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Re: [Pharo-users] How to create a minimal image ?

by Thierry Goubier

2017-08-28 14:41 GMT+02:00 Pavel Krivanek <pavel.krivanek(a)gmail.com>: > It is not that simple. The baseline expects that you will have a pharo > repository clone in a folder named 'pharo-core' in your working directory. > Then you need data like files or icons. > > set -e > wget http://files.pharo.org/sources/PharoV60.sources > unzip pharo-core/resources/fonts/BitmapDejaVuSans.fuel -d . > mkdir icon-packs > cd icon-packs > wget http://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-icon-packs/archive/idea11.zip > cd .. > pharo Pharo7.0-metacello-32bit-82ecd43.image --no-default-preferences > eval --save "Metacello new baseline: 'UI';repository: > 'filetree://pharo-core/src'; load" > Thanks. > > Unfortunatelly the resultant image is not usable - it immediately falls > into the emergency evaluator - because of the dependencies on translation > and fast table. We need to provide some care to it again because it is not > generated regularly -> it gets quickly broken. > Understood. I think it may have an overall huge benefit by making the system far more modular once done. But maybe, for it to work effectively, one needs to have a usable minimal image with the GUI and very simple core tools. Regards, Thierry > > -- Pavel > > > 2017-08-28 13:47 GMT+02:00 Thierry Goubier <thierry.goubier(a)gmail.com>: > >> Hi Pavel, >> >> what would be the expression for building such an intermediate image out >> of the minimal image? This? >> >> Metacello new >> baseline: 'BasicTools'; >> repository: 'github://pharo-project/pharo:master/src'; >> load >> >> Regards, >> >> Thierry >> >> >> 2017-08-28 13:24 GMT+02:00 Pavel Krivanek <pavel.krivanek(a)gmail.com>: >> >>> What do you expect from such minimal image? Because we can produce >>> several intermediate steps on the way to the standard full Pharo image >>> (BaselineOfMorphicCore, BaselineOfMorphic, BaselineOfUI, >>> BaselineOfBasicTools...) >>> >>> -- Pavel >>> >>> 2017-08-28 13:17 GMT+02:00 Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com>: >>> >>>> oh , then its not what I am thinking as minimal image. Pity, oh well , >>>> I will wait for bootstrap to mature then :) >>>> >>>> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 2:09 PM Pavel Krivanek < >>>> pavel.krivanek(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> The minimal image is headless image without any GUI. It is useless to >>>>> try to open it this way. >>>>> >>>>> -- Pavel >>>>> >>>>> 2017-08-28 13:03 GMT+02:00 Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com>: >>>>> >>>>>> hmm does not work for me, it open the icon of pharo on macos sierra >>>>>> dock and it stays there doing nothing >>>>>> right clicking on it and choosing quit does nothing, so I am have to >>>>>> use force quit to make it close >>>>>> >>>>>> I have downloaded pharo 6.1 from the website, default download, 32 >>>>>> bit, minimal 32 bit image. I drag and drop image on top of pharo. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 10:29 AM Pavel Krivanek < >>>>>> pavel.krivanek(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> 2017-08-26 19:31 GMT+02:00 Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> >>>>>>> : >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I remember that the website used to link to a minimal image >>>>>>>> download but it does not seem there is one anymore >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Is still minimal image maintained ? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> yes, as part of the bootstrap process >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Are there ways to make a image minimal ? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> it is created in bootstrap/scripts/build.sh under >>>>>>> name Pharo7.0-metacello-* and saved on files.pharo.org as >>>>>>> http://files.pharo.org/image/70/latest-minimal-32.zip or >>>>>>> http://files.pharo.org/image/70/latest-minimal-64.zip >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So you do not need to do it by yourself. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- Pavel >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> >> >

Aug. 28, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] How to create a minimal image ?

