June 2018 - Pharo-users - lists.pharo.org

ESUG 2018 Innovation Technology Awards: Call for Submissions

by N. Bouraqadi

Dear fellow Smalltalkers, The 15th edition of the ESUG Innovation Technology Awards is now officially open. As for every year, you can submit software based on any Smalltalk flavor, to attempt to win one of the three prizes. All you have to do is to provide a 3-5min video demo. More info and a link to the submission server is at: https://esug.github.io/2018-Conference/awardsCall2018.html On behalf of the ESUG board, Noury -- http://twitter.com/#!/NouryBouraqadi http://car.imt-lille-douai.fr/noury

June 21, 2018

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo Launcher v1.2 release

by Peter UhnÃ¡k

Thanks for the release! Just a note regarding the Windows installer. I managed to crash and corrupt my Pharo Launcher (probably unrelated to PL.. I normally modify PharoLauncher to fit me better), so I wanted to reinstall it. As far as I can tell, the options "Modify" and "Repair" installation didn't do anything. I had to uninstall and install it again, but the uninstall option was incomplete, it left some content of the PharoLauncher folder in place (namely pharo-local, crash.dmp, stderr, stdout, and I think some more). So I guess an uninstall should also clean up? Thanks! Peter On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 9:06 AM, Christophe Demarey < christophe.demarey(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > > Le 20 juin 2018 Ã 16:08, Sean P. DeNigris <sean(a)clipperadams.com> a > Ã©crit : > > > > demarey wrote > >> I just released PharoLauncher 1.2 > > > > Thanks! > > > > Warning to users: This new release is based on 64-bit Pharo. This caused > a > > bit of unexpected havoc for me as my projects are not all tested on > 64-bit. > > Indeed, default download is a 64-bit image (os X and linux) but there is a > 32-bit version available: http://files.pharo.org/pharo- > launcher/1.2/PharoLauncher-1.2-x86.dmg or http://files.pharo.org/pharo- > launcher/1.2/PharoLauncher-linux-1.2-x86.zip >

June 21, 2018

Re: [Pharo-users] Smalltalk Programming Competition

by Tim Mackinnon

I noticed that your gofundme update email went into my spam mail box - so I wasnât aware it had gone live. Are you able to apply the funds from your previous campaign (The Ultimate Smalltalk Tutorial) to this one? As a contributor to that last one - which unfortunately didnât manage to deliver like you hoped, I am a little hesitantâ¦ I think this is often the way, we need to feel like its something that has gathered enough moment to succeed otherwise what happens to the money collected? Donât get me wrong, I am a fan of your tutorials (it reignited my interested a few years back) - so donât count me out yet. Tim > On 21 Jun 2018, at 11:23, horrido <horrido.hobbies(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > I'm disappointed in the response. Only two contributors of $100 each. This is > extremely tepid. > > There must be thousands of Smalltalkers around the world. How to reach out > to them? It can't be that hard to fund this contest. I mean, there are many > stupid causes on GoFundMe that have raised tens of thousands of dollars! > This Smalltalk programming competition is anything but stupid. > > If only 1500 Smalltalkers each contributed a paltry $20, the contest would > be fully funded. It would only take 300 contributors of $100 each. > > The question is: How much do we care about the future of Smalltalk? > > > > -- > Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html >

June 21, 2018

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 7, Iceberg, Proxy and Windows

