April 2020 - Pharo-users - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-users] Automation of MS Office from Pharo

by TomaÅ¾ Turk

Dear Peter, I'm glad that you find the package useful! Can you please explain a little bit more about your code, because it's not obvious from your description at which stage the problem occurs. Could you trace it with the debugger, and/or possibly post here the piece of code that fails? Thanks and best wishes, Tomaz ------ Original Message ------ From: "PBKResearch" <peter(a)pbkresearch.co.uk> To: "Any question about pharo is welcome" <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> Sent: 6. 04. 2020 19:15:16 Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] Automation of MS Office from Pharo >Hello Pablo (and TomaÅ¾) > > > >You asked for feedback; after a day of experiments, I have good news >and bad news. > > > >The good news is that I have been able to navigate through my Outlook >Data File, find my way to an e-mail of interest and examine the fields >of interest. This means I am 90% of the way to my objective. All I want >is to get the HTML code from the message body and pass it to >XMLHTMLParser for further analysis. I found it not too difficult to >work this out; the fact that a COMDispatchInstance can display all its >internals in a playground page meant that I could work it out >interactively as a playground exercise. I am still discovering things >about the interface; I have only just found out that I can select an >item from a list by quoting its name as an argument, rather than its >number in the list. I am sure my clumsy code can be tidied up still. > > > >I can get to the 100% point in the job by exporting the contents of the >e-mail to disk in HTML format, using the SaveAs procedure of the >MailItem object. I can then read it back from disk into the parser. But >this seems a bit clunky. The content of an HTML mail item is available >in the HTMLBody property of the MailItem, so I should be able to pass >it programmatically to the parser without going near the disk. This is >where I run into trouble. > > > >In most of the cases I tried, this worked fine; I could display the >HTML body text as a WideString in the playground, assign it to a >variable and do whatever I wanted. However, for just one e-mail I >tried, as soon as I selected âDo it and goâ in the playground, a >message came up that the VM had crashed; the application closed, >leaving only a crash dump. I cannot find anything unusual about the >message that failed in this way, except that when I save it, it >produces a larger file than any of the others (just over 1MB, against >up to 300KB for the ones that worked). Could there be a limit on the >size of some internal buffer? > > > >I thought it worth while mentioning this now, because crashing the VM >is generally undesirable. I can solve my problems safely using the >SaveAs route, so itâs not a problem for me. > > > >Hope this helps; if you want more details, let me know. Overall I am >very happy with this library. > > > >Peter Kenny > > > >From: Pharo-users <pharo-users-bounces(a)lists.pharo.org> On Behalf Of >tesonep(a)gmail.com >Sent: 06 April 2020 11:24 >To: Any question about pharo is welcome <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> >Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] Automation of MS Office from Pharo > > > >Hi Peter, > > First, thanks to try to use Pharo-COM, that is great, I love to >have users for it and find it is useful. > >Secondly, the Pharo 7 problem is an error I have introduced. It is >clear that some changes I have done to support the new version of UFFI >(the framework in Pharo to handle FFI calls) have broken the Pharo 7 >version, so I will fix it to maintain compatibility. > > > >It is great that you were able to make it work! > > > >Cheers, > > > > > >On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 12:18 PM PBKResearch <peter(a)pbkresearch.co.uk> >wrote: > >>Hello TomaÅ¾ >> >> >> >>Many thanks for your patient explanation. I should have been able to >>work out for myself how the Word test works, and indeed I realized >>some of it when I came to shut down the Word instance and its two >>documents. But it was late at night, and I should have packed up >>before then. >> >> >> >>My last test last night showed that basically I have cracked it for my >>job of automating Outlook. I have been able to connect to my running >>instance of Outlook, open my application and interrogate the names of >>my top-level folders. From now on it should be just a matter of >>understanding the MS documentation of the Outlook model. >> >> >> >>However, all this is with Pharo-Com installed in a new Pharo 8 image. >>I have no idea what went wrong with my first effort on Pharo 7. But I >>shanât worry about that â I shall gradually move all my bits and >>pieces to P8. I shall try to work it out myself from here, but I shall >>come back if I get stuck. >> >> >> >>Thanks again >> >> >> >>Peter Kenny >> >> >> >>From: Pharo-users <pharo-users-bounces(a)lists.pharo.org> On Behalf Of >>TomaÅ¾ Turk >>Sent: 06 April 2020 08:04 >>To: Any question about pharo is welcome <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> >>Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] Automation of MS Office from Pharo >> >> >> >>Hello Peter, >> >> >> >>If you look at the code in the Word test you will notice that the test >>firstly >> >>- creates a new Word instance, >> >>- makes it visible to the end user, >> >>- then adds an empty document to the documents collection with the >>text "Hello from Pharo!" >> >>- then it tests whether it can receive the same text back from Word. >> >> >> >>After that, the test >> >>- adds a new empty document to the documents collection with the text >>"Hello from Pharo! Some additional text. ", this time as an array of >>two texts >> >>- it activates this second document (this imitates the end user's >>window activation on the desktop) >> >>- then it tests whether it can receive the same text back from Word. >> >> >> >>If you look at the Task Manager, you'll notice that you have one Word >>process with two open documents: >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Namely, for each document Word creates a new, separate window - the >>documents are not displayed in one "Word application window", but >>separately - that's a normal behavior for some versions of MS Office, >>and it happens also if you open several documents directly in Word. >>So, there is just one Word instance. >> >> >> >>'finalize' clears the references to the Word instance, it doesn't >>close the program by itself. If you want to do that, you can send Quit >>message to Word before you destroy the reference >>(https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/office/vba/api/word.application.quit(metho…) >> >> >> >>Similar behaviour is with Outlook, here's one example: >>https://www.excelcommand.com/excel-help/excel-how-to.php?i=124116 >> >> >> >>The calling among COM objects is asynchronous, and it's usually wise >>to wrap it in error handling structures. >> >> >> >>Please tell us how it goes. >> >> >> >>Best wishes, >> >>Tomaz >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>------ Original Message ------ >> >>From: "PBKResearch" <peter(a)pbkresearch.co.uk> >> >>To: "Any question about pharo is welcome" >><pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> >> >>Sent: 5.4.2020 23:18:02 >> >>Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] Automation of MS Office from Pharo >> >> >> >>>Pablo - a final update before I close for the night. The Word test on >>>the pharo 8 version comes up green. The strange error message is >>>nowhere to be seen in any Pharo 8 runs. The result is not what I >>>expected; I finish up with two Word documents open, one with the >>>first message, the other with the two messages. I thought the >>>'finalize' command would close it down. >>> >>> >>> >>>Anyway, it looks as if I need to switch to P8 to use Pharo-Com. I >>>shall continue testing tomorrow on P8. >>> >>> >>> >>>Sorry for the late-night hassle. >>> >>> >>> >>>Peter >>> >>> >>> > > > > >-- > >Pablo Tesone. >tesonep(a)gmail.com >