by Pavel Krivanek

2017-08-28 13:43 GMT+02:00 HernÃ¡n Morales Durand <hernan.morales(a)gmail.com>: > Hi Pavel, > > Can you show how to produce an image without the following packages? > > Tests > Spotter > Glamour/GT > Metacello > AST/Refactoring > Sorry, I cannot. We are still not in the state where is possible to configure our image this way. The graph of the package dependencies is still too complex. -- Pavel > > Cheers, > > HernÃ¡n > > > 2017-08-28 8:24 GMT-03:00 Pavel Krivanek <pavel.krivanek(a)gmail.com>: > > What do you expect from such minimal image? Because we can produce > several > > intermediate steps on the way to the standard full Pharo image > > (BaselineOfMorphicCore, BaselineOfMorphic, BaselineOfUI, > > BaselineOfBasicTools...) > > > > -- Pavel > > > > 2017-08-28 13:17 GMT+02:00 Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com>: > >> > >> oh , then its not what I am thinking as minimal image. Pity, oh well , I > >> will wait for bootstrap to mature then :) > >> > >> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 2:09 PM Pavel Krivanek < > pavel.krivanek(a)gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> The minimal image is headless image without any GUI. It is useless to > try > >>> to open it this way. > >>> > >>> -- Pavel > >>> > >>> 2017-08-28 13:03 GMT+02:00 Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com>: > >>>> > >>>> hmm does not work for me, it open the icon of pharo on macos sierra > dock > >>>> and it stays there doing nothing > >>>> right clicking on it and choosing quit does nothing, so I am have to > use > >>>> force quit to make it close > >>>> > >>>> I have downloaded pharo 6.1 from the website, default download, 32 > bit, > >>>> minimal 32 bit image. I drag and drop image on top of pharo. > >>>> > >>>> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 10:29 AM Pavel Krivanek > >>>> <pavel.krivanek(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> 2017-08-26 19:31 GMT+02:00 Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com > >: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I remember that the website used to link to a minimal image download > >>>>>> but it does not seem there is one anymore > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Is still minimal image maintained ? > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> yes, as part of the bootstrap process > >>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Are there ways to make a image minimal ? > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> it is created in bootstrap/scripts/build.sh under name > >>>>> Pharo7.0-metacello-* and saved on files.pharo.org as > >>>>> http://files.pharo.org/image/70/latest-minimal-32.zip or > >>>>> http://files.pharo.org/image/70/latest-minimal-64.zip > >>>>> > >>>>> So you do not need to do it by yourself. > >>>>> > >>>>> -- Pavel > >>> > >>> > > > >

Aug. 28, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] How to create a minimal image ?