by Vitor Medina Cruz

Ok, I forgot to mention I have changed LGitRepository>>clone:url:local_path:options:, but for some odd reason it's arguments names were switched to arg 1, arg2, arg3 etc, so the out error was because was renamed to one of those generic arg names. I figure that out looking at the versions of the methods, and it apers that when I first access it this change is made. Anyways, I fixed that and I still get "IceGenericError: failed to get server certificate: The identifier is not in the correct state for the resquested operation" On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 4:49 PM, Vitor Medina Cruz <vitormcruz(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hello, > > Iceberg fail to function behind a proxy on Pharo 7 32bits Windows. When I > try to clone I get a: > > IceGenericError: failed to get server certificate: The identifier is not > in the correct state for the resquested operation > > I had a similar problem some time ago with Pharo 6, in which I made a > local hot fix after questioning here. The fix was to the LGitCloneOptions > and LGitFetchOptions both at the initializeWithDefaults, currently this > method on LGitCloneOptions is like this: > > > initializeWithDefaults > self withReturnHandlerDo: [ > self > clone_init_options: self > version: LGitOptionsVersionsEnum git_clone_options_version_1 > ]. > > > > * self prim_fetch_opts prim_proxy_opts prim_type: LGitProxyTypeEnum > git_proxy_auto* > The bold is the fix, but it should come first in the method: > > initializeWithDefaults > > > * self prim_fetch_opts prim_proxy_opts prim_type: LGitProxyTypeEnum > git_proxy_auto* self withReturnHandlerDo: [ > self > clone_init_options: self > version: LGitOptionsVersionsEnum git_clone_options_version_1 > ]. > > > That way worked on Pharo 6, but now I got a: > > "FFIVariableNameNotFound: Could not find accessor for variable named 'out'" > > Any clues? > > Regards, > Vitor >

June 21, 2018

Re: [Pharo-users] OmniBase for Pharo 6

by Esteban Lorenzano

ok, I just updated it (and split tests from main package). now it loads and tests pass except for 3 failures. I let you provide a PR to fix them if thatâs an issue :) cheers, Esteban > On 21 Jun 2018, at 13:49, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > btwâ¦ the baseline I created will just load OmniBase. Some dependencies (like OSProcess) where not included (as I said, I just made it loadable in P6+, some work may be needed to make it pass). > > cheers, > Esteban > >> On 21 Jun 2018, at 13:13, Matias Maretto <mgmaretto(a)hotmail.com <mailto:mgmaretto@hotmail.com>> wrote: >> >> Hi, Thank you Esteban, I will load it and run some test; very thankful. Todd , Tim, also thank you for your comments, I will certainly take a look a Voyage. >> I will let you know how it turns out. >> >> Matias. >> >> >> >> De: Pharo-users <pharo-users-bounces(a)lists.pharo.org <mailto:pharo-users-bounces@lists.pharo.org>> en nombre de Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com <mailto:estebanlm@gmail.com>> >> Enviado: jueves, 21 de junio de 2018 07:10 a. m. >> Para: Any question about pharo is welcome >> Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] OmniBase for Pharo 6 >> >> Hi, >> >> I just made a âblind portâ of OmniBase to Pharo6+ (migrated