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Re: [Pharo-users] evolutions of squeakelib & crypto (Reed Solomon)

by Esteban Lorenzano

which squeak version? of what? > On 04 Dec 2015, at 12:15, Robert Withers <robert.w.withers(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > I just realized that the squeak version uses ReferenceStream while the Pharo version uses Fuel, so the binary serializations are different and they won't speak to each other. Any chance that Fuel is ported to Squeak? > > Regards, > Robert > > On 12/04/2015 06:11 AM, Robert Withers wrote: >> I am unable to import these files into SqueakSource, so it may be best done from inside Pharo with Monticello. Here are working Crypto and SqueakElib in Pharo, prior to SecureSession refactoring and Reed Solomon. I include the correct version of LayeredProtocol. >> >> Regards, >> Robert >> >> >> On 12/04/2015 05:47 AM, Robert Withers wrote: >>> Best Regards >>> >>> http://www.squeaksource.com/Cryptography.html <http://www.squeaksource.com/Cryptography.html> >>> http://www.squeaksource.com/squeakelib.html <http://www.squeaksource.com/squeakelib.html> >>> >>> >>> On 12/04/2015 05:44 AM, Robert Withers wrote: >>>> After my password reset on squeaksource, I committed to both Cryptography and SqueakElib, project links below. >>>> >>>> In the case of Cryptography, I had a version ported to Pharo ... I will organize Pharo ports of both after Reed Solomon is stable, and announce them to the Pharo list. This way both environments can be supported through this one repository. >>>> >>>> Robert >>>> >>>> On 12/04/2015 04:35 AM, Stephan Eggermont wrote: >>>>> On 03-12-15 23:06, Robert Withers wrote: >>>>>> Are any of these used by both squeak and Pharo? That would be the right >>>>>> move I think. I will ask about getting my password reset for >>>>>> squeaksource, since that is where the old code resides. >>>>> >>>>> All of them. Mostly timing of project start/high activity and who are >>>>> maintaining it decided on platforms. There was a time when squeaksource was not so stable and then many projects migrated, and I currently hear least about stability issues from ss3, but the load on smalltalkhub is much higher, I assume, as that is used for the pharo ci. >>>>> >>>>> In the not so far future Pharo is likely to move to a git based infrastructure, using libgit2. Early adopters are already using it. >>>>> I haven't heard the squeak ideas about that. >>>>> >>>>> Stephan >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >

Dec. 4, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] ZnClient problem with extensions

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

I decided to add the behaviour "use filename from original request, which could make a difference when redirects are followed" to #downloadTo: while #downloadEntityTo: remains unchanged (not that it could change because the original request is gone by then). In Zn #bleedingEdge: === Name: Zinc-HTTP-SvenVanCaekenberghe.443 Author: SvenVanCaekenberghe Time: 4 December 2015, 3:26:34.596347 pm UUID: 967114b0-e87f-4c5e-a511-d31efc27acae Ancestors: Zinc-HTTP-SvenVanCaekenberghe.442 Change ZnClient>>#downloadTo: to use the original request's URI for the basename to download to (this could make a difference when redirects are followed) Add comments to make this difference between #downloadTo: and #downloadEntityTo: clear === As for the overwriting of an existing file, if you load === Name: Zinc-FileSystem-SvenVanCaekenberghe.12 Author: SvenVanCaekenberghe Time: 4 December 2015, 3:23:41.83904 pm UUID: 66adef8d-edfb-49e1-aa33-f464ae2ca28f Ancestors: Zinc-FileSystem-SvenVanCaekenberghe.11 Use proper resumable exceptions, FileExits and FileDoes NotExit, in ZnFileSystemUtils === You can now do as follows: [ ZnClient new url: 'https://github.com/kilon/ChronosManager/archive/master.zip'; downloadTo: FileLocator imageDirectory; yourself ] on: FileExists do: [ :exception | exception resume ] HTH, Sven > On 04 Dec 2015, at 11:56, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > "Thanks for the feedback." > > Thanks for this very useful library :) > > "Hmm, that is tricky. If you inspect ZnLogEvent announcer during the execution you will notice that a redirect is involved. Your original request for https://github.com/kilon/ChronosManager/archive/master.zip gets redirected to a request for https://codeload.github.com/kilon/ChronosManager/zip/master for which the name is effectively 'master' without the extension. Maybe the original name should be used, I have to think a bit about that. It seems that curl does it like that." > > naughty Github > > but I am curious is it not normal for a dowload link to redirect to something else anyway ? I have seen such redirections frequently with browser. > > "ZnClient new url: 'https://github.com/kilon/ChronosManager/archive/master.zip'; setIfModifiedSince: (Date year: 2015 month: 12 day: 1); downloadTo: FileLocator imageDirectory / 'master.zip'; yourself." > > yes that though crossed my mind too. > > How I tell ZnClient to overwrite an existing file , because by default it complains and pops up a dialog. > > "Yeah, not much you can do about that." > > Well I could have gone with the Github api in the first place , as Skip notedm but I am clueless when it comes to web dev. > > " > The API supports conditional requests (If-Modified-Since and If-None-Match), so perhaps you should use the API endpoints: > > https://developer.github.com/v3/#conditional-requests" > > because I am clueless with web dev can you help me understand how to do this with ZnClient ? > > Is this what people are referring to as a REST API ? > > > " > I am planning to implement caching and conditional requests in my API bindings: > > https://github.com/Balletie/GitHub > " > > your tool is great but i am trying to create as few dependencies for my project as possible or else it will take forever to load in a pharo image but I am definitely interesting into learning from your code . Thanks :)

