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Re: [Pharo-users] GSOC 2016 Application update

by Alexandre Bergel

Hi Serge, I went through your description. Here are some comments: "enjoy increasing popularityâ => "enjoy an increasing popularityâ "Also it is very important for us to keep a good record and expand the community, and in previous years we even managed to organize our own "summer code" programs for a couple of students, so in the worst case we will find a replacement from the core part of the community, or the board itself.â => I would say âMaintaining a strong connection between mentors and students is highly important for the Pharo community. As a mechanism to have a stable relationship between mentors and students, we have organized our own âsummer codeâ programs for a couple of students in case. However, relying on the fundings of our community is unreliable, which is why we are apply to GSOC 2016.â >>> How will you help your students stay on schedule to complete their >>> projects? (886/1000) => I would structure an answer around: - ESUG sponsors students to attend the conference to show their result of GSOC. On counterpart, students help organizing the event. - Our community is friendly and always careful with new and young students. It is part of our culture to assist them (using local programmer gathering) - We offers a dedicated mailing for less-experienced people. This is the starting point of communication for many students. >>> We innovate every part of the development experience => âPharo innovates every part of the development experience." >>> ### Simple & powerful language >>> No constructors, no types declaration, no interfaces, no primitive >>> types. => I am not sure that everybody who will positively read that Pharo has no constructor, type declaration and interfaces. I would omit this. It does not make the proposal stronger in my opinion. In the part of what is Pharo, I would mention that Pharo is successfully used in several domain, such as data visualization, web server development, software reengineering activities, biological analysis, <insert more here>. This is more concrete I think. The url of pharo is not given? Go go go! Alexandre > On Feb 17, 2016, at 11:03 AM, Serge Stinckwich <serge.stinckwich(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Thank you Alex. > Can you have a look to your previous ideas proposal and update them ? > > > On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 2:44 PM, Alexandre Bergel > <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: >> Thanks Serge! This is a very important effort you are leading >> >> Alexandre >> >> >>> On Feb 17, 2016, at 5:27 AM, Serge Stinckwich <serge.stinckwich(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Dear all, >>> >>> just a quick update to GSOC application of Pharo this year >>> >>> - We have enough topics I guess. I already send a reminder on the >>> various mailing-list. >>> List of topics here: >>> https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-project-proposals/blob/master/Topics… >>> >>> We have to generate the html from the topics list and put the result >>> on the gsoc.pharo,org website. I ask Uko to have a look to this, but I >>> don't want to loose to much time on this. I was wondering if we should >>> transform the list as a Markdown document on github just to keep it >>> simple. >>> >>> - Finish the 2016 Application and Organization profile on Google >>> website. The questions are a little bit different from 2015 and we >>> should complete them. >>> Please find below the answers to the questions right now. >>> >>> I add in parenthesis, the number of words of each answers and the >>> maximum allowed. >>> >>> Please us to refine our answers. We need to wrote "guidance for students". >>> >>> Thank you. >>> >>> ========================================================================== >>> >>> Why does your org want to participate in Google Summer of Code? (898/1000) >>> >>> Supporting open-source projects is one of the most important >>> objectives of the Pharo community. Participating at GSoC will increase >>> the visibility of Pharo project efforts, thus favoring interactions >>> with other communities. We are also interested in providing >>> interesting projects to students allowing them to learn and have a fun >>> job for the summer. >>> >>> We expect also to bring more people into our community. That's very >>> interesting as the Pharo community is trying to be innovation-driven >>> and more open minded than the Smalltalk community from which we have >>> evolved. We want people from other communities to join ours and we are >>> also interested in what is happening outside and to share experiences >>> or ideas. Fortunately for us, dynamic languages like Python, Ruby, >>> among others, enjoy increasing popularity. This is an excellent >>> opportunity to join, show and learn from and with other communities. >>> >>> ========================================================================== >>> >>> How many potential mentors have agreed to mentor this year? >>> >>> 11-15 >>> >>> ========================================================================== >>> >>> How will you keep mentors engaged with their students? (668/1000) >>> >>> We chose mentors from people who are long time in our community and >>> have proven to be reliable. Usually we try to match mentors with >>> projects that are important for themselves. This means that the mentor >>> has an own interest in the project that the student doing it. Also we >>> try to ensure that there is a co-mentor for every project who can >>> replace the main mentor if needed. Also it is very important for us to >>> keep a good record and expand the community, and in previous years we >>> even managed to organize our own "summer code" programs for a couple >>> of students, so in the worst case we will find a replacement from the >>> core part of the community, or the board