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Window size: look at ClyBrowserMorph>>initialExtent

by Davide Varvello

Hi Guys,It seems to me the default size of a lot of windows is too small, so after some search and thanks to thisÂ https://stackoverflow.com/questions/55102480/how-do-i-change-the-default-he… by Marko GrdiniÄ I discovered I can change the default size of many type of windows simply changing ClyBrowserMorph>>initialExtent.HTH It would be good to be able to manage the size of windows in Settings CheersDavide

May 10, 2024

IWST Paper Submission Deadline is Approaching!

by Guillermo Polito

Dear community, IWST invites everybody to submit full/short papers to be considered to be plublished in the IWST 2024 Proceedings. Papers can both be presented in the conference's IWST track and appear in proceedings independently of the initially submitted abstracts. Full/short paper submission deadline: May 19th, 2024 We are looking for papers of two kinds: - Short position papers (5 to 10 pages) describing fresh ideas and early results. - Full papers (more than 10 pages) with deeper description of experiments and of research results. Paper accepted for publishing will be published within a *CEUR-WS Proceedings>https://ceur-ws.org/*. Hence, both submissions and final papers must be prepared using the *CEUR ART style>https://ceur-ws.org/Vol-XXX/CEURART.zip*. We recommend to use the template in single column style, although you may use two colums. CEUR proceedings accepts papers in boths styles as soon as they follow the template and have 5 or more pages. The IWST team, Gordana, Guille and Steven https://esug.org/2024-Conference/IWST2024.html

May 10, 2024

Re: The System Browser has recently started showing 2 comments tabs - one is text and one is formatted pretty. That seems odd and is not wanted...

by Davide Varvello

Hi Guys, Any news about this issue? It's happening also to me. CheersDavide On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 07:03:43 AM GMT+1, Mark O'Donoghue <mark.odonoghue.2010(a)gmail.com> wrote: Hi Stephane Â Many thanks for following up on the issue with the extra comment tab in the System Browser. Â As requested, I have included more information below: Â Versions Over the last few days, I have seen the issue in Build information: Pharo-10.0.0+build.536.sha.2314c3f457171dcde477ff6575b578835f1fd519 (64 Bit) I believe this is the latest stable P10 release for Windows 64. It was created as a new image via Pharo Launcher version: 3.0.1 Â Previously I was using Build information: Pharo-10.0.0+build.515.sha.b18847fed2389428342d35b0056824644a1ce5fe (64 Bit) And I was getting the normal comment tab behaviour. I still can see that when I fire up that old image. Â Background I had not used Pharo since July 2022, and before resuming work I decided to create a fresh new P10 image to work with. Using the launcher, I created a new image based on the Pharo 10 (stable) image. And of course it updated the Windows 64 VM as well for me. I then reloaded my code base and started work. Pretty soon I noticed the odd behaviour with the System Browser. I then posed the question on discord for guidance. Â Since then, I tried to simplify the issue by creating another new image based on Pharo 10 (stable). This time I didnât make any changes, alter settings, or loading any code or libraries. I checked the simple image and verified that the System Browser issue was happening. Because this is just the âvanillaâ image, unchanged by me, I a hoping it will be easy to verify this behaviour at your endâ¦ Â Â Cheers and regards Mark Perth, Western Australia Â From: stephane ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> Sent: Sunday, 8 January 2023 10:43 PM To: Any question about pharo is welcome <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> Subject: [Pharo-users] Re: The System Browser has recently started showing 2 comments tabs - one is text and one is formatted pretty. That seems odd and is not wanted - has anyone else seen this? Pharo 10 stable image - windows 64 - all reloaded recently... Â Hi markÂ Â Which version of Pharo are you using? In P11 I saw some regressions. S On 8 Jan 2023, at 14:30, mark.odonoghue.2010(a)gmail.com wrote: Â Â

