May 2021 - Pharo-users - lists.pharo.org

Re: Creating an SDL (OSWindow) window without showing the pharo interface

by Russ Whaley

Thanks! Canât wait to try it! On Sun, May 2, 2021 at 6:15 AM kmo <voxkmp(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Russ - > > The trick is to put the --no-quit after the eval not before it. I was > putting it in the wrong place. > > This should work: > > ./pharo Pharo.image eval --no-quit "OSWindowWorldMorph new open" > > This works with the latest headless VM and Pharo 9. > > Hope this helps. > > Ken > > > > > -- > Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html > -- Russ Whaley whaley.russ(a)gmail.com

May 2, 2021

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Freezing Pharo 9 development right now :)

by Noury Bouraqadi

Excellent news! On Apr 30 2021, at 11:04 pm, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)netc.eu> wrote: > Hi, > > So, today I was checking how much it is missing for release and what is our status, and I realized if we do not freeze now, we will never release in a reasonable time. > So, even if there are a couple of cleanups and that to still do that should happen before, I will declare that Pharo 9.0 enters in freeze Pharo 9.0 right now (and I will sneak the cleanups anyway, but being more careful). > > What does this means? > No more features, just bugfixes > > No more fixes of things that can wait until Pharo 10 > > > > In two weeks I will open the Pharo 10 development branch, up to then, please help fixing what's missing (which is a lot) ! > Have a great weekend, > cheers! > Esteban

May 2, 2021

Re: Creating an SDL (OSWindow) window without showing the pharo interface

by kmo

Russ - The trick is to put the --no-quit after the eval not before it. I was putting it in the wrong place. This should work: ./pharo Pharo.image eval --no-quit "OSWindowWorldMorph new open" This works with the latest headless VM and Pharo 9. Hope this helps. Ken -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html

May 2, 2021

Re: Creating a Spec -GTK window without showing the pharo IDE

by kmo

Many thanks Estaban. All OK now. I forgot to add in the --no-quit but I would have put it in the wrong place anyway. I never thought it had to go after the eval. -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html

May 2, 2021

Re: Creating a Spec -GTK window without showing the pharo IDE

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Thanks esteban I copied and pasted your email in the how to draft in Spec2 book. S > On 1 May 2021, at 20:47, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)netc.eu> wrote: > > Hello, > > Remember: every time you execute "pharo-ui" you are invoking the UI (as the last part of the name says). If you want to NOT have the UI, you need to execute "pharo" : > > ./pharo Pharo.Image eval RunGtk execute > > BUT: this will not work because the image will evaluate "RunGtk execute" and then will exit (because it will evaluate it as a script). To avoid that you need to execute: > > ./pharo Pharo.Image eval --no-quit "RunGtk execute" > > That will work as you want. > > BUT, this is not how executing Spec applications is envisaged : > > I guess you defined an application (a children of SpApplication?) where you set your backend to make it a Gtk application ? > and you have override #start to do something like (MyPresenter newApplication: self) openWithSpec ? > > In that case, you just need to define in your application class (say is named MyApplication) : > > MyApplication class >> applicationName > ^ 'gtkapp' > > then, is enough to say: > > ./pharo Pharo.image run gtkapp > > which would be the "canonical" way to do it :) > > Esteban > > > On May 1 2021, at 1:12 pm, kmo <voxkmp(a)gmail.com> wrote: > After not lookng at it for I while, I tried the Gtk Spec bindings again on my > Xubuntu desktop and - this time - they worked. I was able to open a new > window using Spec-Gtk, the latest headless VM and the latest Pharo 9. > (Many thanks to all concerned). > > But I've immediately hit the same issue as I've raised before with SLD > support (OSWindow) - it seems impossible to open a Gtk window without the > whole Pharo IDE being shown as well. > > If I run the following command line - > > ./pharo-ui Pharo.Image eval RunGtk execute > > I get the Pharo IDE and a GTK window opened > > If I run > > ./pharo Pharo.Image eval RunGtk execute > > I just get the string RunGtk returned. No window opens. > > I presume this will work some time in the future. Otherwise what's the use > of Spec-Gtk (or OSWindow for that matter)? You might as well just use Spec > on Morphic. > > > > -- > Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html -------------------------------------------- StÃ©phane Ducasse http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr / http://www.pharo.org 03 59 35 87 52 Assistant: Aurore Dalle FAX 03 59 57 78 50 TEL 03 59 35 86 16 S. Ducasse - Inria 40, avenue Halley, Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, BÃ¢t.A, Park Plaza Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650 France

May 1, 2021

Re: Creating a Spec -GTK window without showing the pharo IDE

by Esteban Lorenzano

Hello, Remember: every time you execute "pharo-ui" you are invoking the UI (as the last part of the name says). If you want to NOT have the UI, you need to execute "pharo" : ./pharo Pharo.Image eval RunGtk execute BUT: this will not work because the image will evaluate "RunGtk execute" and then will exit (because it will evaluate it as a script). To avoid that you need to execute: ./pharo Pharo.Image eval --no-quit "RunGtk execute" That will work as you want. BUT, this is not how executing Spec applications is envisaged : I guess you defined an application (a children of SpApplication?) where you set your backend to make it a Gtk application ? and you have override #start to do something like (MyPresenter newApplication: self) openWithSpec ? In that case, you just need to define in your application class (say is named MyApplication) : MyApplication class >> applicationName ^ 'gtkapp' then, is enough to say: ./pharo Pharo.image run gtkapp which would be the "canonical" way to do it :) Esteban On May 1 2021, at 1:12 pm, kmo <voxkmp(a)gmail.com> wrote: > After not lookng at it for I while, I tried the Gtk Spec bindings again on my > Xubuntu desktop and - this time - they worked. I was able to open a new > window using Spec-Gtk, the latest headless VM and the latest Pharo 9. > (Many thanks to all concerned). > > But I've immediately hit the same issue as I've raised before with SLD > support (OSWindow) - it seems impossible to open a Gtk window without the > whole Pharo IDE being shown as well. > > If I run the following command line - > ./pharo-ui Pharo.Image eval RunGtk execute > I get the Pharo IDE and a GTK window opened > If I run > ./pharo Pharo.Image eval RunGtk execute > I just get the string RunGtk returned. No window opens. > I presume this will work some time in the future. Otherwise what's the use > of Spec-Gtk (or OSWindow for that matter)? You might as well just use Spec > on Morphic. > > > > -- > Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html >

May 1, 2021

Creating a Spec -GTK window without showing the pharo IDE

by kmo

After not lookng at it for I while, I tried the Gtk Spec bindings again on my Xubuntu desktop and - this time - they worked. I was able to open a new window using Spec-Gtk, the latest headless VM and the latest Pharo 9. (Many thanks to all concerned). But I've immediately hit the same issue as I've raised before with SLD support (OSWindow) - it seems impossible to open a Gtk window without the whole Pharo IDE being shown as well. If I run the following command line - ./pharo-ui Pharo.Image eval RunGtk execute I get the Pharo IDE and a GTK window opened If I run ./pharo Pharo.Image eval RunGtk execute I just get the string RunGtk returned. No window opens. I presume this will work some time in the future. Otherwise what's the use of Spec-Gtk (or OSWindow for that matter)? You might as well just use Spec on Morphic. -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html

May 1, 2021