itself. >>> >>> ========================================================================== >>> How will you help your students stay on schedule to complete their >>> projects? (886/1000) >>> >>> As mentioned before we've already organized our own small "summer >>> code" programs, as usually we have more interested students than the >>> fundings that we can spend for them. However we acknowledge that >>> maintaining student's motivation is very important. We are a very open >>> and friendly community, and we encourage the students to take part on >>> the mailing list discussions from the beginning of their projects. >>> There is a specific pharo-users mailing-list more suitable for >>> beginners than the pharo-dev mailing-list. >>> Usually students get feedback and requests from the beginning of their >>> projects, and they have people interested in the prototypes as soon as >>> they are ready. From our experience having real users for the project >>> serves as the best motivation. Also our mentors try to maintain a >>> constructive and friendly discussion to ensure that the student enjoys >>> working on the project. >>> >>> ========================================================================== >>> >>> How will you get your students involved in your community during GSoC? >>> (608/1000) >>> >>> As mentioned above we encourage students to announce their status on >>> the mailing list as well as discuss questions on our Slack channel. We >>> also encourage them to write blogs about their project experience to >>> both promote themselves and give others an opportunity to familiarize >>> with the project more and share ideas between students. We are >>> organizing PharoDays every year (this year in Belgium, website: >>> http://pharodays2016.pharo.org) and we participate to the ESUG >>> (European Smalltalk User Group) conference in the end of each summer >>> and plan to invite the students of the best projects to present there. >>> >>> ========================================================================== >>> >>> Has your org been accepted as a mentoring org in Google Summer of Code before? >>> >>> Yes >>> >>> ========================================================================== >>> >>> Which years did your org participate in GSoC? >>> >>> - 2012 >>> - 2010 >>> - 2008 >>> - 2007 >>> >>> ========================================================================== >>> >>> What is your success/fail rate per year? >>> >>> - 2012: 10 projects pass / 3 fail >>> - 2010: 6 projects pass / 0 fail >>> - 2008: 5 projects pass / 0 fail >>> - 2007: 5 projects pass / 0 fail >>> >>> >>> ========================================================================== >>> >>> If your org has applied for GSoC before but not been accepted, select the years: >>> >>> - 2015 >>> - 2014 >>> - 2013 >>> >>> ========================================================================== >>> >>> What year was your project started? >>> >>> 2008 >>> >>> ========================================================================== >>> >>> Short description of Pharo (166/180) >>> >>> Pharo is a pure object-oriented programming language and IDE. We >>> innovate every part of the development experience to come up with the >>> best way to work with software. >>> >>> ========================================================================== >>> >>> Long description of Pharo (1401/2000) >>> >>> Pharo is a pure object-oriented programming languagea and IDE. >>> Pharo's goal is to minify the gap between the state of your mind and >>> the functionality of your application. Whether you are writing code, >>> debugging it, inspecting an object, hacking the runtime or tweaking >>> the IDE there should be nothing that stops you from engaging the >>> action with ease and grace. >>> >>> We work both on improving Pharo itself and on developing end user >>> applications in Pharo. Below you will see the highlights of most >>> prominent Pharo features. >>> >>> ### Simple & powerful language >>> No constructors, no types declaration, no interfaces, no primitive >>> types. Yet a powerful and elegant language with a full syntax fitting >>> in one postcard! Pharo is objects and messages all the way down. >>> >>> ### Feel a live environment >>> Feel the joy of having immediate feedback at any moment of your >>> development: Developing, testing, debugging. Even in production >>> environments, you will never be stuck in compiling and deploying steps >>> again! >>> >>> ### Amazing debugging experience >>> The Pharo environment includes a debugger unlike anything you've seen >>> before. It allows you to step through code, restart the execution of >>> methods, create methods on the fly, and much more! >>> >>> ### Pharo is yours >>> Pharo is made by an incredible community, with more than 80 >>> contributors for the last revision of the platform and hundreds of >>> people contributing constantly with frameworks and libraries. >>> >>> ========================================================================== >>> >>> Guidance for students on how to apply to your organization. Should >>> include any prerequisites or requirements. You may wish to include a >>> template or tips for their proposals. >>> >>> (0/1500) >>> >>> TBD >>> >>> ========================================================================== >>> >>> - >>> >>> Regards, >>> -- >>> Serge Stinckwich >>> UCBN & UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC) >>> Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk >>> http://www.doesnotunderstand.org/ >>> >> >> -- >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >> >> >> >> > > > > -- > Serge Stinckwich > UCBN & UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC) > Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk > http://www.doesnotunderstand.org/ > -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Feb. 17, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] What are immediate subclass and word variable subclass?

