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[Pillar] How do I include a picture which I get from aMorph imageFrom?
by H. Hirzel
Hello
Is it possible to include a in-image picture in Pillar which I get by evaluating
myMorph imageForm?
Or do I need to write the instance of Form I get by evaluating the
expression above first as a PNG file to disk and get it from there.
PNGReadWriter
putForm: myMorph imageForm
onFileNamed: aString
If yes what is the default directory where does Pillar expects pictures --
The Pillar cheat sheet [1] and the Pillar chapter in the Pharo
enterprise book no 3 [2] have an example
+Caption>file://image.png|width=50|label=label+
Regards
Hannes
[1]
http://pillarhub.pharocloud.com/hub/pillarhub/pillarcheatsheet
[2] Section 3.8 of
https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/EnterprisePharoBook/lastSuccessf…
Aug. 28, 2017
Re: [Pharo-users] How to create a minimal image ?
by Thierry Goubier
Hi Pavel,
what would be the expression for building such an intermediate image out of
the minimal image? This?
Metacello new
baseline: 'BasicTools';
repository: 'github://pharo-project/pharo:master/src';
load
Regards,
Thierry
2017-08-28 13:24 GMT+02:00 Pavel Krivanek <pavel.krivanek(a)gmail.com>:
> What do you expect from such minimal image? Because we can produce several
> intermediate steps on the way to the standard full Pharo image
> (BaselineOfMorphicCore, BaselineOfMorphic, BaselineOfUI,
> BaselineOfBasicTools...)
>
> -- Pavel
>
> 2017-08-28 13:17 GMT+02:00 Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com>:
>
>> oh , then its not what I am thinking as minimal image. Pity, oh well , I
>> will wait for bootstrap to mature then :)
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 2:09 PM Pavel Krivanek <pavel.krivanek(a)gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The minimal image is headless image without any GUI. It is useless to
>>> try to open it this way.
>>>
>>> -- Pavel
>>>
>>> 2017-08-28 13:03 GMT+02:00 Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com>:
>>>
>>>> hmm does not work for me, it open the icon of pharo on macos sierra
>>>> dock and it stays there doing nothing
>>>> right clicking on it and choosing quit does nothing, so I am have to
>>>> use force quit to make it close
>>>>
>>>> I have downloaded pharo 6.1 from the website, default download, 32 bit,
>>>> minimal 32 bit image. I drag and drop image on top of pharo.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 10:29 AM Pavel Krivanek <
>>>> pavel.krivanek(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> 2017-08-26 19:31 GMT+02:00 Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I remember that the website used to link to a minimal image download
>>>>>> but it does not seem there is one anymore
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is still minimal image maintained ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> yes, as part of the bootstrap process
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Are there ways to make a image minimal ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> it is created in bootstrap/scripts/build.sh under
>>>>> name Pharo7.0-metacello-* and saved on files.pharo.org as
>>>>> http://files.pharo.org/image/70/latest-minimal-32.zip or
>>>>> http://files.pharo.org/image/70/latest-minimal-64.zip
>>>>>
>>>>> So you do not need to do it by yourself.
>>>>>
>>>>> -- Pavel
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>
Aug. 28, 2017
Re: [Pharo-users] Dark Mode
by phil@highoctane.be
On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 1:28 PM, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> I am no authority on dark theme because I am using my blue theme full time
> and I have addressed any colour issues I had.
>
> Retina detachment, wow that is serious ! I hope you doing better :(
>
Yeah, after that, not much can really stress me out that much.
And 2 x 27 inch monitors help. Pharo is great because I can make it be the
way I want it to code in it.
>
> Well I have myopia in both eyes, my left is 6 degrees which is pretty
> high. We myopics suppose to not see very well in the dark but my visual
> perception is great in dark environments even in almost complete darkness.
>
> Its weird because as I young boy I was non stop out in the sun and I live
> in Greece, here the Sun is very bright, yet it always hurt my eyes. Not
> much as knife pain, but more like feeling pressure on the eye. Of course I
> am not the only Greek in love with his sun glasses during summer.
>
> My eye doctor said it was because of my eyes being light color compared to
> the usual dark coloured eyes Greeks have. But I think the reason most
> likely is more mysterious :D
>
>
Ah ah, 1/2 italian with green eyes here. I feel you. I am running with
shades.
