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Re: [Pharo-users] FFI on MacOS 10.12 using Pharo 5

by Dimitris Chloupis

I recently worked with UFFI for making a shared memory library, the very first thing I have done is to do everything first with C code , to make sure things work at the C side. Its so easy to mess up things at C code. So first make sure that the library actually works, because if it does not work inside a C program it wont work with UFFI either. The library may have to be rebuilt in Sierra , I think Sierra changed several things so just because the library worked on El Capitan does not mean it will work on Sierra. This is why its paramount you test the library inside a C application. Another thing is to make sure UFFI can locate the library , there is LibC class inside the Pharo image that gives an example on how to add paths that UFFI will search to find the library, I think its the linux side of the class but it should work the same on MacOS too. Last but not least I am not sure a bundle would work with UFFI but once more testing this with C code is the safest way to locate the problem. Old FFIs still work in Pharo 6 because there are things that UFFI cannot do like call Objective C libraries. So I doubt your problem is UFFI related most likely you need to build the library for Sierra. On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 3:57 AM jjjhhh <jayhardesty(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hello, > > I need help rescuing code that has dependencies on FFI. I just downloaded > the latest Pharo 5 vm in order to run Pharo under MacOS 10.12. Now the > FFI-based code in my image no longer works (or is viewable). > > What worked before (for years, up through MacOS 10.11) is as follows: > > I have a 32-bit lib (i386) called ThePlugin.bundle (C code compiled w/ > Xcode). I put it in Pharo.app/Contents/MacOS/Contents/Plugins/. > > The lib has a C function like: > int someNumber() { return 123; } > > In Smalltalk I have a class ThePluginFFI with the class method: > someNumber > <cdecl: int 'someNumber' () module: 'ThePlugin'> > ^self externalCallFailed > > And if I typed "ThePluginFFI someNumber" I got 123 > > Now I get "External module not found". If I try to view the method > "someNumber" I get an MNU from RBFFLCallPragma>>selectorParts (receiver of > "keywords" is nil), and the image hangs. > > I tried rewriting the method someNumber to look like this: > someNumber > ^self ffiCall: #( int someNumber() ) module: ThePlugin uniqueInstance > > where ThePlugin is a subclass of FFILibrary with an instance method: > macModuleName > ^'ThePlugin.bundle' > > but this still gets "External module not found" > > > Is there some new way of doing all this? Or some new trick to loading > libraries (I tried dylibs as well as bundles). > > I couldn't find a recent > summary/update. > > Thanks for any help! > Jay > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://forum.world.st/FFI-on-MacOS-10-12-using-Pharo-5-tp4927537.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > >

Dec. 20, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] FFI on MacOS 10.12 using Pharo 5

by Ben Coman

Previously with NativeBoost, Pharo FFI diverged from the mainline VM, which made support from vm-devs a bit harder. In Pharo 5 we've returned to the fold with UFFI, but there are some changes required. I recorded my own learning of UFFI here... http://blog.openinworld.com/2016/09/pharo-libclang-ffi-part-1-preamble/ cheers -ben On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 9:41 AM, jjjhhh <jayhardesty(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hello, > > I need help rescuing code that has dependencies on FFI. I just downloaded > the latest Pharo 5 vm in order to run Pharo under MacOS 10.12. Now the > FFI-based code in my image no longer works (or is viewable). > > What worked before (for years, up through MacOS 10.11) is as follows: > > I have a 32-bit lib (i386) called ThePlugin.bundle (C code compiled w/ > Xcode). I put it in Pharo.app/Contents/MacOS/Contents/Plugins/. > > The lib has a C function like: > int someNumber() { return 123; } > > In Smalltalk I have a class ThePluginFFI with the class method: > someNumber > <cdecl: int 'someNumber' () module: 'ThePlugin'> > ^self externalCallFailed > > And if I typed "ThePluginFFI someNumber" I got 123 > > Now I get "External module not found". If I try to view the method > "someNumber" I get an MNU from RBFFLCallPragma>>selectorParts (receiver of > "keywords" is nil), and the image hangs. > > I tried rewriting the method someNumber to look like this: > someNumber > ^self ffiCall: #( int someNumber() ) module: ThePlugin uniqueInstance > > where ThePlugin is a subclass of FFILibrary with an instance method: > macModuleName > ^'ThePlugin.bundle' > > but this still gets "External module not found" > > > Is there some new way of doing all this? Or some new trick to loading > libraries (I tried dylibs as well as bundles). > > I couldn't find a recent > summary/update. > > Thanks for any help! > Jay > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/FFI-on-MacOS-10-12-using-Pharo-5-tp4927537.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >

Dec. 20, 2016

Resetting Ring ?