by Alexandre Bergel

Thanks, I have defined https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/17625/The-immediateSubclass-and-variableS… your comments are in a slice, waiting in the inbox Cheers, Alexandre > On Feb 17, 2016, at 1:54 PM, Damien Pollet <damien.pollet+pharo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Immediate means it's stored in the OOP itself, like SmallInteger in 32 bits. > Variable word is like variable byte (ByteArray) I suppose, variable size, with indices instead of named instance variables, but each index points to a full word (I guess either 32 or 64bit depending on the VM) > > On 17 February 2016 at 16:30, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: > Hi! > > I have stumbled on: > > Float immediateSubclass: #SmallFloat64 > instanceVariableNames: '' > classVariableNames: '' > package: 'Kernel-Numbersâ > > > Float variableWordSubclass: #BoxedFloat64 > instanceVariableNames: '' > classVariableNames: '' > package: 'Kernel-Numbersâ > > > What are immediate subclass and word variable? > > Cheers, > Alexandre > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Feb. 17, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] What are immediate subclass and word variable subclass?

by Alexandre Bergel

Makes sense. Thanks! Alexandre > On Feb 17, 2016, at 1:54 PM, Damien Pollet <damien.pollet+pharo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Immediate means it's stored in the OOP itself, like SmallInteger in 32 bits. > Variable word is like variable byte (ByteArray) I suppose, variable size, with indices instead of named instance variables, but each index points to a full word (I guess either 32 or 64bit depending on the VM) > > On 17 February 2016 at 16:30, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: > Hi! > > I have stumbled on: > > Float immediateSubclass: #SmallFloat64 > instanceVariableNames: '' > classVariableNames: '' > package: 'Kernel-Numbersâ > > > Float variableWordSubclass: #BoxedFloat64 > instanceVariableNames: '' > classVariableNames: '' > package: 'Kernel-Numbersâ > > > What are immediate subclass and word variable? > > Cheers, > Alexandre > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Feb. 17, 2016

Writing a dictionary as XML?

by phil＠highoctane.be

How can I write a dictionary (OrderPreservingDictionary) as an XML string? XMLWriter is more like a step by step thing. TIA Phil

Feb. 17, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] What are immediate subclass and word variable subclass?

by Damien Pollet

Immediate means it's stored in the OOP itself, like SmallInteger in 32 bits. Variable word is like variable byte (ByteArray) I suppose, variable size, with indices instead of named instance variables, but each index points to a full word (I guess either 32 or 64bit depending on the VM) On 17 February 2016 at 16:30, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: > Hi! > > I have stumbled on: > > Float immediateSubclass: #SmallFloat64 > instanceVariableNames: '' > classVariableNames: '' > package: 'Kernel-Numbersâ > > > Float variableWordSubclass: #BoxedFloat64 > instanceVariableNames: '' > classVariableNames: '' > package: 'Kernel-Numbersâ > > > What are immediate subclass and word variable? > > Cheers, > Alexandre > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > >

Feb. 17, 2016

rollToArity: ?

by Alexandre Bergel

Esteban, What Object>>rollToArity: is supposed to do? It belongs to UnifiedFFI Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Feb. 17, 2016

What are immediate subclass and word variable subclass?

by Alexandre Bergel

Hi! I have stumbled on: Float immediateSubclass: #SmallFloat64 instanceVariableNames: '' classVariableNames: '' package: 'Kernel-Numbersâ Float variableWordSubclass: #BoxedFloat64 instanceVariableNames: '' classVariableNames: '' package: 'Kernel-Numbersâ What are immediate subclass and word variable? Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Feb. 17, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] gtoolkit 3.10 overview

by Tudor Girba

Hi, Indeed, the settings sending unknown messages is a problem, but that is a problem that is not related to Spotter. If you get it with Spotter settings, you will get it with all other settings as well. The settings mechanism should be more robust in my opinion. Cheers, Doru > On Feb 17, 2016, at 2:14 PM, Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > Hi Tudor, > > Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> writes: > >> I promised to send a summary of the larger changes that came with the recent integration of GToolkit 3.10. Here it is: >> http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/gtoolkit-3-10/ > > thank you for the detailed changelog. Please pay attention to the > Settings system. I have the impression that what you did might forbid > you to remove any extension in the future. What I see happening is that: > > 1. people start deactivating some extensions through the Settings > > 2. they write their Settings in a file so the settings are available for > all images > > 3. in this file, settings are deactivated with Smalltalk code that send > setting-specific messages to specific objects > > 4. you decide to remove an extension and remove the corresponding > setting method > > 5. the user downloads the new Pharo and gets an error because his > setting file sends messages that are not understood anymore. > > -- > Damien Cassou > http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st > > "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without > losing enthusiasm." --Winston Churchill -- www.tudorgirba.com www.feenk.com "Value is always contextual."

Feb. 17, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] GSOC 2016 Application update

