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Re: [Pharo-users] Help with trying to publish my project in the Pharo Catalog

by Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas

Thanks Alexandre! Next time I will try help first and then make questions refering to it. Cheers, Offray On 23/02/16 04:54, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > Just for info, I have written an Help, available in the base image. Just open the Help browser > > Alexandre > > >> On Feb 22, 2016, at 11:05 PM, Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas <offray.luna(a)mutabit.com> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> We will have our first half data week[1] from Thursday 25 Feb to Saturday 27 Feb, and I would like to ease the grafoscopio's installation by making it available via the Pharo catalog. I have followed the video at [1] and published my stable configurationOfGrafoscopio, but I can't see it on http://catalog.pharo.org/ despite of giving it the proper time to the process to run (it runs at 6 pm Colombian time). >> >> [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5Dbmmln8tA >> >> I think that I have followed properly the instructions but I don't know what I'm missing and I'm a little worried about the catalog generation being run 24 four hours, which gives me only two more attempts to know what I'm doing wrong before the event starts. How can I check that the publishing procedure was fine? >> >> In a related matter, How can I made the installation procedure to run something at the end of it, like "GrafoscopioBrowser startDockingBar", so the new interface elements inform the user about a proper installation? >> >> Of course I could try the previous ways to install and use grafoscopio, but I think that making it smoother on each workshop/hackathon is better (the problem is that most of these ideas come while the event is getting closer). >> >> Cheers, >> >> Offray >>

Feb. 23, 2016

curiousity, ensure unwind block priority inheritance

by Ben Coman

Just thought I'd share something enlightening I learnt today, a curious surprise... When a process is terminated, the #ensure: unwind block effectively inherits the priority of the terminator process. Thus the following... log := OrderedCollection new. s := Semaphore new. p := [ [ log add: 1. s signal. log add: 4. ] ensure: [log add: 5] ] forkAt: 30. s wait. log add: 2. "p terminate." log add: 3. 100 milliSeconds wait. Transcript crShow: log. ...gives {1 2 3 4 5} as expected. However uncommenting the terminate statement produces {1 2 5 3}. Quite non-intuitive** to have the "5" code inside the priority 30 block execute before the "3" code of the priority 40 of the UI/Playground. **meaning it bit me for a few hours trying to understand some ProcessTests related to Case 17588. cheers -ben

Feb. 23, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] Help with trying to publish my project in the Pharo Catalog

