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Re: [Pharo-users] touch screens

by Stephan Eggermont

On 16/11/15 09:06, stepharo wrote: > Yes it works. Look at the thales videos > Now it is available for Pharo50. > Now we need people to have a look and let us know. The SDL2TUIOTouchExample seems to need an improvement in the event handling for window closing. It crashes the image. Stephan

Nov. 16, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] touch screens

by jannik laval

Thank you Stef, I hope to have a look soon. Jannik 2015-11-16 9:06 GMT+01:00 stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr>: > Hi jannik > > Yes it works. Look at the thales videos > Now it is available for Pharo50. > Now we need people to have a look and let us know. > > Stef > > > > Le 15/11/15 20:45, jannik laval a Ã©crit : > >> Hi Ralph, >> >> I don't know if the touch screen works. I remember that there are guys >> working on it but not sure about the progress. >> pharo mailing list is in copy. Someone could answer you. >> >> Best regards, >> Jannik >> >> 2015-11-13 5:04 GMT+01:00 Ralph Boland <rpboland(a)gmail.com>: >>> >>> From: Ralph Boland <rpboland(a)gmail.com> >>> Subject: touch screens >>> >>> Message Body: >>> I am wondering if there are plans to make phratch (and I guess pharo >>> also) work with touch screens. >>> >>> Ralph Boland >>> >>> -- >>> This e-mail was sent from a contact form on Phratch >>> (http://www.phratch.com) >>> >> >> > > -- ~~Jannik Laval~~ Enseignant-chercheur IUT LumiÃ¨re, UniversitÃ© Lyon LumiÃ¨re laboratoire DISP http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://www.phratch.com http://www.approchealpes.info

Nov. 16, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] typers in Pharo

by Henrik Johansen

I don't know why, but return typing seems explicitly disabled in Pharo for RoelTyper. Add the extraction in: PharoInstVarInterfaceExtractor >> #methodReturnTop collector addAssignmentForReturn: stack last. ^self pop and it seems to work for me at least. The dictionary access failure is a bug in packagedResultsForCompiledMethod: , since the results are kept in an IdentityDictionary, we need to use as keys symbols, not strings, if we later want to fetch them using literals: packagedResultsForCompiledMethod: aCompiledMethod | results arr tmpNames| results := IdentityDictionary new. arr := (localTypingResults at: aCompiledMethod). tmpNames := [aCompiledMethod methodNode tempNames] on: Error do: [aCompiledMethod tempNames]. 1 to: arr size - 1 do: [:i | results at: (tmpNames at: i) put: (arr at: i)]. results at: #'^' put: (arr last). ^results Cheers, Henry > On 15 Nov 2015, at 11:16 , Peter UhnÃ¡k <i.uhnak(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > apparently neither RoelTyper nor RefactoryTyper is capable of doing elementary type inference for methods, such as > > [[[ > cls := Object subclass: #Something. > cls compile: 'method ^ 1'. > typer := RBRefactoryTyper new. > typer guessTypeFromAssignment: (Something>>#method) ast body "Object > " > all := (TypeCollector typeTmpsIn: (Something>>#method) ofClass: Something) asDictionary. > (all at: '^') types "an OrderedCollection(Object)" > ]]] > > Of course both of those tools have different objectives so I am not surprised. > > Are there however other options? Roel Typer paper makes mention of Chuck, but that seems to be for Squeak only. > > As for RoelTyper I've also encountered very strange behavior: > [[[ > cls := Object subclass: #Something. > cls compile: 'method ^ 1'. > all := TypeCollector typeTmpsIn: (Something>>#method) ofClass: Something. > > all at: '^' ifAbsent: [ 'Not Found' ]. "'Not Found'" > > all asDictionary at: '^' "ExtractedType: Sends: {} > Assignments: {} > ". > > all associations detect: [ :pair | pair key = '^' ] "'^'->ExtractedType: Sends: {} > Assignments: {} > " > ]]] > > Why does the first #at: fail if the second and especially third succeeds? My debugging lead me to IdentityDictionary>>#scanFor: but I don't know why that method is written in such a way so I stopped there. > > Thanks, > Peter