April 7, 2020

Re: [Pharo-users] Can't able to understand the code

by Renaud de Villemeur

Hi What are you trying to do ? To use Athens ? Do you want to use it with Morphic ? Renaud Apr. 7, 2020, 08:59 by shawonhoque58(a)gmail.com: > I try to run the code which attached below. But i dont have idea what i need > to write on playground to run the code. can anyone explain what happen > actually using this class>>primImage: aFormat width: aWidth height:aHeight > > <http://forum.world.st/file/t372453/prob.png> > > > > -- > Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html >

April 7, 2020

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] Cover for PBE8

by Torsten Bergmann

April 7, 2020

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] Cover for PBE8

by ducasse

> On 7 Apr 2020, at 14:31, CÃ©drick BÃ©ler <cdrick65(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Just a try. > > I searched for free picture around the words lighthouse and/or (mosaic patchwork painterâ¦). > A bit like this one (which is not free). > <GraphiqueCollÃ©-4.png> > > > Also, I kind of like the spiral effect which evoke practicing the internalâ¦ and the spiral effet (learning/getting better). > https://www.flickr.com/photos/28752865@N08/19369475232 <https://www.flickr.com/photos/28752865@N08/19369475232> > > There are some other free and available. This one is Creative Commons: > https://www.flickr.com/photos/kaptainkobold/6699472801 <https://www.flickr.com/photos/kaptainkobold/6699472801> > <GraphiqueCollÃ©-2.png> > => google image searches <https://www.google.com/search?q=lighthouse+inside+stairs&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUK…> on Â« free Â» internal stairs. > > > I also searched for Â« lighthouse anatomy / internals Â». Itâs nice but donât think usable out of the box. It should be stylized (and eventually adapted to programming internals). > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Antique_-_Maniguin_Lighthouse_-_Ori… <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Antique_-_Maniguin_Lighthouse_-_Ori…>. Section_of_new_Eddystone_Lighthouse.jpg <https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/74/Section_of_new_Eddyston…>. > > > My 2 cents, > CÃ©drick (preference for the spiral effect)I I Me too. >

April 7, 2020

Can't able to understand the code

by shawon58

I try to run the code which attached below. But i dont have idea what i need to write on playground to run the code. can anyone explain what happen actually using this class>>primImage: aFormat width: aWidth height:aHeight <http://forum.world.st/file/t372453/prob.png> -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html

