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Re: Omnibase/Monibase repository removal

by danhunfeldz＠mail.com

This is on the Cincom site regarding OmniBase: #### Licence Agreement The OmniBase object database is provided as it is and with allÂ faults, known or unknown. The source code and other information contained in the sourceÂ code package is COPYRIGHT (C) by David Gorisek (the author).Â Portions of the source code can not be used without prior authorâsÂ written permission. OmniBase object database is licenced and sold under aÂ âper developer sitâ licence model. You may install and use an unlimited number of copies of OmniBase object database on computers, including workstations, terminals Â or other digital electronic devices to design, develop, and testÂ your software application(s), however, you must acquire and Â dedicate a license for each separate developer who is developing software using OmniBase. A license for the OmniBase object database may not be shared or used concurrently by different users. In no event shall the author be liable for any special, incidental, indirect, punitive or consequential damages whatsoever arising out of or in any way related to the use of or inability to use the OmniBase object database. By using the OmniBase object databaseÂ you accept this licence agreement and the fact that you are using the database at your own risk. The author reserves all rights notÂ expressly granted to you in this License agreement. The OmniBase object database is protected by copyright laws of the Republic of Slovenia and other intellectual property laws and treaties.

Aug. 9, 2022

Re: Omnibase/Monibase repository removal

by Konrad Hinsen

Hi Norbert, > This means that I will remove the Omnibase repositories in few weeks from > > https://github.com/ApptiveGrid/MoniBase <https://github.com/ApptiveGrid/MoniBase> > > and > > https://github.com/pharo-nosql/OmniBase <https://github.com/pharo-nosql/OmniBase> I hope you are aware that all of GitHub is archived by Software Heritage. MoniBase doesn't seem to be in there yet, but there are a few repositories called OmniBase, some of which belong to accounts associated with Pharo: https://archive.softwareheritage.org/browse/search/?q=OmniBase&with_visit=t… Deleting a repository from GitHub doesn't delete its archival copy on Software Heritage. Removal there has to be requested explicitly: https://www.softwareheritage.org/legal/content-policy/ Cheers, Konrad

Aug. 9, 2022

Re: [Pharo-dev] Re: Omnibase/Monibase repository removal

by Dale Henrichs

Hereâs Kurtâs talk from Camp Smalltalk Supreme[1]. Dale [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLF2S6fq5a4 Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 9, 2022, at 6:53 AM, Dale Henrichs <dale.henrichs(a)gemtalksystems.com> wrote: > > ï»¿Norbert, > > I wonât be going to ESUG this year â¦ travel to Europe has always been tough for me and at my age ð¨âð¦³I want to limit my exposure to COVIDâ¦ Perhaps next yearð¤. > > Dale > > Sent from my iPhone > >>> On Aug 9, 2022, at 3:21 AM, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: >>> >> ï»¿Hi Dale, >> >> thanks for the pointer. I always admired what the GemStone people did and do. But I'm looking for something more lightweight and more easy to handle approach this time. Well, from the github page I could not derive what it really does to be honest. >> >> Hope to see you at ESUG, >> >> Norbert >> >>> Am 08.08.2022 um 18:44 schrieb Dale Henrichs <dale.henrichs(a)gemtalksystems.com>: >>> >>> Norbert, >>> Before you go off and invent a data base, you might take a look at GemStone and RemoteServiceReplication[1] ... >>> >>> Dale >>> >>> [1] https://github.com/GemTalk/RemoteServiceReplication >>> >>>> On Mon, Aug 8, 2022 at 6:19 AM Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: >>>> To all Omnibase and Monibase users. >>>> >>>> It turned out that neither of those are open source. The author of the database contacted me clarifying the situation that he has the copyright and never released something open source. This means that I will remove the Omnibase repositories in few weeks from >>>> >>>> https://github.com/ApptiveGrid/MoniBase >>>> >>>> and >>>> >>>> https://github.com/pharo-nosql/OmniBase >>>> >>>> I'm very sorry about that but someone just took the code 9 years before, copied it on github and put illegally an MIT license to the repository. We only want free software in our repositories and hence the above will go away. >>>> >>>> As we see it essential to have a good OO database in pharo we will see how much effort it will be build a small and simple OO database that can replace Omnibase. >>>> >>>> regards, >>>> >>>> Norbert >>

Aug. 9, 2022

Re: [Pharo-dev] Re: Omnibase/Monibase repository removal

by Dale Henrichs

Norbert, I wonât be going to ESUG this year â¦ travel to Europe has always been tough for me and at my age ð¨âð¦³I want to limit my exposure to COVIDâ¦ Perhaps next yearð¤. Dale Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 9, 2022, at 3:21 AM, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: > > ï»¿Hi Dale, > > thanks for the pointer. I always admired what the GemStone people did and do. But I'm looking for something more lightweight and more easy to handle approach this time. Well, from the github page I could not derive what it really does to be honest. > > Hope to see you at ESUG, > > Norbert > >> Am 08.08.2022 um 18:44 schrieb Dale Henrichs <dale.henrichs(a)gemtalksystems.com>: >> >> Norbert, >> Before you go off and invent a data base, you might take a look at GemStone and RemoteServiceReplication[1] ... >> >> Dale >> >> [1] https://github.com/GemTalk/RemoteServiceReplication >> >> On Mon, Aug 8, 2022 at 6:19 AM Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: >>> To all Omnibase and Monibase users. >>> >>> It turned out that neither of those are open source. The author of the database contacted me clarifying the situation that he has the copyright and never released something open source. This means that I will remove the Omnibase repositories in few weeks from >>> >>> https://github.com/ApptiveGrid/MoniBase >>> >>> and >>> >>> https://github.com/pharo-nosql/OmniBase >>> >>> I'm very sorry about that but someone just took the code 9 years before, copied it on github and put illegally an MIT license to the repository. We only want free software in our repositories and hence the above will go away. >>> >>> As we see it essential to have a good OO database in pharo we will see how much effort it will be build a small and simple OO database that can replace Omnibase. >>> >>> regards, >>> >>> Norbert >