Nov. 16, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] touch screens

by stepharo

Hi jannik Yes it works. Look at the thales videos Now it is available for Pharo50. Now we need people to have a look and let us know. Stef Le 15/11/15 20:45, jannik laval a Ã©crit : > Hi Ralph, > > I don't know if the touch screen works. I remember that there are guys > working on it but not sure about the progress. > pharo mailing list is in copy. Someone could answer you. > > Best regards, > Jannik > > 2015-11-13 5:04 GMT+01:00 Ralph Boland <rpboland(a)gmail.com>: >> From: Ralph Boland <rpboland(a)gmail.com> >> Subject: touch screens >> >> Message Body: >> I am wondering if there are plans to make phratch (and I guess pharo also) work with touch screens. >> >> Ralph Boland >> >> -- >> This e-mail was sent from a contact form on Phratch (http://www.phratch.com) >> > >

Nov. 16, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] touch screens

by jannik laval

Hi Ralph, I don't know if the touch screen works. I remember that there are guys working on it but not sure about the progress. pharo mailing list is in copy. Someone could answer you. Best regards, Jannik 2015-11-13 5:04 GMT+01:00 Ralph Boland <rpboland(a)gmail.com>: > From: Ralph Boland <rpboland(a)gmail.com> > Subject: touch screens > > Message Body: > I am wondering if there are plans to make phratch (and I guess pharo also) work with touch screens. > > Ralph Boland > > -- > This e-mail was sent from a contact form on Phratch (http://www.phratch.com) > -- ~~Jannik Laval~~ Enseignant-chercheur IUT LumiÃ¨re, UniversitÃ© Lyon LumiÃ¨re laboratoire DISP http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://www.phratch.com http://www.approchealpes.info

Nov. 15, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Very sad day for the world

by abdelghani ALIDRA

I more or less agree with you Robert.It partially relies on Muslims to fight against those terrorists. This is exactly what we did in Algeria in the 90's and today this is still happening in Syria, Iraq and Saudi Arabia. But unfortunately they are moving their battlefield to the rest of the world. Imams are notÂ infallible, but the common sense of people is and I believe it should be trusted. Abdelghani Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2015 11:19:43 -0500 From: Robert Withers <robert.w.withers(a)gmail.com> To: pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] Very sad day for the world Message-ID: <5648B09F.8010608(a)gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" It is so very sad. Sad that it was done and sad that it can be done. There is no real way to stop them or it would end our open societies. They must decide not to kill innocent people. The only ones who can get them to decide that is complete, global and total condemnation from the Ummah. Unfortunately, there are high numbers of Imams who issue Fatwas in support. And the majority of the Ummah are too scared to object. For instance, a top Jordanian Salafi Sheikh stated it was permissible to kill Israeli women and children. Oh, really? If we can't trust Imams to promote non-violence and the Ummah is required to step up, it all rests on the Mu'minoon picking up weapons against these Quranic terrorists and actively sending these Munafiqoon to Jahannam. Peace to Paris, Robert On 11/15/2015 04:23 AM, abdelghani ALIDRA wrote: > > Indeed, This is a very sad day. > I sincerly sympathize with people of France. > In Algeria, we have known such barbarian actions in the 90's (and much > more unfortunately, may you be preserved) > But today we got rid of it. And I hope France will do too. In fact, I > am quite sure it will. > > I finaly would like to say that those sick people do not represent us. > They are stupid ignorants and we muslims, have been their first > victims in Algeria, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan ... and > unfortunately, as Stef said, their evil will expand everywhere if > nothing is done to stop them. > > > > Abdelghani > > > Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2015 08:13:32 +0100 > From: stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr <mailto:stepharo@free.fr>> > To: Pharo Development List <pharo-dev(a)lists.pharo.org>, Any question >Â Â about pharo is welcome <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> > Subject: [Pharo-users] Democracy attacked... > Message-ID: <5646DF1C.5030103(a)free.fr <mailto:5646DF1C.5030103@free.fr>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Hi guys > > I just want to let you that France got attacked by kamizazes probably > from these fanatics > ruining syria and we are touched. 120 people killed: they attacked a > rock concert and > restaurants in the street in Paris. They killed people randomly and as > birds. > I hope that such attacks will not happen in your country but if we do > not do anything > I doubt it will not expand. > > And sadly this is just the beginning because this is a terrible war in > fact. Democracy and > our model are threatened and I hope our countries will realize that we > have to react. > > Stef > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2015 08:21:26 +0100 > From: stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr <mailto:stepharo@free.fr>> > To: Any question about pharo is welcome <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> > Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] Very sad day for the world > Message-ID: <5646E0F6.8060007(a)free.fr <mailto:5646E0F6.8060007@free.fr>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Thanks I just woke up and heard these terrible news. > To me when a human believes that another one is not worth more than a > dog and we can kill it for free, we cannot > expect much. > > I really hope that people will not vote for extreme right because it > would be terrible in addition. > Now I hope that our goverment will have a really strong reaction. > And the problem with democracy is that it is mild in general but in fact > this is a war. > When you imagine that in France an imam is able to say that if kids > listen music they will go to hell. > > > I'm really happy that France got in africa fighting against people that > can destroy the oldest libraries > because else we would have even more trouble because we are at two hours > from algeria, marocco. > Now we pay the price and it will continue. > > Stef > > Le 14/11/15 06:08, Hern?n Morales Durand a ?crit : > > Cannot believe what happened in Paris. I am really sad and frightened > > about the future of human kind. > > > > Love and strength to the people in Paris and all of France. > > > > Hern?n > > > > > >