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

In a 4.0 image I got in a situation where it seems Ring is out of sync (I am getting errors of missing meta classes on each accept). I vaguely remember there being an expression to reset/reinitialise Ring ? Does anyone remember ? Thx, Sven

Dec. 20, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] Protego - smart way to manage NIL's in business calculations

by Stephane Ducasse

Yes this is why it would be a good addition to protego On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 8:21 PM, Denis Kudriashov <dionisiydk(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > 2016-12-18 20:19 GMT+01:00 Denis Kudriashov <dionisiydk(a)gmail.com>: > >> >>> What is the main difference between proposed MissingValue and >>> UndefinedObject? >> >> >> MissingValue you will set up according to your business logic. While nil >> is just default value of variable which could be in your object by some >> incident, bug of application. > > > And it makes impossible to distinguish bug from normal application state > related to missing value >

Dec. 20, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] [Vm-dev] ptsd rage

by Tudor Girba

Indeed, please letâs focus on Pharo issues on this mailing list. Cheers, Doru > On Dec 20, 2016, at 1:25 AM, Travis Ayres <trayres(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Totally agreed. > > On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 4:17 PM, Brad <bsselfridge(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Don't know about anyone else, but I would appreciate it if this kind of commentary never made it to this email list. This topic is so inappropriate. Let's keep the discussion about Pharo. If you feel you must go down the political route, then please be gracious enough to find another venue. > > Brad Selfridge > 913-269-2385 > > On Dec 19, 2016, at 6:48 PM, Charlie Robbats <charlie.robbats(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Alright, one more sad observation. Of all the Law Enforcement violence, either perpetrated by LEOs against citizens or by citizens against LEOs, in all cases I am aware or recall having heard, all of these involve police officers. No violence, or very little, is perpetrated against or by Sheriff Deputies. As counties are a good and proper and consistent scope of crime administration, regardless of the density, police ought to report to the Sheriffs and let's put and end to broken windows policy and discriminatory enforcement. Police are always in our shit, and have their egos to boot. Sheriff Deputies, by comparison, are laid back and easy to talk to. They engage the public in respect, without attitude. >> >> Bob didn't shoot the deputy. >> >> On 12/17/2016 10:11 PM, Charlie Robbats wrote: >>> Last bit, a mantra: Crime & Punishment creates massive mental illness in our society. Ask the Russians. >>> >>> On 12/17/2016 10:05 PM, Charlie Robbats wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Well, my paranoia is kicking. I spoke too broadly of police, I have interacted with many and they do a lot of good. A bad apple spoils the whatever and their code of silence allows for that sort of rot. I tell it straight, because they monitor the list. I pissed them off! Do you think it passed the sanity test that cops run all street drugs with their felon database in hand? Damn! All those Fellas are going to turn and bite their masters' hand, you watch! Stacking these grown men like Twinkies in overcrowded prisons. There is a debt that needs to be paid and the righteous are those in prison on a bunch of bullshit paper. Vive la revolucion! Ok, sorry I went political. I am done. >>>> >>>> On 12/17/2016 9:49 PM, Charlie Robbats wrote: >>>>> I am sad with you in your diagnosis. I get that too, the blues. I get high if I am holding and listen to "Kind of Blue" or deep house or reggae. Some X would be good, but herbage is my mainstay to drop my constant threat mode (hypervigilence). I do not want a repeat of what happened! Unfortunately I drive people away to make sure of that. I appreciate your alls kindness. I wanted to share a solid explanation of why I am such a dick at times. I flip to active threat mode, I struggle to control this. It doesn't help that the police have been stalking me for 2 years, I am all caught up in their noise. Don't believe a word of their truthfulness. The blue wall of silence breaks God's commandment thou shalt not bear false witness. Police violate that daily, protecting their brothers who shoot unarmed black men in the back and claim they are fearing for their lives. Really? No, really? Well, that is a different story. That just freaking triggers me. And my opinion makes me their target. At least in my C-PTSD befuddled mind. >>>>> Be well all! >> > -- www.tudorgirba.com www.feenk.com "Things happen when they happen, not when you talk about them happening."