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 12:22 AM, Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas < offray.luna(a)mutabit.com> wrote: > Thanks Mariano for your quick answer, > > I had to be quick, otherwise wouldn't be useful ;) > Effectively I had not commited to meta repos for Pharo. Video tutorials at > [1] and [2] or documentation at [3] doesn't emphasize enough (at least not > on my newbie perspective) the proper choosing of MetaRepoForPharo40 (or 5) > to make your project show at the catalog, despite of being the repo of > choice at the 1:59" of [1], so would be nice to put it in [3]. I think that > I have done it for the MetaRepoForPharo40 because I didn't find > MetaRepoForPharo50 as an available option and I don't know how to add it. > > [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5Dbmmln8tA > [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFRJDuWL-Q0 > [3] the http://catalog.pharo.org/catalog/note-for-developers > Yes, I agree. I also noted that... [3] should make it explicit and at least show a few meta repos urls examples > > Could you please check if configurationOfGrafscopio is now on > MetaRepoForPharo40 (and tell me how can I check it by myself) and point me > to some documentation on how to make MetaRepoForPharo50 available in the > repositories? > > I simply opened the Monticello Browser, added the repository: MCSmalltalkhubRepository owner: 'Pharo' project: 'MetaRepoForPharo40' user: '' password: '' And open it :) I just checked yours and seems it is there and seems correct. To push it to 5.0 you simply need to copy the ConfigurationOfXXX to MetaRepoForPharo50... but....be careful as Catalog tool will always load #stable: version....so you must be sure that #stable: works in each of the repos where you publish your conf. > I will be trying to create some Spanish documentation notes on the > grafoscopio fossil wiki[4] on all this community tips and advice while > preparing and making the data week (and after) so it can help another > newbies and learners on Pharo/Smalltalk. > Buenisimo! > > [4] http://mutabit.com/repos.fossil/grafoscopio/ > > Cheers, > > Offray > > > On 22/02/16 21:11, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > Hi Offray, > > I don't see the package ConfigurationOfGrafoscopio commited either in MetaRepoForPharo50 > or MetaRepoForPharo40. Did you copy the ConfigurationOfGrafoscopio into > the desired meta repositories? > > Cheers, > > On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 11:05 PM, Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas < > <offray.luna(a)mutabit.com>offray.luna(a)mutabit.com> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> We will have our first half data week[1] from Thursday 25 Feb to Saturday >> 27 Feb, and I would like to ease the grafoscopio's installation by making >> it available via the Pharo catalog. I have followed the video at [1] and >> published my stable configurationOfGrafoscopio, but I can't see it on >> http://catalog.pharo.org/ despite of giving it the proper time to the >> process to run (it runs at 6 pm Colombian time). >> >> [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5Dbmmln8tA >> >> I think that I have followed properly the instructions but I don't know >> what I'm missing and I'm a little worried about the catalog generation >> being run 24 four hours, which gives me only two more attempts to know what >> I'm doing wrong before the event starts. How can I check that the >> publishing procedure was fine? >> >> In a related matter, How can I made the installation procedure to run >> something at the end of it, like "GrafoscopioBrowser startDockingBar", so >> the new interface elements inform the user about a proper installation? >> >> Of course I could try the previous ways to install and use grafoscopio, >> but I think that making it smoother on each workshop/hackathon is better >> (the problem is that most of these ideas come while the event is getting >> closer). >> >> Cheers, >> >> Offray >> >> > > > -- > Mariano > http://marianopeck.wordpress.com > > > -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

Feb. 23, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] What are immediate subclass and word variable subclass?

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

Currently, modified class comments are not loaded, so don't bother trying to improve them > On 23 Feb 2016, at 10:55, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: > > I do not understand, is this related to the improved comment I have submitted? > > Alexandre > > >> On Feb 21, 2016, at 12:14 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: >> >> We have a bug where class comment fail to load ;-) >> >> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/17655/Changes-in-package-loading-behavior >> >>> On 21 Feb 2016, at 15:21, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: >>> >>> Done! >>> Waiting for Marcus :-) >>> >>> Alexandre >>> >>> >>>> On Feb 18, 2016, at 6:29 PM, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: >>>> >>>> Thanks Alex >>>> can you add the answer of eliot to the comments? >>>> >>>> >>>> Le 17/2/16 18:59, Alexandre Bergel a Ã©crit : >>>>> Thanks, I have defined >>>>> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/17625/The-immediateSubclass-and-variableS… >>>>> >>>>> your comments are in a slice, waiting in the inbox >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Alexandre >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Feb 17, 2016, at 1:54 PM, Damien Pollet <damien.pollet+pharo(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Immediate means it's stored in the OOP itself, like SmallInteger in 32 bits. >>>>>> Variable word is like variable byte (ByteArray) I suppose, variable size, with indices instead of named instance variables, but each index points to a full word (I guess either 32 or 64bit depending on the VM) >>>>>> >>>>>> On 17 February 2016 at 16:30, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: >>>>>> Hi! >>>>>> >>>>>> I have stumbled on: >>>>>> >>>>>> Float immediateSubclass: #SmallFloat64 >>>>>> instanceVariableNames: '' >>>>>> classVariableNames: '' >>>>>> package: 'Kernel-Numbersâ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Float variableWordSubclass: #BoxedFloat64 >>>>>> instanceVariableNames: '' >>>>>> classVariableNames: '' >>>>>> package: 'Kernel-Numbersâ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> What are immediate subclass and word variable? >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Alexandre >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>>>>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>>>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > >

Feb. 23, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] What are immediate subclass and word variable subclass?

