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Re: [Pharo-users] [Moose-dev] MacroRecorder available in Pharo

by Leonardo Silva

Nice work Gustavo, congratulations ! Leonardo On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 6:34 AM, Gustavo Santos <gugajansen(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hello guys, > > I would like to present you MacroRecorder, a tool to build custom source > code transformations in Pharo. > > The tool is available in the Catalog for some weeks now. > The current version runs in Pharo 5 and there is an old version running in > Pharo 4. > > To show how this tool works, I prepared a quick demo video. > Take a look: https://youtu.be/gW3l4O-WEGs > > Right now, I'm interested in usage data. > That means, if you face a case of repetitive code transformation in > practice, and I believe this happened to most of you, please: > (i) show me the transformations you did, in case they already happened in > the past, or > (ii) consider using the tool to apply them automatically > > And, of course, feel free to ask questions, provide feedback, etc. > > Kind regards, > > -- > Gustavo Santos > http://gustavojss.github.io/ > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > Moose-dev(a)list.inf.unibe.ch > https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev > >

Dec. 4, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] evolutions of squeakelib & crypto (Reed Solomon)

by Stephan Eggermont

On 03-12-15 23:06, Robert Withers wrote: > Are any of these used by both squeak and Pharo? That would be the right > move I think. I will ask about getting my password reset for > squeaksource, since that is where the old code resides. All of them. Mostly timing of project start/high activity and who are maintaining it decided on platforms. There was a time when squeaksource was not so stable and then many projects migrated, and I currently hear least about stability issues from ss3, but the load on smalltalkhub is much higher, I assume, as that is used for the pharo ci. In the not so far future Pharo is likely to move to a git based infrastructure, using libgit2. Early adopters are already using it. I haven't heard the squeak ideas about that. Stephan

Dec. 4, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] ZnClient problem with extensions

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

Hi Dimitris, Thanks for the feedback. > On 04 Dec 2015, at 08:01, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > I am on Yosemite, latest 5 image, lastest VM and using this code > > ZnClient new url: 'https://github.com/kilon/ChronosManager/archive/master.zip'; setIfModifiedSince: (Date year: 2015 month: 12 day: 1); downloadTo: FileLocator imageDirectory. > > it downloads the file but does not append the extension ".zip" as it should. Hmm, that is tricky. If you inspect ZnLogEvent announcer during the execution you will notice that a redirect is involved. Your original request for https://github.com/kilon/ChronosManager/archive/master.zip gets redirected to a request for https://codeload.github.com/kilon/ChronosManager/zip/master for which the name is effectively 'master' without the extension. Maybe the original name should be used, I have to think a bit about that. It seems that curl does it like that. In any case, you can also specify a file to #downloadTo: as a workaround. Try: ZnClient new url: 'https://github.com/kilon/ChronosManager/archive/master.zip'; setIfModifiedSince: (Date year: 2015 month: 12 day: 1); downloadTo: FileLocator imageDirectory / 'master.zip'; yourself. > Unfortunately setIfModifiedSince: does not seem to be supported by Github :( Yeah, not much you can do about that. Sven

Dec. 4, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Code pane in Pharo 5

by Nicolai Hess

2015-12-04 9:55 GMT+01:00 phil(a)highoctane.be <phil(a)highoctane.be>: > Is there a way to have that pane with *less* noise around the code? > > Like getting rid of the suggestions panel at the bottom? > You can disable the "Quality Assistance"-NautilusPlugin > Or the status line with W +L Format as you type? > > Not that I do not like them (at times), just that all of the bright > red/green icons are distracting (a little more toned down color would be > welcome). > > With small methods, this makes a lot of text in the way. > > When there are a ton of Nautiluses around, this adds up. > > I feel like I code on a Christmas tree. > > Phil > > >