Dec. 20, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] Password storage options

by Jan BlizniÄenko

Ah, it seems I just did not switched it on - it does not work after all. I tried it with PasswordHashingFFI-PaulDeBrulcker.16.mcz, but also with 15 and 8. On Pharo 5, it calls many methods which I do not have in my environment, for example in BCryptLinuxFFI>>#generateBCryptSalt: there is line with "self randomBCryptSalt: saltSize", but there is no implementor of "randomBCryptSalt:". Also, in many methods of BCryptLinuxFFI there are message sends "greaseString" to variables cointaining probably integers, but there is also no implementor of greaseString. So I tried it on Pharo 4 - it does not even load, because it needs class ExternalStructure. So I found I need to download the FFI, I tried to do so using code below, but loading failed with MessageNotUnderstood: receiver of "selector" is nil. Gofer new squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; package: 'ConfigurationOfFFI'; load. (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfFFI) project lastVersion load So, I'm not sure what to try next to make it work. Jan Jan BlizniÄenko wrote > Thank you a lot! :) > > I tried it in Pharo 5 and everything seems to be working (I just had to > apt-get install libxcrypt:i386, load packages Cryptography, Blowfish (not > sure if really needed though) and PasswordHashingFFI and manually create > link in directory where it expected libxcrypt.so.1). About the FFI for > Pharo 5/6, maybe that's what Esteban Maringolo did in commit > "Cryptography-EstebanMaringolo.50" on 15 September 2016 "Version ready to > be loaded in Pharo 5.0 without affecting Kernel or System packages.". > > Scrypt would be even better to have, but I'm grateful enough for now since > it was all easier and faster than I expected. > > Jan > Paul DeBruicker wrote >> And to add scrypt to that FFI library would be trivial if you have a >> 32bit version of scrypt but I don't think there is one. I'd be happy to >> learn I'm wrong though. And thats assuming you're using 32 bit pharo, >> which is whats stable/released right now. >> >> >> >> >> Paul DeBruicker wrote >>> I made a crypt/bcrypt ffi library for older versions of Pharo that >>> sounds like it meets your needs and is in the cryptography project >>> here: >>> >>> http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~Cryptography/Cryptography >>> >>> But I have not updated it for the new FFI versions in Pharo 5/6. >>> >>> >>> >>> And Pierce Ng made a blog post and library about his own set up here: >>> http://www.samadhiweb.com/blog/2013.11.17.shacrypt.html >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Jan BlizniÄenko wrote >>>> Hello >>>> >>>> I'm working on Pharo-based webserver and right now I got to the topic >>>> of >>>> storing user passwords. I found SHA256 integrated in Pharo, but hashing >>>> with >>>> SHA is far from enough. I also looked around the mailing list history >>>> to >>>> find few posts from 2011 about bcrypt using Linux libraries. I'd like >>>> to ask >>>> what is current status - what are my options under following >>>> conditions: >>>> >>>> I prefer Pharo 5 compatibility. I could downgrade to Pharo 4 or use >>>> beta >>>> Pharo 6, but latest stable relase is preferred. >>>> >>>> I require at least bcrypt or PDKBF2, but I much more prefer >>>> GPU-attack-resistant solutions like scrypt or Argon2. >>>> >>>> I require Linux compatibility, but platform independent solution would >>>> be >>>> kinda nice (we could use the same algorithm on our local machines with >>>> Mac >>>> and Win for development). >>>> >>>> Thank you >>>> Jan >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> View this message in context: >>>> http://forum.world.st/Password-storage-options-tp4927471.html >>>> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Password-storage-options-tp4927480p4927538.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Dec. 20, 2016

