February 2019 - Pharo-users

Re: [Pharo-users] Github pharo-* organizations

by Esteban Lorenzano

> On 5 Feb 2019, at 14:14, Ben Coman <btc(a)openinworld.com> wrote: > > > > On Tue, 5 Feb 2019 at 20:59, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com <mailto:estebanlm@gmail.com>> wrote: > > >> On 5 Feb 2019, at 13:49, Ben Coman <btc(a)openinworld.com <mailto:btc@openinworld.com>> wrote: >> >>> On 5 Feb 2019, at 02:42, Pierce Ng <pierce(a)samadhiweb.com <mailto:pierce@samadhiweb.com>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> Is there a definitive list of all the pharo-* organizations on GH? Like >>> pharo-rdbms, pharo-nosql, pharo-vcs, ... Or, a way to query GH to find out? >>> >>> Pierce >> >> On Tue, 5 Feb 2019 at 15:52, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com <mailto:estebanlm@gmail.com>> wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Naming the teams âpharo-somethingâ was kind of my idea to improve visibility of pharo. This has been followed by others which means we do not know all organisations nor all pharo contributions are made under a pharo-something team (in fact the less of them). >> >> We have in our TODO a new version of the catalog that will be âGitHub basedâ to group all projects. >> >> That would be very cool. Could that be something like a STON file people can text edit directly on github? > > Yes thatâs the idea: ston files and PRs! > > When you said "files" plural, my first reaction was that downloading multiple files might take > too long on poor connections, but then I realised you might download the list in > the form ```https://github.com/pharo-project/catalog/tarball/master``` <https://github.com/pharo-project/catalog/tarball/master%60%60%60> > since this is gzipped... (https://blog.abelotech.com/posts/how-download-github-tarball-using-curl-wge… <https://blog.abelotech.com/posts/how-download-github-tarball-using-curl-wge…>) > > or were you thinking using libgit to sync it? No, as you said. Esteban > > cheers -ben

Feb. 5, 2019

[ANN] Pharo Sprints first half 2019

by Marcus Denker

We organise one Pharo âSprintâ per month were we meet to work on boring issue tracker entries together. Goals of the next sprints: - Fix issues for Pharo8 - Backport important fixes to Pharo7 Remotely, you can join us on Discord. During the sprint, we will try to synchronize local and remote Pharo sprinters. In the past people organised local sprints at the same time (e.g. Santiago/Chile). See here for more infos: http://pharo.org/contribute-events There will be an event on the association website for each sprint. The next dates are: - 22 Feb https://association.pharo.org/event-3253818 - 29 Mar https://association.pharo.org/event-3253842 - 26 Apr https://association.pharo.org/event-3253846 - 31 May https://association.pharo.org/event-3253848 - 28 Jun https://association.pharo.org/event-3253850 For more Pharo Event, have a look at the Events Page: https://association.pharo.org/events

Feb. 5, 2019

Re: [Pharo-users] Github pharo-* organizations

by Ben Coman

On Tue, 5 Feb 2019 at 20:59, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > On 5 Feb 2019, at 13:49, Ben Coman <btc(a)openinworld.com> wrote: > > On 5 Feb 2019, at 02:42, Pierce Ng <pierce(a)samadhiweb.com> wrote: > > Hi all, > > Is there a definitive list of all the pharo-* organizations on GH? Like > pharo-rdbms, pharo-nosql, pharo-vcs, ... Or, a way to query GH to find out? > > Pierce > > > On Tue, 5 Feb 2019 at 15:52, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Naming the teams âpharo-somethingâ was kind of my idea to improve >> visibility of pharo. This has been followed by others which means we do not >> know all organisations nor all pharo contributions are made under a >> pharo-something team (in fact the less of them). >> >> We have in our TODO a new version of the catalog that will be âGitHub >> basedâ to group all projects. >> > > That would be very cool. Could that be something like a STON file people > can text edit directly on github? > > > Yes thatâs the idea: ston files and PRs! > When you said "files" plural, my first reaction was that downloading multiple files might take too long on poor connections, but then I realised you might download the list in the form ```https://github.com/pharo-project/catalog/tarball/master``` since this is gzipped... ( https://blog.abelotech.com/posts/how-download-github-tarball-using-curl-wge… ) or were you thinking using libgit to sync it? cheers -ben

