March 2019 - Pharo-users - lists.pharo.org

Revisting: Spec - Tutorial Series

by Bahman Movaqar

Hi, I managed to update my tiny tutorial on Spec to Pharo 7.0. Can you folks please take a look and let me know if I'm doing something unidiomatic/wrong - it's been quite a while since I coded in Smalltalk? http://www.bahmanm.com/2013/11/spec-part-i-basics.html https://www.bahmanm.com/2013/11/spec-part-ii-layout.html Thanks in advance. Bahman

March 22, 2019

Re: [Pharo-users] Fw: Re: R: R: UDBC ODBC

by TomaÅ¾ Turk

Hi Pierce, >Glorp has a notion of database platforms, and currently there are >MySQLODBCPlatform, OracleODBCPlatform and SQLServerODBCPlatform. (I've >not used any of them so no comment on whether they are even functional >in Pharo 7 and whatever combination of OS/database product/versions.) >Pragmatically, what gets used gets supported. What database product are >you connecting to from which OSes? > I'm interested in connecting to SQL Server from Windows. I checked Glorp and as I understand a database platform includes platform specific elements like data types, specific SQL sentences and such, but for the connection you need a corresponding driver. Best wishes, Tomaz

March 22, 2019

Re: [Pharo-users] Fw: Re: R: R: UDBC ODBC

by Pierce Ng

On Fri, Mar 22, 2019 at 09:46:35AM +0000, TomaÅ¾ Turk wrote: > Do you possibly know (or anyone) if this implementation can be used together > with Glorp? Glorp has a notion of database platforms, and currently there are MySQLODBCPlatform, OracleODBCPlatform and SQLServerODBCPlatform. (I've not used any of them so no comment on whether they are even functional in Pharo 7 and whatever combination of OS/database product/versions.) > And more generally, are there any intentions and guidance in the > Pharo community of how to proceed toward a stronger support for database > connectivity - specifically, whether to put our efforts into Torsten's UDBC > ODBC or Diego's ODBC ... Pragmatically, what gets used gets supported. What database product are you connecting to from which OSes? Pierce

March 22, 2019

[ANN] Next Pharo Sprint: March 29

by Marcus Denker

We will organize a Pharo sprint / Moose dojo March 29, starting at 10:00am. (Local Time Paris). Goals of this sprint: - Pharo 7 backports, Pharo 8, - Check issues from old Issue tracker Remote Sprint: Remotely, you can join us on Discord. During the sprint, we synchronize local and remote Pharo sprinters: http://pharo.org/contribute-events We have added a (right now empty) Board to coordinate the work: https://github.com/orgs/pharo-project/projects/9 Known Local Sprint meetings Lille/France: It will be at the Inria Lille, Building B, third floor (RMoD offices). As the building is not open to the public, please contact us before if you plan to come

March 22, 2019

R: Fw: Re: R: R: UDBC ODBC

by Lorenzo Schiavina

Hi Tomaz, sorry, but I have not knowledge about your questions. I use ODBC because I have integrated an application written in Smalltalk/V (that has no connection to WEB) with some extensions into Pharo for WEB applications. So, it is easy to expand my local application into WEB, referencing to a single DB. Lorenzo Da: Pharo-users [mailto:pharo-users-bounces@lists.pharo.org] Per conto di TomaÅ¾ Turk Inviato: venerdÃ¬ 22 marzo 2019 10:47 A: Any question about pharo is welcome Oggetto: [Pharo-users] Fw: Re: R: R: UDBC ODBC Hi Lorenzo, thanks - I'll see what I can do over weekends, I'll have some regular time to seriously look into it in a couple of months. Do you possibly know (or anyone) if this implementation can be used together with Glorp? And more generally, are there any intentions and guidance in the Pharo community of how to proceed toward a stronger support for database connectivity - specifically, whether to put our efforts into Torsten's UDBC ODBC or Diego's ODBC ... Best wishes, Tomaz ------ Original Message ------ From: "Lorenzo Schiavina" <lorenzo(a)edor.it> To: "TomaÅ¾ Turk" <tomaz.turk(a)ef.uni-lj.si> Sent: 21. 03. 2019 15:40:35 Subject: R: R: [Pharo-users] UDBC ODBC Hi Tomaz, you are right; it does not work with Pharo 7 (I do not know why); I use it with Pharo 4. This one is a remake of Diego Gomez. I have the idea to port it to Pharo 7, but at present I have not time do it. Please, keep me informed if you port it in Pharo 7 or you are able to use it. At present, I find it quite good for may needs. Ciao Lorenzo

March 22, 2019

Fw: Re: R: R: UDBC ODBC

by TomaÅ¾ Turk

Hi Lorenzo, thanks - I'll see what I can do over weekends, I'll have some regular time to seriously look into it in a couple of months. Do you possibly know (or anyone) if this implementation can be used together with Glorp? And more generally, are there any intentions and guidance in the Pharo community of how to proceed toward a stronger support for database connectivity - specifically, whether to put our efforts into Torsten's UDBC ODBC or Diego's ODBC ... Best wishes, Tomaz ------ Original Message ------ From: "Lorenzo Schiavina" <lorenzo(a)edor.it> To: "TomaÅ¾ Turk" <tomaz.turk(a)ef.uni-lj.si> Sent: 21. 03. 2019 15:40:35 Subject: R: R: [Pharo-users] UDBC ODBC >Hi Tomaz, > > > >you are right; it does not work with Pharo 7 (I do not know why); I use >it with Pharo 4. > >This one is a remake of Diego Gomez. > >I have the idea to port it to Pharo 7, but at present I have not time >do it. > >Please, keep me informed if you port it in Pharo 7 or you are able to >use it. > >At present, I find it quite good for may needs. > > > >Ciao > > > >Lorenzo > > >