FFI on MacOS 10.12 using Pharo 5

by jjjhhh

Hello, I need help rescuing code that has dependencies on FFI. I just downloaded the latest Pharo 5 vm in order to run Pharo under MacOS 10.12. Now the FFI-based code in my image no longer works (or is viewable). What worked before (for years, up through MacOS 10.11) is as follows: I have a 32-bit lib (i386) called ThePlugin.bundle (C code compiled w/ Xcode). I put it in Pharo.app/Contents/MacOS/Contents/Plugins/. The lib has a C function like: int someNumber() { return 123; } In Smalltalk I have a class ThePluginFFI with the class method: someNumber <cdecl: int 'someNumber' () module: 'ThePlugin'> ^self externalCallFailed And if I typed "ThePluginFFI someNumber" I got 123 Now I get "External module not found". If I try to view the method "someNumber" I get an MNU from RBFFLCallPragma>>selectorParts (receiver of "keywords" is nil), and the image hangs. I tried rewriting the method someNumber to look like this: someNumber ^self ffiCall: #( int someNumber() ) module: ThePlugin uniqueInstance where ThePlugin is a subclass of FFILibrary with an instance method: macModuleName ^'ThePlugin.bundle' but this still gets "External module not found" Is there some new way of doing all this? Or some new trick to loading libraries (I tried dylibs as well as bundles). I couldn't find a recent summary/update. Thanks for any help! Jay -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/FFI-on-MacOS-10-12-using-Pharo-5-tp4927537.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Dec. 20, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] [Vm-dev] Integrated decentralized localized social networks (was Re: ptsd rage)

by Charlie Robbats

Consider words from the street. All those potential Pharo users! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMnLHmTXjgU&list=PLJiUTrmz_5UMkFsdjCRJD0bpR… On 12/19/2016 8:11 PM, Charlie Robbats wrote: > > This is how I deal with ptsd. Change the system. > > > On 12/19/2016 8:08 PM, Charlie Robbats wrote: >> >> >> >> Which I have done over the years, used other venues for peaceful >> warfare. Sorry to disturb you. The 20th century model of society is >> stale and dated. Look at all the damage done to people for no good >> reason. We can effect change through technology. What kind of change? >> Something that leverages modern computing, including the blockchain >> for trusted interactions, lots of hand-held IoT devices combined into >> a massive decentralized computational network, leaving REST services >> behind and presenting functional semantics with robust data >> marshaling. With these capabilities, transform the way physical >> interactions occur. I like to term what I am seeing as virtualizing >> physicality & physicalizing virtuality. >> >> Is Pharo just aiming to be a better WebApp? That market is totally >> saturated. Pharo's/Squeak's strengtsh are robust dynamic presentation >> of information in graphical form and interconnectivity. Let us >> leverage that. Smalltalk is perfectly positioned to define the next >> transformation, because it is the only language system designed to be >> online 24/7, exactly what is needed for a massive decentralized >> computer with dynamic un/loading. I merely made a few comments >> regarding some of the practical functional requirements around the >> security facet of the new system. >> >> My apologies if you felt it was inappropriate. I think you were >> concerned it may get further out of hand and I do not disagree with >> you. Let's collect functional requirements for how this new social >> network will interact with personalized locality. This is my >> proposition. Why, we could eliminate prisons, massively reducing >> mental illness and eliminate collective confrontation. I believe >> completely, with all my heart, that this is in the original spirit of >> Smalltalk, but I cannot speak for the founders, this is my belief. >> >> Thank you for your