2015 03:53, Tudor Girba a Ã©crit : > > Could you describe what you do and perhaps add screeshots? > > > See screenshot. > > Btw, from the palyground, when I print a value and want to browse the > printed class, how can I do it? Selecting the class and Alt/Ctrl-b does > not work (capture2) > > Hilaire > > -- > Dr. Geo > http://drgeo.eu <http://drgeo.eu/> > http://google.com/+DrgeoEu <http://google.com/+DrgeoEu> > >

July 16, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] GL inspector, editing attribute

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

> On 16 Jul 2015, at 05:38, Hilaire <hilaire(a)drgeo.eu> wrote: > > Btw, from the palyground, when I print a value and want to browse the > printed class, how can I do it? Selecting the class and Alt/Ctrl-b does > not work (capture2) Normally you should be able to do command-click on class and selector names, that works on Mac anyway. It was broken for a while in Pharo 5 but it seems to be fixed now. But if command-b fails too, then there might be another problem.

July 16, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] GL inspector, editing attribute

by Nicolai Hess

If you want to change an attribute of a "subelement" in the tree - this does not work. only the attributes of the top/root node can be changed that way. As I understand the comments in this issue, this will not be changed. 14584 <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?14584> GTInspector: explore only 2015-07-16 5:38 GMT+02:00 Hilaire <hilaire(a)drgeo.eu>: > Le 16/07/2015 03:53, Tudor Girba a Ã©crit : > > Could you describe what you do and perhaps add screeshots? > > > See screenshot. > > Btw, from the palyground, when I print a value and want to browse the > printed class, how can I do it? Selecting the class and Alt/Ctrl-b does > not work (capture2) > > Hilaire > > -- > Dr. Geo > http://drgeo.eu > http://google.com/+DrgeoEu > >

July 16, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Openstreetmap on Pharo

by Thierry Goubier

Le 16/07/2015 03:59, Hilaire a Ã©crit : > Hi Thierry, > > This is what I did, I pick up latest Moose, and play a bit. It is nice > indeed. > > A few remarks > - loading the tiles is slow, does it comes from me? I am right on the > local tile server in Hsinchu.. I am not sure the right tile server is > used. a.tile.openstreetmap.org Do you need a dedicated tile server or the generic ones? We had an issue trying to accelerate tile loading when improving that part during PharoDays. I'll have a look at Moose to see which version of Roassal you are dealing with. > - the graphic quality is not optimal, blurred RTOSM interpolates between tiles zoom levels to gives you more freedom when zooming; this may comes with a slightly degraded image quality. Unless it is heavily blurred in which case it is something else. A screenshot? > - I have a hard time to find live programming (in fact I failed): trying > to get on an inspector was not obvious, then I don't know what I can do > to modify the model and its view This is more a Moose problem then. > - one RTOSM example fails because of fuel version There is a problem with the version of Roassal you are using. I remember correcting that a while ago. > - examples #exampleSeismOnEarthLive #exampleSeismOnEarthLiveZoom fail also. Yes, the links used to download the data (from the usgs if I remember correctly) have changed recently; there was a discussion on the mailing list not long ago (on pharo-dev or moose-dev); I don't know in which version of Roassal this was corrected. Thierry > > Thanks for the tips > > Hilaire > > Le 16/07/2015 02:28, Thierry Goubier a Ã©crit : >> Hi Hilaire, >> >> OSM tiles support was added to Roassal, and demonstrated in two videos >> [1][2]. The context of the work was presented at FOSDEM [3]. >> >> In the pillarhub document, I demonstrated how to query the raw OSM >> data; we made sure that the tile support and georeferenced data could >> go on the same level, and be precise to the pixel to the underlying >> tile rendering. >> >> I'm sure all this works in Pharo4, just try the RTOSM examples! There >> is probably a way to make it interactive with data downloading and a >> playground, using the sample code present in the pillarhub document. >> >> [2] is a bit different, it uses a sensor network design tool and >> simulateur which requires VisualWorks, Occam and/or a Cuda GPU :). But >> it makes for an interesting demo / talk if it is your field, just >> contact Onil. >> >> Thierry >> >> [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zoGIsQaGUo >> [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMB7DG-lbiU >> [3] https://archive.fosdem.org/2015/schedule/event/cirela/ >> >> >> Le 15/07/2015 19:16, Hilaire a Ã©crit : >>> Hi, >>> >>> In a few weeks I will give a speech in Taiwan at NCHC[1] about Pharo, my >>> intend is to present release 4. I already did speeches there in the past >>> about Pharo, but I have a hard time to raise interest to the point >>> people want to jump in. >>> But I hope to have an angle this time because NCHC recently offers a >>> server and the hosting for an openstreetmap tile server (the first in >>> Asia by the way), and there is high interest here in Taiwan about OSM >>> related stuff. >>> >>> I read here, job has been done with Roassal and OSM, but it is not clear >>> for me how to get in using OSM within Pharo. I am particularly >>> interested in providing an interactive demo where live programming shows >>> its value. >>> >>> I have found these pointers bellow. I am interested by any additional >>> tips and url, and particularly the compatibility with Pharo4. >>> >>> https://github.com/fstephany/OSMMaps >>> http://pillarhub.pharocloud.com/hub/ThierryGoubier/5y08m9uu71o8i7a35ijwr766p >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Hilaire >>> >>> >>> [1] >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Center_for_High-Performance_Computing >>> >>> >> >> >> > >