April 7, 2020

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] Cover for PBE8

by ducasse

Thanks for the ideas! > On 7 Apr 2020, at 14:31, CÃ©drick BÃ©ler <cdrick65(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Just a try. > > I searched for free picture around the words lighthouse and/or (mosaic patchwork painterâ¦). > A bit like this one (which is not free). > <GraphiqueCollÃ©-4.png> > > > Also, I kind of like the spiral effect which evoke practicing the internalâ¦ and the spiral effet (learning/getting better). > https://www.flickr.com/photos/28752865@N08/19369475232 <https://www.flickr.com/photos/28752865@N08/19369475232> > > There are some other free and available. This one is Creative Commons: > https://www.flickr.com/photos/kaptainkobold/6699472801 <https://www.flickr.com/photos/kaptainkobold/6699472801> > <GraphiqueCollÃ©-2.png> > => google image searches <https://www.google.com/search?q=lighthouse+inside+stairs&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUK…> on Â« free Â» internal stairs. > > > I also searched for Â« lighthouse anatomy / internals Â». Itâs nice but donât think usable out of the box. It should be stylized (and eventually adapted to programming internals). > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Antique_-_Maniguin_Lighthouse_-_Ori… <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Antique_-_Maniguin_Lighthouse_-_Ori…>. Section_of_new_Eddystone_Lighthouse.jpg <https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/74/Section_of_new_Eddyston…>. > > > My 2 cents, > CÃ©drick (preference for the spiral effect) >

April 7, 2020

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] Cover for PBE8

by CÃ©drick BÃ©ler

> > CÃ©drick (preference for the spiral effect) I like the white one on the left. https://www.needpix.com/photo/download/161682/staircase-snail-lighthouse-fr… <https://www.needpix.com/photo/download/161682/staircase-snail-lighthouse-fr…> Connot find the Â« real Â» licence (it's free to download). Cheers, CÃ©drick

April 7, 2020

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] Cover for PBE8

by Torsten Bergmann

April 7, 2020

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] Cover for PBE8

by CÃ©drick BÃ©ler

Just a try. I searched for free picture around the words lighthouse and/or (mosaic patchwork painterâ¦). A bit like this one (which is not free). Also, I kind of like the spiral effect which evoke practicing the internalâ¦ and the spiral effet (learning/getting better). https://www.flickr.com/photos/28752865@N08/19369475232 <https://www.flickr.com/photos/28752865@N08/19369475232> There are some other free and available. This one is Creative Commons: https://www.flickr.com/photos/kaptainkobold/6699472801 <https://www.flickr.com/photos/kaptainkobold/6699472801> => google image searches <https://www.google.com/search?q=lighthouse+inside+stairs&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUK…> on Â« free Â» internal stairs. I also searched for Â« lighthouse anatomy / internals Â». Itâs nice but donât think usable out of the box. It should be stylized (and eventually adapted to programming internals). https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Antique_-_Maniguin_Lighthouse_-_Ori… <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Antique_-_Maniguin_Lighthouse_-_Ori…>. Section_of_new_Eddystone_Lighthouse.jpg <https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/74/Section_of_new_Eddyston…>. My 2 cents, CÃ©drick (preference for the spiral effect)

April 7, 2020

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] Cover for PBE8

by ducasse

On the same theme you could use this one > On 7 Apr 2020, at 13:16, Tim Mackinnon <tim(a)testit.works> wrote: > > Not an artist, and shamefully ripping off Nicolas, but how about something future lookingâ¦ > > <PastedGraphic-20.tiff> > >> On 7 Apr 2020, at 11:21, Nicolas Anquetil <nicolas.anquetil(a)inria.fr <mailto:nicolas.anquetil@inria.fr>> wrote: >> >> >> :-) >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, 2020-04-07 at 09:45 +0200, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >>> Hello >>> >>> We are working on PBE80 and we are looking for a new cool cover. >>> If you think that you can do this we are all ears. >>> >>> S >>> -------------------------------------------- >>> StÃ©phane Ducasse >>> http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr <http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr/> / http://www.pharo.org <http://www.pharo.org/> >>> 03 59 35 87 52 >>> Assistant: Julie Jonas >>> FAX 03 59 57 78 50 >>> TEL 03 59 35 86 16 >>> S. Ducasse - Inria >>> 40, avenue Halley, >>> Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, BÃ¢t.A, Park Plaza >>> Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650 >>> France >>> >> -- >> Nicolas Anquetil >> RMod team -- Inria Lille >> <pbe.png> >

April 7, 2020