the old FFI to new UFFI). >> New port is here: >> >> https://github.com/estebanlm/OmniBase <https://github.com/estebanlm/OmniBase> >> <https://github.com/estebanlm/OmniBase> >> estebanlm/OmniBase <https://github.com/estebanlm/OmniBase> >> github.com <http://github.com/> >> OmniBase is Smalltalk efficient objects repository, BTree and filesystem based with full ACID features >> >> >> and can be load like this: >> >> Metacello new >> repository: 'github://estebanlm/OmniBase/src <applewebdata://A9A2701D-4985-498F-895C-8C8FC2412BFF>'; >> baseline: 'OmniBase'; >> load. >> >> PLEASE note Iâve never used OmniBase and I donât know if this port will work out of the box. But if it was working, it should continue working now (and this list can help to get you rolling). >> >> cheers, >> Esteban >> >> ps: I always wanted to do a Voyage-OmniBaseâ¦ maybe this is the moment? :P >> >> >> >>> On 21 Jun 2018, at 08:13, Tim Mackinnon <tim(a)testit.works <mailto:tim@testit.works>> wrote: >>> >>> I too used it in Dolphin and it was fine, But i donât think it gets used much in Pharo and so has probably decayed, isnât Voyage an object dB or Gemstone? >>> >>> (Todd & everyone, a gentle reminder to try and leave personality opinions at the door , weâve already had another thread that got overly heated unnecessarily. Our community is small and we need to avoid knife fights. The technical stuff is already hard enough) >>> >>> Tim >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On 21 Jun 2018, at 00:20, Matias Maretto <mgmaretto(a)hotmail.com <mailto:mgmaretto@hotmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>>> thanks for your answer Todd. I know omnibase from dolphin. Now I am starting a new Project and I want to use pharo. Would you recommend me another object database? >>>> Thanks. >>>> >>>> El 20 jun. 2018 19:29, Todd Blanchard <tblanchard(a)mac.com <mailto:tblanchard@mac.com>> escribiÃ³: >>>> FWIW, I have used it before and I don't have anything good to say about the library or the individual who wrote it. >>>> >>>> I'd look for something else. >>>> >>>> On Jun 20, 2018, at 3:05 PM, pablo digonzelli Argentina <pdigonzelli(a)gmail.com <mailto:pdigonzelli@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi try this. I do not know if working on pharo 6 or 7 >>>> >>>> https://github.com/sebastianconcept/OmniBase <https://github.com/sebastianconcept/OmniBase> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> El miÃ©., 20 jun. 2018 a las 17:22, Matias Maretto (<mgmaretto(a)hotmail.com <mailto:mgmaretto@hotmail.com>>) escribiÃ³: >>>> Hi folks, does anyone know how to get OmniBase for Pharo 6?. The Package on Pharo.org <http://pharo.org/> is for pharo 4, I tried to install them manually from the MCZ files, but I get a strange error in a closeHandle method. <apicall: Literal constant expected -> ulong 'CloseHandle' (long) module:'kernel32.dll'> >>>> ^self externalCallFailed. >>>> I am using win 7. >>>> Thanks. >>>> Matias. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Ing. Pablo Digonzelli >>>> Software Solutions >>>> IP-Solutiones SRL >>>> 25 de Mayo 521 >>>> Email: pdigonzelli(a)softsargentina.com <mailto:pdigonzelli@softsargentina.com> >>>> pdigonzelli(a)gmail.com <mailto:pdigonzelli@gmail.com> >>>> Cel: 543815982714 >>>> >>>> >> >> >