by Alexandre Bergel

I do not understand, is this related to the improved comment I have submitted? Alexandre > On Feb 21, 2016, at 12:14 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: > > We have a bug where class comment fail to load ;-) > > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/17655/Changes-in-package-loading-behavior > >> On 21 Feb 2016, at 15:21, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: >> >> Done! >> Waiting for Marcus :-) >> >> Alexandre >> >> >>> On Feb 18, 2016, at 6:29 PM, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: >>> >>> Thanks Alex >>> can you add the answer of eliot to the comments? >>> >>> >>> Le 17/2/16 18:59, Alexandre Bergel a Ã©crit : >>>> Thanks, I have defined >>>> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/17625/The-immediateSubclass-and-variableS… >>>> >>>> your comments are in a slice, waiting in the inbox >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Alexandre >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Feb 17, 2016, at 1:54 PM, Damien Pollet <damien.pollet+pharo(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Immediate means it's stored in the OOP itself, like SmallInteger in 32 bits. >>>>> Variable word is like variable byte (ByteArray) I suppose, variable size, with indices instead of named instance variables, but each index points to a full word (I guess either 32 or 64bit depending on the VM) >>>>> >>>>> On 17 February 2016 at 16:30, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: >>>>> Hi! >>>>> >>>>> I have stumbled on: >>>>> >>>>> Float immediateSubclass: #SmallFloat64 >>>>> instanceVariableNames: '' >>>>> classVariableNames: '' >>>>> package: 'Kernel-Numbersâ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Float variableWordSubclass: #BoxedFloat64 >>>>> instanceVariableNames: '' >>>>> classVariableNames: '' >>>>> package: 'Kernel-Numbersâ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> What are immediate subclass and word variable? >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Alexandre >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>>>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >> >> -- >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >> >> >> >> > > -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Feb. 23, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] Help with trying to publish my project in the Pharo Catalog

by Alexandre Bergel

Just for info, I have written an Help, available in the base image. Just open the Help browser Alexandre > On Feb 22, 2016, at 11:05 PM, Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas <offray.luna(a)mutabit.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > We will have our first half data week[1] from Thursday 25 Feb to Saturday 27 Feb, and I would like to ease the grafoscopio's installation by making it available via the Pharo catalog. I have followed the video at [1] and published my stable configurationOfGrafoscopio, but I can't see it on http://catalog.pharo.org/ despite of giving it the proper time to the process to run (it runs at 6 pm Colombian time). > > [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5Dbmmln8tA > > I think that I have followed properly the instructions but I don't know what I'm missing and I'm a little worried about the catalog generation being run 24 four hours, which gives me only two more attempts to know what I'm doing wrong before the event starts. How can I check that the publishing procedure was fine? > > In a related matter, How can I made the installation procedure to run something at the end of it, like "GrafoscopioBrowser startDockingBar", so the new interface elements inform the user about a proper installation? > > Of course I could try the previous ways to install and use grafoscopio, but I think that making it smoother on each workshop/hackathon is better (the problem is that most of these ideas come while the event is getting closer). > > Cheers, > > Offray > -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Feb. 23, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] how to import a grammar file into Pharo

by John Pfersich

Personally, l wish for a new ANSI Smalltalk group to convene to extend the standard to more areas of the language. I know it's a pipe dream, but it sure would be nice. Sent from my iPad > On Feb 22, 2016, at 23:36, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: > > pay attention VW code is not Pharo code. > > Le 21/2/16 22:22, Jen D'Souza a Ã©crit : >> Greetings all, >> >> I'd really appreciate if someone could guide me through importing PetitIsland.st (http://mucca.inf.usi.ch/source-code.html) into Pharo and parsing a text file containing a mix of code and natural language with the resulting parser. >> >> Thanks in advance! >> >> Jen >

Feb. 23, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] how to import a grammar file into Pharo

by stepharo

pay attention VW code is not Pharo code. Le 21/2/16 22:22, Jen D'Souza a Ã©crit : > Greetings all, > > I'd really appreciate if someone could guide me through importing > PetitIsland.st (http://mucca.inf.usi.ch/source-code.html) into Pharo > and parsing a text file containing a mix of code and natural language > with the resulting parser. > > Thanks in advance! > > Jen

