March 2019 - Pharo-users - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-users] Parsing text to discover general data of interest (phone, email, address, ...)

by CÃ©drick BÃ©ler

> > > Cedrick > > Sorry for not answering sooner. Do not worry, this is because I hadenât properly searched before answering. > You have probably found what you want. Not yet. Loading. > I meant that âisland + seaâ is now a standard pattern. Follow the link to the tutorial from the readme you referenced â the example of javascript in HTML might carry over well enough to your situation. Perfect, Thanks again, CÃ©drick > > Peter > > From: Pharo-users <pharo-users-bounces(a)lists.pharo.org> On Behalf Of CÃ©drick BÃ©ler > Sent: 07 March 2019 11:20 > To: Any question about pharo is welcome <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> > Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] Parsing text to discover general data of interest (phone, email, address, ...) > > > > >> >> When you say "unstructured material ... is now a standard pattern in PetitParser Â», how could I begin exploring that ? Any tutorials ? > > Iâll load it and play around. > https://github.com/kursjan/petitparser2/blob/master/README.md <https://github.com/kursjan/petitparser2/blob/master/README.md>

March 7, 2019

Re: [Pharo-users] Parsing text to discover general data of interest (phone, email, address, ...)

by PBKResearch

Cedrick Sorry for not answering sooner. You have probably found what you want. I meant that âisland + seaâ is now a standard pattern. Follow the link to the tutorial from the readme you referenced â the example of javascript in HTML might carry over well enough to your situation. Peter From: Pharo-users <pharo-users-bounces(a)lists.pharo.org> On Behalf Of CÃ©drick BÃ©ler Sent: 07 March 2019 11:20 To: Any question about pharo is welcome <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] Parsing text to discover general data of interest (phone, email, address, ...) When you say "unstructured material ... is now a standard pattern in PetitParser Â», how could I begin exploring that ? Any tutorials ? Iâll load it and play around. https://github.com/kursjan/petitparser2/blob/master/README.md

March 7, 2019

Re: [Pharo-users] Parsing text to discover general data of interest (phone, email, address, ...)

by CÃ©drick BÃ©ler

> > When you say "unstructured material ... is now a standard pattern in PetitParser Â», how could I begin exploring that ? Any tutorials ? Iâll load it and play around. https://github.com/kursjan/petitparser2/blob/master/README.md

March 7, 2019

Re: [Pharo-users] Parsing text to discover general data of interest (phone, email, address, ...)

by CÃ©drick BÃ©ler

> >> This also assumes that the items of interest are really structured; there could be many ways of writing phone numbers, for instance. > > Phone numbers are actually not easyâ¦ I see them as a limited sequence of number (if not well structure) + eventually the +contrycode). > Iâd like fuzzy structuration actually, but would be perfectly ok with an initial crisp one. > Yes and event are even worse (indeed Apple fails quite often to detect them in the right way). Event is a composition of date, time, place, â¦ But again, Iâll start slowly by emails (easy this one) and names of person (with eventual search if typo - leveinstein like distance)... Cheers, CÃ©drick

March 7, 2019

Re: [Pharo-users] Parsing text to discover general data of interest (phone, email, address, ...)

by CÃ©drick BÃ©ler

> > > CÃ©drick > > In principle, what you are asking for is to identify 'islands' of structured information in a 'sea' of otherwise unstructured material, which is now a standard pattern in PetitParser. Exactly :) > You could imagine a parser spec of the form: > > (sea optional, (email/phone/address/....), sea optional) plus > > Where email etc are parsers for the individual structures. As a parser this would probably lead to lots of backtracking and be hideously inefficient, but for a short text like an e-mail it could be usable. Yes this is only for shot text like email or say a text selection + shortcut. > This also assumes that the items of interest are really structured; there could be many ways of writing phone numbers, for instance. Phone numbers are actually not easyâ¦ I see them as a limited sequence of number (if not well structure) + eventually the +contrycode). Iâd like fuzzy structuration actually, but would be perfectly ok with an initial crisp one. I find this is a nice pet project to dive into PetitParser. When you say "unstructured material ... is now a standard pattern in PetitParser Â», how could I begin exploring that ? Any tutorials ? Thanks Peter, CÃ©drick > > HTH > > Peter Kenny > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pharo-users <pharo-users-bounces(a)lists.pharo.org> On Behalf Of CÃ©drick BÃ©ler > Sent: 07 March 2019 09:52 > To: Any question about pharo is welcome <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> > Cc: Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> > Subject: [Pharo-users] Parsing text to discover general data of interest (phone, email, address, ...) > > Hi all, > > Iâve often got the need to analyse some random unstructured text to discover (structured) information (in email for instance), to extract : > - emails > - telephone numbers > - addresses > - events > - person names (according to a list of known persons), > - etcâ¦ > > Apple do it in email for instance (strangely, this is not generalized). > > > So my questions are : > - do we have something equivalent in Smalltalk/Pharo ? (I didnât find) > - if not, what strategy would you use ? > => I do really stupid text analysis (substrings, finding @, â¦, parsing according to the text structure when there isâ¦ kind of Soup parsingâ¦) => I feel this is a job for PetitParser ? And would be a nice feet to the new GToolkit. > > All ideas or suggestions are welcome ;-) > > > TIA, > > CÃ©drick > > > >

