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Re: [Pharo-users] Agile Artificial Intelligence in Pharo book

by G B

Thank you both. It shows the problem as:"a MCSmalltalkhubRepository(http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/Athens/main/)" self I'll wait for it to return to service. On Sunday, July 12, 2020, 7:43:46 PM CDT, Gabriel Cotelli <g.cotelli(a)gmail.com> wrote: Smalltalk Hub is a code hosting platform and it's having problems these days. Looks like the book code has some dependency hosted there, so I think that when the problem gets solved it should work again.Â On Sun, Jul 12, 2020, 20:22 G B via Pharo-users <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> wrote: I bought "Agile Artificial Intelligence in Pharo" and am using Pharo 8.0 64-bit.Â In the book it says you can download the source using: Metacello newÂ baseline: 'AgileArtificialIntelligence';Â repository: 'github://Apress/agile-ai-in-pharo/src';Â load. Then it times out with:"MCSmalltalkhubRepository(MCRepository)>>error:" self Could not load Athens-SVG-PeterUhnak.17.mcz:ZnHttpUnsuccessful: 503 Service Temporarily Unavailable I am fairly new to Pharo and run into problems with documentation being old, for example, Pharo By Example. I realize it is difficult to keep books updated with the many changes in an active project. I'm fine with that. However, how can a just published book have the source listed in its pages, but then not have it available?

July 13, 2020

Re: [Pharo-users] Agile Artificial Intelligence in Pharo book

by Gabriel Cotelli

Smalltalk Hub is a code hosting platform and it's having problems these days. Looks like the book code has some dependency hosted there, so I think that when the problem gets solved it should work again. On Sun, Jul 12, 2020, 20:22 G B via Pharo-users <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> wrote: > I bought "Agile Artificial Intelligence in Pharo" and am using Pharo 8.0 > 64-bit. In the book it says you can download the source using: > > Metacello new > baseline: 'AgileArtificialIntelligence'; > repository: 'github://Apress/agile-ai-in-pharo/src'; > load. > > Then it times out with: > "MCSmalltalkhubRepository(MCRepository)>>error:" > self > > Could not load Athens-SVG-PeterUhnak.17.mcz: > ZnHttpUnsuccessful: 503 Service Temporarily > Unavailable > > I am fairly new to Pharo and run into problems with documentation being > old, for example, Pharo By Example. I realize it is difficult to keep books > updated with the many changes in an active project. I'm fine with that. > > However, how can a just published book have the source listed in its > pages, but then not have it available? > > >

July 13, 2020

Re: [Pharo-users] Agile Artificial Intelligence in Pharo book

by Richard Sargent

It is possible that one of the prerequisites comes from smalltalkhub.com, as that site has been down for the last couple of days. On Sun, Jul 12, 2020, 15:53 G B via Pharo-users <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> wrote: > I bought "Agile Artificial Intelligence in Pharo" and am using Pharo 8.0 > 64-bit. In the book it says you can download the source using: > > Metacello new > baseline: 'AgileArtificialIntelligence'; > repository: 'github://Apress/agile-ai-in-pharo/src'; > load. > > Then it times out with: > "MCSmalltalkhubRepository(MCRepository)>>error:" > self > > Could not load Athens-SVG-PeterUhnak.17.mcz: > ZnHttpUnsuccessful: 503 Service Temporarily > Unavailable > > I am fairly new to Pharo and run into problems with documentation being > old, for example, Pharo By Example. I realize it is difficult to keep books > updated with the many changes in an active project. I'm fine with that. > > However, how can a just published book have the source listed in its > pages, but then not have it available? > > >

July 13, 2020

Agile Artificial Intelligence in Pharo book

by G B

I bought "Agile Artificial Intelligence in Pharo" and am using Pharo 8.0 64-bit.Â In the book it says you can download the source using: Metacello newÂ baseline: 'AgileArtificialIntelligence';Â repository: 'github://Apress/agile-ai-in-pharo/src';Â load. Then it times out with:"MCSmalltalkhubRepository(MCRepository)>>error:" self Could not load Athens-SVG-PeterUhnak.17.mcz:ZnHttpUnsuccessful: 503 Service Temporarily Unavailable I am fairly new to Pharo and run into problems with documentation being old, for example, Pharo By Example. I realize it is difficult to keep books updated with the many changes in an active project. I'm fine with that. However, how can a just published book have the source listed in its pages, but then not have it available?

