February 2021 - Pharo-users

Re: RabbitMQ and Pharo

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

Hi, You could use the following: https://github.com/svenvc/stamp which is an implementation of STOMP https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streaming_Text_Oriented_Messaging_Protocol which works fine with RabbitMQ and Pharo. Sven > On 5 Feb 2021, at 17:03, saogat.rab--- via Pharo-users <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I was wondering if anyone here used RabbitMQ in Pharo. Would like to hear about your experience. > > > > Kind regards, > > Saogat >

Feb. 5, 2021

RabbitMQ and Pharo

by saogat.rab＠icloud.com

Hi, I was wondering if anyone here used RabbitMQ in Pharo. Would like to hear about your experience. Kind regards, Saogat

Feb. 5, 2021

Re: pharo 8 - method versions - how to see author/timestamp?

by Noury Bouraqadi

So, will this remain in the image, and the timestamp will be eventually fixed? Thanks

Feb. 5, 2021

Re: pharo 8 - method versions - how to see author/timestamp?

by Esteban Lorenzano

We do not lose the history of changes between commits, Noury. You still have the changes in-image (which was where they were before). What you do not have anymore in the image is the author information. But changes are there, version browser still shows all your changes, as before (just without timestamp, for the moment). Esteban On Feb 5 2021, at 4:01 pm, Noury Bouraqadi <bouraqadi(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks Esteban for pointing the history tool + reminding the roadmap. > There is something we'll be missing is that we loose the history of changes between commits. > > Often I experiment different implementations or introduce some code just for debug purpose. I do it between commits. Is there a solution to this? > Noury > On Feb 5 2021, at 2:59 pm, Davide Varvello via Pharo-users <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> wrote: > > Thanks > > > > > > Esteban Lorenzano wrote > > > indeed, it will fetch the history of each method that belongs to an > > > iceberg repository. > > > > > > Esteban > > > On Feb 5 2021, at 11:50 am, Davide Varvello via Pharo-users < > > > > > pharo-users@.pharo > > > > wrote: > > >> Hi Esteban, > > >> The "history" button in the minitoolbar of calypso is related to git, > > >> right? > > >> Because it's not shown in every method > > >> Cheers > > >> Davide > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html > > >

Feb. 5, 2021

Re: pharo 8 - method versions - how to see author/timestamp?

by Noury Bouraqadi

Thanks Esteban for pointing the history tool + reminding the roadmap. There is something we'll be missing is that we loose the history of changes between commits. Often I experiment different implementations or introduce some code just for debug purpose. I do it between commits. Is there a solution to this? Noury On Feb 5 2021, at 2:59 pm, Davide Varvello via Pharo-users <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> wrote: > Thanks > > > Esteban Lorenzano wrote > > indeed, it will fetch the history of each method that belongs to an > > iceberg repository. > > > > Esteban > > On Feb 5 2021, at 11:50 am, Davide Varvello via Pharo-users < > > > pharo-users@.pharo > > > wrote: > >> Hi Esteban, > >> The "history" button in the minitoolbar of calypso is related to git, > >> right? > >> Because it's not shown in every method > >> Cheers > >> Davide > > > > > > -- > Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html >

Feb. 5, 2021

Re: pharo 8 - method versions - how to see author/timestamp?

by Davide Varvello

Thanks Esteban Lorenzano wrote > indeed, it will fetch the history of each method that belongs to an > iceberg repository. > > Esteban > On Feb 5 2021, at 11:50 am, Davide Varvello via Pharo-users < > pharo-users@.pharo > > wrote: >> Hi Esteban, >> The "history" button in the minitoolbar of calypso is related to git, >> right? >> Because it's not shown in every method >> Cheers >> Davide -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html

Feb. 5, 2021

Re: pharo 8 - method versions - how to see author/timestamp?