May 9, 2024

Re: [Esug-list] Re: [Pharo-dev] Re: [ANN] Soil release v1

by Dale Henrichs

> > But ground stone is just sand. Thereâs more than just sand in soil. Soil > should have the other ingredients needed for growth. :) I was trying to make a reference to a GemStone *stone *:) Dale On Wed, May 8, 2024 at 1:27â¯PM Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: > > > Am 08.05.2024 um 16:14 schrieb Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name>: > > ï»¿ > > Am 06.05.2024 um 16:47 schrieb Dirk Nel <dirkockertnel(a)gmail.com>: > > I'll definitely check it out..! and for those who are not in the know... > what inspired the name? :) > > > - I like the word > - It has only four letters which qualifies as a class prefix > - To me as a non-native speaker it means: ground layer you can build/grow > on > > - people having fun with it > > Mission accomplished > > N. > > > Norbert > > > On Wed, 24 Apr 2024 at 17:47, Tim Mackinnon <tim(a)testit.works> wrote: > >> That's really exciting news... appreciate you sharing it with the wider >> community (I know when you mentioned its existence a while back I went and >> watched the Esug recordings to get more info, and looked at some of the >> extensive test cases to get a feel on what it looked like - its neat). >> >> Having multiple options for persisting data (from simple Fuel up to Soil >> and Glorp and Gemstone) is very useful. >> >> Tim >> >> On Wed, 24 Apr 2024, at 12:52 PM, Norbert Hartl wrote: >> >> ...we said at last ESUG that there will be a release soonish but as usual >> it doesn't go that fast. >> >> But now we are very happy to announce that Soil has a first public >> release v1. So what is soil? >> >> Soil is an object oriented database in pharo <http://pharo.org/>. It is >> transaction based having ACID transactions. It has binary search >> capabilities with SkipList and BTree+ indexes. It aims to be a simple yet >> powerful database making it easy to develop with, easy to debug with, easy >> to inspect, ... >> >> More details at https://github.com/ApptiveGrid/Soil >> >> This release is still considered early stage because >> >> >> - although in ApptiveGrid there are over 4000 instances of it and >> there are other users there isn't a wider range of use cases, yet. So it is >> not fully battle tested. This just as reminder when you start compaining I >> need somewhere to point my finger to and say "I told you!" ;) >> - there are few things missing that you might expect like garbage >> collection, etc. >> >> >> So but it is definetely usable and awaiting the brave ones of you to try. >> >> Hopy you enjoy it! >> >> Norbert & Marcus >> _______________________________________________ >> Esug-list mailing list -- esug-list(a)lists.esug.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to esug-list-leave(a)lists.esug.org >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Esug-list mailing list -- esug-list(a)lists.esug.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to esug-list-leave(a)lists.esug.org >> > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list -- esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to esug-list-leave(a)lists.esug.org > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list -- esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to esug-list-leave(a)lists.esug.org >

