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Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo Launcher

by Benoit St-Jean

It would be nice if I could uninstall the previous version...Â :( https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/21705/Pharo-Launcher-cannot-uninstall-on-… ----------------- BenoÃ®t St-Jean Yahoo! Messenger: bstjean Twitter: @BenLeChialeux Pinterest: benoitstjean Instagram: Chef_Benito IRC: lamneth Blogue: endormitoire.wordpress.com "A standpoint is an intellectual horizon of radius zero".Â (A. Einstein) On Sunday, April 15, 2018, 6:07:15 p.m. EDT, phil(a)highoctane.be <phil(a)highoctane.be> wrote: Go toÂ http://files.pharo.org/pharo-launcher/bleedingEdge/Â Install using the MSI, the laucher should go into %APPDATA% and images/vms to %DOCUMENTS%/Pharo/... This is the observed behavior of that new version. Older versions worked differently on Windows 10. Best,Phil On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 12:02 AM, Benoit St-Jean via Pharo-users <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> wrote: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From:Â Benoit St-Jean <bstjean(a)yahoo.com> To:Â Ben Coman <btc(a)openinworld.com> Cc:Â Any question about pharo is welcome <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org>, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> Bcc:Â Date:Â Sun, 15 Apr 2018 22:02:35 +0000 (UTC) Subject:Â Re: Pharo Launcher "What path did you install to?" The installer put it in: C:\Users\BenoÃ®t St-Jean\AppData\Local\ Programs\Pharo\ BCPharoLauncher> ----------------- BenoÃ®t St-Jean Yahoo! Messenger: bstjean Twitter: @BenLeChialeux Pinterest: benoitstjean Instagram: Chef_Benito IRC: lamneth Blogue: endormitoire.wordpress.com "A standpoint is an intellectual horizon of radius zero".Â (A. Einstein)

April 15, 2018

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo Launcher

by Benoit St-Jean

Tried it, doesn't work. Changing the .js file didn't change anything.Â The problem occurs in the image... Problem seems to be (in my case) 1) the accentuated "Ã" which cannot be handled properly in a path FileReference (expecting UTF-8 encoding but the string is seen as a Latin-1 2) PlatformResolver>>launcherUserFilesLocation that defaults to my "Documents" folder, namely "C:\Users\BenoÃ®t St-Jean\Documents", hence the path string encoding problem ----------------- BenoÃ®t St-Jean Yahoo! Messenger: bstjean Twitter: @BenLeChialeux Pinterest: benoitstjean Instagram: Chef_Benito IRC: lamneth Blogue: endormitoire.wordpress.com "A standpoint is an intellectual horizon of radius zero".Â (A. Einstein) On Sunday, April 15, 2018, 6:04:22 p.m. EDT, phil(a)highoctane.be <phil(a)highoctane.be> wrote: Install the bleeding edge thing, it works for me on win 10.Â I also noticed that the launcher runs images with VMs that do have a weird management of cursors in the dark themes, it seems that there the masks are not used properly and so, the dark arrow has no white border making it impossible to see.It was not like that before, so I suspect a VM thing. Phil On Sun, Apr 15, 2018 at 9:00 PM, Hilaire <hilaire(a)drgeo.eu> wrote: Can you make a search for your PharoDebug.log, because I can see, at least on P7 and Linux, this file is not always located nearby the image but at the user root directory. Hilaire Le 15/04/2018 Ã 20:52, Benoit St-Jean via Pharo-users a Ã©critÂ : Downloaded it.Â Installed it.Â Started it.Â Selected an image.Â Bam.Â The app vanished. Also tried on a brand-new-and-fresh-Windows-10 -machine-with-nothing-previous ly-installed and same thing. The app doesn't even show in the task manager. And no error file was created. -- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu

April 15, 2018

Re: [Pharo-users] Where do we go now ?

by Todd Blanchard

Or just expand the names to be descriptive. CalypsoClassBrowser would be cool > On Apr 13, 2018, at 5:39 AM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> On 13 Apr 2018, at 14:33, Andrew Glynn <aglynn42(a)gmail.com <mailto:aglynn42@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> I find NPM as obscure as Pharo, honestly, and VA Smalltalk is worse (wth does abt or sst stand for?). Grunt, Gulp, etc., how do the names relate to what they do? > > yesâ¦ but we actually have a problem there. > I would like to be able to add âtags" to tools, to be able to say: > > Calypso -> a class browser -> some more info > etc. > > Esteban > >> >> Electron is as obscure as Phobos (although a phobia with web pages turned into desktop apps may be appropriate). >> >> Andrew >> >> On Fri, 2018-04-13 at 14:18 +0200, Peter UhnÃ¡k wrote: >>> On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 2:05 PM, Richard O'Keefe <raoknz(a)gmail.com <mailto:raoknz@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>> There are a lot of subsystems in Pharo, and being a bear of >>>> very little brain, I have a hard time relating Zinc, Calypso, >>>> &c &c to, well, whatever they are. I presume there is >>>> somewhere a list of topic/name/PFX triples for guidance. >>>> Can some kind soul tell me where it is? >>>> >>> >>> Until we have mature package manager (similar to Cargo or npm), you have to use google. >>> On the bright side, with the move to git(hub), people are much more likely to actually describe what their project does, and maybe even a bit of documentation. This was almost non-existent with SmalltalkHub. >>> >>> Peter >

