December 2020 - Pharo-users

Re: Pharo Mars still not working on Ubuntu

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

> On 10 Dec 2020, at 14:34, yvan Godin <yvan.godin(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > hello > > I have re installed an strictly follow everything as described in gtk-bind > <https://github.com/pharo-spec/gtk-bindings> / (I don't care of Mars but > interested by Spec2 and/or Gtk)/ > > the run of demo hard crash as previously > > I have tried to upload the file here but no sure to well understand how > this list work > crash.txt <http://forum.world.st/file/t372931/crash.txt> Thanks for the report. > > thanks everybody > > /by the side a curious behavior to this mailing list requiring again to me > to subscribe again / Yes this is strange. Esteban was also removed and we do not know why. > > > > > > -- > Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html -------------------------------------------- StÃ©phane Ducasse http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr / http://www.pharo.org 03 59 35 87 52 Assistant: Aurore Dalle FAX 03 59 57 78 50 TEL 03 59 35 86 16 S. Ducasse - Inria 40, avenue Halley, Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, BÃ¢t.A, Park Plaza Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650 France

Dec. 10, 2020

Trouble with checking out from Github

by Petter

Hi, I have three computers and two of these, one Linux and one Mac works excellent with Iceberg. But I have a difficult child, one laptop where I can not checkout code from a private github repo. It keeps running into stacktrace, nomatter which strategy I select. Problems does not seem to be connected to versions. I have tried different versions of Pharo images, from 8-stable to 9-bleeding edge. I have ticked the ssh-setting in Pharo for using custom keys and verified that these exists and has right permissions. Checkout from ssh in shell works fine. I have tried these strategies. 1) Using the add-key trick which is referred as a solution on this, like in ssh-add ~/.ssh/id_rsa This always results in stacktrace in Pharo. 2) Checking out as as github-repo with ssh, same problem 3) Checking out as a git-repo, same problem 4) Generated new ssh-keys and tried to setup these as the default keys Same stack trace problem in Pharo. 5) Checking out over https This does not work either. The ssh-checkout box appears in Pharo even though I select this specifically. Checking out over https-does not seem to be working at all? Version on ssh on my laptop is: ssh: OpenSSH_8.1p1, LibreSSL 2.7.3 mac: Catalina 10.15.6 Interesting enough I have the same versions on my working mac. Only difference is that the default ssh-key is with a passphrase on the non-working computer (entering this in the ssh does not help, creating a new ssh-keypair without a passphrase does not make a difference either). ssh_config is also equal on the two computers. Has anybody solved a case like this or has any clues? This beats me :) And when Iceberg is up and running I must say it is really a valuable and nice tool, thx! Petter -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html

Dec. 10, 2020

Re: Pharo Mars still not working on Ubuntu

by yvan Godin

hello I have re installed an strictly follow everything as described in gtk-bind <https://github.com/pharo-spec/gtk-bindings> / (I don't care of Mars but interested by Spec2 and/or Gtk)/ the run of demo hard crash as previously I have tried to upload the file here but no sure to well understand how this list work crash.txt <http://forum.world.st/file/t372931/crash.txt> thanks everybody /by the side a curious behavior to this mailing list requiring again to me to subscribe again / -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html

Dec. 10, 2020

Re: Pharo Mars still not working on Ubuntu

by kmo

The Mars project page says use this image and vm: curl https://get.pharo.org/64/90+vmHeadlessLatest | bash To upload the crash.dmp file to the issue log you need to rename it to crash.txt first. Good luck. -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html

Dec. 10, 2020

Re: Pharo Mars still not working on Ubuntu

by yvan.godin＠gmail.com

first of all thanks for all answers I will re instal a full fresh Pharo9 a test again but 2 questions prefered VM to use ? Stable Lastest Threaded ? How to send big file crash ? cheers NB I am retired coder with some middle level with gtk on other language but difficult to me to change my old brain model to connect with Pharo one with so many classes and method even if I have tried some mooc ;-)