May 8, 2024

Re: [Pharo-dev] Re: [Esug-list] [ANN] Soil release v1

by Norbert Hartl

May 8, 2024

Re: [Esug-list] Re: [ANN] Soil release v1

by Sabine M

I am always thinking of this movie when hearing âSoilâ. Googling for it now, I see that it has another spelling. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soylent_Green Gesendet von Outlook fÃ¼r iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef> ________________________________ Von: Cody Sevier <sevierit(a)gmail.com> Gesendet: Wednesday, May 8, 2024 5:43:24 PM An: Any question about pharo is welcome <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> Cc: Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name>; Dirk Nel <dirkockertnel(a)gmail.com>; Pharo Dev <pharo-dev(a)lists.pharo.org>; Tetaz, Jean-Pierre via Esug-list <esug-list(a)lists.esug.org> Betreff: [Pharo-users] Re: [Esug-list] Re: [ANN] Soil release v1 Or soiling yourself, aka incontinence... Isn't English illogical fun! Cody On Wed, May 8, 2024, 10:41â¯AM Dale Henrichs <dale.henrichs(a)gemtalksystems.com<mailto:dale.henrichs@gemtalksystems.com>> wrote: To me as a non-native speaker it means: ground layer you can build/grow on Haha, Soil can also be thought of as "ground up stone" :) Dale On Wed, May 8, 2024 at 7:13â¯AM Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name<mailto:norbert@hartl.name>> wrote: Am 06.05.2024 um 16:47 schrieb Dirk Nel <dirkockertnel(a)gmail.com<mailto:dirkockertnel@gmail.com>>: I'll definitely check it out..! and for those who are not in the know... what inspired the name? :) - I like the word - It has only four letters which qualifies as a class prefix - To me as a non-native speaker it means: ground layer you can build/grow on Norbert On Wed, 24 Apr 2024 at 17:47, Tim Mackinnon <tim(a)testit.works> wrote: That's really exciting news... appreciate you sharing it with the wider community (I know when you mentioned its existence a while back I went and watched the Esug recordings to get more info, and looked at some of the extensive test cases to get a feel on what it looked like - its neat). Having multiple options for persisting data (from simple Fuel up to Soil and Glorp and Gemstone) is very useful. Tim On Wed, 24 Apr 2024, at 12:52 PM, Norbert Hartl wrote: ...we said at last ESUG that there will be a release soonish but as usual it doesn't go that fast. But now we are very happy to announce that Soil has a first public release v1. So what is soil? Soil is an object oriented database in pharo<http://pharo.org/>. It is transaction based having ACID transactions. It has binary search capabilities with SkipList and BTree+ indexes. It aims to be a simple yet powerful database making it easy to develop with, easy to debug with, easy to inspect, ... More details at https://github.com/ApptiveGrid/Soil This release is still considered early stage because * although in ApptiveGrid there are over 4000 instances of it and there are other users there isn't a wider range of use cases, yet. So it is not fully battle tested. This just as reminder when you start compaining I need somewhere to point my finger to and say "I told you!" ;) * there are few things missing that you might expect like garbage collection, etc. So but it is definetely usable and awaiting the brave ones of you to try. Hopy you enjoy it! Norbert & Marcus _______________________________________________ Esug-list mailing list -- esug-list(a)lists.esug.org<mailto:esug-list@lists.esug.org> To unsubscribe send an email to esug-list-leave(a)lists.esug.org<mailto:esug-list-leave@lists.esug.org> _______________________________________________ Esug-list mailing list -- esug-list(a)lists.esug.org<mailto:esug-list@lists.esug.org> To unsubscribe send an email to esug-list-leave(a)lists.esug.org<mailto:esug-list-leave@lists.esug.org> _______________________________________________ Esug-list mailing list -- esug-list(a)lists.esug.org<mailto:esug-list@lists.esug.org> To unsubscribe send an email to esug-list-leave(a)lists.esug.org<mailto:esug-list-leave@lists.esug.org>