Phil
> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 2:05 PM phil(a)highoctane.be <phil(a)highoctane.be>
> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 12:10 AM, Dimitris Chloupis <
>> kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Also most don't know this but light themes of Pharo were in part hard
>>> coded. Esteban in order to create the dark theme which is based on the most
>>> popular dark theme ( if my memory serves correctly) , Darcula , he had to
>>> remove all this nasty code. He essentially made it possible for Pharo to
>>> have themes without worrying about hard coded colors. So if you ever want
>>> to make the light theme even lighter you have the dark theme to thank for
>>> making it easier for you.
>>>
>>> Quite an irony , would not agree ?
>>>
>>> If the doctors say your eye sight is great , he knows what he is talking
>>> about.
>>>
>>> Black foreground against dark grey background sound like a bug. Care to
>>> share a screenshot ?
>>> On Mon, 28 Aug 2017 at 00:51, PBKResearch <peter(a)pbkresearch.co.uk>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I agree with Dimitris - it is all a matter of preference - not all eyes
>>>> are the same. For myself, I find the default dark theme in Pharo very
>>>> uncomfortable. On my system, some elements have a black foreground on a
>>>> dark grey background, which is almost impossible to see. This is always
>>>> true of the maximise/minimise/close buttons, but sometimes also of text
>>>> fields in a playground. Whenever I download a new image, I immediately
>>>> switch to the Watery theme, with light background and nice coloured buttons
>>>> on the windows.
>>>>
>>>> Of course, my eyes may not be typical. I am now aged 84, and I have had
>>>> cataract operations on both eyes. My sight is actually quite good - my
>>>> optometrist confirms that I am legal to drive without spectacles - but my
>>>> adverse reaction to dark mode is strong and immediate.
>>>>
>>>
>> Eye issues as well. Retinal detachment in both, and cataract on the right
>> one. Loads of floaters.
>>
>> Light mode kills them.
>>
>> Dark theme : can code for hours without any trouble.
>>
>> At the office I am at now 90% of coders are using dark themes.
>>
>> Indeed the windows buttons are annoying, I have my own little hack to
>> make them better.
>> When a control bugs you, bring a halo and try to reverse the form,
>> usually makes things readable.
>>
>> Phil
>>
>>
>>>
>>>> Just my 2p worth
>>>>
>>>> Peter Kenny
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Pharo-users [mailto:pharo-users-bounces@lists.pharo.org] On
>>>> Behalf Of stephan
>>>> Sent: 27 August 2017 21:46
>>>> To: pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] Dark Mode
>>>>
>>>> On 27-08-17 22:37, Dimitris Chloupis wrote:
>>>> > White or dark is a matter of preference. But the matter of preference
>>>> > is also a matter of biology . Not all eyes are same.
>>>>
>>>> The research is pretty clear: a large majority of developers does
>>>> better with light themes. I have been sufficiently clear on the choice to
>>>> make
>>>> Pharo6 theme dark default
>>>>
>>>> Stephan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
Aug. 28, 2017
Re: [Pharo-users] How to create a minimal image ?
by Hernán Morales Durand
Hi Pavel,
Can you show how to produce an image without the following packages?
Tests
Spotter
Glamour/GT
Metacello
AST/Refactoring
Cheers,
Hernán
2017-08-28 8:24 GMT-03:00 Pavel Krivanek <pavel.krivanek(a)gmail.com>:
> What do you expect from such minimal image? Because we can produce several
> intermediate steps on the way to the standard full Pharo image
> (BaselineOfMorphicCore, BaselineOfMorphic, BaselineOfUI,
> BaselineOfBasicTools...)
>
> -- Pavel
>
> 2017-08-28 13:17 GMT+02:00 Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com>:
>>
>> oh , then its not what I am thinking as minimal image. Pity, oh well , I
>> will wait for bootstrap to mature then :)
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 2:09 PM Pavel Krivanek <pavel.krivanek(a)gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> The minimal image is headless image without any GUI. It is useless to try
>>> to open it this way.