Nov. 15, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Very sad day for the world

by HernÃ¡n Morales Durand

Once I read a quote but it wasn't until today I researched it was written by SÃ©bastien ChÃ¢teillon, a french theologian and humanist: "To kill a man to uphold an idea, is not upholding an idea. It s killing a man." May we never forget those words. HernÃ¡n 2015-11-15 14:00 GMT-03:00 Robert Shiplett <grshiplett(a)gmail.com>: > pour la transition et NON aux terroristes ! > > On 14 November 2015 at 15:01, phil(a)highoctane.be <phil(a)highoctane.be> > wrote: > >> These guys are clinging to a model of the past instead of making the >> necessary changes to deal with the modernity transition challenge. >> >> China transitioned, India transitioned, South Asia transitioned. They >> aren't. >> >> France has been directly involved in Lybia, Syria, and Mali to fight they >> archaic model. France is all they hate. And all we love. Freedom, fun, >> curiosity, questioning, science, progress. >> >> We should have crushed them in Syria already. >> >> Check this out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usJm4C_XZtA for an >> indepth geostrategic view (french). >> >> I am sad. But at the same time my resolve is stronger than ever. We need >> to stand for our values. >> >> Phil >> >> >> On Sat, Nov 14, 2015 at 2:18 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> >> wrote: >> >>> My mind stopped for a while when I heard what happened. The way in which >>> it happened made me inevitably wonder about the kindness of human kind. >>> Itâs a sad feeling even from afar and I cannot imagine what people that are >>> closer to the event might feel. >>> >>> I wish you all strength to go through this and wisdom to go beyond it. >>> >>> Doru >>> >>> >>> > On Nov 14, 2015, at 6:08 AM, HernÃ¡n Morales Durand < >>> hernan.morales(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> > >>> > Cannot believe what happened in Paris. I am really sad and frightened >>> about the future of human kind. >>> > >>> > Love and strength to the people in Paris and all of France. >>> > >>> > HernÃ¡n >>> > >>> >>> -- >>> www.tudorgirba.com >>> >>> "Obvious things are difficult to teach." >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >

Nov. 15, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Very sad day for the world

by Robert Shiplett

pour la transition et NON aux terroristes ! On 14 November 2015 at 15:01, phil(a)highoctane.be <phil(a)highoctane.be> wrote: > These guys are clinging to a model of the past instead of making the > necessary changes to deal with the modernity transition challenge. > > China transitioned, India transitioned, South Asia transitioned. They > aren't. > > France has been directly involved in Lybia, Syria, and Mali to fight they > archaic model. France is all they hate. And all we love. Freedom, fun, > curiosity, questioning, science, progress. > > We should have crushed them in Syria already. > > Check this out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usJm4C_XZtA for an indepth > geostrategic view (french). > > I am sad. But at the same time my resolve is stronger than ever. We need > to stand for our values. > > Phil > > > On Sat, Nov 14, 2015 at 2:18 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: > >> My mind stopped for a while when I heard what happened. The way in which >> it happened made me inevitably wonder about the kindness of human kind. >> Itâs a sad feeling even from afar and I cannot imagine what people that are >> closer to the event might feel. >> >> I wish you all strength to go through this and wisdom to go beyond it. >> >> Doru >> >> >> > On Nov 14, 2015, at 6:08 AM, HernÃ¡n Morales Durand < >> hernan.morales(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > Cannot believe what happened in Paris. I am really sad and frightened >> about the future of human kind. >> > >> > Love and strength to the people in Paris and all of France. >> > >> > HernÃ¡n >> > >> >> -- >> www.tudorgirba.com >> >> "Obvious things are difficult to teach." >> >> >> >> >> >> >

Nov. 15, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Very sad day for the world

by Robert Withers

It is so very sad. Sad that it was done and sad that it can be done. There is no real way to stop them or it would end our open societies. They must decide not to kill innocent people. The only ones who can get them to decide that is complete, global and total condemnation from the Ummah. Unfortunately, there are high numbers of Imams who issue Fatwas in support. And the majority of the Ummah are too scared to object. For instance, a top Jordanian Salafi Sheikh stated it was permissible to kill Israeli women and children. Oh, really? If we can't trust Imams to promote non-violence and the Ummah is required to step up, it all rests on the Mu'minoon picking up weapons against these Quranic terrorists and actively sending these Munafiqoon to Jahannam. Peace to Paris, Robert On 11/15/2015 04:23 AM, abdelghani ALIDRA wrote: > > Indeed, This is a very sad day. > I sincerly sympathize with people of France. > In Algeria, we have known such barbarian actions in the 90's (and much > more unfortunately, may you be preserved) > But today we got rid of it. And I hope France will do too. In fact, I > am quite sure it will. > > I finaly would like to say that those sick people do not represent us. > They are stupid ignorants and we muslims, have been their first > victims in Algeria, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan ... and > unfortunately, as Stef said, their evil will expand everywhere if > nothing is done to stop them. > > > > Abdelghani > > > Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2015 08:13:32 +0100 > From: stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr <mailto:stepharo@free.fr>> > To: Pharo Development List <pharo-dev(a)lists.pharo.org>, Any question > about pharo is welcome <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> > Subject: [Pharo-users] Democracy attacked... > Message-ID: <5646DF1C.5030103(a)free.fr <mailto:5646DF1C.5030103@free.fr>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Hi guys > > I just want to let you that France got attacked by kamizazes probably > from these fanatics > ruining syria and we are touched. 120 people killed: they attacked a > rock concert and > restaurants in the street in Paris. They killed people randomly and as > birds. > I hope that such attacks will not happen in your country but if we do > not do anything > I doubt it will not expand. > > And sadly this is just the beginning because this is a terrible war in > fact. Democracy and > our model are threatened and I hope our countries will realize that we > have to react. > > Stef > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2015 08:21:26 +0100 > From: stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr <mailto:stepharo@free.fr>> > To: Any question about pharo is welcome <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> > Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] Very sad day for the world > Message-ID: <5646E0F6.8060007(a)free.fr <mailto:5646E0F6.8060007@free.fr>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Thanks I just woke up and heard these terrible news. > To me when a human believes that another one is not worth more than a > dog and we can kill it for free, we cannot > expect much. > > I really hope that people will not vote for extreme right because it > would be terrible in addition. > Now I hope that our goverment will have a really strong reaction. > And the problem with democracy is that it is mild in general but in fact > this is a war. > When you imagine that in France an imam is able to say that if kids > listen music they will go to hell. > > > I'm really happy that France got in africa fighting against people that > can destroy the oldest libraries > because else we would have even more trouble because we are at two hours > from algeria, marocco. > Now we pay the price and it will continue. > > Stef > > Le 14/11/15 06:08, Hern?n Morales Durand a ?crit : > > Cannot believe what happened in Paris. I am really sad and frightened > > about the future of human kind. > > > > Love and strength to the people in Paris and all of France. > > > > Hern?n > > > > > >