July 12, 2020

Re: [Pharo-users] smalltalkhub down

by Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas

Hi, On 12/07/20 4:19 a.Â m., Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > >> On 11 Jul 2020, at 23:34, Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas <offray.luna(a)mutabit.com> wrote: >> >> This seems that SmalltakHub will be down several days. I understand that >> moving to Git is important, but I hope that SmalltalkHub would be >> readable at least to make such migration continue to those of us how >> have started it and, in fact possible. > I am sure somebody will fix the *readonly* version of SmalltalkHub as soon as possible. > > This should not happen. Agreed. I'm aware that this was a read only version as my migration to self hosted Gitea consisted in reading old StHub repositories and writing new versions on Gitea, using GitMigration, while learning Iceberg... Now I'm reading books and seeing series on this forced coding break. Trying to see the bright side ;-). >> Well... time for a forced break on Pharo usage as I'm unable to >> use/migrate previous build stuff. > But, except for established CI build pipelines, I fail to see how this would affect normal developers. Usually, you have your main work image that has all the bits that you need loaded. You can then just continue to do whatever you were doing. > > Both classic MC and git are *distributed* version control systems, you do not need a server. You can commit locally. > jkjlj > Package caches next to images also contain all versions recently loaded, which could be useful in case of emergency. I was working on migrating Grafoscopio from 7.x to 8.x and from StHub to Gitea and building a new hobby project related with Table Top Role Playing (TTRPG) powered by Pharo (news when is more mature). At some point I needed TaskIt with futures provided in the bug fix proposed to Santiago by Norbert. But I was unable to load the issue fix branch on 7.x. So I said, what the heck lets inmerse on 8.x, using use Grafoscopio there and let's migrate all the remaining pre-requisites for this, so I can also ask for support in the official platform. That was when the StHub down hit me since Friday. But I'm catching on inspiring series and reading for the TTRPG project... so it has been a good weekend anyway :-). Thanks for Iceberg and all the work you do on infrastructure behind Pharo. As Susan Leigh Star[1] said, infrastructure is invisible until it fails. That doesn't mean that I don't value the work behind it. Cheers, Offray [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_Leigh_Star

July 12, 2020

Updated Alpine Linux Pharo VM Docker image

by Pierce Ng

Hi all, I've updated the Docker image for pharo.cog.spur.minheadless VM built on Alpine Linux. This version is built on Alpine Linux 3.12. Some links: - https://hub.docker.com/r/pierceng/pharovm-alpine - https://github.com/pharo-contributions/Docker-Alpine/tree/master/vm.build - https://github.com/PierceNg/opensmalltalk-vm/tree/pierce_alpine_839a5ca This version removes the following plugins. I'm still thinking about some of the others, especially the GUI-related ones. The idea is of course to have the smallest possible set of plugins. Comments welcome. - Security - Drop - Croquet - DSAPrims - JoystickTablet - MIDI - Serial - StarSqueak - InternetConfig The output Docker image contains the Pharo VM only and is not runnable by itself. It is intended to be used as a base to build your own Docker image containing your application-specific Pharo image. I'll be building a similar Docker image for Pharo's fork of the VM. Pierce