>>>
>>> -- Pavel
>>>
>>> 2017-08-28 13:03 GMT+02:00 Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com>:
>>>>
>>>> hmm does not work for me, it open the icon of pharo on macos sierra dock
>>>> and it stays there doing nothing
>>>> right clicking on it and choosing quit does nothing, so I am have to use
>>>> force quit to make it close
>>>>
>>>> I have downloaded pharo 6.1 from the website, default download, 32 bit,
>>>> minimal 32 bit image. I drag and drop image on top of pharo.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 10:29 AM Pavel Krivanek
>>>> <pavel.krivanek(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> 2017-08-26 19:31 GMT+02:00 Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I remember that the website used to link to a minimal image download
>>>>>> but it does not seem there is one anymore
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is still minimal image maintained ?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> yes, as part of the bootstrap process
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are there ways to make a image minimal ?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> it is created in bootstrap/scripts/build.sh under name
>>>>> Pharo7.0-metacello-* and saved on files.pharo.org as
>>>>> http://files.pharo.org/image/70/latest-minimal-32.zip or
>>>>> http://files.pharo.org/image/70/latest-minimal-64.zip
>>>>>
>>>>> So you do not need to do it by yourself.
>>>>>
>>>>> -- Pavel
>>>
>>>
>
Aug. 28, 2017
Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo wiki , is here
by H. Hirzel
Dimitris
Please add a direct link to the Pillar chapter on the integration server
https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/EnterprisePharoBook/lastSuccessf…
The current link on the Pharo books web site is broken and this seems
to be the main piece of documentation about Pillar.
--Hannes
On 8/26/17, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas <offray.luna(a)mutabit.com> wrote:
> Thanks for keep me posted about your experiments. I would like to know
> where the current interface doesn't suit your needs/tastes and how easy
> was to use/extend the tool. I think that mind mapping problem would be
> particularly well suited for your GUI approaches.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Offray
>
>
> On 26/08/17 14:53, Dimitris Chloupis wrote:
>> mind mapping is an interest of mine too, though i never tried to make
>> one app for it yet. Ok will see if I will go down the Grafoscopio
>> route and will keep you posted. I was thinking using it as an in-image
>> interface for the wiki.
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 10:15 PM Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
>> <offray.luna(a)mutabit.com <mailto:offray.luna@mutabit.com>> wrote:
>>
>> That would be pretty interesting and yes, it is under MIT.
>>
>> On custom GUI's I have thought about a mind mapping interface for
>> Grafoscopio, for presentations. I would like to stretch the
>> tree/graph metaphor so it can make what we do with different
>> metaphors right now on "offimatics" (writing, calculation and
>> presentation), so this custom metaphors are interesting to me.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Offray
>>
>>
>> On 26/08/17 12:28, Dimitris Chloupis wrote:
>>> How would you feel if I took grafoscopio and made a custom GUI
>>> for it, mainly for personal usage ? Does it use the MIT license ?
>>>
>>> On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 6:56 PM Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
>>> <offray.luna(a)mutabit.com <mailto:offray.luna@mutabit.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> No it can't. Grafoscopio Markdown nodes just plain text boxes
>>> with Markdown code inside, but I would like to have at least
>>> syntax hightlighting for it. What Grafoscopio can do is to
>>> traverse a tree and process node headers as markdown titles,
>>> footnotes and others to produce a flat Markdown file to be
>>> processed by Pandoc. Also, thanks to special %metadata nodes
>>> in the tree, Grafoscopio can control & feedback the Pandoc
>>> command line options *inside* the notebook, increasing
>>> reproducibility, just by using plain Pharo dictionaries and
>>> dynamic arrays. Then, you can use the Notebook menu to export
>>> as PDF by running such options from the GUI.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Offray
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 26/08/17 10:31, Dimitris Chloupis wrote:
>>>> Grafoscopio can display markdown files ?
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 5:38 PM Offray Vladimir Luna
>>>> Cárdenas <offray.luna(a)mutabit.com
>>>> <mailto:offray.luna@mutabit.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dimitris,
>>>>
>>>> I understand your practical reasons to have Markdown
>>>> over Pillar and in fact I have advocated several of
>>>> them. As I have said, Markdown ubiquity for complete
>>>> documentation workflows (including complete books) is
>>>> similar to git ubiquity for code. Despite having other
>>>> personal preferences in markup and DVCS, I think is
>>>> strategic to give them support in Pharo, without
>>>> precluding any work on our own tools (Monticello,
>>>> Metacello, Pillar, etc.).