by Pavel Krivanek

It is not that simple. The baseline expects that you will have a pharo repository clone in a folder named 'pharo-core' in your working directory. Then you need data like files or icons. set -e wget http://files.pharo.org/sources/PharoV60.sources unzip pharo-core/resources/fonts/BitmapDejaVuSans.fuel -d . mkdir icon-packs cd icon-packs wget http://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-icon-packs/archive/idea11.zip cd .. pharo Pharo7.0-metacello-32bit-82ecd43.image --no-default-preferences eval --save "Metacello new baseline: 'UI';repository: 'filetree://pharo-core/src'; load" Unfortunatelly the resultant image is not usable - it immediately falls into the emergency evaluator - because of the dependencies on translation and fast table. We need to provide some care to it again because it is not generated regularly -> it gets quickly broken. -- Pavel 2017-08-28 13:47 GMT+02:00 Thierry Goubier <thierry.goubier(a)gmail.com>: > Hi Pavel, > > what would be the expression for building such an intermediate image out > of the minimal image? This? > > Metacello new > baseline: 'BasicTools'; > repository: 'github://pharo-project/pharo:master/src'; > load > > Regards, > > Thierry > > > 2017-08-28 13:24 GMT+02:00 Pavel Krivanek <pavel.krivanek(a)gmail.com>: > >> What do you expect from such minimal image? Because we can produce >> several intermediate steps on the way to the standard full Pharo image >> (BaselineOfMorphicCore, BaselineOfMorphic, BaselineOfUI, >> BaselineOfBasicTools...) >> >> -- Pavel >> >> 2017-08-28 13:17 GMT+02:00 Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com>: >> >>> oh , then its not what I am thinking as minimal image. Pity, oh well , I >>> will wait for bootstrap to mature then :) >>> >>> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 2:09 PM Pavel Krivanek <pavel.krivanek(a)gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> The minimal image is headless image without any GUI. It is useless to >>>> try to open it this way. >>>> >>>> -- Pavel >>>> >>>> 2017-08-28 13:03 GMT+02:00 Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com>: >>>> >>>>> hmm does not work for me, it open the icon of pharo on macos sierra >>>>> dock and it stays there doing nothing >>>>> right clicking on it and choosing quit does nothing, so I am have to >>>>> use force quit to make it close >>>>> >>>>> I have downloaded pharo 6.1 from the website, default download, 32 >>>>> bit, minimal 32 bit image. I drag and drop image on top of pharo. >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 10:29 AM Pavel Krivanek < >>>>> pavel.krivanek(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> 2017-08-26 19:31 GMT+02:00 Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com>: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I remember that the website used to link to a minimal image download >>>>>>> but it does not seem there is one anymore >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Is still minimal image maintained ? >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> yes, as part of the bootstrap process >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Are there ways to make a image minimal ? >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> it is created in bootstrap/scripts/build.sh under >>>>>> name Pharo7.0-metacello-* and saved on files.pharo.org as >>>>>> http://files.pharo.org/image/70/latest-minimal-32.zip or >>>>>> http://files.pharo.org/image/70/latest-minimal-64.zip >>>>>> >>>>>> So you do not need to do it by yourself. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- Pavel >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >> >

Aug. 28, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] Dark Mode

by Esteban A. Maringolo

I think it not only a matter of user preference, but also environment lighting conditions. In bright environments, as with natural light, I prefer to use the light theme. At night or with artificial light dark theme fits better. Regards, Esteban A. Maringolo 2017-08-28 9:30 GMT-03:00 Tim Mackinnon <tim(a)testit.works>: > > I found the place to adjust this - but I need to debug it as it seems my > change also effects the colour used to highlight selected text (which is > weird). > > If you modify the following method (possibly in a subclass), I found this > helped - but havenât figured out why text highlight colour would be impacted > by this change? > > configureWindowBorderFor: aWindow > "Made window borders a bit thcker and slightly lighter to its easier to > distinguish > overlapping windows" > | aStyle | > aStyle := > SimpleBorder new > color: self borderColor lighter lighter lighter; > width: 2. > aWindow borderStyle: aStyle. > > > Tim > > On 28 Aug 2017, at 01:08, PBKResearch <peter(a)pbkresearch.co.uk> wrote: > > Dimitris > > > > Update â there is a sort of bug in the screenshot, which I have caused. I > opened the page with my usual light theme, then changed themes. This updated > the colour of the background, but not the text in the foreground. If I open > the same playground display with the dark theme, the text is white and shows > up OK. But I still donât like it. > > > > Peter Kenny > > > > From: Pharo-users [mailto:pharo-users-bounces@lists.pharo.org] On Behalf Of > PBKResearch > Sent: 27 August 2017 23:48 > To: 'Any question about pharo is welcome' <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> > Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] Dark Mode > > > > Dimitris > > > > Screenshot attached. Look particularly at the text in the right-hand page of > the playground. Also the control buttons of the playground window â the > buttons go black when the window gets focus. I opened the âAboutâ window so > you can see which version I have â not yet Pharo 6.1, but not very out of > date. > > > > Peter Kenny > > > > From: Pharo-users [mailto:pharo-users-bounces@lists.pharo.org] On Behalf Of > Dimitris Chloupis > Sent: 27 August 2017 23:10 > To: Any question about pharo is welcome <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> > Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] Dark Mode > > > > Also most don't know this but light themes of Pharo were in part hard coded. > Esteban in order to create the dark theme which is based on the most popular > dark theme ( if my memory serves correctly) , Darcula , he had to remove all > this nasty code. He essentially made it possible for Pharo to have themes > without worrying about hard coded colors. So if you ever want to make the > light theme even lighter you have the dark theme to thank for making it > easier for you. > > Quite an irony , would not agree ? > > If the doctors say your eye sight is great , he knows what he is talking > about. > > Black foreground against dark grey background sound like a bug. Care to > share a screenshot ? > > On Mon, 28 Aug 2017 at 00:51, PBKResearch <peter(a)pbkresearch.co.uk> wrote: > > I agree with Dimitris - it is all a matter of preference - not all eyes are > the same. For myself, I find the default dark theme in Pharo very > uncomfortable. On my system, some elements have a black foreground on a dark > grey background, which is almost impossible to see. This is always true of > the maximise/minimise/close buttons, but sometimes also of text fields in a > playground. Whenever I download a new image, I immediately switch to the > Watery theme, with light background and nice coloured buttons on the > windows. > > Of course, my eyes may not be typical. I am now aged 84, and I have had > cataract operations on both eyes. My sight is actually quite good - my > optometrist confirms that I am legal to drive without spectacles - but my > adverse reaction to dark mode is strong and immediate. > > Just my 2p worth > > Peter Kenny > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pharo-users [mailto:pharo-users-bounces@lists.pharo.org] On Behalf Of > stephan > Sent: 27 August 2017 21:46 > To: pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org > Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] Dark Mode > > On 27-08-17 22:37, Dimitris Chloupis wrote: >> White or dark is a matter of preference. But the matter of preference >> is also a matter of biology . Not all eyes are same. > > The research is pretty clear: a large majority of developers does better > with light themes. I have been sufficiently clear on the choice to make > Pharo6 theme dark default > > Stephan >

