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Re: [Pharo-users] How to view hierarchy of multiple classes in a package?

by Ben Coman

On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 6:55 AM, Denis Kudriashov <dionisiydk(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > 2016-12-27 23:27 GMT+01:00 Tim Mackinnon <tim(a)testit.works>: > >> Eg, if a package had classes A, B, C, D - I wish I could see >> >> A >> +B >> +C >> +D >> > > In Pharo it will be shown exactly like this by default. No need to press > hier. But I guess there is something else. > > Anyway let's try with picture: > <snip> > > RBParseTreeRule subclasses looks like in your example > Tim, I guess you are wanting to see the hierarchical view of classes outside the current package, but how high do you want to go? Eventually you reach Object. So are you expecting to see *every* class in the hierarchical view? cheers -ben

Dec. 28, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] Slashdot Submission

by Dimitris Chloupis

Done ! :) Î£ÏÎ¹Ï Î¤ÎµÏ, 28 ÎÎµÎº 2016 - 02:54 Î¿ ÏÏÎ®ÏÏÎ·Ï horrido <horrido.hobbies(a)gmail.com> ÎÎ³ÏÎ±ÏÎµ: > Slashdot submission > < > https://slashdot.org/submission/6609431/techbeacon-article-is-making-a-brea… > > > > I'm trying to get my TechBeacon article on Slashdot. If I'm successful, > this > could be the BIGGEST win in my Smalltalk campaign, my Battle of Austerlitz > <https://www.britannica.com/event/Battle-of-Austerlitz> . > > Please, please, please, upvote the submission. Slashdot has to be convinced > to publish my story and *they look at the number of upvotes*. > > Thanks, > Richard > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://forum.world.st/Slashdot-Submission-tp4928235.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > >

Dec. 28, 2016

Slashdot Submission

by horrido

Slashdot submission <https://slashdot.org/submission/6609431/techbeacon-article-is-making-a-brea…> I'm trying to get my TechBeacon article on Slashdot. If I'm successful, this could be the BIGGEST win in my Smalltalk campaign, my Battle of Austerlitz <https://www.britannica.com/event/Battle-of-Austerlitz> . Please, please, please, upvote the submission. Slashdot has to be convinced to publish my story and *they look at the number of upvotes*. Thanks, Richard -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Slashdot-Submission-tp4928235.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Dec. 28, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] How to view hierarchy of multiple classes in a package?

by Denis Kudriashov

2016-12-27 23:27 GMT+01:00 Tim Mackinnon <tim(a)testit.works>: > Eg, if a package had classes A, B, C, D - I wish I could see > > A > +B > +C > +D > In Pharo it will be shown exactly like this by default. No need to press hier. But I guess there is something else. Anyway let's try with picture: â RBParseTreeRule subclasses looks like in your example

Dec. 27, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] How to view hierarchy of multiple classes in a package?

by Tim Mackinnon

Hi Denis - I went to look at an early squeak version and I think I was mistaken, properly drawn hierarchies were in VA and OW Smalltalks as well as Dolphin. Pharo doesn't do this well at all - pressing the hierarchy ,button draws the hierarchy for the selected class only - even though you may be looking at 6 related classes in a package Eg, if a package had classes A, B, C, D - I wish I could see A +B +C +D And not just one of the hierarchies like it does now. Eh if B is selected you just get A + B and don't see the other classes at all. I found it useful in a single browser to visually understand (even if it's crude nesting) the relationships between classes. This greatly helps with refactoring and comprehension. And reduces clicking on everything to build that mental model. How do people figure out relationships in code in Pharo, is there some other tool? Tim Sent from my iPhone Sent from my iPhone > On 27 Dec 2016, at 17:59, Denis Kudriashov <dionisiydk(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi. > > 2016-12-27 17:44 GMT+01:00 Tim Mackinnon <tim(a)testit.works>: >> What confuses me, is his I can see the hire hybrid the classes in relation to each other? The hier button just shows the hierarchy of the selected class and not in relation to the others? >> >> I'm sure at some point pharo and squeak let you see the related hierarchies of all the classes in the package didn't it? > > Could you show/describe concrete example? > Because what you describe feels like what we have now: "hierarchically sorted" classes of selected package. But you probably want something else? >

Dec. 27, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] Japanese Fonts

by tesonep＠gmail.com

Great you can fixed it. Cheers, Pablo. On Tue, Dec 27, 2016 at 4:25 AM, Evan Donahue <emdonahu(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, thanks for the reply. > > FreeType disable/reenable seems to have done the trick. It loaded up my > system fonts, and I was able to select Noto Sans CJK JP, which seems to do > the trick. For reference, this is on Pharo 6 #60334. I also installed this > for text entry: http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~tomooda/Tekka and it seems to > work like a charm. > > Thanks, > Evan > > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Japanese-Fonts- > tp4928056p4928161.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > -- Pablo Tesone. tesonep(a)gmail.com