Aug. 9, 2022

Re: [Pharo-dev] Re: Omnibase/Monibase repository removal

by Dale Henrichs

Norbert, Ooops you are right! RSR is an object replication framework that replicates objects between Pharo, Dolphin, and GemStone images. Kurt Kilpela will be giving a talk at ESUG this year so if you are going to ESUG you can get more details right from the horseâs s mouth:) Dale [1] https://downloads.gemtalksystems.com/docs/GemStone64/3.6.x/GS64-GemBuilderf… Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 9, 2022, at 3:21 AM, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: > > ï»¿Hi Dale, > > thanks for the pointer. I always admired what the GemStone people did and do. But I'm looking for something more lightweight and more easy to handle approach this time. Well, from the github page I could not derive what it really does to be honest. > > Hope to see you at ESUG, > > Norbert > >> Am 08.08.2022 um 18:44 schrieb Dale Henrichs <dale.henrichs(a)gemtalksystems.com>: >> >> Norbert, >> Before you go off and invent a data base, you might take a look at GemStone and RemoteServiceReplication[1] ... >> >> Dale >> >> [1] https://github.com/GemTalk/RemoteServiceReplication >> >> On Mon, Aug 8, 2022 at 6:19 AM Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: >>> To all Omnibase and Monibase users. >>> >>> It turned out that neither of those are open source. The author of the database contacted me clarifying the situation that he has the copyright and never released something open source. This means that I will remove the Omnibase repositories in few weeks from >>> >>> https://github.com/ApptiveGrid/MoniBase >>> >>> and >>> >>> https://github.com/pharo-nosql/OmniBase >>> >>> I'm very sorry about that but someone just took the code 9 years before, copied it on github and put illegally an MIT license to the repository. We only want free software in our repositories and hence the above will go away. >>> >>> As we see it essential to have a good OO database in pharo we will see how much effort it will be build a small and simple OO database that can replace Omnibase. >>> >>> regards, >>> >>> Norbert >

Aug. 9, 2022

Re: Omnibase/Monibase repository removal

by vinref＠gmail.com

Hi Norbert Posting this here in pharo-users as I am not a member of pharo-dev. I also emailed David Gorisek late last year regarding the license (for Dolphin Smalltalk) and this was his reply. He wrote that I needed only to mark the repo as a fork and attach the copyright notice: > David Gorisek <david.gorisek@....com> \ > \ > 12:35 AM (9 hours ago) \ > \ > to me \ > \ > Dear Vince, \ > \ > OmniBase is most definitely not abandonware because it is actively being used, improved and even supported for paying customers. We also have a version for D7 but since OmniBase is used as a DB repository for STS we don't use Github. In my company we use a central STS repository which is accessible over HTTPS and we keep all our code there so I haven't had time to try Github yet. \ > \ > There are many versions and forks of OmniBase circling around because many people have done re-porting on their own for whatever reasons but these ports were not approved and are not supported by us. So, if you want to place your fork on Github you just need to indicate that it is a fork and that the original code is Copyright (c) by David Gorisek and then write what changes you made in your fork. \ > \ > Thank yout and best regards, \ > \ > David Gorisek \ > E-RACUNI d.o.o. \ > Maribor, Slovenia Vince

Aug. 9, 2022

Re: [Pharo-dev] Omnibase/Monibase repository removal

by Norbert Hartl

Dale, there is really no need for an excusion :) I found your pointer really informative and what you are saying is always interesting. But yeah, Yanni has a point here. I was pretty satisified with Omnibase because it is easy to handle being smalltalk and running in the same image. Supporting ACID transactions with MVCC is even a strong point. Performance is an important point. But performance is mostly defined by the use case and the architecture you choose for that. And our setup can scale out quite well I suppose. Norbert > Am 08.08.2022 um 22:34 schrieb Dale Henrichs <dale.henrichs(a)gemtalksystems.com>: > > Sorry to have interrupted ... I just remember that folks have moved from OmniBase to GemStone in the past for "performance reasons" and understand that those aren't the only reasons for having an OmniBase replacement ... > > Dale > > On Mon, Aug 8, 2022 at 10:22 AM Yanni Chiu <yannix7db(a)gmail.com <mailto:yannix7db@gmail.com>> wrote: > Dale, > > Itâs not about inventing a âdatabaseâ, itâs a requirement to persist data beyond image start/stop, along with intangibles like having the full source code to tune for individual requirements. In my case the top (desired) requirements are single directory or file per user (scaling), and no additional server process(es) to be monitored for failure mode. > > Yanni > > On Mon, Aug 8, 2022 at 12:44 PM Dale Henrichs <dale.henrichs(a)gemtalksystems.com <mailto:dale.henrichs@gemtalksystems.com>> wrote: > Norbert, > Before you go off and invent a data base, you might take a look at GemStone and RemoteServiceReplication[1] ... > > Dale > > [1] https://github.com/GemTalk/RemoteServiceReplication <https://github.com/GemTalk/RemoteServiceReplication> > On Mon, Aug 8, 2022 at 6:19 AM Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name <mailto:norbert@hartl.name>> wrote: > To all Omnibase and Monibase users. > > It turned out that neither of those are open source. The author of the database contacted me clarifying the situation that he has the copyright and never released something open source. This means that I will remove the Omnibase repositories in few weeks from > > https://github.com/ApptiveGrid/MoniBase <https://github.com/ApptiveGrid/MoniBase> > > and > > https://github.com/pharo-nosql/OmniBase <https://github.com/pharo-nosql/OmniBase> > > I'm very sorry about that but someone just took the code 9 years before, copied it on github and put illegally an MIT license to the repository. We only want free software in our repositories and hence the above will go away. > > As we see it essential to have a good OO database in pharo we will see how much effort it will be build a small and simple OO database that can replace Omnibase. > > regards, > > Norbert