Dec. 4, 2015

Code pane in Pharo 5

by phil＠highoctane.be

Is there a way to have that pane with *less* noise around the code? Like getting rid of the suggestions panel at the bottom? Or the status line with W +L Format as you type? Not that I do not like them (at times), just that all of the bright red/green icons are distracting (a little more toned down color would be welcome). With small methods, this makes a lot of text in the way. When there are a ton of Nautiluses around, this adds up. I feel like I code on a Christmas tree. Phil

Dec. 4, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] [Moose-dev] MacroRecorder available in Pharo

by Dimitris Chloupis

WOW a pharo video where someone actually speaks, thats rare :D Impressive tool, and certainly useful if you have to do a lot of changes in a lot of code. The name is a bit misleading because its not really a general purpose macro recorder and focused only on transformations. I vaguely remember another macro recorder that was able to macro record and playback any pharo action. On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 10:35 AM Gustavo Santos <gugajansen(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hello guys, > > I would like to present you MacroRecorder, a tool to build custom source > code transformations in Pharo. > > The tool is available in the Catalog for some weeks now. > The current version runs in Pharo 5 and there is an old version running in > Pharo 4. > > To show how this tool works, I prepared a quick demo video. > Take a look: https://youtu.be/gW3l4O-WEGs > > Right now, I'm interested in usage data. > That means, if you face a case of repetitive code transformation in > practice, and I believe this happened to most of you, please: > (i) show me the transformations you did, in case they already happened in > the past, or > (ii) consider using the tool to apply them automatically > > And, of course, feel free to ask questions, provide feedback, etc. > > Kind regards, > > -- > Gustavo Santos > http://gustavojss.github.io/ > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > Moose-dev(a)list.inf.unibe.ch > https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev >

Dec. 4, 2015

MacroRecorder available in Pharo

by Gustavo Santos

Hello guys, I would like to present you MacroRecorder, a tool to build custom source code transformations in Pharo. The tool is available in the Catalog for some weeks now. The current version runs in Pharo 5 and there is an old version running in Pharo 4. To show how this tool works, I prepared a quick demo video. Take a look: https://youtu.be/gW3l4O-WEGs Right now, I'm interested in usage data. That means, if you face a case of repetitive code transformation in practice, and I believe this happened to most of you, please: (i) show me the transformations you did, in case they already happened in the past, or (ii) consider using the tool to apply them automatically And, of course, feel free to ask questions, provide feedback, etc. Kind regards, -- Gustavo Santos http://gustavojss.github.io/

Dec. 4, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo Consortium New Gold Member: Thales

by EuanM

Cool. Ty. On 30 November 2015 at 16:40, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: > > > Le 30/11/15 05:27, EuanM a Ã©crit : >> >> That's great news. >> >> It would be really interesting, and really useful to >> community-enlargement works, to know: >> Which part of Thales drove this? > > This is the division doing radar UI prototypes. >> >> What is their specific interest in Pharo? > > Bloc, Brick, OSWindow, OSEvent, Woden > > This is why we got a project with them and this is why the work that > igor did on > improving the integration of OSWindow in Pharo has been paid by this > project. > >> Or what is their current >> (or proposed) use of Pharo? > > > They plan to do all the prototypes (and they are sexy) using Pharo. > > Stef > >> >> >> >> >> >> On 26 November 2015 at 13:42, <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: >>> >>> The Pharo Consortium is very happy to announce that Thales >>> has joined the Consortium as an Gold Member. >>> >>> About >>> - Thales: https://www.thalesgroup.com >>> - Pharo Consortium: http://consortium.pharo.org >>> >>> The goal of the Pharo Consortium is to allow companies and institutions >>> to >>> support the ongoing development and future of Pharo. >>> >>> Individuals can support Pharo via the Pharo Association: >>> >>> http://association.pharo.org >>> >> > >

Dec. 4, 2015

ZnClient problem with extensions

by Dimitris Chloupis

I am on Yosemite, latest 5 image, lastest VM and using this code ZnClient new url: ' https://github.com/kilon/ChronosManager/archive/master.zip'; setIfModifiedSince: (Date year: 2015 month: 12 day: 1); downloadTo: FileLocator imageDirectory. it downloads the file but does not append the extension ".zip" as it should. Unfortunately setIfModifiedSince: does not seem to be supported by Github :(

