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Re: [Pharo-users] help needed for testing the order in spotter

by Tudor Girba

Hi, > On Feb 24, 2016, at 11:24 AM, Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> writes: > >> Hi, >> >> We need a bit of help with testing the order in Spotter. We do not have a real solution yet, but the current one should improve the situation. >> >> We need a bit of feedback for this one: >> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/17656/Spotter-should-sort-search-results >> >> Essentially, you would need to load the latest GT-Spotter and GT-SpotterExtensions-Core and let us know if it works better for spotting implementors or classes. > > I have the impression this is already in the image. It seems to be > working fine. Next time, it might help if you could just give us a Pharo > expression that loads the patch. Indeed, it is now in the image. Unfortunately, there was no feedback :(. I will do it better next time. I just thought that given the urgency with which issues were reported, people would have been more eager to test, so I hurried up :). Cheers, Doru > -- > Damien Cassou > http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st > > "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without > losing enthusiasm." --Winston Churchill -- www.tudorgirba.com www.feenk.com "Quality cannot be an afterthought."

Feb. 24, 2016

A Spec widget to hold non-editable multi-lines text?

by Julien Delplanque

Hello, I wonder if there is a Spec widget to hold non-editable multi-line text? There is TextInputFieldModel but the text is editable. Thanks in advance, Julien

Feb. 24, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] What are immediate subclass and word variable subclass?

by Marcus Denker

Hello, Here is the fix: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/17687/fix-changing-class-comments-does-no… <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/17687/fix-changing-class-comments-does-no…> (Done in a time that I should have done something elseâ¦) > On 24 Feb 2016, at 12:06, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > I will fix it todayâ¦ I hope. > > >> On 24 Feb 2016, at 12:00, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: >> >> ??? >> >> Class comments cannot be improved then? >> Well... >> >> Alexandre >> >> >>> On Feb 23, 2016, at 10:59 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: >>> >>> Currently, modified class comments are not loaded, so don't bother trying to improve them >>> >>>> On 23 Feb 2016, at 10:55, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> I do not understand, is this related to the improved comment I have submitted? >>>> >>>> Alexandre >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Feb 21, 2016, at 12:14 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> We have a bug where class comment fail to load ;-) >>>>> >>>>> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/17655/Changes-in-package-loading-behavior >>>>> >>>>>> On 21 Feb 2016, at 15:21, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Done! >>>>>> Waiting for Marcus :-) >>>>>> >>>>>> Alexandre >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Feb 18, 2016, at 6:29 PM, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks Alex >>>>>>> can you add the answer of eliot to the comments? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Le 17/2/16 18:59, Alexandre Bergel a Ã©crit : >>>>>>>> Thanks, I have defined >>>>>>>> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/17625/The-immediateSubclass-and-variableS… >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> your comments are in a slice, waiting in the inbox >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>> Alexandre >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Feb 17, 2016, at 1:54 PM, Damien Pollet <damien.pollet+pharo(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Immediate means it's stored in the OOP itself, like SmallInteger in 32 bits. >>>>>>>>> Variable word is like variable byte (ByteArray) I suppose, variable size, with indices instead of named instance variables, but each index points to a full word (I guess either 32 or 64bit depending on the VM) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 17 February 2016 at 16:30, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> Hi! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I have stumbled on: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Float immediateSubclass: #SmallFloat64 >>>>>>>>> instanceVariableNames: '' >>>>>>>>> classVariableNames: '' >>>>>>>>> package: 'Kernel-Numbersâ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Float variableWordSubclass: #BoxedFloat64 >>>>>>>>> instanceVariableNames: '' >>>>>>>>> classVariableNames: '' >>>>>>>>> package: 'Kernel-Numbersâ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> What are immediate subclass and word variable? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>> Alexandre >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>>>>>>>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>>>>>>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>>>>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>>>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> -- >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >> >> >> >> >

Feb. 24, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] [Moose-dev] Call for action for Roassal

by Alexandre Bergel

>> Dear community, >> What are the 3 aspects you would like to see improved in Roassal? > > My favorite improvement would not really be a Roassal feature > but would save me a lot of time: > I would like the configuration versions to stop depending on numbered versions of outside dependencies (Glamour, Neo-JSON-Core) Hi! I do not get this. Relying on the baseline is not enough? Roassal is very simply packaged. Only 4 packages: Roassal, Trachel, Roassal2Spec, Roassal2GT. It is very unlikely that this list of package will grow (not until we have a Git integration at least). You can make your configuration directly point to these packages no? Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Feb. 24, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] Call for action for Roassal

by Cyril Ferlicot Delbecque

On 24/02/2016 12:42, stepharo wrote: > Great call and initiative. > > I would like see > - better arrows (this is related also to the third point) > - get the graphViz algo finished (even if not fully working) Anne > and guillaume got lost in translation there > but it would be a real game changer. > - having a better output (arrows, edge) and animation (like the web > library Telescope is using to render visualisation on the web) > Guillaume knows it name. (Guillaume what is the name of the library > you use) > http://js.cytoscape.org/ > > Stef > > -- Cyril Ferlicot http://www.synectique.eu 165 Avenue Bretagne Lille 59000 France

Feb. 24, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] Call for action for Roassal

by stepharo

Great call and initiative. I would like see - better arrows (this is related also to the third point) - get the graphViz algo finished (even if not fully working) Anne and guillaume got lost in translation there but it would be a real game changer. - having a better output (arrows, edge) and animation (like the web library Telescope is using to render visualisation on the web) Guillaume knows it name. (Guillaume what is the name of the library you use) Stef Le 24/2/16 09:51, Alexandre Bergel a Ã©crit : > Dear community, > > As you may have seen, Roassal has entered a stabilization phase. The book AgileVisualization.com will soon be released. After its release, Roassal will go over a new development phase. In order to prepare it, I am asking this question: > > What are the 3 aspects you would like to see improved in Roassal? > > You can answer publicly or by sending private messages. > > Kind regards, > Alexandre

