September 2019 - Pharo-users

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Pharo Headless - Beta (Actually what is between Alpha and Beta)

by Ben Coman

On Mon, 12 Aug 2019 at 17:59, tesonep(a)gmail.com <tesonep(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > the repos is https://github.com/pharo-project/opensmalltalk-vm in > the headless branch > btw, to go directly to that branch... https://github.com/pharo-project/opensmalltalk-vm/tree/headless I'm really glad to see smalltalksrc on github for its accessibility. The concern then is synchronization with the original Monticello repo. Could a branch "headless-tracking-vmmaker" be created as a pure-mirror updated by a daily CI job so Github Compare View can be used to easily see differences ( https://github.blog/2010-03-01-introducing-github-compare-view/) This would make it easier for anyone to experiment locally merging in vmmaker updates without needing access to the particular conversion-tool being used. That is, it would fan out better to potential contributors. It might be useful to similarly have an independent "headless-tracking-extracted". How is the extraction currently being done? Is it a script being run adhoc by particular people or is it run by a CI job? Again it would fan out better to potential contributors to not need access to the extraction script. cheers -ben

Sept. 5, 2019

Re: [Pharo-users] Ssilence does not mean agreement

by Richard O'Keefe

I refrain from expressing an opinion about any kind of weapon here. I would hope that in a civilised society anyone could casually mention any legal activity they engage in without being subjected to harassment. For what it's worth, I have created a GitHub site for my Smalltalk system, but there's nothing there because my attempt to upload failed. I don't yet know why. When I succeed I'll mention it; it's all open source and anyone will be welcome to use any part of it. On Thu, 5 Sep 2019 at 06:29, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: > > > > On 4 Sep 2019, at 20:14, Herby VojÄÃk <herby(a)mailbox.sk> wrote: > > > > On 4. 9. 2019 20:10, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > >> If nobody talks casually about guns as if they are a normal part of > life on this list I will have no problem doing so. > > OK, that was mean to go off list, sorry about that. I did not want to > continue this thread publicly. > > > Get over your compulsion. If unable yourself, seek medical help. > > This is a silly thing to say, sorry. > > > Herby > > > >> Sven > > >

Sept. 5, 2019

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo Branding Organization on GitHub

by ducasse

thanks for the initiative. I think that we have more material around, like alternate logo. It would be nice to collect also the svg versions? I know that lusy did also design for mugs. > On 4 Sep 2019, at 17:25, Torsten Bergmann <astares(a)gmx.de> wrote: > > Hi, > > the Pharo community is growing and our lovely Pharo system is an innovation driver with cool tools and projects > but it is also used in real projects in research and business setups. > > There are still many entries left on all our TODO lists - not only in shaping the next stable Pharo release(s) > but also in bringing more attention to people about what Pharo is all about. > > A few of us already follow a well know marketing phrase: âDo good and talk about it!â as some report about Pharo news > in BLOGS, on TWITTER or by writing articles on MEDIUM.com or even books. I also like that we have a growing number > of YOUTUBE videos about Pharo. We also have a regular Newsletter - even a Facebook page, ... > > This gives visibility to Pharo activities and is already a good step in doing some advertising. > > An additional important lesson in successful marketing is that one has to give a homogenous "Brand Identity" to a project or product > to be easily recognizable and rememberable over time. We already have the nice lighthouse and use it all over - but often it > is hard to find the logo or other marketing material in correct size or correct graphics format. We should improve on that side > too. > > As we work mostly with git I therefore now have setup a new organization "pharo-brand": > > https://github.com/pharo-brand > > that should give easy access and group existing branding material in one place. > > The site now already includes the following three projects: > > 1. pharo-brand-material > > This should be the place for "logo" and "logo-flat". In the subdirectories you will find the logo in three different > variations: > > - logo composed of text + icon + beacon > - logo composed of icon + beacon > - logo beacon only > > including subdirectories for "vector" (like SVG, PDF) and "screen" formats (like PNG, BMP, ...) > > 2. pharo-github-images > > These are the Icons i created for the various github organizations like > > - https://github.com/pharo-project > - https://github.com/pharo-nosql > - https://github.com/pharo-rdbms > - https://github.com/pharo-contributions > - https://github.com/pharo-brand > > and a template for additional ones > > 3. pharo-jingle > > A jingle is a short song or tune used in advertising. Jingles are a form of sound and or video branding - when you see it often > as an intro or outro you will more easily remember the brand name (Pharo in this case). > > This repository includes a "Pharo jingle" that can be used as a start or end section within own custom videos about Pharo and > related projects. > > The short video jingle was created using a free video software called OpenShot using a sound jingle from freesound.org > > - Pharo_HDV720_24p_1280x720.mp4 > - Pharo_HDV1080_25p_1920x1080.mp4 > - Pharo_HDV1440_25p_1440x1080.mp4 > > Note that the jingle is currently a proposal - if you have better ones we can discuss it within the community on the mailinglist. > > > I hope the repos will improve a little bit the situation in finding and organizing the brand material. > Feel free to comment and give feedback or even add marketing material (templates, icons or other) yourself to the repos. > > Thanks > T. >

Sept. 4, 2019

Re: [Pharo-users] Ssilence does not mean agreement

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

> On 4 Sep 2019, at 20:14, Herby VojÄÃk <herby(a)mailbox.sk> wrote: > > On 4. 9. 2019 20:10, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: >> If nobody talks casually about guns as if they are a normal part of life on this list I will have no problem doing so. OK, that was mean to go off list, sorry about that. I did not want to continue this thread publicly. > Get over your compulsion. If unable yourself, seek medical help. This is a silly thing to say, sorry. > Herby > >> Sven