by Serge Stinckwich

Thank you Alex. Can you have a look to your previous ideas proposal and update them ? On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 2:44 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: > Thanks Serge! This is a very important effort you are leading > > Alexandre > > >> On Feb 17, 2016, at 5:27 AM, Serge Stinckwich <serge.stinckwich(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Dear all, >> >> just a quick update to GSOC application of Pharo this year >> >> - We have enough topics I guess. I already send a reminder on the >> various mailing-list. >> List of topics here: >> https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-project-proposals/blob/master/Topics… >> >> We have to generate the html from the topics list and put the result >> on the gsoc.pharo,org website. I ask Uko to have a look to this, but I >> don't want to loose to much time on this. I was wondering if we should >> transform the list as a Markdown document on github just to keep it >> simple. >> >> - Finish the 2016 Application and Organization profile on Google >> website. The questions are a little bit different from 2015 and we >> should complete them. >> Please find below the answers to the questions right now. >> >> I add in parenthesis, the number of words of each answers and the >> maximum allowed. >> >> Please us to refine our answers. We need to wrote "guidance for students". >> >> Thank you. >> >> ========================================================================== >> >> Why does your org want to participate in Google Summer of Code? (898/1000) >> >> Supporting open-source projects is one of the most important >> objectives of the Pharo community. Participating at GSoC will increase >> the visibility of Pharo project efforts, thus favoring interactions >> with other communities. We are also interested in providing >> interesting projects to students allowing them to learn and have a fun >> job for the summer. >> >> We expect also to bring more people into our community. That's very >> interesting as the Pharo community is trying to be innovation-driven >> and more open minded than the Smalltalk community from which we have >> evolved. We want people from other communities to join ours and we are >> also interested in what is happening outside and to share experiences >> or ideas. Fortunately for us, dynamic languages like Python, Ruby, >> among others, enjoy increasing popularity. This is an excellent >> opportunity to join, show and learn from and with other communities. >> >> ========================================================================== >> >> How many potential mentors have agreed to mentor this year? >> >> 11-15 >> >> ========================================================================== >> >> How will you keep mentors engaged with their students? (668/1000) >> >> We chose mentors from people who are long time in our community and >> have proven to be reliable. Usually we try to match mentors with >> projects that are important for themselves. This means that the mentor >> has an own interest in the project that the student doing it. Also we >> try to ensure that there is a co-mentor for every project who can >> replace the main mentor if needed. Also it is very important for us to >> keep a good record and expand the community, and in previous years we >> even managed to organize our own "summer code" programs for a couple >> of students, so in the worst case we will find a replacement from the >> core part of the community, or the board itself. >> >> ========================================================================== >> How will you help your students stay on schedule to complete their >> projects? (886/1000) >> >> As mentioned before we've already organized our own small "summer >> code" programs, as usually we have more interested students than the >> fundings that we can spend for them. However we acknowledge that >> maintaining student's motivation is very important. We are a very open >> and friendly community, and we encourage the students to take part on >> the mailing list discussions from the beginning of their projects. >> There is a specific pharo-users mailing-list more suitable for >> beginners than the pharo-dev mailing-list. >> Usually students get feedback and requests from the beginning of their >> projects, and they have people interested in the prototypes as soon as >> they are ready. From our experience having real users for the project >> serves as the best motivation. Also our mentors try to maintain a >> constructive and friendly discussion to ensure that the student enjoys >> working on the project. >> >> ========================================================================== >> >> How will you get your students involved in your community during GSoC? >> (608/1000) >> >> As mentioned above we encourage students to announce their status on >> the mailing list as well as discuss questions on our Slack channel. We >> also encourage them to write blogs about their project experience to >> both promote themselves and give others an opportunity to familiarize >> with the project more and share ideas between students. We are >> organizing PharoDays every year (this year in Belgium, website: >> http://pharodays2016.pharo.org) and we participate to the ESUG >> (European Smalltalk User Group) conference in the end of each summer >> and plan to invite the students of the best projects to present there. >> >> ========================================================================== >> >> Has your org been accepted as a mentoring org in Google Summer of Code before? >> >> Yes >> >> ========================================================================== >> >> Which years did your org participate in GSoC? >> >> - 2012 >> - 2010 >> - 2008 >> - 2007 >> >> ========================================================================== >> >> What is your success/fail rate per year? >> >> - 2012: 10 projects pass / 3 fail >> - 2010: 6 projects pass / 0 fail >> - 2008: 5 projects pass / 0 fail >> - 2007: 5 projects pass / 0 fail >> >> >> ========================================================================== >> >> If your org has applied for GSoC before but not been accepted, select the years: >> >> - 2015 >> - 2014 >> - 2013 >> >> ========================================================================== >> >> What year was your project started? >> >> 2008 >> >> ========================================================================== >> >> Short description of Pharo (166/180) >> >> Pharo is a pure object-oriented programming language and IDE. We >> innovate every part of the development experience to come up with the >> best way to work with software. >> >> ========================================================================== >> >> Long description of Pharo (1401/2000) >> >> Pharo is a pure object-oriented programming languagea and IDE. >> Pharo's goal is to minify the gap between the state of your mind and >> the functionality of your application. Whether you are writing code, >> debugging it, inspecting an object, hacking the runtime or tweaking >> the IDE there should be nothing that stops you from engaging the >> action with ease and grace. >> >> We work both on improving Pharo itself and on developing end user >> applications in Pharo. Below you will see the highlights of most >> prominent Pharo features. >> >> ### Simple & powerful language >> No constructors, no types declaration, no interfaces, no primitive >> types. Yet a powerful and elegant language with a full syntax fitting >> in one postcard! Pharo is objects and messages all the way down. >> >> ### Feel a live environment >> Feel the joy of having immediate feedback at any moment of your >> development: Developing, testing, debugging. Even in production >> environments, you will never be stuck in compiling and deploying steps >> again! >> >> ### Amazing debugging experience >> The Pharo environment includes a debugger unlike anything you've seen >> before. It allows you to step through code, restart the execution of >> methods, create methods on the fly, and much more! >> >> ### Pharo is yours >> Pharo is made by an incredible community, with more than 80 >> contributors for the last revision of the platform and hundreds of >> people contributing constantly with frameworks and libraries. >> >> ========================================================================== >> >> Guidance for students on how to apply to your organization. Should >> include any prerequisites or requirements. You may wish to include a >> template or tips for their proposals. >> >> (0/1500) >> >> TBD >> >> ========================================================================== >> >> - >> >> Regards, >> -- >> Serge Stinckwich >> UCBN & UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC) >> Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk >> http://www.doesnotunderstand.org/ >> > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > -- Serge Stinckwich UCBN & UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC) Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk http://www.doesnotunderstand.org/