Feb. 5, 2019

Re: [Pharo-users] Github pharo-* organizations

by Esteban Lorenzano

> On 5 Feb 2019, at 13:49, Ben Coman <btc(a)openinworld.com> wrote: > >> On 5 Feb 2019, at 02:42, Pierce Ng <pierce(a)samadhiweb.com <mailto:pierce@samadhiweb.com>> wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> Is there a definitive list of all the pharo-* organizations on GH? Like >> pharo-rdbms, pharo-nosql, pharo-vcs, ... Or, a way to query GH to find out? >> >> Pierce > > On Tue, 5 Feb 2019 at 15:52, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com <mailto:estebanlm@gmail.com>> wrote: > Hi, > > Naming the teams âpharo-somethingâ was kind of my idea to improve visibility of pharo. This has been followed by others which means we do not know all organisations nor all pharo contributions are made under a pharo-something team (in fact the less of them). > > We have in our TODO a new version of the catalog that will be âGitHub basedâ to group all projects. > > That would be very cool. Could that be something like a STON file people can text edit directly on github? Yes thatâs the idea: ston files and PRs! > Then for simple testing, could have a CI job that tests the new entries by diffing against the previous commit, > to confirm that the specified version exists in the specified ConfigurationOf or BaselineOf. > > cheers -ben

Feb. 5, 2019

Re: [Pharo-users] Github pharo-* organizations

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

> On 5 Feb 2019, at 13:49, Ben Coman <btc(a)openinworld.com> wrote: > >> On 5 Feb 2019, at 02:42, Pierce Ng <pierce(a)samadhiweb.com> wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> Is there a definitive list of all the pharo-* organizations on GH? Like >> pharo-rdbms, pharo-nosql, pharo-vcs, ... Or, a way to query GH to find out? >> >> Pierce > > On Tue, 5 Feb 2019 at 15:52, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > Naming the teams âpharo-somethingâ was kind of my idea to improve visibility of pharo. This has been followed by others which means we do not know all organisations nor all pharo contributions are made under a pharo-something team (in fact the less of them). > > We have in our TODO a new version of the catalog that will be âGitHub basedâ to group all projects. > > That would be very cool. Could that be something like a STON file people can text edit directly on github? > Then for simple testing, could have a CI job that tests the new entries by diffing against the previous commit, > to confirm that the specified version exists in the specified ConfigurationOf or BaselineOf. > > cheers -ben Let's not make it (too) complex, please. Everything has to be maintained (that is why 99% of all wikis are a mess). Even the old scheme (just copy the ConfigurationOf in the right repository) was not that easy to use (it required manual action to maintain). And can we please solve the problem that BaselineOf cannot be used as Catalog entries (or so I understood it).

Feb. 5, 2019

Re: [Pharo-users] Github pharo-* organizations

by Ben Coman

On 5 Feb 2019, at 02:42, Pierce Ng <pierce(a)samadhiweb.com> wrote: Hi all, Is there a definitive list of all the pharo-* organizations on GH? Like pharo-rdbms, pharo-nosql, pharo-vcs, ... Or, a way to query GH to find out? Pierce On Tue, 5 Feb 2019 at 15:52, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > Naming the teams âpharo-somethingâ was kind of my idea to improve > visibility of pharo. This has been followed by others which means we do not > know all organisations nor all pharo contributions are made under a > pharo-something team (in fact the less of them). > > We have in our TODO a new version of the catalog that will be âGitHub > basedâ to group all projects. > That would be very cool. Could that be something like a STON file people can text edit directly on github? Then for simple testing, could have a CI job that tests the new entries by diffing against the previous commit, to confirm that the specified version exists in the specified ConfigurationOf or BaselineOf. cheers -ben

Feb. 5, 2019

Re: [Pharo-users] Non-greedy RegEx?

