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Re: [Pharo-users] Yet another Pharo in docker

by Marcus Denker

Hi, I would like to coordinate to have something official in April. Marcus > On 21 Mar 2018, at 18:32, Herbert VojÄÃk <herby(a)mailbox.sk> wrote: > > BTW, Sean (or anyone else), if you still find this docker useful, should I add you as contributor in dockerhub and write access in git so you could make builds for 70 (I do not use 70, so not knowing when is it the good point to make new build). Or is there some ETA to official one built from Pharo jenkins itself? > > Herby > > Herbert VojÄÃk wrote: >> >> >> Herbert VojÄÃk wrote: >>> >>> >>> Sean P. DeNigris wrote: >>>> Sean P. DeNigris wrote >>>>>> https://hub.docker.com/r/herbysk/pharo/ >>>>> How are the images built from https://lolg.it/herby/pharo-docker? >>>> >>>> Researching a bit it seems that Docker Hub only supports GitHub and >>>> BitBucket, and IIUC you can't change the image name if you use >>>> automated >>>> building. Therefore, I assume you're going something custom. Is it >>>> manual? >>> >>> Manual. I actually replied to original question, but mail got stuck in >>> moderation b/c it has empty subject or something. >>> >>> Whenever I see there is significant change / the project needs to have >>> the new changes in, I rebuild and reupload manually. >> >> Also, I pointed out in that lost mail, I only created this docker out of >> necessity since there isn't pharo official one. Having official one >> generated from Jenkins would be nice. >> >>> >>> Herby >>> >>>> Or is there a way to set up triggers for a custom solution? Thanks. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- >>>> Cheers, >>>> Sean >>>> -- >>>> Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html >>>> >>> >> >

March 22, 2018

Commits Using Iceberg

by Asbath

Hi everybody, I am using Iceberg on Pharo 6. My OS is Ubuntu 16.04. When I try to commit my local changes on the remote branch, the Pharo Image is closed, when I click on Commit and Push (after providing the comment). Those commits are registered, but not published. I don't know what is the matter !? Thanks, have a nice day Asbath

March 22, 2018

Re: [Pharo-users] Unable to execute example code from "The Spec UI Framework" Book

by Stephane Ducasse

On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 1:41 AM, brett <dragoncitybrett(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Thank you -- of course ! I had that "ui close" in my code !!! , I'd expected > the > form to take control until I exited the form itself and had not considered > the code would 'fall straight through' to the 'ui close' > > > The example form now displays on Pharo's World and is active as expected. > > From my experience with trying to get this example working, I think the > chapter needs a bit of expansion & more explanation > about some features used. The Class method creation verse the instance > methods being an example. I guess the authors assume most people will have > worked with Pharo without jumping straight to the GUI interfacing !! Indeed. We cannot add Pharo by example in all the books we write :) > > Thank you all for your help, getting this example running is a very > important step to understanding Pharo's UI. > > > > > > -- > Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html >

March 22, 2018

Re: [Pharo-users] Unable to execute example code from "The Spec UI Framework" Book

by brett

Thank you -- of course ! I had that "ui close" in my code !!! , I'd expected the form to take control until I exited the form itself and had not considered the code would 'fall straight through' to the 'ui close' The example form now displays on Pharo's World and is active as expected. >From my experience with trying to get this example working, I think the chapter needs a bit of expansion & more explanation about some features used. The Class method creation verse the instance methods being an example. I guess the authors assume most people will have worked with Pharo without jumping straight to the GUI interfacing !! Thank you all for your help, getting this example running is a very important step to understanding Pharo's UI. -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html