thoughts, I did not mean to offend or go so far >> astray. >> >> Charlie >> >> On 12/19/2016 7:17 PM, Brad wrote: >>> Don't know about anyone else, but I would appreciate it if this kind >>> of commentary never made it to this email list. This topic is so >>> inappropriate. Let's keep the discussion about Pharo. If you feel >>> you must go down the political route, then please be gracious enough >>> to find another venue. >>> >>> Brad Selfridge >>> 913-269-2385 >>> >>> On Dec 19, 2016, at 6:48 PM, Charlie Robbats >>> <charlie.robbats(a)gmail.com <mailto:charlie.robbats@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>>> Alright, one more sad observation. Of all the Law Enforcement >>>> violence, either perpetrated by LEOs against citizens or by >>>> citizens against LEOs, in all cases I am aware or recall having >>>> heard, all of these involve police officers. No violence, or very >>>> little, is perpetrated against or by Sheriff Deputies. As counties >>>> are a good and proper and consistent scope of crime administration, >>>> regardless of the density, police ought to report to the Sheriffs >>>> and let's put and end to broken windows policy and discriminatory >>>> enforcement. Police are always in our shit, and have their egos to >>>> boot. Sheriff Deputies, by comparison, are laid back and easy to >>>> talk to. They engage the public in respect, without attitude. >>>> >>>> Bob didn't shoot the deputy. >>>> >>>> On 12/17/2016 10:11 PM, Charlie Robbats wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Last bit, a mantra: Crime & Punishment creates massive mental >>>>> illness in our society. Ask the Russians. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 12/17/2016 10:05 PM, Charlie Robbats wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Well, my paranoia is kicking. I spoke too broadly of police, I >>>>>> have interacted with many and they do a lot of good. A bad apple >>>>>> spoils the whatever and their code of silence allows for that >>>>>> sort of rot. I tell it straight, because they monitor the list. I >>>>>> pissed them off! Do you think it passed the sanity test that cops >>>>>> run all street drugs with their felon database in hand? Damn! All >>>>>> those Fellas are going to turn and bite their masters' hand, you >>>>>> watch! Stacking these grown men like Twinkies in overcrowded >>>>>> prisons. There is a debt that needs to be paid and the righteous >>>>>> are those in prison on a bunch of bullshit paper. Vive la >>>>>> revolucion! Ok, sorry I went political. I am done. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 12/17/2016 9:49 PM, Charlie Robbats wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am sad with you in your diagnosis. I get that too, the blues. >>>>>>> I get high if I am holding and listen to "Kind of Blue" or deep >>>>>>> house or reggae. Some X would be good, but herbage is my >>>>>>> mainstay to drop my constant threat mode (hypervigilence). I do >>>>>>> not want a repeat of what happened! Unfortunately I drive people >>>>>>> away to make sure of that. I appreciate your alls kindness. I >>>>>>> wanted to share a solid explanation of why I am such a dick at >>>>>>> times. I flip to active threat mode, I struggle to control this. >>>>>>> It doesn't help that the police have been stalking me for 2 >>>>>>> years, I am all caught up in their noise. Don't believe a word >>>>>>> of their truthfulness. The blue wall of silence breaks God's >>>>>>> commandment thou shalt not bear false witness. Police violate >>>>>>> that daily, protecting their brothers who shoot unarmed black >>>>>>> men in the back and claim they are fearing for their lives. >>>>>>> Really? No, really? Well, that is a different story. That just >>>>>>> freaking triggers me. And my opinion makes me their target. At >>>>>>> least in my C-PTSD befuddled mind. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Be well all! >>>>>>> >>>> >> >