Sept. 4, 2019

Re: [Pharo-users] Ssilence does not mean agreement

by Herby VojÄÃk

On 4. 9. 2019 20:10, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > If nobody talks casually about guns as if they are a normal part of life on this list I will have no problem doing so. You are not director here. Get over your compulsion. If unable yourself, seek medical help. Herby > Sven

Sept. 4, 2019

Re: [Pharo-users] Ssilence does not mean agreement

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

James, OFF LIST > On 4 Sep 2019, at 19:50, James Foster <Smalltalk(a)JGFoster.net> wrote: > > >> On Sep 4, 2019, at 10:22 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: >> I felt compelled to react since not doing so would mean I silently agree. > > Please try to get over your compulsion. If nobody talks casually about guns as if they are a normal part of life on this list I will have no problem doing so. Sven

Sept. 4, 2019

Re: [Pharo-users] Ssilence does not mean agreement

by James Foster

> On Sep 4, 2019, at 10:22 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: > I felt compelled to react since not doing so would mean I silently agree. Please try to get over your compulsion.

Sept. 4, 2019

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] Pharo Branding Organization on GitHub

by Julien

Nice initiative Torsten! Cheers, Julien --- Julien Delplanque Doctorant Ã lâUniversitÃ© de Lille http://juliendelplanque.be/phd.html Equipe Rmod, Inria BÃ¢timent B 40, Avenue Halley 59650 Villeneuve d'Ascq NumÃ©ro de tÃ©lÃ©phone: +333 59 35 86 40 > Le 4 sept. 2019 Ã 17:25, Torsten Bergmann <astares(a)gmx.de> a Ã©crit : > > Hi, > > the Pharo community is growing and our lovely Pharo system is an innovation driver with cool tools and projects > but it is also used in real projects in research and business setups. > > There are still many entries left on all our TODO lists - not only in shaping the next stable Pharo release(s) > but also in bringing more attention to people about what Pharo is all about. > > A few of us already follow a well know marketing phrase: âDo good and talk about it!â as some report about Pharo news > in BLOGS, on TWITTER or by writing articles on MEDIUM.com or even books. I also like that we have a growing number > of YOUTUBE videos about Pharo. We also have a regular Newsletter - even a Facebook page, ... > > This gives visibility to Pharo activities and is already a good step in doing some advertising. > > An additional important lesson in successful marketing is that one has to give a homogenous "Brand Identity" to a project or product > to be easily recognizable and rememberable over time. We already have the nice lighthouse and use it all over - but often it > is hard to find the logo or other marketing material in correct size or correct graphics format. We should improve on that side > too. > > As we work mostly with git I therefore now have setup a new organization "pharo-brand": > > https://github.com/pharo-brand > > that should give easy access and group existing branding material in one place. > > The site now already includes the following three projects: > > 1. pharo-brand-material > > This should be the place for "logo" and "logo-flat". In the subdirectories you will find the logo in three different > variations: > > - logo composed of text + icon + beacon > - logo composed of icon + beacon > - logo beacon only > > including subdirectories for "vector" (like SVG, PDF) and "screen" formats (like PNG, BMP, ...) > > 2. pharo-github-images > > These are the Icons i created for the various github organizations like > > - https://github.com/pharo-project > - https://github.com/pharo-nosql > - https://github.com/pharo-rdbms > - https://github.com/pharo-contributions > - https://github.com/pharo-brand > > and a template for additional ones > > 3. pharo-jingle > > A jingle is a short song or tune used in advertising. Jingles are a form of sound and or video branding - when you see it often > as an intro or outro you will more easily remember the brand name (Pharo in this case). > > This repository includes a "Pharo jingle" that can be used as a start or end section within own custom videos about Pharo and > related projects. > > The short video jingle was created using a free video software called OpenShot using a sound jingle from freesound.org > > - Pharo_HDV720_24p_1280x720.mp4 > - Pharo_HDV1080_25p_1920x1080.mp4 > - Pharo_HDV1440_25p_1440x1080.mp4 > > Note that the jingle is currently a proposal - if you have better ones we can discuss it within the community on the mailinglist. > > > I hope the repos will improve a little bit the situation in finding and organizing the brand material. > Feel free to comment and give feedback or even add marketing material (templates, icons or other) yourself to the repos. > > Thanks > T. >

Sept. 4, 2019

Re: [Pharo-users] SequenceableCollection>>#allButFirst: inconsistence across subclasses

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

> On 4 Sep 2019, at 17:12, lesage yann <yannlesag(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi, > Can you open an another thread to talk about guns and stay on inconsistency issue here ? > Thanks You are right and I am sorry, the Pharo mailing lists should only be used for technical and community discussions. It was a catch 22 however: I felt compelled to react since not doing so would mean I silently agree (with talking casually about guns and doing so here). > Le mer. 4 sept. 2019 Ã 16:37, Guillermo Polito <guillermopolito(a)gmail.com> a Ã©crit : > > > > El 4 sept 2019, a las 10:41, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> escribiÃ³: > > > > John, > > > >> On 4 Sep 2019, at 04:25, John Pfersich <jpfersich(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> and gun habits. > > > > Please stop normalising guns with such casual remarks. > > Guns have no place in modern society. > > +1000 > > Thanks Sven > > > > > Thx, > > > > Sven > > > >

Sept. 4, 2019

Re: [Pharo-users] SequenceableCollection>>#allButFirst: inconsistence across subclasses

by Sean P. DeNigris

YannLesage wrote > Can you open an another thread to talk about guns and stay on > inconsistency > issue here ? I fear better yet keep emotional non-programming-related issues elsewhere entirely. Nothing can be accomplished here except to weaken and distract our community. ----- Cheers, Sean -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html

Sept. 4, 2019