May 8, 2024

Re: [Esug-list] Re: [ANN] Soil release v1

by Cody Sevier

Or soiling yourself, aka incontinence... Isn't English illogical fun! Cody On Wed, May 8, 2024, 10:41â¯AM Dale Henrichs < dale.henrichs(a)gemtalksystems.com> wrote: > To me as a non-native speaker it means: ground layer you can build/grow on > > > Haha, Soil can also be thought of as "ground up stone" :) > > Dale > > On Wed, May 8, 2024 at 7:13â¯AM Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: > >> >> >> Am 06.05.2024 um 16:47 schrieb Dirk Nel <dirkockertnel(a)gmail.com>: >> >> I'll definitely check it out..! and for those who are not in the know... >> what inspired the name? :) >> >> >> - I like the word >> - It has only four letters which qualifies as a class prefix >> - To me as a non-native speaker it means: ground layer you can build/grow >> on >> >> Norbert >> >> >> On Wed, 24 Apr 2024 at 17:47, Tim Mackinnon <tim(a)testit.works> wrote: >> >>> That's really exciting news... appreciate you sharing it with the wider >>> community (I know when you mentioned its existence a while back I went and >>> watched the Esug recordings to get more info, and looked at some of the >>> extensive test cases to get a feel on what it looked like - its neat). >>> >>> Having multiple options for persisting data (from simple Fuel up to Soil >>> and Glorp and Gemstone) is very useful. >>> >>> Tim >>> >>> On Wed, 24 Apr 2024, at 12:52 PM, Norbert Hartl wrote: >>> >>> ...we said at last ESUG that there will be a release soonish but as >>> usual it doesn't go that fast. >>> >>> But now we are very happy to announce that Soil has a first public >>> release v1. So what is soil? >>> >>> Soil is an object oriented database in pharo <http://pharo.org/>. It is >>> transaction based having ACID transactions. It has binary search >>> capabilities with SkipList and BTree+ indexes. It aims to be a simple yet >>> powerful database making it easy to develop with, easy to debug with, easy >>> to inspect, ... >>> >>> More details at https://github.com/ApptiveGrid/Soil >>> >>> This release is still considered early stage because >>> >>> >>> - although in ApptiveGrid there are over 4000 instances of it and >>> there are other users there isn't a wider range of use cases, yet. So it is >>> not fully battle tested. This just as reminder when you start compaining I >>> need somewhere to point my finger to and say "I told you!" ;) >>> - there are few things missing that you might expect like garbage >>> collection, etc. >>> >>> >>> So but it is definetely usable and awaiting the brave ones of you to >>> try. >>> >>> Hopy you enjoy it! >>> >>> Norbert & Marcus >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Esug-list mailing list -- esug-list(a)lists.esug.org >>> To unsubscribe send an email to esug-list-leave(a)lists.esug.org >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Esug-list mailing list -- esug-list(a)lists.esug.org >>> To unsubscribe send an email to esug-list-leave(a)lists.esug.org >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Esug-list mailing list -- esug-list(a)lists.esug.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to esug-list-leave(a)lists.esug.org >> >

May 8, 2024

Re: [Esug-list] Re: [ANN] Soil release v1

by Dale Henrichs

> > To me as a non-native speaker it means: ground layer you can build/grow on Haha, Soil can also be thought of as "ground up stone" :) Dale On Wed, May 8, 2024 at 7:13â¯AM Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: > > > Am 06.05.2024 um 16:47 schrieb Dirk Nel <dirkockertnel(a)gmail.com>: > > I'll definitely check it out..! and for those who are not in the know... > what inspired the name? :) > > > - I like the word > - It has only four letters which qualifies as a class prefix > - To me as a non-native speaker it means: ground layer you can build/grow > on > > Norbert > > > On Wed, 24 Apr 2024 at 17:47, Tim Mackinnon <tim(a)testit.works> wrote: > >> That's really exciting news... appreciate you sharing it with the wider >> community (I know when you mentioned its existence a while back I went and >> watched the Esug recordings to get more info, and looked at some of the >> extensive test cases to get a feel on what it looked like - its neat). >> >> Having multiple options for persisting data (from simple Fuel up to Soil >> and Glorp and Gemstone) is very useful. >> >> Tim >> >> On Wed, 24 Apr 2024, at 12:52 PM, Norbert Hartl wrote: >> >> ...we said at last ESUG that there will be a release soonish but as usual >> it doesn't go that fast. >> >> But now we are very happy to announce that Soil has a first public >> release v1. So what is soil? >> >> Soil is an object oriented database in pharo <http://pharo.org/>. It is >> transaction based having ACID transactions. It has binary search >> capabilities with SkipList and BTree+ indexes. It aims to be a simple yet >> powerful database making it easy to develop with, easy to debug with, easy >> to inspect, ... >> >> More details at https://github.com/ApptiveGrid/Soil >> >> This release is still considered early stage because >> >> >> - although in ApptiveGrid there are over 4000 instances of it and >> there are other users there isn't a wider range of use cases, yet. So it is >> not fully battle tested. This just as reminder when you start compaining I >> need somewhere to point my finger to and say "I told you!" ;) >> - there are few things missing that you might expect like garbage >> collection, etc. >> >> >> So but it is definetely usable and awaiting the brave ones of you to try. >> >> Hopy you enjoy it! >> >> Norbert & Marcus >> _______________________________________________ >> Esug-list mailing list -- esug-list(a)lists.esug.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to esug-list-leave(a)lists.esug.org >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Esug-list mailing list -- esug-list(a)lists.esug.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to esug-list-leave(a)lists.esug.org >> > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list -- esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to esug-list-leave(a)lists.esug.org >