March 7, 2019

Re: [Pharo-users] Parsing text to discover general data of interest (phone, email, address, ...)

by PBKResearch

CÃ©drick In principle, what you are asking for is to identify 'islands' of structured information in a 'sea' of otherwise unstructured material, which is now a standard pattern in PetitParser. You could imagine a parser spec of the form: (sea optional, (email/phone/address/....), sea optional) plus Where email etc are parsers for the individual structures. As a parser this would probably lead to lots of backtracking and be hideously inefficient, but for a short text like an e-mail it could be usable. This also assumes that the items of interest are really structured; there could be many ways of writing phone numbers, for instance. HTH Peter Kenny -----Original Message----- From: Pharo-users <pharo-users-bounces(a)lists.pharo.org> On Behalf Of CÃ©drick BÃ©ler Sent: 07 March 2019 09:52 To: Any question about pharo is welcome <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> Cc: Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> Subject: [Pharo-users] Parsing text to discover general data of interest (phone, email, address, ...) Hi all, Iâve often got the need to analyse some random unstructured text to discover (structured) information (in email for instance), to extract : - emails - telephone numbers - addresses - events - person names (according to a list of known persons), - etcâ¦ Apple do it in email for instance (strangely, this is not generalized). So my questions are : - do we have something equivalent in Smalltalk/Pharo ? (I didnât find) - if not, what strategy would you use ? => I do really stupid text analysis (substrings, finding @, â¦, parsing according to the text structure when there isâ¦ kind of Soup parsingâ¦) => I feel this is a job for PetitParser ? And would be a nice feet to the new GToolkit. All ideas or suggestions are welcome ;-) TIA, CÃ©drick

March 7, 2019

Re: [Pharo-users] IMAP in Pharo

by Tim Mackinnon

> On 7 Mar 2019, at 09:37, CÃ©drick BÃ©ler <cdrick65(a)gmail.com <mailto:cdrick65@gmail.com>> wrote: > > I think maybe what we miss would be a tutorial and a sandbox project so people can play with (quite intimidating to do his first PR the wrong way). Actually - when you take a deep breathe and plunge in, its not too bad. The steps here (https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/wiki/Contribute-a-fix-to-Pharo <https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/wiki/Contribute-a-fix-to-Pharo>) are pretty good, the only caveat is you need to use a Pharo 8.0 image (not 7 like it says), as this makes it easier. I actually quite like the flow in Github for this kind of project, you can really see what is going on and also it gives you more widely applicable skills to boot. Highly encouraged. Tim

March 7, 2019

Re: [Pharo-users] Parsing text to discover general data of interest (phone, email, address, ...)

by Benoit St-Jean

Couldn't find anything in Smalltalk but that should you give ideas and inspire you or get you started... https://github.com/search?q=contact+scraping&type=Repositories I guess we have all that's needed in Pharo : parsers (HTML, XML, PetitParser), Soup & regex ! On 2019-03-07 04:52, CÃ©drick BÃ©ler wrote: > Hi all, > > Iâve often got the need to analyse some random unstructured text to discover (structured) information (in email for instance), to extract : > - emails > - telephone numbers > - addresses > - events > - person names (according to a list of known persons), > - etcâ¦ > > Apple do it in email for instance (strangely, this is not generalized). > > > So my questions are : > - do we have something equivalent in Smalltalk/Pharo ? (I didnât find) > - if not, what strategy would you use ? > => I do really stupid text analysis (substrings, finding @, â¦, parsing according to the text structure when there isâ¦ kind of Soup parsingâ¦) > => I feel this is a job for PetitParser ? And would be a nice feet to the new GToolkit. > > All ideas or suggestions are welcome ;-) > > > TIA, > > CÃ©drick > > > -- ----------------- BenoÃ®t St-Jean Yahoo! Messenger: bstjean Twitter: @BenLeChialeux Pinterest: benoitstjean Instagram: Chef_Benito IRC: lamneth Blogue: endormitoire.wordpress.com "A standpoint is an intellectual horizon of radius zero". (A. Einstein)

March 7, 2019

Loading Baseline from Smart HTTP git

by SebastiÃ¡n Filippini

Hi, My name is Sebastian and I'm new to Pharo and Smalltalk in general. I'm trying to load a baseline from a git server using Smart HTTP protocol. I'm using a self hosted git server with gitolite. I can clone the repository by http using: git clone http://user:password@host/repo-name. I've readed (https://github.com/pharo-open-documentation/pharo-wiki/blob/master/General/…) and I can't found info on how to use a git server other than gitlab and github. Is it possible to do this? (I don't need it now but I wonder if it is possible to use ssh git transport too.) Regards, Sebastian

March 7, 2019

Re: [Pharo-users] Why can't a Bag answer as a dictionary?

by CÃ©drick BÃ©ler

> > #(1 2 3) asDictionary > For this one, I would expect a dictionary with integer keys I see a dictionary as an indexed collection with key that are not only integer (like for an array). 1->1 2->2 3->3 I doubt this would be useful though. My 2 cents, CÃ©drick

March 7, 2019