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Re: [Pharo-users] Minimizing an Application

by Esteban A. Maringolo

2017-08-24 14:51 GMT-03:00 stephan <stephan(a)stack.nl>: > On 22-08-17 12:46, horrido wrote: >> >> If you start with a minimal imaqe, it's not obvious to me how you'd add a >> missing class and pull in all of its dependencies (which can be >> voluminous). >> And for a large application, there could be many, many missing classes. >> This >> sounds rather arduous. > That has been solved by Craig years ago. Instead of DNU you just load the > code from a connected image. Has this been tested in Pharo? I'm aware of this since I have memory, but I haven't know of any production system using it. Regards! Esteban A. Maringolo

Aug. 24, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] Minimizing an Application

by Dimitris Chloupis

Indeed that can be a barrier but why you would want to transmit an entire image instead of portion of it using something like fuel files or other binary formats ? It would dramatically reduce the size of data you transmit. On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 8:10 PM Craig Latta <craig(a)blackpagedigital.com> wrote: > > > ...10mbs which is the size pharo image can be reduced to is nothing > > for todays TBs hard drives and GBs flash drives and online storage. > > Unless you do an embedded app and 10 mbs are huge for your limited > > storage. > > Or you want to minimize initial startup time, including the time it > takes to transmit the entire system over the net. > > > -C > > -- > Craig Latta > Black Page Digital > Amsterdam :: San Francisco > craig(a)blackpagedigital.com > voice through 2017-09-12: > + 1 510 833 5799 <(510)%20833-5799> (SMS ok) > +31 20 893 2796 <+31%2020%20893%202796> (no SMS) > > >

Aug. 24, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] Minimizing an Application

by stephan

On 22-08-17 12:46, horrido wrote: > If you start with a minimal imaqe, it's not obvious to me how you'd add a > missing class and pull in all of its dependencies (which can be voluminous). > And for a large application, there could be many, many missing classes. This > sounds rather arduous. That has been solved by Craig years ago. Instead of DNU you just load the code from a connected image. Stephan

Aug. 24, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] Minimizing an Application

by Craig Latta

> ...10mbs which is the size pharo image can be reduced to is nothing > for todays TBs hard drives and GBs flash drives and online storage. > Unless you do an embedded app and 10 mbs are huge for your limited > storage. Or you want to minimize initial startup time, including the time it takes to transmit the entire system over the net. -C -- Craig Latta Black Page Digital Amsterdam :: San Francisco craig(a)blackpagedigital.com voice through 2017-09-12: + 1 510 833 5799 (SMS ok) +31 20 893 2796 (no SMS)

Aug. 24, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] SmartTest - ESUG 2017 - Trailer

by Dimitris Chloupis

lol by far the most funny pharo teaser I have watched and the tool looks extra useful , well done :) On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 6:33 PM Benoit Verhaeghe <benoit.verhaeghe(a)inria.fr> wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I'm glad to present you the trailer of SmartTest for ESUG > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAvfdN2z5-s > > BenoÃ®t Verhaeghe >

Aug. 24, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] Object>>#name deprecated in Pharo 6 -- what do I need to do?

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

It says so "on the tin" i.e. in the exception itself "Implement your own domain representation of an object, or use #asString or #printString instead." ;-) > On 24 Aug 2017, at 14:49, H. Hirzel <hannes.hirzel(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hello > > In the last days there was a discussion that > > Object>>#name > > > should no longer be used. I did not follow the discussion in detail. > What was decided how #name should be replaced? > > What do I need to do if I get a deprecation warning [1]? > > > Thanks for the answer in advance > > Hannes > > > > > [1] > The method Object>>#name called from PPCMNode>>#gtTreeViewIn: has been > deprecated. > Implement your own domain representation of an object, or use > #asString or #printString instead. > > Select Proceed to continue, or close this window to cancel the operation. >

Aug. 24, 2017

SmartTest - ESUG 2017 - Trailer

by Benoit Verhaeghe

Hi everyone, I'm glad to present you the trailer of SmartTest for ESUG https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAvfdN2z5-s BenoÃ®t Verhaeghe

Aug. 24, 2017

Re: Pharo and QT

by Shalok Shalom

https://github.com/Papierkorb/bindgen -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-and-QT-tp4948544p4963906.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Aug. 24, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit freeze on MacMini