Dec. 27, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] Webassembly and Pharo

by Dimitris Chloupis

On Tue, 27 Dec 2016 at 19:46, Vitor Medina Cruz <vitormcruz(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hello, > > Is the Pharo team aware of the http://webassembly.org/ effort? The > Browser Preview tentative is for Q1, do you think it is a good opportunity > to push Pharo to web development more easily? I know next to nothing of VM > binary (lol), but I am curious on how one could provide an Smalltalk (in > this particular Pharo) application in the web using webassembly, as the > project is aimed to broaden the development choices to something different > than Javascript or Transpilers (which I profoundly wishes to succeed since > I hate js) . > > Thanks, > VItor > > > > From the little I know it may be possible to port Cog VM to WebAssembly , compiling the C sources through emacscripten. As always things are more complex in practice than it may seem. WebAssembly would be more meaningful for front ends because you can run whatever you want on back ends. web dev on front end is not doing very well with both mobile and desktop platforms dominated by native apps. Pharo is already native , so unless you really want it for websites to replace JavaScript , but we already have PharoJS , squeakJs and amber for that, you don't need it. Personally I think for Pharo is more important to have official releases for iOS and Android. JavaScript wise I think we are well covered. So no I don't think webassembly matters as much for JavaScript as it matters for other languages. If you really care about performance just make an app and release it on Mac, windows, Linux, android and iOS app stores. This the route most popular web orientated apps go nowadays ,like Slack, Dropbox, Netflix etc. We actually do this side ways and embed a web browser to your app , which I think will be far more flexible than a website with webassembly. I think for now we have to wait and see.

Dec. 27, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] Webassembly and Pharo

by Esteban A. Maringolo

2016-12-27 14:44 GMT-03:00 Vitor Medina Cruz <vitormcruz(a)gmail.com>: > Hello, > > Is the Pharo team aware of the http://webassembly.org/ effort? The Browser > Preview tentative is for Q1, do you think it is a good opportunity to push > Pharo to web development more easily? I know next to nothing of VM binary > (lol), but I am curious on how one could provide an Smalltalk (in this > particular Pharo) application in the web using webassembly, as the project > is aimed to broaden the development choices to something different than > Javascript or Transpilers (which I profoundly wishes to succeed since I hate > js) . It's been mentioned that SqueakJS [1] might benefit from WebAssembly, and use that as a replacement for its JS VM. So far it is the only Smalltalk project that is in a position to benefit from that. With Craig's JS Bridge [2] you can manipulate the DOM from within a 100% smalltalk image like: ((JS document getElementsByTagName: 'h1') at: 0) at: 'innerHTML' put: 'Squeak said Hello World at ', Time now asString The images being used for Squeak JS examples are mostly old and the UI/UX are awkward and convoluted by today standards. But it would be a matter of having a minimal Pharo image that can run there. So you would have the power of Smalltalk development, with the ubiquity of JS runtimes. Regards, [1] https://squeak.js.org/ [2] https://squeak.js.org/demo/simple.html#document=JSBridge.st Esteban A. Maringolo

Dec. 27, 2016

Webassembly and Pharo

by Vitor Medina Cruz

Hello, Is the Pharo team aware of the http://webassembly.org/ effort? The Browser Preview tentative is for Q1, do you think it is a good opportunity to push Pharo to web development more easily? I know next to nothing of VM binary (lol), but I am curious on how one could provide an Smalltalk (in this particular Pharo) application in the web using webassembly, as the project is aimed to broaden the development choices to something different than Javascript or Transpilers (which I profoundly wishes to succeed since I hate js) . Thanks, VItor

Dec. 27, 2016

Re: [Pharo-users] How to view hierarchy of multiple classes in a package?

by Denis Kudriashov

Hi. 2016-12-27 17:44 GMT+01:00 Tim Mackinnon <tim(a)testit.works>: > What confuses me, is his I can see the hire hybrid the classes in relation > to each other? The hier button just shows the hierarchy of the selected > class and not in relation to the others? > > I'm sure at some point pharo and squeak let you see the related > hierarchies of all the classes in the package didn't it? > Could you show/describe concrete example? Because what you describe feels like what we have now: "hierarchically sorted" classes of selected package. But you probably want something else?

Dec. 27, 2016