Aug. 28, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] Dark Mode

by phil＠highoctane.be

You can eat eggs all you want provided you burn the calories. They are shock full of amino acids. Cholesterol is a precursor of testosterone, so, no cholesterol is going to put a man in a bad place. Eggs and heavy deadlifts and squats. Yay, feel the burn. Speaking of which: anyone have a .fit file binding for Pharo? See this forum thread for a clue: https://www.thisisant.com/forum/viewthread/4275 Roassal + Dataframe on fit files would be a great thing to have. Phil On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 2:20 PM, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Nutrition wise, scientists always agreed that eggs contained pretty much > everything the body needs. Problem was cholesterol which the egg does > significant rise. > > The fact that did change was that high cholesterol is bad, some doctors > would argue even deadly for ones health. Problem was that this fact was > based on a research that was on a very small group of subjects and if I am > not mistaken it was not even humans it was lab rats. > > The problem none really funded a serious research for this fact and when > they did they discovered that indeed eggs and other food do raise > cholesterol significantly but our liver is capable of reducing the > production of cholesterol to compensate hence its nowhere near as harmful > as they used to assume. > > Science is flawed mainly because finding small facts is easy and cheap but > general fact are very complex and very very expensive. > > Like all things, you get what you are paying for. This is why you see and > hear so many contradictory facts. They are mostly based on simple cheap > research. Plus "fact" is purely a fantasy, our world is too complex for > facts as most people define them. There is truth sure, but not as easy to > consume and explain as we would wish. > > The preference to light and dark themes is not product of bad scientific > research. I suspect the reasons are too complex for science anyway because > we are even eons away from explaining the human brain and how it works. > > Pharo not only allow you to choose a theme but its theme classes are > actually very easy to use which is something it inherit from Squeak. It > took me a day to create my own theme. > > The Dark UI theme class is excellent example for anyone who wants to > subclass it and create his own light or dark theme because its not that > complex. > > On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 2:57 PM Davorin Rusevljan < > davorin.rusevljan(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> If I can throw in my 2c, themes are like nutrition facts. When I was a >> kid eggs were the healthiest thing to consume in universe. Then they were a >> root of all evil, and now days are nutrition packed food. >> >> I have observed similar circles in background color usability. Pharo has >> ability to choose a theme, it has both currently fashionable and older ones >> to choose from. I do not see need for anything else on that front. >> >> Davorin Rusevljan >> >