March 22, 2018

Re: [Pharo-users] Problem setting up Tide demo

by herby＠mailbox.sk

On March 21, 2018 11:18:42 PM GMT+01:00, in_pharo_users(a)nym.hush.com wrote: >Hi Esteban, hi Herbert, > >so, formally, it is a Tide integration issue now, IMHO. > >As I understand it now: > >Tide's setup procedure generates a file system out of a Monticello >archive >and puts Tide related extensions for Amber in it. Then the user is >directed to that fs's root >to install Amber. (That seems a little odd, as these extensions are to >be integrated >in the Amber image and seem to have a stonger adhesion there.) > >The part of the procedure to install Tide is now invalid relating to >Amber. > >Should I try the following: > >*** > >I have a brand new allmost perfectly working Amber installation. > >I scavenge the elements mentioned by Herbert below and move them to >the Tide stub, >instead of using the Tide/Monticello generated 'bower install' script. No, if Tide's approach is to generate a skeleton which only needs to get dependencies, then it is very reasonable approach indeed. The 'amber init' command actually does the same: fills fs from template then runs 'npm install' to get tooling, 'bower install' to get project dependencies, including amber itself, 'grunt' to compile .st files into .js files and 'grunt devel' to set up environment to development mode loader. 'That seems a little odd, as these extensions are to be integrated in the Amber image' not odd at all as there is no true image - that whole filetree is 'the source for the image build' and actual 'image' only exists at runtime by loading all components into memory. Amber is just another library to load. So if tide indeed fills fs with all the needed pieces so it then only needs a few 'load deps' steps, then make it work by hand, then simply remove all transient pieces (node_modules/, bower_components/, config.js, src/*.js) and you have nice new state in which it should all start. You should then update the old tide seed file tree with the new updated one. >Then run 'grunt devel'. >Is this all I need? > >Is there a way to explicitly describe the objects I need? >Or is there a way to check what exactly is missing? > >*** > >But would it not be a better approach to update the Tide setup >procedure? >How would that work? >Kind regards, > >basket >On 21.3.2018 at 9:54 PM, "Herbert VojÄÃk" wrote:In newer version of >Amber the loading code changed significantly, as >promises are used (best way to migrate old code is to actually created > >new project using `amber init` and only move the needed pieces >(src/*.st >files, .amd.json files, lists of packages in deploy.js / testing.js / >devel.js / Gruntfile.js) to the new structure). > >Also "searched in bower path" is wrong, paths are mapped differently, >using .amd.json files (which I think are set correctly), but of >course, >`grunt devel` must be run at least once for mapping to happen (it is >run >as part of `amber init`, so new project is set up fine; but in case >.amd.json files are changed, it should be rerun). > >Herby > >in_pharo_users(a)nym.hush.com wrote: >> Hi Esteban, >> >> after I got Amber running separately, I set up Tide according to >> >> https://github.com/tide-framework/tide >> ; readme.md >> >> Everything went fine so far, but after the page loaded, Helios did >not >> pop. Blank page. >> >> So I looked into the page source and, suspiciously, at line 18 I >found >> >> **** >> >> require( >> [ >> "amber/devel", >> "amber/helpers", >> "tide/Tide-Amber-Core", >> "tide/Tide-Amber-Exceptions", >> "tide/Tide-Amber-Examples", >> "tide/Tide-Amber-Tests" >> ], >> function (smalltalk) { >> smalltalk.initialize({defaultAmdNamespace: 'tide'}); >> smalltalk.popupHelios(); >> } >> **** >> >> I searched for all required paths in the bower path, but could not >find only the first two. >> >> Can you kindly give me a hint how to proceed to get it running? >> >> Kind regards, >> >> basket >>