Aug. 9, 2022

Re: [Pharo-dev] Omnibase/Monibase repository removal

by Norbert Hartl

Hi Dale, thanks for the pointer. I always admired what the GemStone people did and do. But I'm looking for something more lightweight and more easy to handle approach this time. Well, from the github page I could not derive what it really does to be honest. Hope to see you at ESUG, Norbert > Am 08.08.2022 um 18:44 schrieb Dale Henrichs <dale.henrichs(a)gemtalksystems.com>: > > Norbert, > Before you go off and invent a data base, you might take a look at GemStone and RemoteServiceReplication[1] ... > > Dale > > [1] https://github.com/GemTalk/RemoteServiceReplication <https://github.com/GemTalk/RemoteServiceReplication> > On Mon, Aug 8, 2022 at 6:19 AM Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name <mailto:norbert@hartl.name>> wrote: > To all Omnibase and Monibase users. > > It turned out that neither of those are open source. The author of the database contacted me clarifying the situation that he has the copyright and never released something open source. This means that I will remove the Omnibase repositories in few weeks from > > https://github.com/ApptiveGrid/MoniBase <https://github.com/ApptiveGrid/MoniBase> > > and > > https://github.com/pharo-nosql/OmniBase <https://github.com/pharo-nosql/OmniBase> > > I'm very sorry about that but someone just took the code 9 years before, copied it on github and put illegally an MIT license to the repository. We only want free software in our repositories and hence the above will go away. > > As we see it essential to have a good OO database in pharo we will see how much effort it will be build a small and simple OO database that can replace Omnibase. > > regards, > > Norbert

Aug. 9, 2022

FW: Re: [Pharo-users]Porting from VW 8.3 to Pharo: base class preload transform attached