Feb. 17, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] GSOC 2016 Application update

by Tudor Girba

Thanks, indeed! Doru > On Feb 17, 2016, at 2:44 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: > > Thanks Serge! This is a very important effort you are leading > > Alexandre > > >> On Feb 17, 2016, at 5:27 AM, Serge Stinckwich <serge.stinckwich(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Dear all, >> >> just a quick update to GSOC application of Pharo this year >> >> - We have enough topics I guess. I already send a reminder on the >> various mailing-list. >> List of topics here: >> https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-project-proposals/blob/master/Topics… >> >> We have to generate the html from the topics list and put the result >> on the gsoc.pharo,org website. I ask Uko to have a look to this, but I >> don't want to loose to much time on this. I was wondering if we should >> transform the list as a Markdown document on github just to keep it >> simple. >> >> - Finish the 2016 Application and Organization profile on Google >> website. The questions are a little bit different from 2015 and we >> should complete them. >> Please find below the answers to the questions right now. >> >> I add in parenthesis, the number of words of each answers and the >> maximum allowed. >> >> Please us to refine our answers. We need to wrote "guidance for students". >> >> Thank you. >> >> ========================================================================== >> >> Why does your org want to participate in Google Summer of Code? (898/1000) >> >> Supporting open-source projects is one of the most important >> objectives of the Pharo community. Participating at GSoC will increase >> the visibility of Pharo project efforts, thus favoring interactions >> with other communities. We are also interested in providing >> interesting projects to students allowing them to learn and have a fun >> job for the summer. >> >> We expect also to bring more people into our community. That's very >> interesting as the Pharo community is trying to be innovation-driven >> and more open minded than the Smalltalk community from which we have >> evolved. We want people from other communities to join ours and we are >> also interested in what is happening outside and to share experiences >> or ideas. Fortunately for us, dynamic languages like Python, Ruby, >> among others, enjoy increasing popularity. This is an excellent >> opportunity to join, show and learn from and with other communities. >> >> ========================================================================== >> >> How many potential mentors have agreed to mentor this year? >> >> 11-15 >> >> ========================================================================== >> >> How will you keep mentors engaged with their students? (668/1000) >> >> We chose mentors from people who are long time in our community and >> have proven to be reliable. Usually we try to match mentors with >> projects that are important for themselves. This means that the mentor >> has an own interest in the project that the student doing it. Also we >> try to ensure that there is a co-mentor for every project who can >> replace the main mentor if needed. Also it is very important for us to >> keep a good record and expand the community, and in previous years we >> even managed to organize our own "summer code" programs for a couple >> of students, so in the worst case we will find a replacement from the >> core part of the community, or the board itself. >> >> ========================================================================== >> How will you help your students stay on schedule to complete their >> projects? (886/1000) >> >> As mentioned before we've already organized our own small "summer >> code" programs, as usually we have more interested students than the >> fundings that we can spend for them. However we acknowledge that >> maintaining student's motivation is very important. We are a very open >> and friendly community, and we encourage the students to take part on >> the mailing list discussions from the beginning of their projects. >> There is a specific pharo-users mailing-list more suitable for >> beginners than the pharo-dev mailing-list. >> Usually students get feedback and requests from the beginning of their >> projects, and they have people interested in the prototypes as soon as >> they are ready. From our experience having real users for the project >> serves as the best motivation. Also our mentors try to maintain a >> constructive