June 21, 2018

Re: [Pharo-users] OmniBase for Pharo 6

by Esteban Lorenzano

btwâ¦ the baseline I created will just load OmniBase. Some dependencies (like OSProcess) where not included (as I said, I just made it loadable in P6+, some work may be needed to make it pass). cheers, Esteban > On 21 Jun 2018, at 13:13, Matias Maretto <mgmaretto(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > Hi, Thank you Esteban, I will load it and run some test; very thankful. Todd , Tim, also thank you for your comments, I will certainly take a look a Voyage. > I will let you know how it turns out. > > Matias. > > > > De: Pharo-users <pharo-users-bounces(a)lists.pharo.org <mailto:pharo-users-bounces@lists.pharo.org>> en nombre de Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com <mailto:estebanlm@gmail.com>> > Enviado: jueves, 21 de junio de 2018 07:10 a. m. > Para: Any question about pharo is welcome > Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] OmniBase for Pharo 6 > > Hi, > > I just made a âblind portâ of OmniBase to Pharo6+ (migrated the old FFI to new UFFI). > New port is here: > > https://github.com/estebanlm/OmniBase <https://github.com/estebanlm/OmniBase> > <https://github.com/estebanlm/OmniBase> > estebanlm/OmniBase <https://github.com/estebanlm/OmniBase> > github.com <http://github.com/> > OmniBase is Smalltalk efficient objects repository, BTree and filesystem based with full ACID features > > > and can be load like this: > > Metacello new > repository: 'github://estebanlm/OmniBase/src <applewebdata://7D5B0408-F1B1-41A7-8B4F-B72AE4EBF86A>'; > baseline: 'OmniBase'; > load. > > PLEASE note Iâve never used OmniBase and I donât know if this port will work out of the box. But if it was working, it should continue working now (and this list can help to get you rolling). > > cheers, > Esteban > > ps: I always wanted to do a Voyage-OmniBaseâ¦ maybe this is the moment? :P > > > >> On 21 Jun 2018, at 08:13, Tim Mackinnon <tim(a)testit.works <mailto:tim@testit.works>> wrote: >> >> I too used it in Dolphin and it was fine, But i donât think it gets used much in Pharo and so has probably decayed, isnât Voyage an object dB or Gemstone? >> >> (Todd & everyone, a gentle reminder to try and leave personality opinions at the door , weâve already had another thread that got overly heated unnecessarily. Our community is small and we need to avoid knife fights. The technical stuff is already hard enough) >> >> Tim >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On 21 Jun 2018, at 00:20, Matias Maretto <mgmaretto(a)hotmail.com <mailto:mgmaretto@hotmail.com>> wrote: >> >>> thanks for your answer Todd. I know omnibase from dolphin. Now I am starting a new Project and I want to use pharo. Would you recommend me another object database? >>> Thanks. >>> >>> El 20 jun. 2018 19:29, Todd Blanchard <tblanchard(a)mac.com <mailto:tblanchard@mac.com>> escribiÃ³: >>> FWIW, I have used it before and I don't have anything good to say about the library or the individual who wrote it. >>> >>> I'd look for something else. >>> >>> On Jun 20, 2018, at 3:05 PM, pablo digonzelli Argentina <pdigonzelli(a)gmail.com <mailto:pdigonzelli@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi try this. I do not know if working on pharo 6 or 7 >>> >>> https://github.com/sebastianconcept/OmniBase <https://github.com/sebastianconcept/OmniBase> >>> >>> >>> >>> El miÃ©., 20 jun. 2018 a las 17:22, Matias Maretto (<mgmaretto(a)hotmail.com <mailto:mgmaretto@hotmail.com>>) escribiÃ³: >>> Hi folks, does anyone know how to get OmniBase for Pharo 6?. The Package on Pharo.org <http://pharo.org/> is for pharo 4, I tried to install them manually from the MCZ files, but I get a strange error in a closeHandle method. <apicall: Literal constant expected -> ulong 'CloseHandle' (long) module:'kernel32.dll'> >>> ^self externalCallFailed. >>> I am using win 7. >>> Thanks. >>> Matias. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Ing. Pablo Digonzelli >>> Software Solutions >>> IP-Solutiones SRL >>> 25 de Mayo 521 >>> Email: pdigonzelli(a)softsargentina.com <mailto:pdigonzelli@softsargentina.com> >>> pdigonzelli(a)gmail.com <mailto:pdigonzelli@gmail.com> >>> Cel: 543815982714 >>> >>> > >