Feb. 24, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] What are immediate subclass and word variable subclass?

by Marcus Denker

I will fix it todayâ¦ I hope. > On 24 Feb 2016, at 12:00, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: > > ??? > > Class comments cannot be improved then? > Well... > > Alexandre > > >> On Feb 23, 2016, at 10:59 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: >> >> Currently, modified class comments are not loaded, so don't bother trying to improve them >> >>> On 23 Feb 2016, at 10:55, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: >>> >>> I do not understand, is this related to the improved comment I have submitted? >>> >>> Alexandre >>> >>> >>>> On Feb 21, 2016, at 12:14 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: >>>> >>>> We have a bug where class comment fail to load ;-) >>>> >>>> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/17655/Changes-in-package-loading-behavior >>>> >>>>> On 21 Feb 2016, at 15:21, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Done! >>>>> Waiting for Marcus :-) >>>>> >>>>> Alexandre >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Feb 18, 2016, at 6:29 PM, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks Alex >>>>>> can you add the answer of eliot to the comments? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Le 17/2/16 18:59, Alexandre Bergel a Ã©crit : >>>>>>> Thanks, I have defined >>>>>>> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/17625/The-immediateSubclass-and-variableS… >>>>>>> >>>>>>> your comments are in a slice, waiting in the inbox >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> Alexandre >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Feb 17, 2016, at 1:54 PM, Damien Pollet <damien.pollet+pharo(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Immediate means it's stored in the OOP itself, like SmallInteger in 32 bits. >>>>>>>> Variable word is like variable byte (ByteArray) I suppose, variable size, with indices instead of named instance variables, but each index points to a full word (I guess either 32 or 64bit depending on the VM) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 17 February 2016 at 16:30, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> Hi! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have stumbled on: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Float immediateSubclass: #SmallFloat64 >>>>>>>> instanceVariableNames: '' >>>>>>>> classVariableNames: '' >>>>>>>> package: 'Kernel-Numbersâ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Float variableWordSubclass: #BoxedFloat64 >>>>>>>> instanceVariableNames: '' >>>>>>>> classVariableNames: '' >>>>>>>> package: 'Kernel-Numbersâ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What are immediate subclass and word variable? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>> Alexandre >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>>>>>>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>>>>>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>>>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > >

Feb. 24, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] What are immediate subclass and word variable subclass?

by Alexandre Bergel

??? Class comments cannot be improved then? Well... Alexandre > On Feb 23, 2016, at 10:59 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: > > Currently, modified class comments are not loaded, so don't bother trying to improve them > >> On 23 Feb 2016, at 10:55, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: >> >> I do not understand, is this related to the improved comment I have submitted? >> >> Alexandre >> >> >>> On Feb 21, 2016, at 12:14 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: >>> >>> We have a bug where class comment fail to load ;-) >>> >>> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/17655/Changes-in-package-loading-behavior >>> >>>> On 21 Feb 2016, at 15:21, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Done! >>>> Waiting for Marcus :-) >>>> >>>> Alexandre >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Feb 18, 2016, at 6:29 PM, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Thanks Alex >>>>> can you add the answer of eliot to the comments? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Le 17/2/16 18:59, Alexandre Bergel a Ã©crit : >>>>>> Thanks, I have defined >>>>>> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/17625/The-immediateSubclass-and-variableS… >>>>>> >>>>>> your comments are in a slice, waiting in the inbox >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Alexandre >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Feb 17, 2016, at 1:54 PM, Damien Pollet <damien.pollet+pharo(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Immediate means it's stored in the OOP itself, like SmallInteger in 32 bits. >>>>>>> Variable word is like variable byte (ByteArray) I suppose, variable size, with indices instead of named instance variables, but each index points to a full word (I guess either 32 or 64bit depending on the VM) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 17 February 2016 at 16:30, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: >>>>>>> Hi! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have stumbled on: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Float immediateSubclass: #SmallFloat64 >>>>>>> instanceVariableNames: '' >>>>>>> classVariableNames: '' >>>>>>> package: 'Kernel-Numbersâ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Float variableWordSubclass: #BoxedFloat64 >>>>>>> instanceVariableNames: '' >>>>>>> classVariableNames: '' >>>>>>> package: 'Kernel-Numbersâ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What are immediate subclass and word variable? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> Alexandre >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>>>>>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>>>>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> -- >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >> >> >> >> > > -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Feb. 24, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] [Moose-dev] Re: Call for action for Roassal

by Alexandre Bergel

> In any case, I wrote a simpler layout delegator in Roassal that delegates the layouting to graphviz and it works reasonably well, so I could probably add it to Roassal (you however need graphviz installed and it would add another dependency to Roassal, which I'm not so keen on). Where can we have it please? Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Feb. 24, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] help needed for testing the order in spotter

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

> On 24 Feb 2016, at 11:24, Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> writes: > >> Hi, >> >> We need a bit of help with testing the order in Spotter. We do not have a real solution yet, but the current one should improve the situation. >> >> We need a bit of feedback for this one: >> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/17656/Spotter-should-sort-search-results >> >> Essentially, you would need to load the latest GT-Spotter and GT-SpotterExtensions-Core and let us know if it works better for spotting implementors or classes. > > I have the impression this is already in the image. It seems to be > working fine. Yes, it works very well ! > Next time, it might help if you could just give us a Pharo > expression that loads the patch. > > -- > Damien Cassou > http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st > > "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without > losing enthusiasm." --Winston Churchill

Feb. 24, 2016