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Re: [Pharo-users] Another question about Spec

by Julien Delplanque

Oh, I realize I didn't read your mail correctly, I'm sorry. I will try this trick. Julien On 04/02/16 16:55, Johan Fabry wrote: > I donât know the details of drag and drop, but it seems that you get the source widget as well as an argument of the block. From there you can get the selectedItem, which should be the one that you are dragging I suppose. Can you confirm that this works? > >> On Feb 4, 2016, at 04:38, Julien Delplanque <julien(a)tamere.eu> wrote: >> >> Hey, >> >> I use drag and drop between two lists in a project and I read this tutorial [1] to learn how to do it. >> >> My question is: Is there a way to have another object than a String as passengers in #acceptDropBlock: (I get passengers the same way as in the tutorial i.e sending #passenger to transfer object) like the objects really in the list? Because if I use #displayBlock: it became difficult to be sure I retrieve the object I dropped in the source list... >> >> Thanks in advance, >> >> Julien >> >> [1]: http://spec.st/docs/drag_n_drop/ >> >> > > > ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- > > Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry > PLEIAD and RyCh labs - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile > >

Feb. 4, 2016

Spec doc

by Hilaire

Hello I want to evaluate the use of Spec for desktop application. What are the recommended spec reading? Is Spec feature complete enough to develop application with complex GUI? (very subjective question) Is it intended to remain compatible with future release and modification of the underneath graphic system? Thanks Hilaire -- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu

Feb. 4, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] Another question about Spec

by Julien Delplanque

I understand what you say but sadly, it will not work in my case because: - I use #displayBlock: - Two or more items may be different objects but the result of the display block is the same. So I can't just use the string to retrieve the item in the list... :( Julien On 04/02/16 16:55, Johan Fabry wrote: > I donât know the details of drag and drop, but it seems that you get the source widget as well as an argument of the block. From there you can get the selectedItem, which should be the one that you are dragging I suppose. Can you confirm that this works? > >> On Feb 4, 2016, at 04:38, Julien Delplanque <julien(a)tamere.eu> wrote: >> >> Hey, >> >> I use drag and drop between two lists in a project and I read this tutorial [1] to learn how to do it. >> >> My question is: Is there a way to have another object than a String as passengers in #acceptDropBlock: (I get passengers the same way as in the tutorial i.e sending #passenger to transfer object) like the objects really in the list? Because if I use #displayBlock: it became difficult to be sure I retrieve the object I dropped in the source list... >> >> Thanks in advance, >> >> Julien >> >> [1]: http://spec.st/docs/drag_n_drop/ >> >> > > > ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- > > Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry > PLEIAD and RyCh labs - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile > >

Feb. 4, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] Simple question about Spec

by Johan Fabry

> On Feb 4, 2016, at 11:26, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: > >> >> On 04 Feb 2016, at 15:21, Johan Fabry <jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl> wrote: >> >> >> Yes, please do that! I would do it myself but Iâm on holiday this month and not allowed to touch the computer much ;-) > > And still you somehow managed to type this message ;-) It just shows how important Pharo is to me :-P ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry PLEIAD and RyCh labs - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile

Feb. 4, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] Scrollbar in Spec layout

by Johan Fabry

If I understand correctly, you are adding a lot of labels dynamically to the window, and you want a scrollbar to appear to the window, correct? I am afraid that this scenario is not supported by Spec. Instead you should use a list and add items there. Then you will get the scroll bar for free. Note that you can configure the list so that nothing can be selected, so the visual look will be more or less the same. HTH, > On Feb 3, 2016, at 09:49, LE Xuan Sang <xsang.le(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hello, > > Here goes an example snapshot of my problem. > > Cheer, > > Sang > <MultiRowInColumn.st> > >> Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2016 16:59:01 +0800 >> From: Ben Coman <btc(a)openinworld.com> >> To: Any question about pharo is welcome <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> >> Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] Scrollbar in Spec layout >> Message-ID: >> <CAProBTmEm_aYDpoCFrptCQgA3Xx7MmDO67W5bMghSC50q69Hyw(a)mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >> >> On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 4:45 PM, LE Xuan Sang <xsang.le(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> I use Spec (Pharo 4) to develop my GUI application. In my Spec layout, one of the columns has a large amount of rows (dynamic content indeed). So i need it to be scrollable. Does anyone knows how to add a scrollbar to that column? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> LE Sang >> >> I'm not sure if I'm the one to help you, but could you post a snapshot? >> cheers -ben >> >> > ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry PLEIAD and RyCh labs - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile

Feb. 4, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] Another question about Spec

by Johan Fabry

I donât know the details of drag and drop, but it seems that you get the source widget as well as an argument of the block. From there you can get the selectedItem, which should be the one that you are dragging I suppose. Can you confirm that this works? > On Feb 4, 2016, at 04:38, Julien Delplanque <julien(a)tamere.eu> wrote: > > Hey, > > I use drag and drop between two lists in a project and I read this tutorial [1] to learn how to do it. > > My question is: Is there a way to have another object than a String as passengers in #acceptDropBlock: (I get passengers the same way as in the tutorial i.e sending #passenger to transfer object) like the objects really in the list? Because if I use #displayBlock: it became difficult to be sure I retrieve the object I dropped in the source list... > > Thanks in advance, > > Julien > > [1]: http://spec.st/docs/drag_n_drop/ > > ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry PLEIAD and RyCh labs - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile

Feb. 4, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] Simple question about Spec

by Julien Delplanque

Ok, its done here [1], I hope I followed the procedure correctly. :) Julien [1]: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/17528/Missing-activate-message-in-WindowM… On 04/02/16 15:26, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: >> On 04 Feb 2016, at 15:21, Johan Fabry <jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl> wrote: >> >> >> Yes, please do that! I would do it myself but Iâm on holiday this month and not allowed to touch the computer much ;-) > And still you somehow managed to type this message ;-) > >>> On Feb 4, 2016, at 09:10, Stephan Eggermont <stephan(a)stack.nl> wrote: >>> >>> On 04-02-16 08:28, Julien Delplanque wrote: >>>> To match my needs, I simply added an extension to WindowModel with the >>>> message #activate. >>> Just create an issue and fix it in place and put a slice in the inbox. >>> You will not be the only one needing it. >>> >>> Stephan >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- >> >> Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry >> PLEIAD and RyCh labs - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile >> >> >

Feb. 4, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] Image Cleaner no longer useful?

by Marcus Denker

Hello, Sorry for the late answer. I think there are multiple problemsâ¦ 1) slowness. This is strange that unloading packages is so slow. This looks like a bug to me. 2) image size in Pharo5: We have a bug right now that images *never* shrink. This means that if you save an image once with 80MB, even if the GC cleans up, the saved image stays 80MB. We should fix bothâ¦. > On 25 Jan 2016, at 13:32, Maximiliano Tabacman via Pharo-users <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> wrote: > > > From: Maximiliano Tabacman <mtabacman(a)yahoo.com> > Subject: Image Cleaner no longer useful? > Date: 25 January 2016 at 13:31:28 GMT+1 > To: "pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org" <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> > Reply-To: Maximiliano Tabacman <mtabacman(a)yahoo.com> > > > Hi, and sorry if this has already been discussed. > > In Pharo 3, I used to be able to do: > > ImageCleaner cleanUpForProduction > > and that would correctly remove a lot of unneeded code in the image when preparing for a productive release. > Then I would save the cleaned image, and since it had been cleaned, it would be smaller than the original development image (say from 60 mb to 25 mb). > This process would take about 2-3 minutes. > > Then, in Pharo 4 it seems some changes were made here, since the same process took a lot more, like 20 minutes. > > When I first tried Pharo 5, I was happy to see that it was again down to 2-3 minutes. > > And here comes my question... > Why is it that since some 2 months ago (maybe more), the Pharo 5 images once again require like 20 minutes to complete the cleanUpForProduction process? > > Also, and this is the most relevant to me, it no longer reduces the image size. > So if I want to release a Pharo 5 version based on the latest images, I would be shipping a product that is more than twice the size of previous public versions of my software! > > Thanks for any insights into this. If it is a known bug, I would like to know if there is any workaround, or alternative objects that I should be using for the process. > Also, if it would help for me to run any tests in particular to share and help in fixing this, please let me know. > >

Feb. 4, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] Simple question about Spec

by Julien Delplanque

Ok, it will be a good occasion to learn the contribution process *shame on me*. Julien On 04/02/16 13:10, Stephan Eggermont wrote: > On 04-02-16 08:28, Julien Delplanque wrote: >> To match my needs, I simply added an extension to WindowModel with the >> message #activate. > > Just create an issue and fix it in place and put a slice in the inbox. > You will not be the only one needing it. > > Stephan > > >

Feb. 4, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] Simple question about Spec

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

> On 04 Feb 2016, at 15:21, Johan Fabry <jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl> wrote: > > > Yes, please do that! I would do it myself but Iâm on holiday this month and not allowed to touch the computer much ;-) And still you somehow managed to type this message ;-) >> On Feb 4, 2016, at 09:10, Stephan Eggermont <stephan(a)stack.nl> wrote: >> >> On 04-02-16 08:28, Julien Delplanque wrote: >>> To match my needs, I simply added an extension to WindowModel with the >>> message #activate. >> >> Just create an issue and fix it in place and put a slice in the inbox. >> You will not be the only one needing it. >> >> Stephan >> >> >> >> > > > > ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- > > Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry > PLEIAD and RyCh labs - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile > >

Feb. 4, 2016