Aug. 28, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] Dark Mode

by Tim Mackinnon

I found the place to adjust this - but I need to debug it as it seems my change also effects the colour used to highlight selected text (which is weird). If you modify the following method (possibly in a subclass), I found this helped - but havenât figured out why text highlight colour would be impacted by this change? configureWindowBorderFor: aWindow "Made window borders a bit thcker and slightly lighter to its easier to distinguish overlapping windows" | aStyle | aStyle := SimpleBorder new color: self borderColor lighter lighter lighter; width: 2. aWindow borderStyle: aStyle. Tim On 28 Aug 2017, at 01:08, PBKResearch <peter(a)pbkresearch.co.uk <mailto:peter@pbkresearch.co.uk>> wrote: > Dimitris > > Update â there is a sort of bug in the screenshot, which I have caused. I opened the page with my usual light theme, then changed themes. This updated the colour of the background, but not the text in the foreground. If I open the same playground display with the dark theme, the text is white and shows up OK. But I still donât like it. > > Peter Kenny > > From: Pharo-users [mailto:pharo-users-bounces@lists.pharo.org <mailto:pharo-users-bounces@lists.pharo.org>] On Behalf Of PBKResearch > Sent: 27 August 2017 23:48 > To: 'Any question about pharo is welcome' <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org <mailto:pharo-users@lists.pharo.org>> > Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] Dark Mode > > Dimitris > > Screenshot attached. Look particularly at the text in the right-hand page of the playground. Also the control buttons of the playground window â the buttons go black when the window gets focus. I opened the âAboutâ window so you can see which version I have â not yet Pharo 6.1, but not very out of date. > > Peter Kenny > > From: Pharo-users [mailto:pharo-users-bounces@lists.pharo.org <mailto:pharo-users-bounces@lists.pharo.org>] On Behalf Of Dimitris Chloupis > Sent: 27 August 2017 23:10 > To: Any question about pharo is welcome <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org <mailto:pharo-users@lists.pharo.org>> > Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] Dark Mode > > Also most don't know this but light themes of Pharo were in part hard coded. Esteban in order to create the dark theme which is based on the most popular dark theme ( if my memory serves correctly) , Darcula , he had to remove all this nasty code. He essentially made it possible for Pharo to have themes without worrying about hard coded colors. So if you ever want to make the light theme even lighter you have the dark theme to thank for making it easier for you. > > Quite an irony , would not agree ? > > If the doctors say your eye sight is great , he knows what he is talking about. > > Black foreground against dark grey background sound like a bug. Care to share a screenshot ? > On Mon, 28 Aug 2017 at 00:51, PBKResearch <peter(a)pbkresearch.co.uk <mailto:peter@pbkresearch.co.uk>> wrote: > I agree with Dimitris - it is all a matter of preference - not all eyes are the same. For myself, I find the default dark theme in Pharo very uncomfortable. On my system, some elements have a black foreground on a dark grey background, which is almost impossible to see. This is always true of the maximise/minimise/close buttons, but sometimes also of text fields in a playground. Whenever I download a new image, I immediately switch to the Watery theme, with light background and nice coloured buttons on the windows. > > Of course, my eyes may not be typical. I am now aged 84, and I have had cataract operations on both eyes. My sight is actually quite good - my optometrist confirms that I am legal to drive without spectacles - but my adverse reaction to dark mode is strong and immediate. > > Just my 2p worth > > Peter Kenny > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pharo-users [mailto:pharo-users-bounces@lists.pharo.org <mailto:pharo-users-bounces@lists.pharo.org>] On Behalf Of stephan > Sent: 27 August 2017 21:46 > To: pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org <mailto:pharo-users@lists.pharo.org> > Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] Dark Mode > > On 27-08-17 22:37, Dimitris Chloupis wrote: > > White or dark is a matter of preference. But the matter of preference > > is also a matter of biology . Not all eyes are same. > > The research is pretty clear: a large majority of developers does better with light themes. I have been sufficiently clear on the choice to make > Pharo6 theme dark default > > Stephan >