>>>>
>>>> I'll try to make some experiments with integration of
>>>> Documenter in Grafoscopio and Markdown. They'll advance
>>>> slowly, because time constrains now that I'm trying to
>>>> finish my thesis, but once a week I'll try to show
>>>> advancements and make questions.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Offray
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 26/08/17 01:55, Dimitris Chloupis wrote:
>>>>> As I said the format is not so important for me, the
>>>>> reason why I chose markdown instead of pillar is
>>>>> because you can edit it using github web interface
>>>>> making it easier. The books will continue to use
>>>>> Pillar, because making a book is obviously a lot more
>>>>> sophisticated than creating a wiki that mainly has web
>>>>> links to various internet locations. Pillar already can
>>>>> export to markdown , latex, html and through latex it
>>>>> can also export to pdf.
>>>>>
>>>>> After Stef requested it, I moved the wiki inside the
>>>>> pharo git repository here
>>>>>
>>>>> https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo
>>>>>
>>>>> I also added a link to it inside the git wiki of pharo
>>>>>
>>>>> https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/wiki
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 2:17 AM Offray Vladimir Luna
>>>>> Cárdenas <offray.luna(a)mutabit.com
>>>>> <mailto:offray.luna@mutabit.com>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> So, we're going to have Markdown for the wiki and
>>>>> probably for documentation (via GitBooks)..., which
>>>>> is not surprising considering the vast amount of
>>>>> support such documentation format has and the
>>>>> extensions for a complete documentation toolchain
>>>>> and features. As I said, I think that is an
>>>>> important syntax and we should put Scholarly/Pandoc
>>>>> Markdown in the radar for documentation support in
>>>>> Pharo. Is what I'm doing with Grafoscopio and now
>>>>> that Pillar support is again taking momentum, the
>>>>> infrastructure there (parsers, highlighters,
>>>>> editors) could be extended to support Pandoc's
>>>>> Markdown.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll keep you posted.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>> Offray
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 24/08/17 17:59, Dimitris Chloupis wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 11:32 PM Stephane Ducasse
>>>>>> <stepharo.self(a)gmail.com
>>>>>> <mailto:stepharo.self@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You have Netstyle/Workflow too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> done
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Why are you using markup documents to create the
>>>>>> wiki when you could
>>>>>> use Github wiki itself?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For portability?"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> good question. Yes for flexibility , another
>>>>>> reason however is that Github wiki is a separate
>>>>>> repo and I did not want that because in the very
>>>>>> back of my head I am considering the option of
>>>>>> creating software to allow access to wiki from
>>>>>> inside Pharo and I wanted to be all (content and
>>>>>> code) in the same repo. Its a very low priority
>>>>>> for now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also Github wiki is basically the same as I am
>>>>>> doing with some extra format (table of contents) ,
>>>>>> in my case I dont care because Github allows me to
>>>>>> define HTML templates that will format the wiki
>>>>>> webpage and make it look a a lot more polished
>>>>>> that pharo wiki looks like. Generally there are
>>>>>> some cool stuff you can do with Markdown and
>>>>>> Github , plus the fact that markdown can embed
>>>>>> HTML etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is also the option of Gitbook which has some
>>>>>> nice features for generating polished and well
>>>>>> structured documentation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So I like to keep my options open. For now I am
>>>>>> focusing 100% on content.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
Aug. 28, 2017
Re: [Pharo-users] How to create a minimal image ?
by Dimitris Chloupis
for me Pharo and GUI go hand in hand, I cannot imagine Pharo without GUI. I
also despise the command line. Plus once you remove the GUI you kill the
very essence of Smalltalk.
But if that is what you(you as all people who support this) like and need,
that's your choice and I respect that.
Even back in the 80s when almost everything was command lines , I was
drooling over Amiga's 500 beautiful coloured GUIs. It started my
fascination with computer graphics and later 3d graphics and sound.
So me and the GUI are very old friends and we go hand in hand :)
Of course I understand if we want to go super minimal the GUI has to go
together with many other things that make Pharo what it is. But I dont care
for such extremes. I just wanted to reduce the fat.
On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 2:24 PM Pavel Krivanek <pavel.krivanek(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> What do you expect from such minimal image? Because we can produce several
> intermediate steps on the way to the standard full Pharo image
> (BaselineOfMorphicCore, BaselineOfMorphic, BaselineOfUI,
> BaselineOfBasicTools...)