Dec. 10, 2020

Re: Pharo Mars still not working on Ubuntu

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Thanks for the information. S > On 9 Dec 2020, at 18:20, G B via Pharo-users <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> wrote: > > I am using OpenSUSE Leap and the above code for "Hello" using GTK-binding works for me. > > On Wednesday, December 9, 2020, 8:30:29 AM CST, yvan Godin <yvan.godin(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > in reality posted my answer on a wrong list probably > totally new to Pharo and Smaltalk I wanted just try so this is not important > > I wanted to test Gtk-binding. <https://github.com/pharo-spec/gtk-bindings <https://github.com/pharo-spec/gtk-bindings>> > because I am interested by Gtk but not for specific project so no problem I > can wait. > > Load fine but the demo code provided on github hard crash the image with > big crash dump > ``` > GtkApplication ensureRunning. > GtkRunLoop defer: [ > GtkWindow new > title: 'Gtk3 Window'; > add: (GtkBox newVertical > packStart: (GtkLabel newLabel: 'Hello!'); > yourself); > showAll ] > ``` > > for the sound I have try to add sdl2 and alsa lib and some libsound but > without success. One more time this is not essential but sad. Very long time > ago I have try Squeak and sound was working. > > > > > > > -- > Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html <http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html> -------------------------------------------- StÃ©phane Ducasse http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr / http://www.pharo.org 03 59 35 87 52 Assistant: Aurore Dalle FAX 03 59 57 78 50 TEL 03 59 35 86 16 S. Ducasse - Inria 40, avenue Halley, Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, BÃ¢t.A, Park Plaza Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650 France

Dec. 10, 2020

Re: Pharo Mars still not working on Ubuntu

by G B

I am using OpenSUSE Leap and the above code for "Hello" using GTK-binding works for me. On Wednesday, December 9, 2020, 8:30:29 AM CST, yvan Godin <yvan.godin(a)gmail.com> wrote: in reality posted my answer on a wrong list probablyÂ Â totally new to Pharo and Smaltalk I wanted just try so this is not importantÂ Â Â I wanted to testÂ Gtk-binding. <https://github.com/pharo-spec/gtk-bindings>Â because I am interested by Gtk but not for specific project so no problem I can wait.Â Â Load fine but the demo code provided on githubÂ hard crash the image with big crash dump ```Â Â Â Â GtkApplication ensureRunning. Â Â GtkRunLoop defer: [ Â Â Â Â Â GtkWindow new Â Â Â Â Â Â title: 'Gtk3 Window'; Â Â Â Â Â Â add: (GtkBox newVertical Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â packStart: (GtkLabel newLabel: 'Hello!'); Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â yourself); Â Â Â Â Â Â showAll ] ``` for the sound I have try to add sdl2 and alsa lib and some libsound but without success. One more time this is not essential but sad. Very long time ago I have try Squeak and sound was working. -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html

Dec. 9, 2020

Re: Pharo Mars still not working on Ubuntu

by Guillermo Polito

Hi Ivan, just to complement Esteban. When there is a process crash, it usually writes a crash dump file in the working directory. Could you share yours? The crash dump file will have information about the stack and state at the moment of the crash. It will also be useful to know what linux version you are on, and what specific version of gtk you have installed. All these could help in reproducing the problem and ultimately fix it. Cheers, Guille El miÃ©., 9 dic. 2020 17:49, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> escribiÃ³: > Here is the answer of esteban > > Hi, > > For some reason, it looks like I am no longer part of that list (how weird > is that?), and I cannot re-subscribe me either (I asked Marcus to see what > happens). > Anyway, can you be be more explicit, because I just tested in an Ubuntu > 20.04 and it works fine (also, I use a Manjaro everyday and it works too). > > Esteban > > > > S > > > On 9 Dec 2020, at 15:30, yvan Godin <yvan.godin(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > in reality posted my answer on a wrong list probably > totally new to Pharo and Smaltalk I wanted just try so this is not > important > > I wanted to test Gtk-binding. <https://github.com/pharo-spec/gtk-bindings> > > because I am interested by Gtk but not for specific project so no problem I > can wait. > > Load fine but the demo code provided on github hard crash the image with > big crash dump > ``` > GtkApplication ensureRunning. > GtkRunLoop defer: [ > GtkWindow new > title: 'Gtk3 Window'; > add: (GtkBox newVertical > packStart: (GtkLabel newLabel: 'Hello!'); > yourself); > showAll ] > ``` > > for the sound I have try to add sdl2 and alsa lib and some libsound but > without success. One more time this is not essential but sad. Very long > time > ago I have try Squeak and sound was working. > > > > > > -- > Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html > > > -------------------------------------------- > StÃ©phane Ducasse > http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr / http://www.pharo.org > 03 59 35 87 52 > Assistant: Aurore Dalle > FAX 03 59 57 78 50 > TEL 03 59 35 86 16 > S. Ducasse - Inria > 40, avenue Halley, > Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, BÃ¢t.A, Park Plaza > Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650 > France > >