Aug. 28, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] Dark Mode

by Dimitris Chloupis

Nutrition wise, scientists always agreed that eggs contained pretty much everything the body needs. Problem was cholesterol which the egg does significant rise. The fact that did change was that high cholesterol is bad, some doctors would argue even deadly for ones health. Problem was that this fact was based on a research that was on a very small group of subjects and if I am not mistaken it was not even humans it was lab rats. The problem none really funded a serious research for this fact and when they did they discovered that indeed eggs and other food do raise cholesterol significantly but our liver is capable of reducing the production of cholesterol to compensate hence its nowhere near as harmful as they used to assume. Science is flawed mainly because finding small facts is easy and cheap but general fact are very complex and very very expensive. Like all things, you get what you are paying for. This is why you see and hear so many contradictory facts. They are mostly based on simple cheap research. Plus "fact" is purely a fantasy, our world is too complex for facts as most people define them. There is truth sure, but not as easy to consume and explain as we would wish. The preference to light and dark themes is not product of bad scientific research. I suspect the reasons are too complex for science anyway because we are even eons away from explaining the human brain and how it works. Pharo not only allow you to choose a theme but its theme classes are actually very easy to use which is something it inherit from Squeak. It took me a day to create my own theme. The Dark UI theme class is excellent example for anyone who wants to subclass it and create his own light or dark theme because its not that complex. On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 2:57 PM Davorin Rusevljan < davorin.rusevljan(a)gmail.com> wrote: > If I can throw in my 2c, themes are like nutrition facts. When I was a kid > eggs were the healthiest thing to consume in universe. Then they were a > root of all evil, and now days are nutrition packed food. > > I have observed similar circles in background color usability. Pharo has > ability to choose a theme, it has both currently fashionable and older ones > to choose from. I do not see need for anything else on that front. > > Davorin Rusevljan >

Aug. 28, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] How do I get at the Morphic halos in Pharo 6.0?

by Tim Mackinnon

On OSX, you hold the Shift and Alt keys and then click on something. I think on windows its probably Shift+Alt or Shift+Ctrl. The in-image help explains this under - Pharo Environment Help - Keyboard Shortcuts - Visual Exploration. Tim > On 28 Aug 2017, at 13:33, H. Hirzel <hannes.hirzel(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > On 8/28/17, phil(a)highoctane.be <phil(a)highoctane.be> wrote: > > .... >> >> Dark theme : can code for hours without any trouble. >> >> At the office I am at now 90% of coders are using dark themes. >> >> Indeed the windows buttons are annoying, I have my own little hack to make >> them better. >> When a control bugs you, bring a halo and try to reverse the form, usually >> makes things readable. >> >> Phil > > Phil, > > I was not aware that it is still possible to get Morphic halos in Pharo 6.0? > > How do I get at them? > > Regards > Hannes >

Aug. 28, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] Dark Mode

by H. Hirzel

On 8/28/17, Davorin Rusevljan <davorin.rusevljan(a)gmail.com> wrote: > If I can throw in my 2c, themes are like nutrition facts. When I was a kid > eggs were the healthiest thing to consume in universe. Then they were a > root of all evil, and now days are nutrition packed food. In the meantime eggs are fine again, I think :-) > I have observed similar circles in background color usability. Pharo has > ability to choose a theme, it has both currently fashionable and older ones > to choose from. I do not see need for anything else on that front. > > Davorin Rusevljan >

Aug. 28, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] Dark Mode

by Davorin Rusevljan

If I can throw in my 2c, themes are like nutrition facts. When I was a kid eggs were the healthiest thing to consume in universe. Then they were a root of all evil, and now days are nutrition packed food. I have observed similar circles in background color usability. Pharo has ability to choose a theme, it has both currently fashionable and older ones to choose from. I do not see need for anything else on that front. Davorin Rusevljan

Aug. 28, 2017