Dec. 4, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] New Introductory Tutorial

by EuanM

Thank you for the kind words, Stephane. Here is my vision. 1) Commercial uptake, with an ongoing upwards growth trend 2) Thriving community of developers, with an ongoing upwards trend. 3) A platform with sufficient stability for commercial use, to provide 1) 4) A platform with sufficient stability for adequate documentation (i.e. documentation which correctly describes the system) - that leads to sufficient levels of interest to provide 1) and 2). (Documention requires refactoring, maintenance and expansion, just as the code-base segment of the system does. This means it requires time and attention. Which is easier if the community is thriving and growing). The important point of any vision is that it is realised. That requires sufficient people and activity, which is why I think the two visions are both important to one another. However, it is a chicken-and-egg problem. Chicken-and-egg problems are hard. (http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000054.html) The same issue has come up within the erlang community. ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MvKLOecT1I ) I won't address the questions posed - except to say I don't think they are as rhetorical as people might think. Cheers, EuanM On 14 November 2015 at 07:40, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: > Thanks this is nice effort. > > Now some remarks: > - Do you think that great speakers like doru would be invited to prime > time conference to talk about a language that is from 1980? > - You talk about momentum and shared space. Do you think that it is wise > to talk about a Smalltalk whose forum has 5 posts in a year? > - We have to create the momentum and we should not look back (it does > not mean that we should not know our culture and history) and > invent for real the future. > > Now do not get me wrong: I do pharo and the battle is not against squeak, > cuis or... it is against Javascript, Ruby, Lua, Python. > So decide were you put your energy. I chose for mine. > > This is my last post on this thread. People not happy with my points can be > not happy but I'm right and I will not deviate one inch > :). > > Stef > > PS: working on a teaser about Pharo and its vision > > PSPS: > my vision > > ultimate live environment > great reflective system > well integrated with C > well integrated with OSes > wonderful IDE > > > > Le 14/11/15 06:02, EuanM a Ã©crit : > >> I've created Yet Another Smalltalk First >> Steps tutorial. >> >> This is intended as one of a series. >> >> It is designed to be cross-platform across >> >> Squeak 5 >> Pharo 4 >> Seaside 3.1 >> Cuis >> Dolphin 6 >> >> If you have experience running any of these systems on Windows, Linux >> or MacOS, please check to see if I have the instructions correct for >> your chosen pairing of Smalltalk and OS platform. >> >> (As you'll see when you look, I do not have detailed instructions for >> aspects of MacOS). >> >> The document is at: >> >> http://smalltalkinsmallsteps.blogspot.co.uk/2015/11/get-smalltalk-up-and-ru… >> >> (It's intended to move to a different blog after this review process). >> >> I feel the need to do this as cross-Smalltalks tutorial because of >> findings and 4 charts I've placed at: >> >> http://smalltalkinsmallsteps.blogspot.co.uk/2015/11/mindshare-of-smalltalk-… >> >> Essentially, Smalltalk mindshare and use is incredibly tiny, compared >> to other languages in the same space. (We all know this, but seeing >> it represented graphically has a more visceral effect, IMO) >> >> Aggregating interest in all the Smalltalks still does not bring more >> than a tiny proportion of the interest in, and use of, Ruby. >> >> In turn, Ruby is (quite understandably) small in comparison to JavaScript. >> >> Comparing interest in any specific Smalltalk is, predictably, smaller >> than the aggregate interest in Smalltalk. >> >> Our community seems determined to split itself into smaller and >> smaller sub-communities. I think we do ourselves a disservice this >> way. >> >> My initial contribution will be to try to provide some explicitly >> pan-Smalltalk beginners' tutorials, like this one. >> >> Cheers, and happy Smalltalking, >> EuanM >> >> > >

Dec. 4, 2015