Dec. 4, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] MacroRecorder available in Pharo

by Alexandre Bergel

Excellent! Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > On Dec 4, 2015, at 5:34 AM, Gustavo Santos <gugajansen(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hello guys, > > I would like to present you MacroRecorder, a tool to build custom source code transformations in Pharo. > > The tool is available in the Catalog for some weeks now. > The current version runs in Pharo 5 and there is an old version running in Pharo 4. > > To show how this tool works, I prepared a quick demo video. > Take a look: https://youtu.be/gW3l4O-WEGs <https://youtu.be/gW3l4O-WEGs> > Right now, I'm interested in usage data. > That means, if you face a case of repetitive code transformation in practice, and I believe this happened to most of you, please: > (i) show me the transformations you did, in case they already happened in the past, or > (ii) consider using the tool to apply them automatically > > And, of course, feel free to ask questions, provide feedback, etc. > > Kind regards, > > -- > Gustavo Santos > http://gustavojss.github.io/ <http://gustavojss.github.io/>

Dec. 4, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] evolutions of squeakelib & crypto (Reed Solomon)

by Robert Withers

I just realized that the squeak version uses ReferenceStream while the Pharo version uses Fuel, so the binary serializations are different and they won't speak to each other. Any chance that Fuel is ported to Squeak? Regards, Robert On 12/04/2015 06:11 AM, Robert Withers wrote: > I am unable to import these files into SqueakSource, so it may be best > done from inside Pharo with Monticello. Here are working Crypto and > SqueakElib in Pharo, prior to SecureSession refactoring and Reed > Solomon. I include the correct version of LayeredProtocol. > > Regards, > Robert > > > On 12/04/2015 05:47 AM, Robert Withers wrote: >> Best Regards >> >> http://www.squeaksource.com/Cryptography.html >> http://www.squeaksource.com/squeakelib.html >> >> >> On 12/04/2015 05:44 AM, Robert Withers wrote: >>> After my password reset on squeaksource, I committed to both >>> Cryptography and SqueakElib, project links below. >>> >>> In the case of Cryptography, I had a version ported to Pharo ... I >>> will organize Pharo ports of both after Reed Solomon is stable, and >>> announce them to the Pharo list. This way both environments can be >>> supported through this one repository. >>> >>> Robert >>> >>> On 12/04/2015 04:35 AM, Stephan Eggermont wrote: >>>> On 03-12-15 23:06, Robert Withers wrote: >>>>> Are any of these used by both squeak and Pharo? That would be the >>>>> right >>>>> move I think. I will ask about getting my password reset for >>>>> squeaksource, since that is where the old code resides. >>>> >>>> All of them. Mostly timing of project start/high activity and who are >>>> maintaining it decided on platforms. There was a time when >>>> squeaksource was not so stable and then many projects migrated, and >>>> I currently hear least about stability issues from ss3, but the >>>> load on smalltalkhub is much higher, I assume, as that is used for >>>> the pharo ci. >>>> >>>> In the not so far future Pharo is likely to move to a git based >>>> infrastructure, using libgit2. Early adopters are already using it. >>>> I haven't heard the squeak ideas about that. >>>> >>>> Stephan >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >

Dec. 4, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] evolutions of squeakelib & crypto (Reed Solomon)

by Robert Withers

I am unable to import these files into SqueakSource, so it may be best done from inside Pharo with Monticello. Here are working Crypto and SqueakElib in Pharo, prior to SecureSession refactoring and Reed Solomon. I include the correct version of LayeredProtocol. Regards, Robert On 12/04/2015 05:47 AM, Robert Withers wrote: > Best Regards > > http://www.squeaksource.com/Cryptography.html > http://www.squeaksource.com/squeakelib.html > > > On 12/04/2015 05:44 AM, Robert Withers wrote: >> After my password reset on squeaksource, I committed to both >> Cryptography and SqueakElib, project links below. >> >> In the case of Cryptography, I had a version ported to Pharo ... I >> will organize Pharo ports of both after Reed Solomon is stable, and >> announce them to the Pharo list. This way both environments can be >> supported through this one repository. >> >> Robert >> >> On 12/04/2015 04:35 AM, Stephan Eggermont wrote: >>> On 03-12-15 23:06, Robert Withers wrote: >>>> Are any of these used by both squeak and Pharo? That would be the >>>> right >>>> move I think. I will ask about getting my password reset for >>>> squeaksource, since that is where the old code resides. >>> >>> All of them. Mostly timing of project start/high activity and who are >>> maintaining it decided on platforms. There was a time when >>> squeaksource was not so stable and then many projects migrated, and >>> I currently hear least about stability issues from ss3, but the load >>> on smalltalkhub is much higher, I assume, as that is used for the >>> pharo ci. >>> >>> In the not so far future Pharo is likely to move to a git based >>> infrastructure, using libgit2. Early adopters are already using it. >>> I haven't heard the squeak ideas about that. >>> >>> Stephan >>> >>> >>> >> >

Dec. 4, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] ZnClient problem with extensions

by Dimitris Chloupis

"Thanks for the feedback." Thanks for this very useful library :) "Hmm, that is tricky. If you inspect ZnLogEvent announcer during the execution you will notice that a redirect is involved. Your original request for https://github.com/kilon/ChronosManager/archive/master.zip gets redirected to a request for https://codeload.github.com/kilon/ChronosManager/zip/master for which the name is effectively 'master' without the extension. Maybe the original name should be used, I have to think a bit about that. It seems that curl does it like that." naughty Github but I am curious is it not normal for a dowload link to redirect to something else anyway ? I have seen such redirections frequently with browser. "ZnClient new url: ' https://github.com/kilon/ChronosManager/archive/master.zip'; setIfModifiedSince: (Date year: 2015 month: 12 day: 1); downloadTo: FileLocator imageDirectory / 'master.zip'; yourself." yes that though crossed my mind too. How I tell ZnClient to overwrite an existing file , because by default it complains and pops up a dialog. "Yeah, not much you can do about that." Well I could have gone with the Github api in the first place , as Skip notedm but I am clueless when it comes to web dev. " The API supports conditional requests (If-Modified-Since and If-None-Match), so perhaps you should use the API endpoints: https://developer.github.com/v3/#conditional-requests" because I am clueless with web dev can you help me understand how to do this with ZnClient ? Is this what people are referring to as a REST API ? " I am planning to implement caching and conditional requests in my API bindings: https://github.com/Balletie/GitHub " your tool is great but i am trying to create as few dependencies for my project as possible or else it will take forever to load in a pharo image but I am definitely interesting into learning from your code . Thanks :)