March 22, 2019

Re: [Pharo-users] R: UDBC ODBC

by TomaÅ¾ Turk

Thanks, Lorenzo - to which ODBC version are you referring? There are quite a lot of packages available, with something or other ending in an error message while loading into Pharo 7.0.2. Best wishes, Tomaz ------ Original Message ------ From: "Lorenzo Schiavina" <lorenzo(a)edor.it> To: "TomaÅ¾ Turk" <tomaz.turk(a)ef.uni-lj.si>; "Any question about pharo is welcome" <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> Sent: 20. 03. 2019 19:00:58 Subject: R: [Pharo-users] UDBC ODBC >Hi Tomaz, > > > >if you want an access to ODBC, in Pharo is available an ODBC version >quite good. > > > >Lorenzo > > > >Da: Pharo-users [mailto:pharo-users-bounces@lists.pharo.org] Per conto >di TomaÅ¾ Turk >Inviato: mercoledÃ¬ 20 marzo 2019 17:32 >A:pharo-users@lists.pharo.org >Oggetto: [Pharo-users] UDBC ODBC > > > >Hi everybody, > > > >I loaded the package https://github.com/astares/Pharo-UDBC and am >looking for some guidelines how to use it to access ODBC data sources, >if this functionality is already available. Can it be used together >with Glorp? I searched for the info on all the sites and Pharo books >that I know of, and googling doesn't help either - or maybe I'm too >clumsy. > > > >I appreciate any help. > > > >Tomaz >

March 21, 2019

Re: [Pharo-users] Test skip isn't working?

by Vitor Medina Cruz

I think that maybe a different visual indicator with a text hint saying that if you click you are force executing it. The way it is is inconsistent, IMHO. On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 6:09 PM Christopher Fuhrman < christopher.fuhrman(a)gmail.com> wrote: > What about: > > self skipOnClassRun: 'message'. > > ? > > On Mon, Mar 18, 2019, 15:53 Ben Coman <btc(a)openinworld.com> wrote: > >> This is a tough one to consider. Dennis's position seems very >> reasonable, but that Vitor got stuck is an indication of something missing. >> Just one other option occurs to me, that a notification pops up saying >> "force run skipped method", >> but I'm not even sure that would be beneficial. >> >> cheers -ben >> >> On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 at 22:21, Vitor Medina Cruz <vitormcruz(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> It is confusing because something unexpected and different from what is >>> explicitly said on code happens... I consider it an error. >>> >>> I think It should execute informing the test is skipped or don't provide >>> the click button at all. It took me a long time looking at skip >>> implementation and trying different stuff until I figure I hadn't done >>> anything wrong. >>> >>> On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 4:22 AM Denis Kudriashov <dionisiydk(a)gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I think it is a feature. When you click icon on a single test you >>>> explicitly raise a wish to run it. >>>> >>>> Ð¿Ð½, 18 Ð¼Ð°Ñ. 2019 Ð³., 1:26 Vitor Medina Cruz <vitormcruz(a)gmail.com>: >>>> >>>>> Skip only works when I run tests from class. If I click the test >>>>> button from the method skipped it don't work, maybe an error in calypso? >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 3:13 PM Vitor Medina Cruz < >>>>> vitormcruz(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hello, >>>>>> >>>>>> someTest >>>>>> self skip: 'some message'. >>>>>> >>>>>> rest of the test >>>>>> >>>>>> Rest of the test is being executed. There is a different woy of >>>>>> skipping tests? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> Vitor. >>>>>> >>>>>

March 21, 2019

R: UDBC ODBC

by Lorenzo Schiavina

Hi Tomaz, if you want an access to ODBC, in Pharo is available an ODBC version quite good. Lorenzo Da: Pharo-users [mailto:pharo-users-bounces@lists.pharo.org] Per conto di TomaÅ¾ Turk Inviato: mercoledÃ¬ 20 marzo 2019 17:32 A: pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org Oggetto: [Pharo-users] UDBC ODBC Hi everybody, I loaded the package https://github.com/astares/Pharo-UDBC and am looking for some guidelines how to use it to access ODBC data sources, if this functionality is already available. Can it be used together with Glorp? I searched for the info on all the sites and Pharo books that I know of, and googling doesn't help either - or maybe I'm too clumsy. I appreciate any help. Tomaz

March 20, 2019

UDBC ODBC

by TomaÅ¾ Turk

Hi everybody, I loaded the package https://github.com/astares/Pharo-UDBC and am looking for some guidelines how to use it to access ODBC data sources, if this functionality is already available. Can it be used together with Glorp? I searched for the info on all the sites and Pharo books that I know of, and googling doesn't help either - or maybe I'm too clumsy. I appreciate any help. Tomaz

March 20, 2019