by Shaping

Attached is the new Transform that ultimately results in the insertion of the needed evaluable, but there is also the extra prelude âInstaller ssâ¦â. Iâm not sure what thatâs about. Shaping From: Shaping <shaping(a)uurda.org> Sent: Monday, 8 August, 2022 05:41 To: 'Any question about pharo is welcome' <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> Subject: [Pharo-users] Re: [Pharo-users]Porting from VW 8.3 to Pharo: what to ignore; how to find Pharo base classes not in the base image This writeLoadDoitOn: aStream aStream cr; nextPutAll: 'Installer ss'; crtab; nextPutAll: 'project: '; nextPutAll: self project printString; nextPut: $;; crtab; nextPutAll: 'install: '; nextPutAll: self install printString; nextPut: $!; cr wrote the following to the stream: ^ Installer ss project: 'ArbitraryPrecisionFloat'; install: 'MetacelloPreload smalltalkhubUser: ''Pharo'' project: ''MetaRepoForPharo70'' configuration: ''ArbitraryPrecisionFloat'' version: #stable' which doesnât compile. We just want the string after install: Shaping From: Shaping <shaping(a)uurda.org <mailto:shaping@uurda.org> > Sent: Monday, 8 August, 2022 04:54 To: 'Any question about pharo is welcome' <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org <mailto:pharo-users@lists.pharo.org> > Subject: [Pharo-users] Re: [Pharo-users]Porting from VW 8.3 to Pharo: what to ignore; how to find Pharo base classes not in the base image I just realized that the baseClassLoadEvaluable (to load AFP for example) needs to be the install parameter in an instance of PharoPreload. Fixing that now. Shaping This is VWâs definition of IntegerArray: Smalltalk.Core defineClass: #IntegerArray superclass: #{Core.ArrayedCollection} indexedType: #none private: false instanceVariableNames: '' classInstanceVariableNames: '' imports: '' category: 'Collections-Arrayed' Iâm stepping through the chunks in the Changes Browser because I donât see an easier way currently. This is a separate tool from Epicea. The first chunk whose file-in fails is: IntegerArray variableByteSubclass: #ByteArray instanceVariableNames: '' classVariableNames: 'LastDecodeMap Decodings LastEncodeMap Encodings Lock' poolDictionaries: 'ForeignHeap' package: 'Shaping-Collection' I donât understand how this definition could have been created. ByteArray is a VW system class. Such classes should not be ported anyways â alone from copyright reasons. The only addition I see is the pool ForeignHeap. I guess, that you extended ByteArray somehow and added an import ForeignHeap.* to ByteArray. Yes I have: ByteArray >> asExternal ^ForeignHeap copyOfByteArray: self Also note that I have a ByteArray class override: Smalltalk.Core defineClass: #ByteArray superclass: #{Core.IntegerArray} indexedType: #bytes private: false instanceVariableNames: '' classInstanceVariableNames: '' imports: ' Shaping.ForeignHeap ' category: 'Collections-Arrayed' that imports my own ForeignHeap. I need to put that method on an existing Pharo class, which should just be its own version of ByteArray. So how do I tell my Shaping Collection package transform to ignore transformation of ByteArrayâs class definition, but preserve any methods in the same package that are extensions? It should be fine to extend the corresponding Pharo ByteArray with your methods. The problem is your overwritten class definition. Since the definition is in your package, it gets transformed as a defined class and not as an extension. But you donât need to redefine the Pharo class with a pool dictionary, since the transformations take care of the class renamings. Okay, so Iâll just undo the VW override of ByteArray, so that the transformation, as currently structured, can operate correctly. I donât need VWâs or my flavor of VWâs ForeignHeap. Pharo has its own idea of what that is, and any of my VW ForeignHeap-related method can be moved over separately. I guess I need to find the right Pharo class and try to attached the methods to that by do code rewrites. If the class doesnât exist, I can use something like my current VW ForeignHeap wrapper to reify foreign memory. Iâm not sure how the uFFI does things. I found this: http://books.pharo.org/booklet-uffi/pdf/2020-02-12-uFFI-V1.0.1 (p. 25) â Obtaining an ExternalAddress The most common way of obtaining an ExternalAddress is to receive it as the return value of a called C function. A good example is the libc function malloc(), which takes an integer specifying the desired size of a heap buffer, tries to allocate a contiguous block of memory of the size requested, and, if successful, returns a pointer to the allocated region of memory. The C declaration of such function reads as follows (from the libc manual): void *malloc( size_t size ); We only need create a uFFI binding to it by copy-pasting the declaration as follows: FFITutorial class >> malloc: aSize [ ^ self ffiCall: #( void * malloc ( size_t aSize ) ) library: LibC ] Notice that this function returns a âgeneric pointerâ, of type void * (meaning, what it points to in memory is untyped). In uFFI, this is marshalled to a ExternalAddress object. In other words, our malloc() binding yields an ExternalAddress in return (if successful). For example, if we use the above binding to ask the system to allocate a buffer of 200 bytes for us, then on return we should have an address that points somewhere in the C heap: FFITutorial malloc: 200 => (void*)@ 16r7FFBDE0DE030 But if we ask for more memory than there is currently available, malloc() will fail and return a NULL pointer instead: FFITutorial malloc: SmallInteger maxVal => (void*)@ 16r00000000 Consequently, we must always check the return value in cases like this, lest we invoke the infamous ânull pointer assignmentâ bug. â This is a new situation for me: an override of a system class definition which must be ignored and the methods treated as extensions. Yup, thatâs odd. Iâll patch around it for now. Let me know if you publish something to the public repo, or if you have file-in I can apply. Valid case. I have to think about it. On the other hand, it is bad style to override system class definitions. It is great that VW allows overrides of this kind which can be cleanly unloaded(!). I am not aware of any other Smalltalk with this capability (except maybe Gemstone). Therefore, it should really be the last resort to override system classes in the target Smalltalks. It was done for both notational convenience and speed. Otherwise, I would have needed to use the dotted notation. Iâve timed it, and it costs more microseconds than I wanted. Similar cases in my code I resolved by removing the import and spelling out the full name of the referenced classes. Yeah, see above. It does cost a little in speed. I donât recall the extra latency, but it was not insignificant, especially in high-frequency loops. I did the measurement sometime around 7.5/7.6 and have not done it since. Yes, I prefer not to crap-up a system class, but Iâm flexible when I need speed. (This might be slow when used in tight loops). Also generally bad to change your code just for a port. (ok, not generally). Or, you could ignore the class and add a SystemClassChange (for classes not defined or extended in the package) and add all your methods like: PackageChange ignoredNames: #(#{Core.ByteArray}) â¦ extensions: (Array with: (SystemClassChange className: #ByteArray instanceChanges: (Array with: (Add method: #myMethod code: #_shaping_myMethod) â¦) classChanges: (Array with: (Add method: #myClassMethod code: #_shaping_myClassMethod) â¦)) (I think that you could even use the original methods instead of the _shaping_* copies â nice. Untested though) Okay, I put that bit in the code but commented out. I canât really move that method anyway, because there is no ForeignHeap equivalent that I know yet in Pharo. As far as I can tell, Pharo doesnât try to reify as I do. It would be a separate task I would do later. Not a high priority now. [â¦] For this, a PackageChange has a #preload. It can be filled with a dialect specific specification of what to load beforehand. I defined PharoPreload and use it in Squeak :-) (look for the references). Okay. Actually, it should be renamed to MonticelloPreload or so. What you need would be a MetacelloPreload in which you would capture the parameters needed to load that package (and implement â#writeLoadDoitOn: aStreamâ too :-) ). I need to learn more about Monticello and Metacello to design the proper preload objectsâ¦ (or I meet somebody who known everything about it :-) . Something like MetacelloPreload smalltalkhubUser: 'Pharo' project: 'MetaRepoForPharo70' configuration: 'ArbitraryPrecisionFloat' version: #stable So you want to do the actual Pharo preload of the needed Pharo base class on the VW side, and write the resulting class definition to the file-out stream. Iâd have to build the above class and copy from Pharo into VW the code that does Metacello load. It may not be worth the hassle. I might need only this one missing Pharo base class, but I could be wrong about that. Perhaps there are many such classes. No no no. On the VW side, the following string has to be written into the fileout before the package loads (with #writeLoadDoitOn: ): âMetacello new smalltalkhubUser: 'Pharo' project: 'MetaRepoForPharo70'; configuration: 'ArbitraryPrecisionFloat'; version: #stable; load!