Nov. 15, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Very sad day for the world

by Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas

Hi, In Colombia we had very violent and bad times at the 80's and that bad press endures until today, even despite of being a country full of wonderful people and places. And yes, I think that we need to make something. It's curious because programming tries to remain abstract but programmers are concrete people with countries, families, ties. I'm trying an alternative approach that binds programming to the reality by not starting with the sad/uninteresting "hello world examples", but with making sense of a complex human world by using data. Usually that means scraping data, think of it as a political construction instead of a "neutral" one and a critical approaches to problems. I'm not saying this is some kind of "solution", but another place to start thinking in how our everyday programming language and environment can help to build democracy and understanding by education, instead of being co-opted by the language of war. With solidarity, Offray On 15/11/15 04:23, abdelghani ALIDRA wrote: > > Indeed, This is a very sad day. > I sincerly sympathize with people of France. > In Algeria, we have known such barbarian actions in the 90's (and much > more unfortunately, may you be preserved) > But today we got rid of it. And I hope France will do too. In fact, I > am quite sure it will. > > I finaly would like to say that those sick people do not represent us. > They are stupid ignorants and we muslims, have been their first > victims in Algeria, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan ... and > unfortunately, as Stef said, their evil will expand everywhere if > nothing is done to stop them. > > > > Abdelghani > > > Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2015 08:13:32 +0100 > From: stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr <mailto:stepharo@free.fr>> > To: Pharo Development List <pharo-dev(a)lists.pharo.org > <mailto:pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org>>, Any question > about pharo is welcome <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org > <mailto:pharo-users@lists.pharo.org>> > Subject: [Pharo-users] Democracy attacked... > Message-ID: <5646DF1C.5030103(a)free.fr <mailto:5646DF1C.5030103@free.fr>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Hi guys > > I just want to let you that France got attacked by kamizazes probably > from these fanatics > ruining syria and we are touched. 120 people killed: they attacked a > rock concert and > restaurants in the street in Paris. They killed people randomly and as > birds. > I hope that such attacks will not happen in your country but if we do > not do anything > I doubt it will not expand. > > And sadly this is just the beginning because this is a terrible war in > fact. Democracy and > our model are threatened and I hope our countries will realize that we > have to react. > > Stef > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2015 08:21:26 +0100 > From: stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr <mailto:stepharo@free.fr>> > To: Any question about pharo is welcome <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org > <mailto:pharo-users@lists.pharo.org>> > Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] Very sad day for the world > Message-ID: <5646E0F6.8060007(a)free.fr <mailto:5646E0F6.8060007@free.fr>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Thanks I just woke up and heard these terrible news. > To me when a human believes that another one is not worth more than a > dog and we can kill it for free, we cannot > expect much. > > I really hope that people will not vote for extreme right because it > would be terrible in addition. > Now I hope that our goverment will have a really strong reaction. > And the problem with democracy is that it is mild in general but in fact > this is a war. > When you imagine that in France an imam is able to say that if kids > listen music they will go to hell. > > > I'm really happy that France got in africa fighting against people that > can destroy the oldest libraries > because else we would have even more trouble because we are at two hours > from algeria, marocco. > Now we pay the price and it will continue. > > Stef > > Le 14/11/15 06:08, Hern?n Morales Durand a ?crit : > > Cannot believe what happened in Paris. I am really sad and frightened > > about the future of human kind. > > > > Love and strength to the people in Paris and all of France. > > > > Hern?n > > > > > >

Nov. 15, 2015