July 16, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] GL inspector, editing attribute

by Hilaire

Le 16/07/2015 03:53, Tudor Girba a Ã©crit : > Could you describe what you do and perhaps add screeshots? > See screenshot. Btw, from the palyground, when I print a value and want to browse the printed class, how can I do it? Selecting the class and Alt/Ctrl-b does not work (capture2) Hilaire -- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu http://google.com/+DrgeoEu

July 16, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] GL inspector, editing attribute

by Hilaire

Sorry, I don't have Cmd key on my keyboard. Thanks Hilaire Le 16/07/2015 03:53, Tudor Girba a Ã©crit : > I guess you mean GT Inspector, right? > > In that case, both Enter and Cmd+s should work. > > Could you describe what you do and perhaps add screeshots? > > Cheers, > Doru > > > > On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 8:12 PM, Hilaire > <hilaire(a)drgeo.eu > <mailto:hilaire@drgeo.eu>> wrote: > > Hello, > > From a GL inspector, how am I supposed to change the value of an > attribute. When I double click on its value, I have a in place editor, > but changing and validating with Enter or Alt-s does not work. > > Thanks > > Hilaire > > -- > Dr. Geo > http://drgeo.eu > http://google.com/+DrgeoEu > > > > > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com <http://www.tudorgirba.com> > > "Every thing has its own flow" -- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu http://google.com/+DrgeoEu

July 16, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Openstreetmap on Pharo

by Hilaire

Hi Thierry, This is what I did, I pick up latest Moose, and play a bit. It is nice indeed. A few remarks - loading the tiles is slow, does it comes from me? I am right on the local tile server in Hsinchu.. I am not sure the right tile server is used. a.tile.openstreetmap.org - the graphic quality is not optimal, blurred - I have a hard time to find live programming (in fact I failed): trying to get on an inspector was not obvious, then I don't know what I can do to modify the model and its view - one RTOSM example fails because of fuel version - examples #exampleSeismOnEarthLive #exampleSeismOnEarthLiveZoom fail also. Thanks for the tips Hilaire Le 16/07/2015 02:28, Thierry Goubier a Ã©crit : > Hi Hilaire, > > OSM tiles support was added to Roassal, and demonstrated in two videos > [1][2]. The context of the work was presented at FOSDEM [3]. > > In the pillarhub document, I demonstrated how to query the raw OSM > data; we made sure that the tile support and georeferenced data could > go on the same level, and be precise to the pixel to the underlying > tile rendering. > > I'm sure all this works in Pharo4, just try the RTOSM examples! There > is probably a way to make it interactive with data downloading and a > playground, using the sample code present in the pillarhub document. > > [2] is a bit different, it uses a sensor network design tool and > simulateur which requires VisualWorks, Occam and/or a Cuda GPU :). But > it makes for an interesting demo / talk if it is your field, just > contact Onil. > > Thierry > > [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zoGIsQaGUo > [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMB7DG-lbiU > [3] https://archive.fosdem.org/2015/schedule/event/cirela/ > > > Le 15/07/2015 19:16, Hilaire a Ã©crit : >> Hi, >> >> In a few weeks I will give a speech in Taiwan at NCHC[1] about Pharo, my >> intend is to present release 4. I already did speeches there in the past >> about Pharo, but I have a hard time to raise interest to the point >> people want to jump in. >> But I hope to have an angle this time because NCHC recently offers a >> server and the hosting for an openstreetmap tile server (the first in >> Asia by the way), and there is high interest here in Taiwan about OSM >> related stuff. >> >> I read here, job has been done with Roassal and OSM, but it is not clear >> for me how to get in using OSM within Pharo. I am particularly >> interested in providing an interactive demo where live programming shows >> its value. >> >> I have found these pointers bellow. I am interested by any additional >> tips and url, and particularly the compatibility with Pharo4. >> >> https://github.com/fstephany/OSMMaps >> http://pillarhub.pharocloud.com/hub/ThierryGoubier/5y08m9uu71o8i7a35ijwr766p >> >> >> >> >> Thanks >> >> Hilaire >> >> >> [1] >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Center_for_High-Performance_Computing >> >> > > > -- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu http://google.com/+DrgeoEu

July 16, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Openstreetmap on Pharo

by Stephan Eggermont

Easiest way to get started is to download a recent moose image and look at the roassal examples using OSM. From the FOSDEM demo we know that when you want to do a live demonstration you either have to be very sure you do not use a shared medium like wifi for the network, or that the tile data comes from a caching proxy on the demonstration machine. Stephan

July 16, 2015

Pharo Success story - MultiCity

by Torsten Bergmann

Another story from 2Denker is up: http://pharo.org/success/MultiCity Client seems to be done using Amber when I check the login page which was styled with Bootstrap. Server in Pharo with Nginx. I guess you use Mongo as DB (with Voyage or without). @Norbert/@Marcus: if possible can you share with us a few more technical details about the technologies/stack used. Also about size (LOC, users, nr of images) and pitfalls ... There is always something one can learn from the experience of others.

July 15, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] GL inspector, editing attribute

by Tudor Girba

I guess you mean GT Inspector, right? In that case, both Enter and Cmd+s should work. Could you describe what you do and perhaps add screeshots? Cheers, Doru On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 8:12 PM, Hilaire <hilaire(a)drgeo.eu> wrote: > Hello, > > From a GL inspector, how am I supposed to change the value of an > attribute. When I double click on its value, I have a in place editor, > but changing and validating with Enter or Alt-s does not work. > > Thanks > > Hilaire > > -- > Dr. Geo > http://drgeo.eu > http://google.com/+DrgeoEu > > > > -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"

July 15, 2015