by Esteban Lorenzano

indeed, it will fetch the history of each method that belongs to an iceberg repository. Esteban On Feb 5 2021, at 11:50 am, Davide Varvello via Pharo-users <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> wrote: > Hi Esteban, > The "history" button in the minitoolbar of calypso is related to git, right? > Because it's not shown in every method > Cheers > Davide > > > Esteban Lorenzano wrote > > Hi all, > > > > While the timestamp for the in-image change is, indeed, missing and needs > > to be fixed, I want to point that we are abandoning the in-image author > > tracking by method and replacing it with the git history (which wive you > > also authorship and timestamp by commit). > > This method commit history is already there (since Pharo 8) and can be > > queried with the "history" button in the minitoolbar of calypso, same > > place where you have the access to the version browser. > > Yes, it is not the same, but it fulfills correctly (and improves it, since > > it gives you the whole method history, not just what you have in image) > > the old version functionality, which however will remain as a track of > > in-image changes, but without the author (since is not needed). > > > > Even more, all the Author infrastructure is target for removal in next > > versions of Pharo (just not right now :P) > > cheers! > > Esteban > > > > On Feb 5 2021, at 9:16 am, Richard Sargent < > > > richard.sargent@ > > > wrote: > >> Oh, yes/ That is one of the things I most love about ENVY and miss in > >> everything else. > >> What is the change history of this method, class, package, etc.? > >> > >> > >> > >> On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 10:09 PM Kasper Osterbye < > > > kasper.osterbye@ > > (mailto: > > kasper.osterbye@ > > )> wrote: > >> > I went in and updated the corresponding github issue > >> (https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/issues/7283) The tool is really > >> useful, and it would be nice to have the author and timestamp in place > >> again. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html >

Feb. 5, 2021

Re: pharo 8 - method versions - how to see author/timestamp?

by Davide Varvello

Hi Esteban, The "history" button in the minitoolbar of calypso is related to git, right? Because it's not shown in every method Cheers Davide Esteban Lorenzano wrote > Hi all, > > While the timestamp for the in-image change is, indeed, missing and needs > to be fixed, I want to point that we are abandoning the in-image author > tracking by method and replacing it with the git history (which wive you > also authorship and timestamp by commit). > This method commit history is already there (since Pharo 8) and can be > queried with the "history" button in the minitoolbar of calypso, same > place where you have the access to the version browser. > Yes, it is not the same, but it fulfills correctly (and improves it, since > it gives you the whole method history, not just what you have in image) > the old version functionality, which however will remain as a track of > in-image changes, but without the author (since is not needed). > > Even more, all the Author infrastructure is target for removal in next > versions of Pharo (just not right now :P) > cheers! > Esteban > > On Feb 5 2021, at 9:16 am, Richard Sargent < > richard.sargent@ > > wrote: >> Oh, yes/ That is one of the things I most love about ENVY and miss in >> everything else. >> What is the change history of this method, class, package, etc.? >> >> >> >> On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 10:09 PM Kasper Osterbye < > kasper.osterbye@ > (mailto: > kasper.osterbye@ > )> wrote: >> > I went in and updated the corresponding github issue >> (https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/issues/7283) The tool is really >> useful, and it would be nice to have the author and timestamp in place >> again. >> > >> > >> > >> >> -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html

Feb. 5, 2021

Re: pharo 8 - method versions - how to see author/timestamp?

by Kasper Osterbye

Based on your comments Esteban, I have suggested to close the corresponding issue 7283. Closer integration to git from within the image sounds promising. >

Feb. 5, 2021

Re: pharo 8 - method versions - how to see author/timestamp?

by Richard Sargent

Thanks, Estaban. I realize that you are not offering a solution. But, you are recognizing the benefit of one. On February 5, 2021 12:33:14 AM PST, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)netc.eu> wrote: >change history for method is already there (as explained in my previous >mail). >for class and package level is something I always wanted to implement >(class level is particularly easy to implement, with tonel format) but >I didn't find the time to do it. >Volunteers to implement are welcome! ;) > >Esteban >On Feb 5 2021, at 9:16 am, Richard Sargent ><richard.sargent(a)gemtalksystems.com> wrote: >> Oh, yes/ That is one of the things I most love about ENVY and miss in >everything else. >> What is the change history of this method, class, package, etc.? >> >> >> >> On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 10:09 PM Kasper Osterbye ><kasper.osterbye(a)gmail.com (mailto:kasper.osterbye@gmail.com)> wrote: >> > I went in and updated the corresponding github issue >(https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/issues/7283) The tool is >really useful, and it would be nice to have the author and timestamp in >place again. >> > >> > >> > >> >>

Feb. 5, 2021