â Since the fileout is in chunk format, you can add any doIts you want. Thatâs how I can create packages and whatnot, because I can do anything you can do in a workspace. So the DoIt above will load the required package into Pharo. With that you have nothing to do in VW. Iâm trying to find the right spot in the transformation to do this. The below method is the only sender of #writeLoadDoitOn for Pharo (thereâs one for Squeak too). PharoPreload>> writePackageHeadFor: aWriter aWriter change hasPreload ifFalse: [ ^self]. aWriter change preload do: [:preload | preload writeLoadDoitOn: aWriter stream] Working down the stack we have PackageWriter>> writeHead self target writePackageHeadFor: self then Subwriter>> writeCodeComponent self writeBaseClasses âwrite pharo code that loads essential base classes <==============â self writeHead. self writeRunPrereadCode. self writeRunPreloadCode. self writeContents. self writeRunPostloadCode. self writeTail So where indicated we need to write: âMetacello new smalltalkhubUser: 'Pharo' project: 'MetaRepoForPharo70'; configuration: 'ArbitraryPrecisionFloat'; version: #stable; load!â at the arrow. So as a first go Iâve written: PackageWriter>> writeBaseClasses self target writeBaseClassesFor: self Pharo class>> writeBaseClassesFor: aWriter aWriter change hasBaseclassLoadEvaluables ifFalse: [ ^self]. aWriter change baseClassLoadEvaluables do: [:preload | preload writeLoadDoitOn: aWriter stream] PackageChange>> baseClassLoadEvaluables: baseClassLoadEvaluables ignoredNames: ingoredNames ^self baseClassLoadEvaluables: baseClassLoadEvaluables preload: nil ignoredNames: ingoredNames bridgeClasses: nil hierarchyChanges: nil localChanges: nil extensions: nil All the downstream methods have been created. baseClassLoadEvaluables will be an array of string evaluables like the above (could have a bunch of them). You can probably do a nicer job than I because you know the code better, but something like this hack could work. You might just want to do that the way you want nice and clean, and hand it back to me as a file in. Iâve not run this yet. Iâll do that in a few minutes and let you know how it goes. I can send you the complete file-out if/when it works, or you can use the above as a rough template and do it for us, and pass it back to me so that I can test it. The code will stay cleaner that way. The file-in gets past the APF stuff and is failing on setting the comment of a class that is not present. I donât see how that can happen, but the needed class def is not present in the chunk list before or after the comment: send. ??? Yeah, I donât understand it either. I get different behavior from the file in when I just run it versus manually evaluating the chunks form the Changes browser. Iâll ty it again with the new stuff for the baseClasses. Shaping I got about 6 seconds into the first file-in. Iâm running empty transforms on all packages. Great. You do need a ProjectChange though. Starting with empty PackageChanges is perfect. Yes, I have the one big ProjectChange with all the PackageChanges (about 25) currently empty. The problem Iâm having is using this Syntax error to determine where in the file-in the problem occurred so that I can know the package whose transform needs work. I was expecting more context. So Iâm poking around in STCommandLineHandler next with breakpoints. Open to suggestions. Strange. The #{String} syntax should have been automatically transformed to #String for Pharoâ¦ strange. All the namespace related issues (like this literal binding reference) should be taken care of. I had a bunch of those namespace/shared-variable bad-reference problems, which I cleared up for several hours before I was able to produce the first file-in. The transformation machinery is very strict, and helps you clean up your code. Iâd forgotten about many of the things that I was forced to fix. Iâll just debug through the file-in until I find the problem. Shaping. Iâll make my first run soon on my first package. Iâll do one package extra each time I run, building up the code. Each package will have its own <package name>Transform method, per the examples. Iâm not sure how to build these methods, except to assume that rewriting the pharo base methods is never wrong. Iâll file-in the resulting .st file to see what breaks. Then Iâll go back to the package whose .st source is not loading completely and add additional fixes (class keeps, base methods rewrites if needed and missing, method code body replacements if needed) to its transform method until it loads completely on the next run. That could take a while. Is that what you do in practice? Perfect! That is exactly how I do it. I start with an empty PackageChange. Then I add incrementally transforms until the code loads - phase one. This has been achieved for PDFtalk with the first release on GitHub. The second and final phase is to make all tests run (including the new to-write tests). This can take a while, because all syntactic and semantic differences must be addressed. Here, some cross-fertilization is possible. Yeah, and I have to be thorough finally about all my SUnit testsâ¦ The nice thing is, that the system is always telling you what to do. In fact, at first there are so many issues that it is a lot of fun to browse them and chose a nice one. Always the nicest or easiest bug first :-). Right. Iâm assuming the code writer is taking into account inter-package dependencies in order to get the load order right. Yes. Shaping From: christian.haider(a)smalltalked-visuals.com <mailto:christian.haider@smalltalked-visuals.com> <christian.haider(a)smalltalked-visuals.com <mailto:christian.haider@smalltalked-visuals.com> > Sent: Friday, 5 August, 2022 05:53 To: 'Any question about pharo is welcome' <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org <mailto:pharo-users@lists.pharo.org> >; 'Pharo Development List' <pharo-dev(a)lists.pharo.org <mailto:pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org> > Subject: [Pharo-users] Re: [Pharo-users]Porting from VW 8.3 to Pharo: pdftalkPackageChanges The full project in which the mentioned method used looks like this: PDFtalkProject ^ProjectChange name: #PDFtalk source: ((OrderedCollection new) add: (Package name: #Values); add: (Bundle name: #PDFtalk); add: (Package name: #'Values Testing'); add: (Bundle name: #'PDFtalk Testing'); add: (Package name: #'PDFtalk Demonstrations'); yourself) changes: self pdftalkPackageChanges nameMapping: (NameMapping keep: ((OrderedCollection new) add: #{Smalltalk.PDF}; add: #{PostScript.PSDictionary}; add: #{PDFtalk.PDFObject}; add: #{PDFtalk.PDFArray}; add: #{PDFtalk.PDFDictionary}; add: #{PDFtalk.PDFStream}; add: #{PDFtalk.PDFString}; add: #{PDFtalk.PDFDate}; add: #{PDFtalk.PDFTypeDefinition}; add: #{PDFtalk.PDFEncoder}; yourself) classToNames: ((Valuemap new) add: #{SubscriptOutOfBoundsError} -> #Error; add: #{NonIntegerIndexError} -> #Error; add: #{NotFoundError} -> #KeyNotFound; add: #{KeyNotFoundError} -> #KeyNotFound; yourself) namespaceToPrefixes: ((Valuemap new) add: #{Smalltalk.PostScript} -> 'PS'; add: #{Smalltalk.PDFtalk} -> 'Pt'; add: #{PDFtalk.Fonts} -> 'PtF'; add: #{PDFtalk.Fonts.OpenType} -> 'PtOT'; yourself)) In the #source: are the bundles and packages to be transformed. The #changes: (your method) specify the transforms (PackageChange) for each package explicitly. Only packages contain code and therefore, only packages need the code transformations. Bundles are transformed without transformations. (Well, the code for pre-, post- whatever blocks are transformed with the class name mappings rules). So, the mapping from packages to the corresponding PackageChange has to be stated somehow. Using a dictionary (Valuemap) for this seems also natural. The only change I might like is to use pragmas to tag the PackageChange returning methods with âtheirâ package like <package: âValues Toolsâ> or so. Putting the package reference into the PackageChange is not a good idea, because all those Objects need to be created before your can find out which package is affected. (Ok, I am creating all PackageChange objects tooâ¦). Happy hacking, Christian Von: Shaping <shaping(a)uurda.org <mailto:shaping@uurda.org> > Gesendet: Freitag, 5. August 2022 03:26 An: 'Any question about pharo is welcome' <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org <mailto:pharo-users@lists.pharo.org> >; 'Pharo Development List' <pharo-dev(a)lists.pharo.org <mailto:pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org> > Betreff: [Pharo-users] Re: [Pharo-users]Porting from VW 8.3 to Pharo: pdftalkPackageChanges This method pdftalkPackageChanges ^(Valuemap new) add: 'Values' -> self ValuesTransform; add: 'PostScript' -> self PostScriptTransform; add: 'PDFtalk Basics' -> self PDFtalkBasicsTransform; add: 'PDFtalk Typing' -> self PDFtalkTypingTransform; add: 'PDFtalk Basic Objects' -> self PDFtalkBasicObjectsTransform; add: 'PDFtalk Streams' -> self PDFtalkStreamsTransform; add: 'PDFtalk Data Structures' -> self PDFtalkDataStructuresTransform; add: 'PDFtalk Parsing' -> self PDFtalkParsingTransform; add: 'PDFtalk Colour' -> self PDFtalkColourTransform; add: 'PostScript Fonts' -> self PostScriptFontsTransform; add: 'PostScript CIDInit' -> self PostScriptCIDInitTransform; add: 'PDFtalk Fonts Basics' -> self PDFtalkFontsBasicsTransform; add: 'PDFtalk Fonts Type1' -> self PDFtalkFontsType1Transform; add: 'PDFtalk Fonts OpenType' -> self PDFtalkFontsOpenTypeTransform; add: 'PDFtalk Fonts' -> self PDFtalkFontsTransform; add: 'PDFtalk Graphics' -> self PDFtalkGraphicsTransform; add: 'PDFtalk Graphics Operations' -> self PDFtalkGraphicsOperationsTransform; add: 'PDFtalk XObjects' -> self PDFtalkXObjectsTransform; add: 'PDFtalk Images' -> self PDFtalkImagesTransform; add: 'PDFtalk Files' -> self PDFtalkFilesTransform; add: 'PDFtalk Document' -> self PDFtalkDocumentTransform; add: 'PDFtalk Rendering' -> self PDFtalkRenderingTransform; add: 'PDFtalk Shading' -> self PDFtalkShadingTransform; add: 'PDFtalk Interactive Features' -> self PDFtalkInteractiveFeaturesTransform; add: 'PDFtalk Deploying' -> self PDFtalkDeployingTransform; add: 'Values Testing' -> self ValuesTestingTransform; add: 'PDFtalk test resources' -> self PDFtalkTestResourcesTransform; add: 'PostScript Testing' -> self PostScriptTestingTransform; add: 'PostScript CIDInit Testing' -> self PostScriptCIDInitTestingTransform; add: 'PDFtalk Fonts tests' -> self PDFtalkFontsTestsTransform; add: 'PDFtalk tests' -> self PDFtalkTestsTransform; add: 'PDFtalk Demonstrations' -> self PDFtalkDemonstrationsTransform; yourself effectively looks like the head transform structure for a project, in this case all the PDFtalk stuff, which includes Values and Postscript. This is not exactly a bundle idea, is it? Itâs project spread across potentially many bundles and packages. Iâll start coding my transform with a similar method, and work down toward the details. Takes a bit to get used to all the correct, yet dangling VW methods that are useless in VW, but which will become new code in the target image and there no longer appear to be dangling (with syntax highlighting aberrations). Odd looking but completely by design. Shaping From: Shaping <shaping(a)uurda.org <mailto:shaping@uurda.org> > Sent: Thursday, 4 August, 2022 19:18 To: 'Any question about pharo is welcome' <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org <mailto:pharo-users@lists.pharo.org> > Subject: [Pharo-users] Re: [Pharo-users]Porting from VW 8.3 to Pharo: Pharo100 fileOutValues I will look, although this kind of always available on demand thing is too disruptive for meâ¦ I know what you mean. I try be disciplined about it. I really like to be able to fix typos, because there are almost always typos. But e-mail is okay. So that little example is a test that shows how the transformation is done. It converts just package Values to a Pharo-compatible file-in. My task is then to queue a bunch of ProjectChange instances like this one: SmalltalkTransform.Pharo100>> ValuesProject ^ProjectChange name: #Values source: (Array with: (Package name: #Values)) changes: (Valuemap with: 'Values' -> self ValuesTransform) Exactly but for my own packages. No bundles are transformed (just their contained packages) because Pharo doesnât have bundles. Is that right? No, bundles are handled. For real examples, you need to look at the PDFtalk transforms. Yes, Pharo does not have a concept of bundles (ordered aggregates of packages). Instead it relies on a naming convention for packages. That convention is honored in the fileout, so that packages will be partly grouped in Pharo according to the category prefix. For each VW-package, one Pharo package is created. A bundle itself is also represented as Pharo package with one class About<bundlename> with class methods for the metadata of the bundle, including a method giving you the ordered list of component packages. So, all contents and metadata of packages and bundles are transformed for Pharo. No code or info gets lost. Okay. Is method ValuesTransform ^PackageChange ignoredNames: #(#{Smalltalk.GeneralBindingReference}) bridgeClasses: (Valuemap with: #{Timestamp} -> #DateAndTime with: #{Smalltalk.ColorValue} -> #Color) localChanges: self valuesLocalTransform extensions: (Array with: (SystemClassChange className: #Color instanceChanges: (Array with: (Add method: #asColorValue code: #_ph_asColorValue))) with: (SystemClassChange className: #TextStream instanceChanges: (Array with: (Add method: #nextPutAllText: code: #_ph_nextPutAllText:)))) written specifically for that package? I would think it applies to all packages. I see some expected mappings like Timestamp to DateAndTime. Yes, this method returns a PackageChange Value describing the transformations needed to create the Pharo fileout for this specific package (inspect the return value for the fully expanded Value). Methods exist with the same name for other Smalltalks. Depending on the dialect (or version of a dialect), the transforms are different. Squeak and Pharo are quite similar, because they share a common history, but VA or Gemstone need quite different transforms. So, in general, for each package, there is one such method/Value for each target Smalltalk/version. Okay. I do not dare to extract commonalities before the machinery is really robust and stable. For now everything is neatly separate and self-contained (and probably it will stay that way, although there are lots of duplications). The mapping of class names is the responsibility of the enclosing ProjectChange Value where you define the list of source bundles/packages to transform, the PackageChanges for all packages and the mapping of âglobalâ names. (The bridge classes above are no renames, but a subclass relationship (is-a) to avoid renamings. The new class Timestamp will be created as subclass of DateAndTime which has almost the same semantics. Therefore, I can still use Timestamp which will be basically a DateAndTime now.) Okay. There is still a technical challenge here. Currently, a ProjectChange need to include all prerequisites (Values is part of the PDFtalk project and will be transformed with it). A ProjectWriter, which coordinates the transform, keeps track of the mappings when they are created (either explicitly or through a namespace renaming â see implementers of #PDFtalkProject). I would like to have this more modular: the mappings from the Values transformation should be persistently saved, so that other transformation projects can just use them, instead of including the sources into one own project. For this, I need to have renamings local to a package (where they first occur), not global on the project level. Right. For Values and Values Tests and Values Tools this works, because there are no mappings in the Values package. What about conversion of VW arrays to Pharo literal arrays? How is that done? (I think you mean dynamic arrays like {1. âabcâ size. 42} in which evaluation happens (in contrast to literal things which can be resolved already by the compiler). Yes, dynamic arrays. Not! Since a while, VW also has dynamic arrays, but not in VW 8.3 â the last publicly available version. Okay, I was wondering when that would happen. I will not shut out those users, because âopen-sourceâ would be quite absurd, if it is only available for paying customers. In 8.3, the compiler does not accept that syntax and therefore, there is no easy way to represent this in replacement code. So, no. It is not possible until Cincom releases an public version which can handle that. Okay. I recall that one of the Smalltalks (I donât recall which) had Stream semantics differing from VWâs. â¦ I just checked. VWâs #upTo: method includes the object and leaves the index after it, and Pharoâs excludes the object and leaves the index at the object. So that is some major breakage if we donât correct it. Can it be done automatically? Yes, these are the usual porting challenges and exactly the reason why this library exists :). Thank you for the question :). Yes, the stream semantics need to be fixed. The idea is that a set of transforms for this issue can be reused by