>
> -- Pavel
>
> 2017-08-28 13:17 GMT+02:00 Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com>:
>
>> oh , then its not what I am thinking as minimal image. Pity, oh well , I
>> will wait for bootstrap to mature then :)
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 2:09 PM Pavel Krivanek <pavel.krivanek(a)gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The minimal image is headless image without any GUI. It is useless to
>>> try to open it this way.
>>>
>>> -- Pavel
>>>
>>> 2017-08-28 13:03 GMT+02:00 Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com>:
>>>
>>>> hmm does not work for me, it open the icon of pharo on macos sierra
>>>> dock and it stays there doing nothing
>>>> right clicking on it and choosing quit does nothing, so I am have to
>>>> use force quit to make it close
>>>>
>>>> I have downloaded pharo 6.1 from the website, default download, 32 bit,
>>>> minimal 32 bit image. I drag and drop image on top of pharo.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 10:29 AM Pavel Krivanek <
>>>> pavel.krivanek(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> 2017-08-26 19:31 GMT+02:00 Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I remember that the website used to link to a minimal image download
>>>>>> but it does not seem there is one anymore
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is still minimal image maintained ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> yes, as part of the bootstrap process
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Are there ways to make a image minimal ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> it is created in bootstrap/scripts/build.sh under
>>>>> name Pharo7.0-metacello-* and saved on files.pharo.org as
>>>>> http://files.pharo.org/image/70/latest-minimal-32.zip or
>>>>> http://files.pharo.org/image/70/latest-minimal-64.zip
>>>>>
>>>>> So you do not need to do it by yourself.
>>>>>
>>>>> -- Pavel
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>
Aug. 28, 2017
How do I get at the Morphic halos in Pharo 6.0?
by H. Hirzel
On 8/28/17, phil(a)highoctane.be <phil(a)highoctane.be> wrote:
....
>
> Dark theme : can code for hours without any trouble.
>
> At the office I am at now 90% of coders are using dark themes.
>
> Indeed the windows buttons are annoying, I have my own little hack to make
> them better.
> When a control bugs you, bring a halo and try to reverse the form, usually
> makes things readable.
>
> Phil
Phil,
I was not aware that it is still possible to get Morphic halos in Pharo 6.0?
How do I get at them?
Regards
Hannes
Aug. 28, 2017
Re: [Pharo-users] Where do I find a Pillar syntax summary?
by H. Hirzel
Found the Pillar chapter of the Pharo enterprise book ("A web
perspective") by following the link on the wiki
https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/blob/master/wiki/contents/projects.m…
then
https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/EnterprisePharoBook/lastSuccessf…
Then https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/EnterprisePharoBook/lastSuccessf…
So the information is somewhat hidden but available and only the link
from the Pharo books website is broken.....
On 8/28/17, H. Hirzel <hannes.hirzel(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> P.S. Important Pillar links I have collected last week
>
> https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/blob/master/wiki/contents/projects.m…
>
> Includes this one
> http://pillarhub.pharocloud.com/hub/pillarhub/pillarcheatsheet
> Alistair writes it is fine in Pharo 6 for what he is using it for.
>
> In particular I am interested in adding pictures which are within the
> Pharo image.
>
> On 8/28/17, H. Hirzel <hannes.hirzel(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> Stephane
>>
>> I went to the Pharo book web site,
>>
>> Enterprise Pharo - a web perspective
>> Enterprise Pharo is the third volume of the series.
>>
>> This link
>>
>> http://files.pharo.org/books/enterprise-pharo/
>>
>> and clicked on 'Pillar'
>>
>> and for
>>
>> https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/EnterprisePharoBook/lastSuccessf…
>>
>> got HTTP ERROR 404
>>
>> I think you are currently updating the book and that there are also PDFs.
>>
>> How can I get at a recent version? Integration server? Where?
>>
>> --Hannes
>>
>>
>>
>> On 8/26/17, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>> the most up to date description is in the web perspective book and not
>>> much changed since then.
>>> We are picky when it is about the changing the syntax so it nearly did
>>> not change.
>>>
>>> Stef
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 10:55 AM, H. Hirzel <hannes.hirzel(a)gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> At the moment my interest is to have a description of all the Pillar
>>>> syntax features Pharo 5 and 6 supports.
>>>>
>>>> a) in an example document
>>>> b) as a list
>>>>
>>>> As for Pillar syntax versions:
>>>>
>>>> I can imagine that there have been changes in the past. I just don't
>>>> know.