May 8, 2024

Re: [Esug-list] [ANN] Soil release v1

by Norbert Hartl

> Am 06.05.2024 um 16:47 schrieb Dirk Nel <dirkockertnel(a)gmail.com>: > > I'll definitely check it out..! and for those who are not in the know... what inspired the name? :) - I like the word - It has only four letters which qualifies as a class prefix - To me as a non-native speaker it means: ground layer you can build/grow on Norbert > > On Wed, 24 Apr 2024 at 17:47, Tim Mackinnon <tim(a)testit.works> wrote: >> That's really exciting news... appreciate you sharing it with the wider community (I know when you mentioned its existence a while back I went and watched the Esug recordings to get more info, and looked at some of the extensive test cases to get a feel on what it looked like - its neat). >> >> Having multiple options for persisting data (from simple Fuel up to Soil and Glorp and Gemstone) is very useful. >> >> Tim >> >> On Wed, 24 Apr 2024, at 12:52 PM, Norbert Hartl wrote: >>> ...we said at last ESUG that there will be a release soonish but as usual it doesn't go that fast. >>> >>> But now we are very happy to announce that Soil has a first public release v1. So what is soil? >>> >>> Soil is an object oriented database in pharo <http://pharo.org/>. It is transaction based having ACID transactions. It has binary search capabilities with SkipList and BTree+ indexes. It aims to be a simple yet powerful database making it easy to develop with, easy to debug with, easy to inspect, ... >>> >>> More details at https://github.com/ApptiveGrid/Soil >>> >>> This release is still considered early stage because >>> >>> although in ApptiveGrid there are over 4000 instances of it and there are other users there isn't a wider range of use cases, yet. So it is not fully battle tested. This just as reminder when you start compaining I need somewhere to point my finger to and say "I told you!" ;) >>> there are few things missing that you might expect like garbage collection, etc. >>> >>> So but it is definetely usable and awaiting the brave ones of you to try. >>> >>> Hopy you enjoy it! >>> >>> Norbert & Marcus >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Esug-list mailing list -- esug-list(a)lists.esug.org <mailto:esug-list@lists.esug.org> >>> To unsubscribe send an email to esug-list-leave(a)lists.esug.org <mailto:esug-list-leave@lists.esug.org> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Esug-list mailing list -- esug-list(a)lists.esug.org <mailto:esug-list@lists.esug.org> >> To unsubscribe send an email to esug-list-leave(a)lists.esug.org <mailto:esug-list-leave@lists.esug.org>

May 8, 2024

Some issues in starting Pharo12 - Re: [ANN] Pharo 12 Release !

by Davide Varvello

Hi Guys, I'm trying to play with Pharo12 so I downloaded it via the Zeroconf script (it seems to me more approachable than the Pharo Launcher).The script (curl -L https://get.pharo.org | bash) got everything for my machine (apple silicon).Â Now, if I run pharo via command line everything is working, but if I double click on Pharo.app and select the image file Pharo.image nothing happens. Can you check that behavior, please? TIADavide --------- On Friday, April 26, 2024 at 12:20:41 PM GMT+2, Esteban Lorenzano via Pharo-users <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> wrote: Dear Pharo users and dynamic language lovers: We have released Pharo version 12! What is Pharo?

May 8, 2024