April 15, 2018

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo Launcher

by phil＠highoctane.be

Go to http://files.pharo.org/pharo-launcher/bleedingEdge/ Install using the MSI, the laucher should go into %APPDATA% and images/vms to %DOCUMENTS%/Pharo/... This is the observed behavior of that new version. Older versions worked differently on Windows 10. Best, Phil On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 12:02 AM, Benoit St-Jean via Pharo-users < pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> wrote: > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Benoit St-Jean <bstjean(a)yahoo.com> > To: Ben Coman <btc(a)openinworld.com> > Cc: Any question about pharo is welcome <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org>, > Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> > Bcc: > Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2018 22:02:35 +0000 (UTC) > Subject: Re: Pharo Launcher > "What path did you install to?" > > > The installer put it in: > > C:\Users\BenoÃ®t St-Jean\AppData\Local\Programs\Pharo\BCPharoLauncher> > > > ----------------- > BenoÃ®t St-Jean > Yahoo! Messenger: bstjean > Twitter: @BenLeChialeux > Pinterest: benoitstjean > Instagram: Chef_Benito > IRC: lamneth > Blogue: endormitoire.wordpress.com > "A standpoint is an intellectual horizon of radius zero". (A. Einstein) > >

April 15, 2018

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo Launcher

by phil＠highoctane.be

Install the bleeding edge thing, it works for me on win 10. I also noticed that the launcher runs images with VMs that do have a weird management of cursors in the dark themes, it seems that there the masks are not used properly and so, the dark arrow has no white border making it impossible to see. It was not like that before, so I suspect a VM thing. Phil On Sun, Apr 15, 2018 at 9:00 PM, Hilaire <hilaire(a)drgeo.eu> wrote: > Can you make a search for your PharoDebug.log, because I can see, at least > on P7 and Linux, this file is not always located nearby the image but at > the user root directory. > > Hilaire > > > Le 15/04/2018 Ã 20:52, Benoit St-Jean via Pharo-users a Ã©crit : > >> Downloaded it. Installed it. Started it. Selected an image. Bam. The >> app vanished. >> >> Also tried on a brand-new-and-fresh-Windows-10 >> -machine-with-nothing-previously-installed and same thing. >> >> The app doesn't even show in the task manager. >> >> And no error file was created. >> >> > -- > Dr. Geo > http://drgeo.eu > > > > >

April 15, 2018

Re: Pharo Launcher

by Benoit St-Jean

"What path did you install to?" The installer put it in: C:\Users\BenoÃ®t St-Jean\AppData\Local\Programs\Pharo\BCPharoLauncher> ----------------- BenoÃ®t St-Jean Yahoo! Messenger: bstjean Twitter: @BenLeChialeux Pinterest: benoitstjean Instagram: Chef_Benito IRC: lamneth Blogue: endormitoire.wordpress.com "A standpoint is an intellectual horizon of radius zero".Â (A. Einstein)

April 15, 2018

Re: [Pharo-users] Where do we go now ?

by Benoit St-Jean

"I don't understand what you mean.Â Â There is a setting that *gives* you the opportunity to decide." I have no clue, I've never been able to actually have PharoLauncher start & work!!! ----------------- BenoÃ®t St-Jean Yahoo! Messenger: bstjean Twitter: @BenLeChialeux Pinterest: benoitstjean Instagram: Chef_Benito IRC: lamneth Blogue: endormitoire.wordpress.com "A standpoint is an intellectual horizon of radius zero".Â (A. Einstein)

April 15, 2018

Re: [Pharo-users] Where do we go now ?

by Ben Coman

On 16 April 2018 at 03:46, Benoit St-Jean <bstjean(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >> >> "As a work around, in the PharoLauncher settings can you set the directories like >> C:\PharoLauncher\images >> C:\PharoLauncher\vms >> and report if that helps. >> " > Or even better, let the user decide! I don't understand what you mean. There is a setting that *gives* you the opportunity to decide. >> and report if that helps. What was the result of my suggestion provided above? Also, with the MSI I provided in the other link, can you try installing under C:\PharoLauncher. cheers -ben

April 15, 2018

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo Launcher

by Ben Coman

On 16 April 2018 at 02:52, Benoit St-Jean <bstjean(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > "To be clear, the problem was heavily influenced by the constraints of an > external tool. > Get PharoLauncher installed in the right location and it works like a > dream. > Did you try the proof-of-concept installer I posted previously to the > list... > http://www.mediafire.com/file/3g579bmzqspt8e1/BCPharoLauncher.msi > " > > Downloaded it. Installed it. > What path did you install to? cheers -ben > Started it. Selected an image. Bam. The app vanished. > > Also tried on a brand-new-and-fresh-Windows-10-machine-with-nothing-previously-installed > and same thing. > > The app doesn't even show in the task manager. > > And no error file was created. > > If that helps, both machines have Windows in French installed. >

April 15, 2018

Re: [Pharo-users] Where do we go now ?

by Cyril Ferlicot D.

Le 13/04/2018 Ã 14:27, Denis Kudriashov a Ã©critÂ : > At some point we should force rule "All packages have comments". And > indication with icon like we do for classes. > With Calypso the package comment is always available. So it would be > easy to find description. > > I would like to force this rule too but it'll need some work because some packages are not only loaded in Pharo (as Alien) and PackageManifest is not present in Squeak image. -- Cyril Ferlicot https://ferlicot.fr

April 15, 2018