by TedVanGaalen

yes, after full screen -> normal window -> minimise -> reshow it did. (not in any particular order, tried al those before as well) TedvG > On 24. Aug 2017, at 15:46, EstebanLM [via Smalltalk] <ml+s1294792n4963878h71(a)n4.nabble.com> wrote: > > and image still freezing? > > Esteban > >> On 24 Aug 2017, at 15:28, TedVanGaalen <[hidden email] <x-msg://3/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4963878&i=0>> wrote: >> >> Hi Esteban, >> unfortunately that doesnât make any difference. >> What I did: >> extension temporarily renamed to â¦..wasAdylib >> Started Pharo app by clikcing on it (gets the downloaded maiden image) >> then: >> âFT2Error:Freetype2 primitive failed [error -1][canât get error string]â >> >> >> >> >> this screen dump is after maximizing Pharo >> (as can be seen only dragging window redraws areas itâs been on) >> didnât freeze this time but mostly after some time it will and have to force quite Pharo. >> >> >> >>> On 24. Aug 2017, at 14:42, EstebanLM [via Smalltalk] <<a href="x-msg://183/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4963866&i=0 <x-msg://183/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4963866&i=0>" target="_top" rel="nofollow" link="external" class="">[hidden email]> wrote: >>> >>> it may have something to do with FreeType. >>> Can you try removing/renaming Pharo.app/Contents/MacOS/Plugins/libFT2Plugin.dylib ? >>> >>> (just to test) >>> >>> thanks, >>> Esteban >>> >>> >>> > On 24 Aug 2017, at 14:00, TedVanGaalen <<a href="<a href="x-msg://1/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&amp;node=4963855&amp;i=0 <x-msg://1/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&amp;node=4963855&amp;i=0>" class="">x-msg://1/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4963855&i=0 <x-msg://1/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4963855&i=0>" target="_top" rel="nofollow" link="external" class="">[hidden email]> wrote: >>> > >>> > Yesterday 23 Aug, I completely deleted all Pharo 6.1 64 bit and then >>> > downloaded and reinstalled it, but the same problems are still present. >>> > >>> > Then I installed Squeak5.1-16549-64bit, which works without problems. >>> > (I don't know if it uses the same VM as Pharo 6.1 64 bit?, if that is true, >>> > then the problem could be within the image, not the VM?) >>> > >>> > However, I do prefer using Pharo. >>> > As written before, I'll use Pharo 5.0 until 6.x >>> > runs ok on my mac mini. >>> > >>> > kind regards >>> > TedvG >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > -- >>> > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-6-0-and-6-1-64-bit-freeze-on-MacMini-tp4957969p… <http://forum.world.st/Pharo-6-0-and-6-1-64-bit-freeze-on-MacMini-tp4957969p…> >>> > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com <http://nabble.com/>. >>> > >>> >>> >>> If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion below: >>> http://forum.world.st/Pharo-6-0-and-6-1-64-bit-freeze-on-MacMini-tp4957969p… <http://forum.world.st/Pharo-6-0-and-6-1-64-bit-freeze-on-MacMini-tp4957969p…> >>> To unsubscribe from Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit freeze on MacMini, click here <applewebdata://C1A52F7D-2602-4631-93C6-961ABAB155ED>. >>> NAML <http://forum.world.st/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=macro_viewer&id=instan…> >> >> View this message in context: Re: Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit freeze on MacMini <http://forum.world.st/Pharo-6-0-and-6-1-64-bit-freeze-on-MacMini-tp4957969p…> >> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive <http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html> at Nabble.com <http://nabble.com/>. > > > > If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion below: > http://forum.world.st/Pharo-6-0-and-6-1-64-bit-freeze-on-MacMini-tp4957969p… <http://forum.world.st/Pharo-6-0-and-6-1-64-bit-freeze-on-MacMini-tp4957969p…> > To unsubscribe from Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit freeze on MacMini, click here <http://forum.world.st/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=unsubscribe_by_code&no…>. > NAML <http://forum.world.st/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=macro_viewer&id=instan…> -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-6-0-and-6-1-64-bit-freeze-on-MacMini-tp4957969p… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Aug. 24, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit freeze on MacMini

by Esteban Lorenzano

and image still freezing? Esteban > On 24 Aug 2017, at 15:28, TedVanGaalen <tedvga(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Esteban, > unfortunately that doesnât make any difference. > What I did: > extension temporarily renamed to â¦..wasAdylib > Started Pharo app by clikcing on it (gets the downloaded maiden image) > then: > âFT2Error:Freetype2 primitive failed [error -1][canât get error string]â > > > > > this screen dump is after maximizing Pharo > (as can be seen only dragging window redraws areas itâs been on) > didnât freeze this time but mostly after some time it will and have to force quite Pharo. > > > >> On 24. Aug 2017, at 14:42, EstebanLM [via Smalltalk] <[hidden email] <x-msg://183/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4963866&i=0>> wrote: >> >> it may have something to do with FreeType. >> Can you try removing/renaming Pharo.app/Contents/MacOS/Plugins/libFT2Plugin.dylib ? >> >> (just to test) >> >> thanks, >> Esteban >> >> >> > On 24 Aug 2017, at 14:00, TedVanGaalen <<a href="x-msg://1/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4963855&i=0 <x-msg://1/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4963855&i=0>" target="_top" rel="nofollow" link="external" class="">[hidden email]> wrote: >> > >> > Yesterday 23 Aug, I completely deleted all Pharo 6.1 64 bit and then >> > downloaded and reinstalled it, but the same problems are still present. >> > >> > Then I installed Squeak5.1-16549-64bit, which works without problems. >> > (I don't know if it uses the same VM as Pharo 6.1 64 bit?, if that is true, >> > then the problem could be within the image, not the VM?) >> > >> > However, I do prefer using Pharo. >> > As written before, I'll use Pharo 5.0 until 6.x >> > runs ok on my mac mini. >> > >> > kind regards >> > TedvG >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-6-0-and-6-1-64-bit-freeze-on-MacMini-tp4957969p… <http://forum.world.st/Pharo-6-0-and-6-1-64-bit-freeze-on-MacMini-tp4957969p…> >> > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com <http://nabble.com/>. >> > >> >> >> >> If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion below: >> http://forum.world.st/Pharo-6-0-and-6-1-64-bit-freeze-on-MacMini-tp4957969p… <http://forum.world.st/Pharo-6-0-and-6-1-64-bit-freeze-on-MacMini-tp4957969p…> >> To unsubscribe from Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit freeze on MacMini, click here <applewebdata://EA1D0388-75E1-4B16-8398-B1BFF508CD00>. >> NAML <http://forum.world.st/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=macro_viewer&id=instan…> > > View this message in context: Re: Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit freeze on MacMini <http://forum.world.st/Pharo-6-0-and-6-1-64-bit-freeze-on-MacMini-tp4957969p…> > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive <http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html> at Nabble.com <http://nabble.com/>.

Aug. 24, 2017