Feb. 23, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] Help with trying to publish my project in the Pharo Catalog

by Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas

Thanks Mariano for your quick answer, Effectively I had not commited to meta repos for Pharo. Video tutorials at [1] and [2] or documentation at [3] doesn't emphasize enough (at least not on my newbie perspective) the proper choosing of MetaRepoForPharo40 (or 5) to make your project show at the catalog, despite of being the repo of choice at the 1:59" of [1], so would be nice to put it in [3]. I think that I have done it for the MetaRepoForPharo40 because I didn't find MetaRepoForPharo50 as an available option and I don't know how to add it. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5Dbmmln8tA [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFRJDuWL-Q0 [3] the http://catalog.pharo.org/catalog/note-for-developers Could you please check if configurationOfGrafscopio is now on MetaRepoForPharo40 (and tell me how can I check it by myself) and point me to some documentation on how to make MetaRepoForPharo50 available in the repositories? I will be trying to create some Spanish documentation notes on the grafoscopio fossil wiki[4] on all this community tips and advice while preparing and making the data week (and after) so it can help another newbies and learners on Pharo/Smalltalk. [4] http://mutabit.com/repos.fossil/grafoscopio/ Cheers, Offray On 22/02/16 21:11, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > Hi Offray, > > I don't see the package ConfigurationOfGrafoscopio commited either in > MetaRepoForPharo50 or MetaRepoForPharo40. Did you copy the > ConfigurationOfGrafoscopio into the desired meta repositories? > > Cheers, > > On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 11:05 PM, Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas > <offray.luna(a)mutabit.com <mailto:offray.luna@mutabit.com>> wrote: > > Hi, > > We will have our first half data week[1] from Thursday 25 Feb to > Saturday 27 Feb, and I would like to ease the grafoscopio's > installation by making it available via the Pharo catalog. I have > followed the video at [1] and published my stable > configurationOfGrafoscopio, but I can't see it on > http://catalog.pharo.org/ despite of giving it the proper time to > the process to run (it runs at 6 pm Colombian time). > > [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5Dbmmln8tA > > I think that I have followed properly the instructions but I don't > know what I'm missing and I'm a little worried about the catalog > generation being run 24 four hours, which gives me only two more > attempts to know what I'm doing wrong before the event starts. How > can I check that the publishing procedure was fine? > > In a related matter, How can I made the installation procedure to > run something at the end of it, like "GrafoscopioBrowser > startDockingBar", so the new interface elements inform the user > about a proper installation? > > Of course I could try the previous ways to install and use > grafoscopio, but I think that making it smoother on each > workshop/hackathon is better (the problem is that most of these > ideas come while the event is getting closer). > > Cheers, > > Offray > > > > > -- > Mariano > http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

Feb. 23, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] Help with trying to publish my project in the Pharo Catalog

by Mariano Martinez Peck

Hi Offray, I don't see the package ConfigurationOfGrafoscopio commited either in MetaRepoForPharo50 or MetaRepoForPharo40. Did you copy the ConfigurationOfGrafoscopio into the desired meta repositories? Cheers, On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 11:05 PM, Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas < offray.luna(a)mutabit.com> wrote: > Hi, > > We will have our first half data week[1] from Thursday 25 Feb to Saturday > 27 Feb, and I would like to ease the grafoscopio's installation by making > it available via the Pharo catalog. I have followed the video at [1] and > published my stable configurationOfGrafoscopio, but I can't see it on > http://catalog.pharo.org/ despite of giving it the proper time to the > process to run (it runs at 6 pm Colombian time). > > [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5Dbmmln8tA > > I think that I have followed properly the instructions but I don't know > what I'm missing and I'm a little worried about the catalog generation > being run 24 four hours, which gives me only two more attempts to know what > I'm doing wrong before the event starts. How can I check that the > publishing procedure was fine? > > In a related matter, How can I made the installation procedure to run > something at the end of it, like "GrafoscopioBrowser startDockingBar", so > the new interface elements inform the user about a proper installation? > > Of course I could try the previous ways to install and use grafoscopio, > but I think that making it smoother on each workshop/hackathon is better > (the problem is that most of these ideas come while the event is getting > closer). > > Cheers, > > Offray > > -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

Feb. 23, 2016