Dec. 20, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] [Vm-dev] Integrated decentralized localized social networks (was Re: ptsd rage)

by Charlie Robbats

This is how I deal with ptsd. Change the system. On 12/19/2016 8:08 PM, Charlie Robbats wrote: > > > > Which I have done over the years, used other venues for peaceful > warfare. Sorry to disturb you. The 20th century model of society is > stale and dated. Look at all the damage done to people for no good > reason. We can effect change through technology. What kind of change? > Something that leverages modern computing, including the blockchain > for trusted interactions, lots of hand-held IoT devices combined into > a massive decentralized computational network, leaving REST services > behind and presenting functional semantics with robust data > marshaling. With these capabilities, transform the way physical > interactions occur. I like to term what I am seeing as virtualizing > physicality & physicalizing virtuality. > > Is Pharo just aiming to be a better WebApp? That market is totally > saturated. Pharo's/Squeak's strengtsh are robust dynamic presentation > of information in graphical form and interconnectivity. Let us > leverage that. Smalltalk is perfectly positioned to define the next > transformation, because it is the only language system designed to be > online 24/7, exactly what is needed for a massive decentralized > computer with dynamic un/loading. I merely made a few comments > regarding some of the practical functional requirements around the > security facet of the new system. > > My apologies if you felt it was inappropriate. I think you were > concerned it may get further out of hand and I do not disagree with > you. Let's collect functional requirements for how this new social > network will interact with personalized locality. This is my > proposition. Why, we could eliminate prisons, massively reducing > mental illness and eliminate collective confrontation. I believe > completely, with all my heart, that this is in the original spirit of > Smalltalk, but I cannot speak for the founders, this is my belief. > > Thank you for your thoughts, I did not mean to offend or go so far astray. > > Charlie > > On 12/19/2016 7:17 PM, Brad wrote: >> Don't know about anyone else, but I would appreciate it if this kind >> of commentary never made it to this email list. This topic is so >> inappropriate. Let's keep the discussion about Pharo. If you feel you >> must go down the political route, then please be gracious enough to >> find another venue. >> >> Brad Selfridge >> 913-269-2385 >> >> On Dec 19, 2016, at 6:48 PM, Charlie Robbats >> <charlie.robbats(a)gmail.com <mailto:charlie.robbats@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >>> Alright, one more sad observation. Of all the Law Enforcement >>> violence, either perpetrated by LEOs against citizens or by citizens >>> against LEOs, in all cases I am aware or recall having heard, all of >>> these involve police officers. No violence, or very little, is >>> perpetrated against or by Sheriff Deputies. As counties are a good >>> and proper and consistent scope of crime administration, regardless >>> of the density, police ought to report to the Sheriffs and let's put >>> and end to broken windows policy and discriminatory enforcement. >>> Police are always in our shit, and have their egos to boot. Sheriff >>> Deputies, by comparison, are laid back and easy to talk to. They >>> engage the public in respect, without attitude. >>> >>> Bob didn't shoot the deputy. >>> >>> On 12/17/2016 10:11 PM, Charlie Robbats wrote: >>>> >>>> Last bit, a mantra: Crime & Punishment creates massive mental >>>> illness in our society. Ask the Russians. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 12/17/2016 10:05 PM, Charlie Robbats wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Well, my paranoia is kicking. I spoke too broadly of police, I >>>>> have interacted with many and they do a lot of good. A bad apple >>>>> spoils the whatever and their code of silence allows for that sort >>>>> of rot. I tell it straight, because they monitor the list. I >>>>> pissed them off! Do you think it passed the sanity test that cops >>>>> run all street drugs with their felon database in hand? Damn! All >>>>> those Fellas are going to turn and bite their masters' hand, you >>>>> watch! Stacking these grown men like Twinkies in overcrowded >>>>> prisons. There is a debt that needs to be paid and the righteous >>>>> are those in prison on a bunch of bullshit paper. Vive la >>>>> revolucion! Ok, sorry I went political. I am done. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 12/17/2016 9:49 PM, Charlie Robbats wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I am sad with you in your diagnosis. I get that too, the blues. I >>>>>> get high if I am holding and listen to "Kind of Blue" or deep >>>>>> house or reggae. Some X would be good, but herbage is my mainstay >>>>>> to drop my constant threat mode (hypervigilence). I do not want a >>>>>> repeat of what happened! Unfortunately I drive people away to >>>>>> make sure of that. I appreciate your alls kindness. I wanted to >>>>>> share a solid explanation of why I am such a dick at times. I >>>>>> flip to active threat mode, I struggle to control this. It >>>>>> doesn't help that the police have been stalking me for 2 years, I >>>>>> am all caught up in their noise. Don't believe a word of their >>>>>> truthfulness. The blue wall of silence breaks God's commandment >>>>>> thou shalt not bear false witness. Police violate that daily, >>>>>> protecting their brothers who shoot unarmed black men in the back >>>>>> and claim they are fearing for their lives. Really? No, really? >>>>>> Well, that is a different story. That just freaking triggers me. >>>>>> And my opinion makes me their target. At least in my C-PTSD >>>>>> befuddled mind. >>>>>> >>>>>> Be well all! >>>>>> >>> >

Dec. 20, 2016

Integrated decentralized localized social networks (was Re: [Vm-dev] ptsd rage)