>>>> And there might be changes in the future. So a version indication is
>>>> helpful even if it just says that Pharo 6 supports the same Pillar
>>>> version as it was in Pharo x (x = 2,3,4,5 ?).
>>>>
>>>> On 8/24/17, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Good suggestion.
>>>>> Now I have no time for pillar per se. Now if you do it I will add it
>>>>> to pillar without hesitation.
>>>>> Tomorrow we will
>>>>> use bintray for all the projects to save the pdf (booklet, books).
>>>>> migrate the mooc to the makefile generator developed by luc.
>>>>> make sure that it works for Pillar 50 and 60.
>>>>> migrate other pillar projects to use the same.
>>>>>
>>>>> BTW we do not really want to have multiple version of the syntax.
>>>>> For example Pillar 50 and 60 are the same from a syntax point of view.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 11:24 AM, H. Hirzel <hannes.hirzel(a)gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Alistair,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you for the link to the Pillar syntax summary
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://pillarhub.pharocloud.com/hub/pillarhub/pillarcheatsheet
>>>>>>
>>>>>> and the confirmation that the constructs there work in Pharo 6 & 7
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> basic cases. This is fine for me at the moment.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Stephan D
>>>>>> Thanks for being ready to check the full feature support in Pillar.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A suggestion:
>>>>>> A new style sheet could come as well together with a test document
>>>>>> (with version indication included) for the Pillar parser.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then it is straightforward to determine if a particular Pillar
>>>>>> installation supports a particular Pillar markup version.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Pillar-Tests-PetitPillar package tests individual features but
>>>>>> not
>>>>>> all in one go. If we have a test case which tests all features in one
>>>>>> go it has a triple function:
>>>>>> 1) It is a syntax summary of all features.
>>>>>> 2) It serves as a living documentation.
>>>>>> 3) It helps to determine if a particular pillar installation in an
>>>>>> image supports a particular Pillar version.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --Hannes
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 8/23/17, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> +Handling all the cases: summing a die/die handle with a die/die
>>>>>>> handle
>>>>>>> .>file://figures/DieDoubleDispatchFull.pdf|width=70|label=figDieDoubleDispatchFull+
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> See Figure *@figDieDoubleDispatchFull* for internal ref is missing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Two Column is missing. I do not know it works in Latex.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I will try to create one a new style sheet.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 9:46 PM, Alistair Grant
>>>>>>> <akgrant0710(a)gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 09:11:47PM +0200, H. Hirzel wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Thanks, it is useful.
>>>>>>>>> Date is 24 June 2014.
>>>>>>>>> Not sure if it is the latest version for what I have now in Pharo
>>>>>>>>> 6.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --Hannes
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> True, but it only covers the basic text mark-up and I don't think
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> has changed recently. Anyway, I haven't found anything wrong with
>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> Pharo 6 & 7 (admittedly, with only basic pillar usage).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> Alistair
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 8/23/17, Alistair Grant <akgrant0710(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> > How about:
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > http://pillarhub.pharocloud.com/hub/pillarhub/pillarcheatsheet
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > Cheers,
>>>>>>>>> > Alistair
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
Aug. 28, 2017
Re: [Pharo-users] Dark Mode
by Dimitris Chloupis
I am no authority on dark theme because I am using my blue theme full time
and I have addressed any colour issues I had.
Retina detachment, wow that is serious ! I hope you doing better :(
Well I have myopia in both eyes, my left is 6 degrees which is pretty high.
We myopics suppose to not see very well in the dark but my visual
perception is great in dark environments even in almost complete darkness.
Its weird because as I young boy I was non stop out in the sun and I live
in Greece, here the Sun is very bright, yet it always hurt my eyes. Not
much as knife pain, but more like feeling pressure on the eye. Of course I
am not the only Greek in love with his sun glasses during summer.
My eye doctor said it was because of my eyes being light color compared to
the usual dark coloured eyes Greeks have. But I think the reason most
likely is more mysterious :D
On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 2:05 PM phil(a)highoctane.be <phil(a)highoctane.be>
wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 12:10 AM, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
>> Also most don't know this but light themes of Pharo were in part hard
>> coded. Esteban in order to create the dark theme which is based on the most
>> popular dark theme ( if my memory serves correctly) , Darcula , he had to
>> remove all this nasty code. He essentially made it possible for Pharo to
>> have themes without worrying about hard coded colors. So if you ever want
>> to make the light theme even lighter you have the dark theme to thank for
>> making it easier for you.