July 12, 2020

Re: [Pharo-users] smalltalkhub down

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

> On 11 Jul 2020, at 23:34, Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas <offray.luna(a)mutabit.com> wrote: > > This seems that SmalltakHub will be down several days. I understand that > moving to Git is important, but I hope that SmalltalkHub would be > readable at least to make such migration continue to those of us how > have started it and, in fact possible. I am sure somebody will fix the *readonly* version of SmalltalkHub as soon as possible. This should not happen. > Well... time for a forced break on Pharo usage as I'm unable to > use/migrate previous build stuff. But, except for established CI build pipelines, I fail to see how this would affect normal developers. Usually, you have your main work image that has all the bits that you need loaded. You can then just continue to do whatever you were doing. Both classic MC and git are *distributed* version control systems, you do not need a server. You can commit locally. Package caches next to images also contain all versions recently loaded, which could be useful in case of emergency. > Offray > > On 11/07/20 2:29 p. m., Dale Henrichs wrote: >> ... and it is still down today ... having smalltalkhub down is >> starting to interfere with builds, hopefully we won't have to wait too >> long for the problem to be resolved ... >> >> Dale >> >> On 7/10/20 2:59 PM, PAUL DEBRUICKER wrote: >>> https://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/smalltalkhub.com >>> >> >

July 12, 2020

Re: [Pharo-users] glamorous toolkit & pharo

by Tudor Girba

Hi, I am glad it was useful. Our aim is to play the long term game and to sustain the evolution and support of GT. Time will tell if we succeed, but that is certainly the goal. Cheers, Doru > On Jul 10, 2020, at 1:39 AM, Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas <offray.luna(a)mutabit.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > Is really good to see these advantages and the new features. > > My main concern has been always a long term support and the... > transportability of previous developments to future versions. There is > any roadmap or Long Term Support or will Feenk act kind of like Pharo > Pro for GT? Any place to find more information on this? > > Cheers, > > Offray > > On 7/07/20 4:06 p. m., Tudor Girba wrote: >> Hi, >> >> As Glamorous Toolkit gets closer to being released, we get quite a number of questions on various channels about its relationship with Pharo. >> >> Glamorous Toolkit is built with Pharo. It is unlikely that we would have been able to produce it in any other language within the constraints we faced. >> >> At the same time, Glamorous Toolkit is a separate project produced by feenk with a distinct goal and its own realization. >> >> Here is a short overview of what we mean by it: >> https://blog.feenk.com/glamorous-toolkit-and-pharo-5aufgcequ38az2s0dj0t1nu0… >> >> Please do let us know if you have concerns or questions. >> >> Cheers, >> Doru >> >> -- >> feenk.com >> >> [fiËÅk] >> verb >> feel and think concomitantly. >> >> >> >> > > -- feenk.com "Quality cannot be an afterthought."

July 12, 2020

need suggestion badly

by shawon58

Hello I am doing masters project where i need to use pharo and freeCAD. In my work i need to send some parameter to freeCAD which can create a cube or other type shape. After getting some idea i write a C++ code that can send command to freeCAD to create a cube.step file so that means i have the file for cube now. Just i need to compile and send some parameter to through command line. below i have attached my screenshot to show the gui. a simple gui to send command line command using LibC function. where i can compile and execute than run my box or other file using pharo gui. But my supervisor want me to send parameter from pharo to that file which i dont know how to do. if i can send the parameter to that file or exe than my work complete. as my limition is c++ file cause c++ file can hand freeCAD command. Also i know if my file is c file than maybe i can use ffi . Now i need suggestion is there any way to do ? need your kind advice . Thanks <http://forum.world.st/file/t372453/a.png> -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html

July 12, 2020

Re: [Pharo-users] smalltalkhub down

by Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas

This seems that SmalltakHub will be down several days. I understand that moving to Git is important, but I hope that SmalltalkHub would be readable at least to make such migration continue to those of us how have started it and, in fact possible. Well... time for a forced break on Pharo usage as I'm unable to use/migrate previous build stuff. Offray On 11/07/20 2:29 p.Â m., Dale Henrichs wrote: > ... and it is still down today ... having smalltalkhub down is > starting to interfere with builds, hopefully we won't have to wait too > long for the problem to be resolved ... > > Dale > > On 7/10/20 2:59 PM, PAUL DEBRUICKER wrote: >> https://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/smalltalkhub.com >> >

July 11, 2020