and friendly discussion to ensure that the student enjoys >> working on the project. >> >> ========================================================================== >> >> How will you get your students involved in your community during GSoC? >> (608/1000) >> >> As mentioned above we encourage students to announce their status on >> the mailing list as well as discuss questions on our Slack channel. We >> also encourage them to write blogs about their project experience to >> both promote themselves and give others an opportunity to familiarize >> with the project more and share ideas between students. We are >> organizing PharoDays every year (this year in Belgium, website: >> http://pharodays2016.pharo.org) and we participate to the ESUG >> (European Smalltalk User Group) conference in the end of each summer >> and plan to invite the students of the best projects to present there. >> >> ========================================================================== >> >> Has your org been accepted as a mentoring org in Google Summer of Code before? >> >> Yes >> >> ========================================================================== >> >> Which years did your org participate in GSoC? >> >> - 2012 >> - 2010 >> - 2008 >> - 2007 >> >> ========================================================================== >> >> What is your success/fail rate per year? >> >> - 2012: 10 projects pass / 3 fail >> - 2010: 6 projects pass / 0 fail >> - 2008: 5 projects pass / 0 fail >> - 2007: 5 projects pass / 0 fail >> >> >> ========================================================================== >> >> If your org has applied for GSoC before but not been accepted, select the years: >> >> - 2015 >> - 2014 >> - 2013 >> >> ========================================================================== >> >> What year was your project started? >> >> 2008 >> >> ========================================================================== >> >> Short description of Pharo (166/180) >> >> Pharo is a pure object-oriented programming language and IDE. We >> innovate every part of the development experience to come up with the >> best way to work with software. >> >> ========================================================================== >> >> Long description of Pharo (1401/2000) >> >> Pharo is a pure object-oriented programming languagea and IDE. >> Pharo's goal is to minify the gap between the state of your mind and >> the functionality of your application. Whether you are writing code, >> debugging it, inspecting an object, hacking the runtime or tweaking >> the IDE there should be nothing that stops you from engaging the >> action with ease and grace. >> >> We work both on improving Pharo itself and on developing end user >> applications in Pharo. Below you will see the highlights of most >> prominent Pharo features. >> >> ### Simple & powerful language >> No constructors, no types declaration, no interfaces, no primitive >> types. Yet a powerful and elegant language with a full syntax fitting >> in one postcard! Pharo is objects and messages all the way down. >> >> ### Feel a live environment >> Feel the joy of having immediate feedback at any moment of your >> development: Developing, testing, debugging. Even in production >> environments, you will never be stuck in compiling and deploying steps >> again! >> >> ### Amazing debugging experience >> The Pharo environment includes a debugger unlike anything you've seen >> before. It allows you to step through code, restart the execution of >> methods, create methods on the fly, and much more! >> >> ### Pharo is yours >> Pharo is made by an incredible community, with more than 80 >> contributors for the last revision of the platform and hundreds of >> people contributing constantly with frameworks and libraries. >> >> ========================================================================== >> >> Guidance for students on how to apply to your organization. Should >> include any prerequisites or requirements. You may wish to include a >> template or tips for their proposals. >> >> (0/1500) >> >> TBD >> >> ========================================================================== >> >> - >> >> Regards, >> -- >> Serge Stinckwich >> UCBN & UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC) >> Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk >> http://www.doesnotunderstand.org/ >> > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > -- www.tudorgirba.com www.feenk.com "Some battles are better lost than fought."

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