by Richard O'Keefe

Please DON'T move to PCRE. "Outside world standards"? There are so many. There are two important things to know about PCRE: (1) it is a popular open source regexp library for Perl-style regexps, (2) because of that, it is prone to truly horrendous performance problems. There are alternatives, such as re2, https://github.com/google/re2 , which are not subject to PCRE's intrinsic performance pathologies. As it happens, re2 supports *? +? and ??. On Tue, 5 Feb 2019 at 20:34, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > Yes, Pharo regex implementation is very naive. > We will be moving to a PCRE binding to match outside world standards but > we have not had the time to work on it :( > > Esteban > > > On 5 Feb 2019, at 00:27, Manuel Leuenberger <leuenberger(a)inf.unibe.ch> > wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > I just noticed that the Pharo regexes do not understand non-greedy > matches. A regex engine to be PCRE is kind of essential, not having '.*?' > to be a parseable and working regex is a bummer. Are there any more > powerful regex engines around for Pharo? I could not find any. > > > > Cheers, > > Manuel > > > > > > >

Feb. 5, 2019

Re: [Pharo-users] package extensions in Pharo 7.

by HernÃ¡n Morales Durand

El mar., 5 feb. 2019 a las 8:07, Denis Kudriashov (<dionisiydk(a)gmail.com>) escribiÃ³: > Hi Paul. > > Ð²Ñ, 3 ÑÐµÐ²Ñ. 2019 Ð³., 19:57 PAUL DEBRUICKER pdebruic(a)gmail.com: > >> Hi - >> >> >> Is there a way to create the protocol, then convert it to an extension, >> without adding a method to it between the time I create the protocol and >> convert it to an extension? > > > No. > In Calypso there is no such thing as extension protocol. There is explicit > packaging of methods. When you create method you can toggle extension > checkbox in status bar and select a package where method should be created. > Same procedure can be applied on existing method. > > I tried to avoid star convention when I designed Calypso. > Thank you for this, IMO the star was annoying Cheers, HernÃ¡n

Feb. 5, 2019

Re: [Pharo-users] package extensions in Pharo 7.

by Denis Kudriashov

Hi Paul. Ð²Ñ, 3 ÑÐµÐ²Ñ. 2019 Ð³., 19:57 PAUL DEBRUICKER pdebruic(a)gmail.com: > Hi - > > > Is there a way to create the protocol, then convert it to an extension, > without adding a method to it between the time I create the protocol and > convert it to an extension? No. In Calypso there is no such thing as extension protocol. There is explicit packaging of methods. When you create method you can toggle extension checkbox in status bar and select a package where method should be created. Same procedure can be applied on existing method. I tried to avoid star convention when I designed Calypso. I think it is a ugly hack because package is not a protocol. But seems it is badly accepted by people. So it could be reverted at some point. But I believe it is better to improve/fix things which does not work well with current approach. Seems like it if the protocol is empty when I convert it to an extension it > gets deleted rather than converted. It needs to be improved to avoid such confusion > Would anyone be interested in having the thing that parses protocol names > automatically create extension protocols from names that start with * > instead of rejecting them immediately? > > > IS the new extension stuff cross platform compatible right now or do I > have to do anything else to port these methods & protocols to Squeak and > GemStone? > Calypso only touches UI. Nothing is changed on how extension sources are stored in files. It's stil based on star protocols. So it is compatible > > Thanks > > > Paul >

Feb. 5, 2019

Re: [Pharo-users] Running test

by Andrei Chis

Also broken on macOS High Sierra. [image: Screen Shot 2019-02-05 at 10.56.42.png] But this happens only if I click the download link and use the web browser to download it. If I use wget I can open it but it does not find the image: wget https://www.dropbox.com/s/z2acnw1yi77q4ps/DrGeo.app-19.03a.zip\?dl\=1 [image: Screen Shot 2019-02-05 at 10.58.46.png] I guess the problem is Gatekeeper. It flags dowloaded apps and if they contain executables that are not signed they will be marked as corrupted. If I disable Gatekeeper (spctl --master-disable) then I can also run the zip that I downloaded from the web browser. Cheers, Andrei On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 10:26 AM john pfersich <jpfersich(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On MaxOS Mojave, the bundle is corrupt > > [image: Screen Shot 2019-02-05 at 01.20.41.png] > > On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 1:04 AM eftomi <tomaz.turk(a)ef.uni-lj.si> wrote: > >> It works fine on Win 10 Pro (Version 10.0.17134 Build 17134). >> >> Tomaz >> >> >> >> -- >> Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html >> >>

Feb. 5, 2019