March 21, 2018

Re: [Pharo-users] Problem setting up Tide demo

by in_pharo_users＠nym.hush.com

Hi Esteban, hi Herbert, so, formally, it is a Tide integration issue now, IMHO. As I understand it now: Tide's setup procedure generates a file system out of a Monticello archive and puts Tide related extensions for Amber in it. Then the user is directed to that fs's root to install Amber. (That seems a little odd, as these extensions are to be integrated in the Amber image and seem to have a stonger adhesion there.) The part of the procedure to install Tide is now invalid relating to Amber. Should I try the following: *** I have a brand new allmost perfectly working Amber installation. I scavenge the elements mentioned by Herbert below and move them to the Tide stub, instead of using the Tide/Monticello generated 'bower install' script. Then run 'grunt devel'. Is this all I need? Is there a way to explicitly describe the objects I need? Or is there a way to check what exactly is missing? *** But would it not be a better approach to update the Tide setup procedure? How would that work? Kind regards, basket On 21.3.2018 at 9:54 PM, "Herbert VojÄÃk" wrote:In newer version of Amber the loading code changed significantly, as promises are used (best way to migrate old code is to actually created new project using `amber init` and only move the needed pieces (src/*.st files, .amd.json files, lists of packages in deploy.js / testing.js / devel.js / Gruntfile.js) to the new structure). Also "searched in bower path" is wrong, paths are mapped differently, using .amd.json files (which I think are set correctly), but of course, `grunt devel` must be run at least once for mapping to happen (it is run as part of `amber init`, so new project is set up fine; but in case .amd.json files are changed, it should be rerun). Herby in_pharo_users(a)nym.hush.com wrote: > Hi Esteban, > > after I got Amber running separately, I set up Tide according to > > https://github.com/tide-framework/tide > ; readme.md > > Everything went fine so far, but after the page loaded, Helios did not > pop. Blank page. > > So I looked into the page source and, suspiciously, at line 18 I found > > **** > > require( > [ > "amber/devel", > "amber/helpers", > "tide/Tide-Amber-Core", > "tide/Tide-Amber-Exceptions", > "tide/Tide-Amber-Examples", > "tide/Tide-Amber-Tests" > ], > function (smalltalk) { > smalltalk.initialize({defaultAmdNamespace: 'tide'}); > smalltalk.popupHelios(); > } > **** > > I searched for all required paths in the bower path, but could not find only the first two. > > Can you kindly give me a hint how to proceed to get it running? > > Kind regards, > > basket >

March 21, 2018

Re: [Pharo-users] Issues with recent Pharos reading files

by Andrew P. Black

> On 20 Mar 2018, at 23:01 , Guillermo Polito <guillermopolito(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > @Andrew, about the directories issue, can you provide me a full stack trace and even better a way to reproduce it? I sent a lengthy message in this thread explaining the circumstances. Is that enough? If not I can try opening a file many times and see if I can reproduce the breaking of the primitive. Iâm pretty sure thatâs what was happening (many hours of debugging on an aeroplane), but did not try to recreate the problem â I was just glad to be able to fix it and move on with my work. And my battery was dead. 9 hours on a B 737-200 with no power :-(. Pharo eats batteries for breakfast, lunch and dinner! Andrew

March 21, 2018

Re: [Pharo-users] Problem setting up Tide demo

by Herbert VojÄÃk

In newer version of Amber the loading code changed significantly, as promises are used (best way to migrate old code is to actually created new project using `amber init` and only move the needed pieces (src/*.st files, .amd.json files, lists of packages in deploy.js / testing.js / devel.js / Gruntfile.js) to the new structure). Also "searched in bower path" is wrong, paths are mapped differently, using .amd.json files (which I think are set correctly), but of course, `grunt devel` must be run at least once for mapping to happen (it is run as part of `amber init`, so new project is set up fine; but in case .amd.json files are changed, it should be rerun). Herby in_pharo_users(a)nym.hush.com wrote: > Hi Esteban, > > after I got Amber running separately, I set up Tide according to > > https://github.com/tide-framework/tide > <https://github.com/tide-framework/tide >; readme.md > > Everything went fine so far, but after the page loaded, Helios did not > pop. Blank page. > > So I looked into the page source and, suspiciously, at line 18 I found > > **** > > require( > [ > "amber/devel", > "amber/helpers", > "tide/Tide-Amber-Core", > "tide/Tide-Amber-Exceptions", > "tide/Tide-Amber-Examples", > "tide/Tide-Amber-Tests" > ], > function (smalltalk) { > smalltalk.initialize({defaultAmdNamespace: 'tide'}); > smalltalk.popupHelios(); > } > **** > > I searched for all required paths in the bower path, but could not find only the first two. > > Can you kindly give me a hint how to proceed to get it running? > > Kind regards, > > basket > > > > > > > > >