Dec. 4, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] evolutions of squeakelib & crypto (Reed Solomon)

by Robert Withers

Best Regards http://www.squeaksource.com/Cryptography.html http://www.squeaksource.com/squeakelib.html On 12/04/2015 05:44 AM, Robert Withers wrote: > After my password reset on squeaksource, I committed to both > Cryptography and SqueakElib, project links below. > > In the case of Cryptography, I had a version ported to Pharo ... I > will organize Pharo ports of both after Reed Solomon is stable, and > announce them to the Pharo list. This way both environments can be > supported through this one repository. > > Robert > > On 12/04/2015 04:35 AM, Stephan Eggermont wrote: >> On 03-12-15 23:06, Robert Withers wrote: >>> Are any of these used by both squeak and Pharo? That would be the right >>> move I think. I will ask about getting my password reset for >>> squeaksource, since that is where the old code resides. >> >> All of them. Mostly timing of project start/high activity and who are >> maintaining it decided on platforms. There was a time when >> squeaksource was not so stable and then many projects migrated, and I >> currently hear least about stability issues from ss3, but the load on >> smalltalkhub is much higher, I assume, as that is used for the pharo ci. >> >> In the not so far future Pharo is likely to move to a git based >> infrastructure, using libgit2. Early adopters are already using it. >> I haven't heard the squeak ideas about that. >> >> Stephan >> >> >> >

Dec. 4, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] evolutions of squeakelib & crypto (Reed Solomon)

by Robert Withers

After my password reset on squeaksource, I committed to both Cryptography and SqueakElib, project links below. In the case of Cryptography, I had a version ported to Pharo ... I will organize Pharo ports of both after Reed Solomon is stable, and announce them to the Pharo list. This way both environments can be supported through this one repository. Robert On 12/04/2015 04:35 AM, Stephan Eggermont wrote: > On 03-12-15 23:06, Robert Withers wrote: >> Are any of these used by both squeak and Pharo? That would be the right >> move I think. I will ask about getting my password reset for >> squeaksource, since that is where the old code resides. > > All of them. Mostly timing of project start/high activity and who are > maintaining it decided on platforms. There was a time when > squeaksource was not so stable and then many projects migrated, and I > currently hear least about stability issues from ss3, but the load on > smalltalkhub is much higher, I assume, as that is used for the pharo ci. > > In the not so far future Pharo is likely to move to a git based > infrastructure, using libgit2. Early adopters are already using it. > I haven't heard the squeak ideas about that. > > Stephan > > >

Dec. 4, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] ZnClient problem with extensions

by Skip Lentz

> On Dec 4, 2015, at 8:01 AM, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > I am on Yosemite, latest 5 image, lastest VM and using this code > > ZnClient new url: 'https://github.com/kilon/ChronosManager/archive/master.zip <https://github.com/kilon/ChronosManager/archive/master.zip>'; setIfModifiedSince: (Date year: 2015 month: 12 day: 1); downloadTo: FileLocator imageDirectory. > > it downloads the file but does not append the extension ".zip" as it should. > > Unfortunately setIfModifiedSince: does not seem to be supported by Github :( The API supports conditional requests (If-Modified-Since and If-None-Match), so perhaps you should use the API endpoints: https://developer.github.com/v3/#conditional-requests <https://developer.github.com/v3/#conditional-requests> I am planning to implement caching and conditional requests in my API bindings: https://github.com/Balletie/GitHub <https://github.com/Balletie/GitHub> Skip

Dec. 4, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Code pane in Pharo 5

by Marcus Denker

> On 04 Dec 2015, at 09:55, phil(a)highoctane.be wrote: > > Is there a way to have that pane with *less* noise around the code? > > Like getting rid of the suggestions panel at the bottom? Or the status line with W +L Format as you type? > > Not that I do not like them (at times), just that all of the bright red/green icons are distracting (a little more toned down color would be welcome). > > With small methods, this makes a lot of text in the way. > > When there are a ton of Nautiluses around, this adds up. > > I feel like I code on a Christmas tree. Bad code looks bad, clean code looks clean. For me thatâs the right thing. Marcus

Dec. 4, 2015