Dec. 9, 2020

Re: Pharo Mars still not working on Ubuntu

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Here is the answer of esteban Hi, For some reason, it looks like I am no longer part of that list (how weird is that?), and I cannot re-subscribe me either (I asked Marcus to see what happens). Anyway, can you be be more explicit, because I just tested in an Ubuntu 20.04 and it works fine (also, I use a Manjaro everyday and it works too). Esteban S > On 9 Dec 2020, at 15:30, yvan Godin <yvan.godin(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > in reality posted my answer on a wrong list probably > totally new to Pharo and Smaltalk I wanted just try so this is not important > > I wanted to test Gtk-binding. <https://github.com/pharo-spec/gtk-bindings> > because I am interested by Gtk but not for specific project so no problem I > can wait. > > Load fine but the demo code provided on github hard crash the image with > big crash dump > ``` > GtkApplication ensureRunning. > GtkRunLoop defer: [ > GtkWindow new > title: 'Gtk3 Window'; > add: (GtkBox newVertical > packStart: (GtkLabel newLabel: 'Hello!'); > yourself); > showAll ] > ``` > > for the sound I have try to add sdl2 and alsa lib and some libsound but > without success. One more time this is not essential but sad. Very long time > ago I have try Squeak and sound was working. > > > > > > -- > Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html -------------------------------------------- StÃ©phane Ducasse http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr / http://www.pharo.org 03 59 35 87 52 Assistant: Aurore Dalle FAX 03 59 57 78 50 TEL 03 59 35 86 16 S. Ducasse - Inria 40, avenue Halley, Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, BÃ¢t.A, Park Plaza Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650 France

Dec. 9, 2020

Re: Pharo Mars still not working on Ubuntu

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

> On 9 Dec 2020, at 15:30, yvan Godin <yvan.godin(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > in reality posted my answer on a wrong list probably > totally new to Pharo and Smaltalk I wanted just try so this is not important No there is no problem. Sound is really not good :). There is no problem with that. Now we are concern with linux support and as you can see in the attached file there is no a single OS but several and this is a large task because in addition we have the new architecture coming. > I wanted to test Gtk-binding. <https://github.com/pharo-spec/gtk-bindings> > because I am interested by Gtk but not for specific project so no problem I > can wait. Esteban is making it work and some companies too but I do not think that this is ready for public consumption. > Load fine but the demo code provided on github hard crash the image with > big crash dump > ``` > GtkApplication ensureRunning. > GtkRunLoop defer: [ > GtkWindow new > title: 'Gtk3 Window'; > add: (GtkBox newVertical > packStart: (GtkLabel newLabel: 'Hello!'); > yourself); > showAll ] > ``` I will report this to esteban > for the sound I have try to add sdl2 and alsa lib and some libsound but > without success. One more time this is not essential but sad. Very long time > ago I have try Squeak and sound was working. Yes but all the library on the C level are obsolete. Can you post what you did so that we can ask ronie to see what he did for the sound. > > > > > > -- > Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html -------------------------------------------- StÃ©phane Ducasse http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr / http://www.pharo.org 03 59 35 87 52 Assistant: Aurore Dalle FAX 03 59 57 78 50 TEL 03 59 35 86 16 S. Ducasse - Inria 40, avenue Halley, Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, BÃ¢t.A, Park Plaza Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650 France

Dec. 9, 2020