March 21, 2018

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo sound with SDL Library

by Stephane Ducasse

Thanks for the news! If you can provide a little example of WAVParser it will help. On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 4:50 PM, Mariano Badoglio <marianobadoglio(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Perfect! I have loaded the Merwan WAVParser project, that uses the > OpenAL library and it worked fine. > > Best regards! > Mariano > > > El 19/03/18 a las 16:32, Stephane Ducasse escribiÃ³: >> Yes we should migrate it and probably include it in Pharo and clean it. >> >> Stef >> >> On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 6:59 PM, Mariano Badoglio >> <marianobadoglio(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> Hi Stephean, Sean, >>> >>> Thanks for your response. I have installed the Monticello Package >>> "Sound" from http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/PharoExtras/Sound/main, the last >>> update is Sound-StephaneDucasse.80 package from year 2013. It is from >>> Pharo Extras. Is this the right package? >>> >>> Best regards, >>> Mariano >>> >>> >>> El 17/03/18 a las 16:05, Stephane Ducasse escribiÃ³: >>>> Hi mariano >>>> >>>> did you try the sound package that is on Smalltalkhub/Pharo? or >>>> PharoExtras. We should migrate it to pharo 70 >>>> >>>> Stef >>>> >>>> On Sat, Mar 17, 2018 at 1:14 PM, Mariano Badoglio >>>> <marianobadoglio(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> Hello! >>>>> >>>>> I need to use the Pharo Sound over Ubuntu platform, but I couldn't get >>>>> it work. I tryied sending the parameter vm-sound-OSS and vm-sound-ALSA >>>>> to the vm but I get no results. >>>>> >>>>> I am now trying to use the SDL Library. I could initialize the sound >>>>> SDL_Init(SDL_INIT_AUDIO), very similar to initializing video, but when >>>>> trying to use the SDL_LoadWAV, it needs a SDL_AudioSpec data type and I >>>>> do not know how to do it. I tried to use an Structure as parameter but >>>>> with no result, I couldn't found any similar example to follow. I will >>>>> appreciate any help or tips on this. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks in advance. Best regards, >>>>> Mariano. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> >> > >

March 21, 2018

Re: [Pharo-users] Problem setting up Tide demo

by Esteban Lorenzano

hi, no idea :) as I said this is more a matter for Amber list than Pharo. but amber maintainer (Herbert) hangs here so he will probably reply if he sees this :P Esteban > On 21 Mar 2018, at 21:42, in_pharo_users(a)nym.hush.com wrote: > > Hi Esteban, > > after I got Amber running separately, I set up Tide according to > > https://github.com/tide-framework/tideÂ <https://github.com/tide-framework/tide%C2%A0>; readme.md > > Everything went fine so far, but after the page loaded, Helios did not pop. Blank page. > > So I looked into the page source and, suspiciously, at line 18 I found > > **** > require( > [ > "amber/devel", > "amber/helpers", > "tide/Tide-Amber-Core", > "tide/Tide-Amber-Exceptions", > "tide/Tide-Amber-Examples", > "tide/Tide-Amber-Tests" > ], > function (smalltalk) { > smalltalk.initialize({defaultAmdNamespace: 'tide'}); > smalltalk.popupHelios(); > } > **** > > I searched for all required paths in the bower path, but could not find only the first two. > > Can you kindly give me a hint how to proceed to get it running? > > Kind regards, > > basket > > > > > > > >

March 21, 2018