others. Okay. >> valuesLocalTransform has lots of juicy bits. But this doesnât look very simple. We canât just replace an old method with a new one. We also have to write the new one to tweak how the indices are used in #upTo:, and make sure that new method gets filed-in as well into the Pharo target image. Or, we have to do this kind of change manually. Naa, itâs very easy, I think :). A PackageChange specifies transforms for classes used in the package (#localChanges) and #extensions for system classes of the target. For a class, you can have a ClassChange describing the changes to instance or class methods. A MethodChange has 4 subclasses for: - Ignore â donât write this method to the target - Add â add this new method (not in the source system) to the target - Replace â replace the body of this method with other code - Rewrite â rewrite the method source using a rewrite rule. Add and Replace need the target code. Add then always involves a new name for a method in the target. Replaces use an old name in the target with a new code body. This is stored in another method with a derived name like #_ph_upTo: . The method name is not important, because only the body of the method is used. But the name should not be used in the source â it is just a holder for the replacement code. These methods live in the specific [<Smalltalk> Fileout <Package>] package. Okay. There are lots of working(!) examples for all of those in the PDFtalk transform project. This bit (SystemClassChange className: #Color instanceChanges: (Array with: (Add method: #asColorValue code: #_ph_asColorValue))) is replacing #asColorValue with #_ph_asColorValue because some special Pharo-color conversion needs to happen. But how does #_ph_asColorValue get defined? Itâs neither in VW nor in Pharo 10. You got bitten by the old version of [Pharo Fileout Values]. Please load [Pharo Fileout PDFtalk]. There, the methods exist. Yes, I see it now. Ok. I donât have a virgin image. I have a very non-virgin image, about 27 years of development Iâm trying to port to Pharo. I donât yet have a specific interest in the PDFtalk, though I do see a need for PDF generation later, and will probably revisit that. For now, I just want my own stuff to run in Pharo. Virgin image just means that you donât need anything else. You can safely load it in you favorite special images :). I would load PDFtalk, although technically you donât need to (all the extensions to PDFtalk would be unloadable, but that doesnât affect Values). Okay. is: Load {Values Project] bundle Load {PDFtalk Project} bundle Load {Smalltalk Transform Project} bundle Load [Pharo Fileout PDFtalk] package Save, done Okay, so do I understand correctly that I need to include the PDFtalk stuff even if Iâm not interested in PDFtalk, because thatâs where a lot of the Smalltalk transformation machinery lives? Or is the PDFtalk just being used as an example for how to do a massive transformation? Or Both? No, the transformation machinery is fully independent of PDFtalk. I just tried it. The dependencies are in the specific [Pharo Fileout PDFtalk] package, since I have already quite a few replacement methods which are extensions to PDFtalk classes. Okay. PDFtalk is the focus of the project and therefore all issues are solved first with this library in mind. Therefore, bundles and namespaces are handled, for example. When you study the more interesting transformations for PDFtalk, it would be a shame not to be able to browse the methods and classes involved. So, PDFtalk is the real world reference example. And Values is the simplest example. To transform Values do: âPharo100 fileOutValuesâ The [Pharo Fileout PDFtalk] package includes the latest Values transformations. I am thinking about a better modularizationâ¦ Also, the wiki is a bit out of control. It really needs some restructuring. In the cites wiki page, there is a link to a blog where I record the changes. This might be informative. 2. Port the Values package. This is easy, since no namespaces are involved. This first instruction after VW package setup says to port the contents of the Values package from VW to Pharo. Do you mean manually? Probably not. No, no. This has been finished in March. For each dialect, I have a GitHub repository where I release important versions: <https://github.com/PortingPDFtalk/PharoPDFtalk> https://github.com/PortingPDFtalk/PharoPDFtalk. You can find the working port as first release â <https://github.com/PortingPDFtalk/PharoPDFtalk/releases/tag/1.3.0.0> Working versionâ. There you can download the ported Values fileout with the exact description with which versions of what it was created. This should be a good starting example. Why do I need any new code installed in Pharo before I begin the transformation, if Iâm transforming code from VW to pharo? Iâm not understanding the basic constraints of the problem, even when the detailed steps are clear. No, no. You donât need anything on the Pharo side. The fileouts on GitHub are the end products of a transformation for people who donât use VisualWorks, but want to use Values in Pharo. Or help with PDFtalk by fixing some issues, so that I can write the transformations. Iâve done these steps so far: 1. Went to <https://github.com/PortingPDFtalk/PharoPDFtalk> https://github.com/PortingPDFtalk/PharoPDFtalk. Mistake :). You donât want to look at the unfinished product of the current version of thincomplete transformations for PDFtalk. Do you mean âfinishedâ here? Isnât that file-in the finished result? I thought the above links was the currently finished result (as good as it can be until the rest of the bugs are goine and tests all run). Yes, that was confusing. Thatâs why I had the early impression that Values was somehow apart of the transformation machinery. See https://wiki.pdftalk.de/doku.php?id=stateoftheport#pharo-10-0: Instead, you want to look at the unfinished product of the transformations of your projects :). 2. Saved down PDFtalk.Pharo100.st into <my Pharo 10 image directory>/pharo-local/Smalltalk-Transformation. (I figured that was a good place to save it. If anyone disagrees, or has a better or more conventional idea about where files should be saved, please say so. I setup a Pharo Git repo and played with it briefly for the first time yesterday. Iâve used Pharo off an on for 16 years, but this is the first time Iâm making a serious effort to manage source, and not throw away what Iâm working on.) 3. Filed-in PDFtalk.Pharo100.st. This went on for about 7 minutes or so. I have a hundreds if not over a thousand classes showing in Epicea. Is there anyway to get Epicea to give me a count of changes with a time-range filter? 4. Deleted (forgot) yesterdayâs, old Main practice-repo from both the image and the drive, and made a new one. I need to add to Main all the packages I just filed-in, but I donât see an efficient way to do that. I would like to use the Add Package button, but this gives a filtered list of available packages. I can filter subgroups, and then individually select each of the checkboxes to the left of each package (there is no Ctrl-A [select all] option here, which seems to be a strange omission given the potentially large number of packages involved). I see lots of prefixes for the classes just loaded. I could easily miss something if I filter/select/add one prefix-group at a time. Is there an easier way? Over in Epicea I donât see a way to push the loaded items listed to a specific repo. The first thought I have is to select all filed-in code artifacts by datetime span. I did that and saved it as an .ombu file (I have no idea what that is). I donât see a way to import that .ombu file into repo Mainâs âWorking copyâ window. It must be easy, but I donât see it. Please suggest the best way. Iâd like to know as well â I am not quite familiar with the source management concepts in Pharo. I asked in Discord. I donât understand why stuff like this is missing. The only conclusion I can draw is that no one does huge file-ins (but you do). It is planned to generate Tonel output in the future, but for now I feel safer with the traditional fileout where I can have doIts. I am not sure how Tonel reacts to crippled sources, which are normal during the development of the transformations. Shaping From: christian.haider <christian.haider(a)smalltalked-visuals.com <mailto:christian.haider@smalltalked-visuals.com> > Sent: Wednesday, 22 June, 2022 05:42 To: pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org <mailto:pharo-users@lists.pharo.org> Subject: [Pharo-users] [PDFtalk] second fileOut for Squeak and Pharo With help from the community some issues were fixed which improved the test statistics nicely. Check it out: https://wiki.pdftalk.de/doku.php?id=portingblog#second_pdftalk_fileout_for_… Thanks to everybody involved! Happy hacking, Christian