June 21, 2018

Re: [Pharo-users] OmniBase for Pharo 6

by Matias Maretto

Hi, Thank you Esteban, I will load it and run some test; very thankful. Todd , Tim, also thank you for your comments, I will certainly take a look a Voyage. I will let you know how it turns out. Matias. ________________________________ De: Pharo-users <pharo-users-bounces(a)lists.pharo.org> en nombre de Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> Enviado: jueves, 21 de junio de 2018 07:10 a. m. Para: Any question about pharo is welcome Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] OmniBase for Pharo 6 Hi, I just made a âblind portâ of OmniBase to Pharo6+ (migrated the old FFI to new UFFI). New port is here: https://github.com/estebanlm/OmniBase [https://avatars0.githubusercontent.com/u/513630?s=400&v=4]<https://github.com/estebanlm/OmniBase> estebanlm/OmniBase<https://github.com/estebanlm/OmniBase> github.com OmniBase is Smalltalk efficient objects repository, BTree and filesystem based with full ACID features and can be load like this: Metacello new repository: 'github://estebanlm/OmniBase/src'; baseline: 'OmniBase'; load. PLEASE note Iâve never used OmniBase and I donât know if this port will work out of the box. But if it was working, it should continue working now (and this list can help to get you rolling). cheers, Esteban ps: I always wanted to do a Voyage-OmniBaseâ¦ maybe this is the moment? :P On 21 Jun 2018, at 08:13, Tim Mackinnon <tim(a)testit.works<mailto:tim@testit.works>> wrote: I too used it in Dolphin and it was fine, But i donât think it gets used much in Pharo and so has probably decayed, isnât Voyage an object dB or Gemstone? (Todd & everyone, a gentle reminder to try and leave personality opinions at the door , weâve already had another thread that got overly heated unnecessarily. Our community is small and we need to avoid knife fights. The technical stuff is already hard enough) Tim Sent from my iPhone On 21 Jun 2018, at 00:20, Matias Maretto <mgmaretto(a)hotmail.com<mailto:mgmaretto@hotmail.com>> wrote: thanks for your answer Todd. I know omnibase from dolphin. Now I am starting a new Project and I want to use pharo. Would you recommend me another object database? Thanks. El 20 jun. 2018 19:29, Todd Blanchard <tblanchard(a)mac.com<mailto:tblanchard@mac.com>> escribiÃ³: FWIW, I have used it before and I don't have anything good to say about the library or the individual who wrote it. I'd look for something else. On Jun 20, 2018, at 3:05 PM, pablo digonzelli Argentina <pdigonzelli(a)gmail.com<mailto:pdigonzelli@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi try this. I do not know if working on pharo 6 or 7 https://github.com/sebastianconcept/OmniBase El miÃ©., 20 jun. 2018 a las 17:22, Matias Maretto (<mgmaretto(a)hotmail.com<mailto:mgmaretto@hotmail.com>>) escribiÃ³: Hi folks, does anyone know how to get OmniBase for Pharo 6?. The Package on Pharo.org<http://pharo.org/> is for pharo 4, I tried to install them manually from the MCZ files, but I get a strange error in a closeHandle method. <apicall: Literal constant expected -> ulong 'CloseHandle' (long) module:'kernel32.dll'> ^self externalCallFailed. I am using win 7. Thanks. Matias. -- Ing. Pablo Digonzelli Software Solutions IP-Solutiones SRL 25 de Mayo 521 Email: pdigonzelli(a)softsargentina.com<mailto:pdigonzelli@softsargentina.com> pdigonzelli(a)gmail.com<mailto:pdigonzelli@gmail.com> Cel: 543815982714

June 21, 2018

Re: [Pharo-users] Smalltalk Programming Competition

by Serge Stinckwich

hi Horrido, I would like to thank you for your effort to organize this competition. But for the amount you are asking (30K USD), I don't expect that much people to participate if you don't give them more feedback and information on your project. You have too look how successful crowdfunding campaigns are working. Recently, one of my friend Gael Duval organize a crowd campaign to fund a a new mobile OS that is privacy-enable and ask 25K Euros (less than you, but receive 95K Euros at the end) and put a lot of energy and info during several months too convince people: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/290746744/eelo-a-mobile-os-and-web-ser… Ok, the subject is completely different and maybe his topic is sensible for a lot of people but the concerns are the same. At the end, you need to convince people to give you money. What is your budget ? what kind of competition you will organize ? how you will convince schools/university to participate ? How you will reward people for their participation ? Sorry to say, people will not give money just because you wrote a half-page statement. Best, On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 11:23 AM horrido <horrido.hobbies(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I'm disappointed in the response. Only two contributors of $100 each. This > is > extremely tepid. > > There must be thousands of Smalltalkers around the world. How to reach out > to them? It can't be that hard to fund this contest. I mean, there are many > stupid causes on GoFundMe that have raised tens of thousands of dollars! > This Smalltalk programming competition is anything but stupid. > > If only 1500 Smalltalkers each contributed a paltry $20, the contest would > be fully funded. It would only take 300 contributors of $100 each. > > The question is: How much do we care about the future of Smalltalk? > > > > -- > Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html > > -- Serge Stinckwich UMI UMMISCO 209 (SU/IRD/UY1) "Programs must be written for people to read, and only incidentally for machines to execute."http://www.doesnotunderstand.org/

