June 2020 - Pharo-users - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] What are reasons NOT to use Smalltalk?

by Todd Blanchard

HTML+CSS+JQuery has been stable for a long time. That's pretty much what I use (plus the odd jquery widget like date picker). Not keen on writing code I know will be obsolete next year was my primary point. > On Jun 19, 2020, at 12:14 PM, Aliaksei Syrel <alex.syrel(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Imagine trying to build any UI in javascript with their wide family of frameworks ;)

June 19, 2020

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] What are reasons NOT to use Smalltalk?

by Todd Blanchard

It isn't plug and play. For instance, I can pick PHP on an AWS elastic beanstalk menu, set up a couple shell scripts, and deploy PHP with 'eb deploy' out of my local git repo. Easy. It is possible to deploy the stuff but to build infrastructure and deployment scripts for a pharo seaside app, it is a lot more DIY work. I don't always have time to do that. I can get a box up,, sure. Getting a fleet up with deployment automation and autoscaling is another can of worms. > On Jun 19, 2020, at 12:18 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: > > If you are capable of deploying web applications, for any other technology stack, there is really no issue in doing the same for Pharo.

June 19, 2020

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] What are reasons NOT to use Smalltalk?

by Esteban Maringolo

In my case it didn't let me vote at all, it assumed I already voted. I started a private tab, disabled tracking (it tracks a lot for a single post), and then saw the options, and there wasn't a "none of the above/other" kind of option. So I didn't vote. Esteban A. Maringolo On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 2:02 PM Richard Sargent <richard.sargent(a)gemtalksystems.com> wrote: > > It wouldn't let me vote without choosing an answer, none of which were my answer. > > On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 9:32 AM Richard Kenneth Eng <horrido.hobbies(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> https://smalltalk.tech.blog/2020/06/19/what-are-reasons-not-to-use-smalltal… >> >> Thanks for participating in the poll.

June 19, 2020

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] What are reasons NOT to use Smalltalk?

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

Todd, > On 19 Jun 2020, at 19:04, Todd Blanchard via Pharo-users <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> wrote: > > > From: Todd Blanchard <tblanchard(a)mac.com> > Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] What are reasons NOT to use Smalltalk? > Date: 19 June 2020 at 19:04:37 CEST > To: Any question about pharo is welcome <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> > > > Same. My biggest hesitation is lack of cloud deployment support. At least for web apps. If you are capable of deploying web applications, for any other technology stack, there is really no issue in doing the same for Pharo. Sven > For desktop apps, I have been holding off building any UI because of the brik blok spec spec2 churn. > >> On Jun 19, 2020, at 10:02 AM, Richard Sargent <richard.sargent(a)gemtalksystems.com> wrote: >> >> It wouldn't let me vote without choosing an answer, none of which were my answer. >> >> On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 9:32 AM Richard Kenneth Eng <horrido.hobbies(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> https://smalltalk.tech.blog/2020/06/19/what-are-reasons-not-to-use-smalltal… >> >> Thanks for participating in the poll. > > >

June 19, 2020

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] What are reasons NOT to use Smalltalk?

by Aliaksei Syrel

> > For desktop apps, I have been holding off building any UI because of the > brik blok spec spec2 churn. Imagine trying to build any UI in javascript with their wide family of frameworks ;) On Fri, 19 Jun 2020 at 20:40, Todd Blanchard via Pharo-users < pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> wrote: > Same. My biggest hesitation is lack of cloud deployment support. At > least for web apps. > > For desktop apps, I have been holding off building any UI because of the > brik blok spec spec2 churn. > > On Jun 19, 2020, at 10:02 AM, Richard Sargent < > richard.sargent(a)gemtalksystems.com> wrote: > > It wouldn't let me vote without choosing an answer, none of which were my > answer. > > On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 9:32 AM Richard Kenneth Eng < > horrido.hobbies(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> https://smalltalk.tech.blog/2020/06/19/what-are-reasons-not-to-use-smalltal… >> >> >> Thanks for participating in the poll. >> > >

June 19, 2020

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] What are reasons NOT to use Smalltalk?

by Richard Sargent

On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 11:39 AM horrido <horrido.hobbies(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I'm not sure I understand. Are you saying you tried to submit "Vote" > without > checking off any of the boxes? > Yes, that is what I am saying. None of those are reasons to NOT use Smalltalk, in my opinion. > You can always add comment to the post. > > > > Richard Sargent wrote > > It wouldn't let me vote without choosing an answer, none of which were my > > answer. > > > > On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 9:32 AM Richard Kenneth Eng < > > > horrido.hobbies@ > > >> wrote: > > > >> > >> > https://smalltalk.tech.blog/2020/06/19/what-are-reasons-not-to-use-smalltal… > >> > >> > >> Thanks for participating in the poll. > >> > > > > > > -- > Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html > >

June 19, 2020

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] What are reasons NOT to use Smalltalk?

by horrido

I'm not sure I understand. Are you saying you tried to submit "Vote" without checking off any of the boxes? You can always add comment to the post. Richard Sargent wrote > It wouldn't let me vote without choosing an answer, none of which were my > answer. > > On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 9:32 AM Richard Kenneth Eng < > horrido.hobbies@ >> wrote: > >> >> https://smalltalk.tech.blog/2020/06/19/what-are-reasons-not-to-use-smalltal… >> >> >> Thanks for participating in the poll. >> -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html

June 19, 2020

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] What are reasons NOT to use Smalltalk?

by Todd Blanchard

Same. My biggest hesitation is lack of cloud deployment support. At least for web apps. For desktop apps, I have been holding off building any UI because of the brik blok spec spec2 churn. > On Jun 19, 2020, at 10:02 AM, Richard Sargent <richard.sargent(a)gemtalksystems.com> wrote: > > It wouldn't let me vote without choosing an answer, none of which were my answer. > > On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 9:32 AM Richard Kenneth Eng <horrido.hobbies(a)gmail.com <mailto:horrido.hobbies@gmail.com>> wrote: > https://smalltalk.tech.blog/2020/06/19/what-are-reasons-not-to-use-smalltal… <https://smalltalk.tech.blog/2020/06/19/what-are-reasons-not-to-use-smalltal…> > > Thanks for participating in the poll.

June 19, 2020

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] What are reasons NOT to use Smalltalk?

by Richard Sargent

It wouldn't let me vote without choosing an answer, none of which were my answer. On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 9:32 AM Richard Kenneth Eng < horrido.hobbies(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > https://smalltalk.tech.blog/2020/06/19/what-are-reasons-not-to-use-smalltal… > > > Thanks for participating in the poll. >

June 19, 2020

[ANN] What are reasons NOT to use Smalltalk?

by Richard Kenneth Eng

https://smalltalk.tech.blog/2020/06/19/what-are-reasons-not-to-use-smalltal… Thanks for participating in the poll.

June 19, 2020