by Charlie Robbats

Which I have done over the years, used other venues for peaceful warfare. Sorry to disturb you. The 20th century model of society is stale and dated. Look at all the damage done to people for no good reason. We can effect change through technology. What kind of change? Something that leverages modern computing, including the blockchain for trusted interactions, lots of hand-held IoT devices combined into a massive decentralized computational network, leaving REST services behind and presenting functional semantics with robust data marshaling. With these capabilities, transform the way physical interactions occur. I like to term what I am seeing as virtualizing physicality & physicalizing virtuality. Is Pharo just aiming to be a better WebApp? That market is totally saturated. Pharo's/Squeak's strengtsh are robust dynamic presentation of information in graphical form and interconnectivity. Let us leverage that. Smalltalk is perfectly positioned to define the next transformation, because it is the only language system designed to be online 24/7, exactly what is needed for a massive decentralized computer with dynamic un/loading. I merely made a few comments regarding some of the practical functional requirements around the security facet of the new system. My apologies if you felt it was inappropriate. I think you were concerned it may get further out of hand and I do not disagree with you. Let's collect functional requirements for how this new social network will interact with personalized locality. This is my proposition. Why, we could eliminate prisons, massively reducing mental illness and eliminate collective confrontation. I believe completely, with all my heart, that this is in the original spirit of Smalltalk, but I cannot speak for the founders, this is my belief. Thank you for your thoughts, I did not mean to offend or go so far astray. Charlie On 12/19/2016 7:17 PM, Brad wrote: > Don't know about anyone else, but I would appreciate it if this kind > of commentary never made it to this email list. This topic is so > inappropriate. Let's keep the discussion about Pharo. If you feel you > must go down the political route, then please be gracious enough to > find another venue. > > Brad Selfridge > 913-269-2385 > > On Dec 19, 2016, at 6:48 PM, Charlie Robbats > <charlie.robbats(a)gmail.com <mailto:charlie.robbats@gmail.com>> wrote: > >> Alright, one more sad observation. Of all the Law Enforcement >> violence, either perpetrated by LEOs against citizens or by citizens >> against LEOs, in all cases I am aware or recall having heard, all of >> these involve police officers. No violence, or very little, is >> perpetrated against or by Sheriff Deputies. As counties are a good >> and proper and consistent scope of crime administration, regardless >> of the density, police ought to report to the Sheriffs and let's put >> and end to broken windows policy and discriminatory enforcement. >> Police are always in our shit, and have their egos to boot. Sheriff >> Deputies, by comparison, are laid back and easy to talk to. They >> engage the public in respect, without attitude. >> >> Bob didn't shoot the deputy. >> >> On 12/17/2016 10:11 PM, Charlie Robbats wrote: >>> >>> Last bit, a mantra: Crime & Punishment creates massive mental >>> illness in our society. Ask the Russians. >>> >>> >>> On 12/17/2016 10:05 PM, Charlie Robbats wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Well, my paranoia is kicking. I spoke too broadly of police, I have >>>> interacted with many and they do a lot of good. A bad apple spoils >>>> the whatever and their code of silence allows for that sort of rot. >>>> I tell it straight, because they monitor the list. I pissed them >>>> off! Do you think it passed the sanity test that cops run all >>>> street drugs with their felon database in hand? Damn! All those >>>> Fellas are going to turn and bite their masters' hand, you watch! >>>> Stacking these grown men like Twinkies in overcrowded prisons. >>>> There is a debt that needs to be paid and the righteous are those >>>> in prison on a bunch of bullshit paper. Vive la revolucion! Ok, >>>> sorry I went political. I am done. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 12/17/2016 9:49 PM, Charlie Robbats wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I am sad with you in your diagnosis. I get that too, the blues. I >>>>> get high if I am holding and listen to "Kind of Blue" or deep >>>>> house or reggae. Some X would be good, but herbage is my mainstay >>>>> to drop my constant threat mode (hypervigilence). I do not want a >>>>> repeat of what happened! Unfortunately I drive people away to make >>>>> sure of that. I appreciate your alls kindness. I wanted to share a >>>>> solid explanation of why I am such a dick at times. I flip to >>>>> active threat mode, I struggle to control this. It doesn't help >>>>> that the police have been stalking me for 2 years, I am all caught >>>>> up in their noise. Don't believe a word of their truthfulness. The >>>>> blue wall of silence breaks God's commandment thou shalt not bear >>>>> false witness. Police violate that daily, protecting their >>>>> brothers who shoot unarmed black men in the back and claim they >>>>> are fearing for their lives. Really? No, really? Well, that is a >>>>> different story. That just freaking triggers me. And my opinion >>>>> makes me their target. At least in my C-PTSD befuddled mind. >>>>> >>>>> Be well all! >>>>> >>

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