>>
>> Quite an irony , would not agree ?
>>
>> If the doctors say your eye sight is great , he knows what he is talking
>> about.
>>
>> Black foreground against dark grey background sound like a bug. Care to
>> share a screenshot ?
>> On Mon, 28 Aug 2017 at 00:51, PBKResearch <peter(a)pbkresearch.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I agree with Dimitris - it is all a matter of preference - not all eyes
>>> are the same. For myself, I find the default dark theme in Pharo very
>>> uncomfortable. On my system, some elements have a black foreground on a
>>> dark grey background, which is almost impossible to see. This is always
>>> true of the maximise/minimise/close buttons, but sometimes also of text
>>> fields in a playground. Whenever I download a new image, I immediately
>>> switch to the Watery theme, with light background and nice coloured buttons
>>> on the windows.
>>>
>>> Of course, my eyes may not be typical. I am now aged 84, and I have had
>>> cataract operations on both eyes. My sight is actually quite good - my
>>> optometrist confirms that I am legal to drive without spectacles - but my
>>> adverse reaction to dark mode is strong and immediate.
>>>
>>
> Eye issues as well. Retinal detachment in both, and cataract on the right
> one. Loads of floaters.
>
> Light mode kills them.
>
> Dark theme : can code for hours without any trouble.
>
> At the office I am at now 90% of coders are using dark themes.
>
> Indeed the windows buttons are annoying, I have my own little hack to make
> them better.
> When a control bugs you, bring a halo and try to reverse the form, usually
> makes things readable.
>
> Phil
>
>
>>
>>> Just my 2p worth
>>>
>>> Peter Kenny
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Pharo-users [mailto:pharo-users-bounces@lists.pharo.org] On
>>> Behalf Of stephan
>>> Sent: 27 August 2017 21:46
>>> To: pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org
>>> Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] Dark Mode
>>>
>>> On 27-08-17 22:37, Dimitris Chloupis wrote:
>>> > White or dark is a matter of preference. But the matter of preference
>>> > is also a matter of biology . Not all eyes are same.
>>>
>>> The research is pretty clear: a large majority of developers does better
>>> with light themes. I have been sufficiently clear on the choice to make
>>> Pharo6 theme dark default
>>>
>>> Stephan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
Aug. 28, 2017
Re: [Pharo-users] How to create a minimal image ?
by Pavel Krivanek
What do you expect from such minimal image? Because we can produce several
intermediate steps on the way to the standard full Pharo image
(BaselineOfMorphicCore, BaselineOfMorphic, BaselineOfUI,
BaselineOfBasicTools...)
-- Pavel
2017-08-28 13:17 GMT+02:00 Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com>:
> oh , then its not what I am thinking as minimal image. Pity, oh well , I
> will wait for bootstrap to mature then :)
>
> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 2:09 PM Pavel Krivanek <pavel.krivanek(a)gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> The minimal image is headless image without any GUI. It is useless to try
>> to open it this way.
>>
>> -- Pavel
>>
>> 2017-08-28 13:03 GMT+02:00 Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com>:
>>
>>> hmm does not work for me, it open the icon of pharo on macos sierra dock
>>> and it stays there doing nothing
>>> right clicking on it and choosing quit does nothing, so I am have to use
>>> force quit to make it close
>>>
>>> I have downloaded pharo 6.1 from the website, default download, 32 bit,
>>> minimal 32 bit image. I drag and drop image on top of pharo.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 10:29 AM Pavel Krivanek <
>>> pavel.krivanek(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> 2017-08-26 19:31 GMT+02:00 Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com>:
>>>>
>>>>> I remember that the website used to link to a minimal image download
>>>>> but it does not seem there is one anymore
>>>>>
>>>>> Is still minimal image maintained ?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> yes, as part of the bootstrap process
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Are there ways to make a image minimal ?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> it is created in bootstrap/scripts/build.sh under
>>>> name Pharo7.0-metacello-* and saved on files.pharo.org as
>>>> http://files.pharo.org/image/70/latest-minimal-32.zip or
>>>> http://files.pharo.org/image/70/latest-minimal-64.zip
>>>>
>>>> So you do not need to do it by yourself.
>>>>
>>>> -- Pavel
>>>>
>>>
>>
Aug. 28, 2017