Aug. 9, 2022

Re: [Pharo-dev] Omnibase/Monibase repository removal

by Dale Henrichs

Sorry to have interrupted ... I just remember that folks have moved from OmniBase to GemStone in the past for "performance reasons" and understand that those aren't the only reasons for having an OmniBase replacement ... Dale On Mon, Aug 8, 2022 at 10:22 AM Yanni Chiu <yannix7db(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Dale, > > Itâs not about inventing a âdatabaseâ, itâs a requirement to persist data > beyond image start/stop, along with intangibles like having the full source > code to tune for individual requirements. In my case the top (desired) > requirements are single directory or file per user (scaling), and no > additional server process(es) to be monitored for failure mode. > > Yanni > > On Mon, Aug 8, 2022 at 12:44 PM Dale Henrichs < > dale.henrichs(a)gemtalksystems.com> wrote: > >> Norbert, >> Before you go off and invent a data base, you might take a look at >> GemStone and RemoteServiceReplication[1] ... >> >> Dale >> >> [1] https://github.com/GemTalk/RemoteServiceReplication >> >> On Mon, Aug 8, 2022 at 6:19 AM Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: >> >>> To all Omnibase and Monibase users. >>> >>> It turned out that neither of those are open source. The author of the >>> database contacted me clarifying the situation that he has the copyright >>> and never released something open source. This means that I will remove the >>> Omnibase repositories in few weeks from >>> >>> https://github.com/ApptiveGrid/MoniBase >>> >>> and >>> >>> https://github.com/pharo-nosql/OmniBase >>> >>> I'm very sorry about that but someone just took the code 9 years before, >>> copied it on github and put illegally an MIT license to the repository. We >>> only want free software in our repositories and hence the above will go >>> away. >>> >>> As we see it essential to have a good OO database in pharo we will see >>> how much effort it will be build a small and simple OO database that can >>> replace Omnibase. >>> >>> regards, >>> >>> Norbert >>> >>

Aug. 8, 2022