June 21, 2018

Re: [Pharo-users] OmniBase for Pharo 6

by Tim Mackinnon

Todd - thanks for clarifying - thats a fairer non-emotive assessment. I also know that you often helpfully chip in here too, so thanks for that too. Tim > On 21 Jun 2018, at 11:18, Todd Blanchard <tblanchard(a)mac.com> wrote: > > I'll just leave it with production data was lost through creeping file corruption and recovery services were paid for but not rendered. If you need your data to be safe, I'd pick something else. > > Sorry if that seems offensive, that's my experience with it. > >> On Jun 20, 2018, at 11:13 PM, Tim Mackinnon <tim(a)testit.works <mailto:tim@testit.works>> wrote: >> >> I too used it in Dolphin and it was fine, But i donât think it gets used much in Pharo and so has probably decayed, isnât Voyage an object dB or Gemstone? >> >> (Todd & everyone, a gentle reminder to try and leave personality opinions at the door , weâve already had another thread that got overly heated unnecessarily. Our community is small and we need to avoid knife fights. The technical stuff is already hard enough) >> >> Tim >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On 21 Jun 2018, at 00:20, Matias Maretto <mgmaretto(a)hotmail.com <mailto:mgmaretto@hotmail.com>> wrote: >> >>> thanks for your answer Todd. I know omnibase from dolphin. Now I am starting a new Project and I want to use pharo. Would you recommend me another object database? >>> Thanks. >>> >>> El 20 jun. 2018 19:29, Todd Blanchard <tblanchard(a)mac.com <mailto:tblanchard@mac.com>> escribiÃ³: >>> FWIW, I have used it before and I don't have anything good to say about the library or the individual who wrote it. >>> >>> I'd look for something else. >>> >>> On Jun 20, 2018, at 3:05 PM, pablo digonzelli Argentina <pdigonzelli(a)gmail.com <mailto:pdigonzelli@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi try this. I do not know if working on pharo 6 or 7 >>> >>> https://github.com/sebastianconcept/OmniBase <https://github.com/sebastianconcept/OmniBase> >>> >>> >>> >>> El miÃ©., 20 jun. 2018 a las 17:22, Matias Maretto (<mgmaretto(a)hotmail.com <mailto:mgmaretto@hotmail.com>>) escribiÃ³: >>> Hi folks, does anyone know how to get OmniBase for Pharo 6?. The Package on Pharo.org <http://pharo.org/> is for pharo 4, I tried to install them manually from the MCZ files, but I get a strange error in a closeHandle method. <apicall: Literal constant expected -> ulong 'CloseHandle' (long) module:'kernel32.dll'> >>> ^self externalCallFailed. >>> I am using win 7. >>> Thanks. >>> Matias. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Ing. Pablo Digonzelli >>> Software Solutions >>> IP-Solutiones SRL >>> 25 de Mayo 521 >>> Email: pdigonzelli(a)softsargentina.com <mailto:pdigonzelli@softsargentina.com> >>> pdigonzelli(a)gmail.com <mailto:pdigonzelli@gmail.com> >>> Cel: 543815982714 >>> >>> >

June 21, 2018

Re: [Pharo-users] Smalltalk Programming Competition

by horrido

I'm disappointed in the response. Only two contributors of $100 each. This is extremely tepid. There must be thousands of Smalltalkers around the world. How to reach out to them? It can't be that hard to fund this contest. I mean, there are many stupid causes on GoFundMe that have raised tens of thousands of dollars! This Smalltalk programming competition is anything but stupid. If only 1500 Smalltalkers each contributed a paltry $20, the contest would be fully funded. It would only take 300 contributors of $100 each. The question is: How much do we care about the future of Smalltalk? -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html

June 21, 2018