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Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] breakpoints and watchpoints working

by Mariano Martinez Peck

Hi Johan, I just gave it a try and it's super awesome (mostly the watchpoints). No need to halt + inspect anymore :) Pharo 5.0 looks sooooo cool!! On Fri, Nov 27, 2015 at 5:03 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: > This is really great news. > > Thanks a lot to all of you for working together on this and for working on > it persistently for such long time (years). > > I would like to add that people should realise that the technology behind > it is really great and holds even more potential for the future. > Furthermore, these relatively simple features combine several key > foundational technologies (new compiler, AST, reflection, tools, spec, ...). > > This (and all the other impressive things everybody else is doing) is what > Pharo is all about. > > Sven > > > On 27 Nov 2015, at 15:17, Johan Fabry <jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl> wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > Marcus, Miguel Campusano and me have been working the last few weeks on > getting breakpoints and watchpoints working for Pharo 5. Since a few days > we have functionality that works for many cases and that is easily > accessible. Itâs really cool, I urge you to try it out! > > > > Breakpoints: > > In Nautilus in the methods list you can add a breakpoint to a method, as > well as a breakpoint that triggers once, or a breakpoint that takes a > condition. (The last is still a bit complicated. Marcus promised that he > will clean that up :-).) Also in the code pane the suggestions menu allows > you to add a breakpoint to expressions. They will be highlighted in red, > and an icon appears in the gutter. Clicking it removes the breakpoint and > also bringing up the suggestions menu allows you to remove them. > > > > Watchpoints: > > Watchpoints are a simple mechanism to log the results of specific > expressions. In the code pane the suggestions menu allows you to set a > watchpoint. The expression is highlighted in red and in the gutter a green > ball appears. Click it and you will have a simple UI that shows the last > values recorded. (Actually the watchpoint records every execution and never > throws anything away, so this can become a memory hog, be careful.) You can > remove the watchpoint from the UI and from the suggestions menu. > > > > In our experiments we found both very useful and powerful, try them out > and be sure to tell us if there are any problems > > > > ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- > > > > Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry > > PLEIAD and RyCh labs - Computer Science Department (DCC) - > University of Chile > > > > > > > -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

Nov. 27, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] breakpoints and watchpoints working

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

This is really great news. Thanks a lot to all of you for working together on this and for working on it persistently for such long time (years). I would like to add that people should realise that the technology behind it is really great and holds even more potential for the future. Furthermore, these relatively simple features combine several key foundational technologies (new compiler, AST, reflection, tools, spec, ...). This (and all the other impressive things everybody else is doing) is what Pharo is all about. Sven > On 27 Nov 2015, at 15:17, Johan Fabry <jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl> wrote: > > Hi all, > > Marcus, Miguel Campusano and me have been working the last few weeks on getting breakpoints and watchpoints working for Pharo 5. Since a few days we have functionality that works for many cases and that is easily accessible. Itâs really cool, I urge you to try it out! > > Breakpoints: > In Nautilus in the methods list you can add a breakpoint to a method, as well as a breakpoint that triggers once, or a breakpoint that takes a condition. (The last is still a bit complicated. Marcus promised that he will clean that up :-).) Also in the code pane the suggestions menu allows you to add a breakpoint to expressions. They will be highlighted in red, and an icon appears in the gutter. Clicking it removes the breakpoint and also bringing up the suggestions menu allows you to remove them. > > Watchpoints: > Watchpoints are a simple mechanism to log the results of specific expressions. In the code pane the suggestions menu allows you to set a watchpoint. The expression is highlighted in red and in the gutter a green ball appears. Click it and you will have a simple UI that shows the last values recorded. (Actually the watchpoint records every execution and never throws anything away, so this can become a memory hog, be careful.) You can remove the watchpoint from the UI and from the suggestions menu. > > In our experiments we found both very useful and powerful, try them out and be sure to tell us if there are any problems > > ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- > > Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry > PLEIAD and RyCh labs - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile > >

Nov. 27, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] breakpoints and watchpoints working

by Johan Fabry

Thanks for the kind (deleted) words :-) Yes the next step for watchpoints would be better management of the values that are recorded. Visualizations would be really great, I have been thinking about that (just in the abstract) and the sky is the limit. There is nothing yet because we have not had time to work on this. Also some standard logging infrastructure in Pharo would be nice, now itâs just an ordered collection but this should be changed to a better way to do logging. > On Nov 27, 2015, at 13:39, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Breakpoints are very convenient but I am in love with watchpoints !!!! You guys are amazing ! A million thank you :) > > As I said to Marcus I imagine some very nice graph visualization of data evolution with roassal for this :) ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry PLEIAD and RyCh labs - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile

Nov. 27, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] breakpoints and watchpoints working

by Dimitris Chloupis

Excuse the language but I think its justified THIS IS FUCKING AMAZING !!!! Breakpoints are very convenient but I am in love with watchpoints !!!! You guys are amazing ! A million thank you :) As I said to Marcus I imagine some very nice graph visualization of data evolution with roassal for this :) On Fri, Nov 27, 2015 at 4:18 PM Johan Fabry <jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl> wrote: > Hi all, > > Marcus, Miguel Campusano and me have been working the last few weeks on > getting breakpoints and watchpoints working for Pharo 5. Since a few days > we have functionality that works for many cases and that is easily > accessible. Itâs really cool, I urge you to try it out! > > Breakpoints: > In Nautilus in the methods list you can add a breakpoint to a method, as > well as a breakpoint that triggers once, or a breakpoint that takes a > condition. (The last is still a bit complicated. Marcus promised that he > will clean that up :-).) Also in the code pane the suggestions menu allows > you to add a breakpoint to expressions. They will be highlighted in red, > and an icon appears in the gutter. Clicking it removes the breakpoint and > also bringing up the suggestions menu allows you to remove them. > > Watchpoints: > Watchpoints are a simple mechanism to log the results of specific > expressions. In the code pane the suggestions menu allows you to set a > watchpoint. The expression is highlighted in red and in the gutter a green > ball appears. Click it and you will have a simple UI that shows the last > values recorded. (Actually the watchpoint records every execution and never > throws anything away, so this can become a memory hog, be careful.) You can > remove the watchpoint from the UI and from the suggestions menu. > > In our experiments we found both very useful and powerful, try them out > and be sure to tell us if there are any problems > > ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- > > Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry > PLEIAD and RyCh labs - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University > of Chile > > >

Nov. 27, 2015

[ANN] breakpoints and watchpoints working

by Johan Fabry

Hi all, Marcus, Miguel Campusano and me have been working the last few weeks on getting breakpoints and watchpoints working for Pharo 5. Since a few days we have functionality that works for many cases and that is easily accessible. Itâs really cool, I urge you to try it out! Breakpoints: In Nautilus in the methods list you can add a breakpoint to a method, as well as a breakpoint that triggers once, or a breakpoint that takes a condition. (The last is still a bit complicated. Marcus promised that he will clean that up :-).) Also in the code pane the suggestions menu allows you to add a breakpoint to expressions. They will be highlighted in red, and an icon appears in the gutter. Clicking it removes the breakpoint and also bringing up the suggestions menu allows you to remove them. Watchpoints: Watchpoints are a simple mechanism to log the results of specific expressions. In the code pane the suggestions menu allows you to set a watchpoint. The expression is highlighted in red and in the gutter a green ball appears. Click it and you will have a simple UI that shows the last values recorded. (Actually the watchpoint records every execution and never throws anything away, so this can become a memory hog, be careful.) You can remove the watchpoint from the UI and from the suggestions menu. In our experiments we found both very useful and powerful, try them out and be sure to tell us if there are any problems ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry PLEIAD and RyCh labs - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile

Nov. 27, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Analyzing Tweets

by Alexandre Bergel

I do not know. I told them to register, but I have no idea if they actually did. Alexandre > On Nov 27, 2015, at 12:13 AM, Arturo Zambrano <arturo.zambrano(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Looks nice, very similar to what Agustin presented in Smalltalks a few days ago. We will post more info soon. > > > So there are at least 3 known projects working in Pharo + Roassal > > Are the authors in this list? Great work! > It would be great to share the experience > > On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 5:12 PM, Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas <offray(a)riseup.net> wrote: > Never mind. I found it[1]. It was on the see more of the you tube video (I advice to make it more visible on the page of the project): > > [1] https://github.com/ser515asu/AgileTweetViz-Technocrats > [2] https://sites.google.com/a/asu.edu/project-geeko/ > > Cheers, > > Offray > > > On 26/11/15 15:07, Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas wrote: > Really nice and helpful... I don't see any public repo for the tool on . There is any? > > Cheers, > > Offray > > On 26/11/15 13:44, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > Hi! > > Some students from Arizona State University are analyzing some tweets. This is pretty cool. Here are some short video and url full of pictures: > > https://sites.google.com/a/asu.edu/project-geeko/ > https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxQoWoSofKvaTkN5bk9hN0NyQ28/view > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnuc_crnWB0&feature=youtu.be > > Impressive! > > Cheers, > Alexandre > > > > > > -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Nov. 27, 2015

Python's argparse like CommandlineHandler?

by Julien Delplanque

Hello, Is there a way to specify: - The "type" of command line arguments. - The default value if none is given. - That an argument is obligatory or optional? A bit like argparse does in Python, if you know it. Julien

Nov. 27, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Analyzing Tweets

by Arturo Zambrano

Looks nice, very similar to what Agustin presented in Smalltalks a few days ago. We will post more info soon. So there are at least 3 known projects working in Pharo + Roassal Are the authors in this list? Great work! It would be great to share the experience On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 5:12 PM, Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas < offray(a)riseup.net> wrote: > Never mind. I found it[1]. It was on the see more of the you tube video (I > advice to make it more visible on the page of the project): > > [1] https://github.com/ser515asu/AgileTweetViz-Technocrats > [2] https://sites.google.com/a/asu.edu/project-geeko/ > > Cheers, > > Offray > > > On 26/11/15 15:07, Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas wrote: > >> Really nice and helpful... I don't see any public repo for the tool on . >> There is any? >> >> Cheers, >> >> Offray >> >> On 26/11/15 13:44, Alexandre Bergel wrote: >> >>> Hi! >>> >>> Some students from Arizona State University are analyzing some tweets. >>> This is pretty cool. Here are some short video and url full of pictures: >>> >>> https://sites.google.com/a/asu.edu/project-geeko/ >>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxQoWoSofKvaTkN5bk9hN0NyQ28/view >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnuc_crnWB0&feature=youtu.be >>> >>> Impressive! >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Alexandre >>> >> >> >> >> > >

Nov. 27, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Analyzing Tweets

by Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas

Never mind. I found it[1]. It was on the see more of the you tube video (I advice to make it more visible on the page of the project): [1] https://github.com/ser515asu/AgileTweetViz-Technocrats [2] https://sites.google.com/a/asu.edu/project-geeko/ Cheers, Offray On 26/11/15 15:07, Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas wrote: > Really nice and helpful... I don't see any public repo for the tool on > . There is any? > > Cheers, > > Offray > > On 26/11/15 13:44, Alexandre Bergel wrote: >> Hi! >> >> Some students from Arizona State University are analyzing some >> tweets. This is pretty cool. Here are some short video and url full >> of pictures: >> >> https://sites.google.com/a/asu.edu/project-geeko/ >> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxQoWoSofKvaTkN5bk9hN0NyQ28/view >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnuc_crnWB0&feature=youtu.be >> >> Impressive! >> >> Cheers, >> Alexandre > > >

Nov. 26, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Analyzing Tweets

by Alexandre Bergel

Their work is public, but they had to store their work on github. So, you need to look up on Github. Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > On Nov 26, 2015, at 5:07 PM, Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas <offray(a)riseup.net> wrote: > > Really nice and helpful... I don't see any public repo for the tool on . There is any? > > Cheers, > > Offray > > On 26/11/15 13:44, Alexandre Bergel wrote: >> Hi! >> >> Some students from Arizona State University are analyzing some tweets. This is pretty cool. Here are some short video and url full of pictures: >> >> https://sites.google.com/a/asu.edu/project-geeko/ >> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxQoWoSofKvaTkN5bk9hN0NyQ28/view >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnuc_crnWB0&feature=youtu.be >> >> Impressive! >> >> Cheers, >> Alexandre > >

Nov. 26, 2015