April 2018 - Pharo-users - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo Launcher

by phil＠highoctane.be

Install the bleeding edge thing, it works for me on win 10. I also noticed that the launcher runs images with VMs that do have a weird management of cursors in the dark themes, it seems that there the masks are not used properly and so, the dark arrow has no white border making it impossible to see. It was not like that before, so I suspect a VM thing. Phil On Sun, Apr 15, 2018 at 9:00 PM, Hilaire <hilaire(a)drgeo.eu> wrote: > Can you make a search for your PharoDebug.log, because I can see, at least > on P7 and Linux, this file is not always located nearby the image but at > the user root directory. > > Hilaire > > > Le 15/04/2018 Ã 20:52, Benoit St-Jean via Pharo-users a Ã©crit : > >> Downloaded it. Installed it. Started it. Selected an image. Bam. The >> app vanished. >> >> Also tried on a brand-new-and-fresh-Windows-10 >> -machine-with-nothing-previously-installed and same thing. >> >> The app doesn't even show in the task manager. >> >> And no error file was created. >> >> > -- > Dr. Geo > http://drgeo.eu > > > > >

April 15, 2018

Re: Pharo Launcher

by Benoit St-Jean

"What path did you install to?" The installer put it in: C:\Users\BenoÃ®t St-Jean\AppData\Local\Programs\Pharo\BCPharoLauncher> ----------------- BenoÃ®t St-Jean Yahoo! Messenger: bstjean Twitter: @BenLeChialeux Pinterest: benoitstjean Instagram: Chef_Benito IRC: lamneth Blogue: endormitoire.wordpress.com "A standpoint is an intellectual horizon of radius zero".Â (A. Einstein)

April 15, 2018

Re: [Pharo-users] Where do we go now ?

by Benoit St-Jean

"I don't understand what you mean.Â Â There is a setting that *gives* you the opportunity to decide." I have no clue, I've never been able to actually have PharoLauncher start & work!!! ----------------- BenoÃ®t St-Jean Yahoo! Messenger: bstjean Twitter: @BenLeChialeux Pinterest: benoitstjean Instagram: Chef_Benito IRC: lamneth Blogue: endormitoire.wordpress.com "A standpoint is an intellectual horizon of radius zero".Â (A. Einstein)

April 15, 2018

Re: [Pharo-users] Where do we go now ?

by Ben Coman

On 16 April 2018 at 03:46, Benoit St-Jean <bstjean(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >> >> "As a work around, in the PharoLauncher settings can you set the directories like >> C:\PharoLauncher\images >> C:\PharoLauncher\vms >> and report if that helps. >> " > Or even better, let the user decide! I don't understand what you mean. There is a setting that *gives* you the opportunity to decide. >> and report if that helps. What was the result of my suggestion provided above? Also, with the MSI I provided in the other link, can you try installing under C:\PharoLauncher. cheers -ben

April 15, 2018

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo Launcher

by Ben Coman

On 16 April 2018 at 02:52, Benoit St-Jean <bstjean(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > "To be clear, the problem was heavily influenced by the constraints of an > external tool. > Get PharoLauncher installed in the right location and it works like a > dream. > Did you try the proof-of-concept installer I posted previously to the > list... > http://www.mediafire.com/file/3g579bmzqspt8e1/BCPharoLauncher.msi > " > > Downloaded it. Installed it. > What path did you install to? cheers -ben > Started it. Selected an image. Bam. The app vanished. > > Also tried on a brand-new-and-fresh-Windows-10-machine-with-nothing-previously-installed > and same thing. > > The app doesn't even show in the task manager. > > And no error file was created. > > If that helps, both machines have Windows in French installed. >

April 15, 2018

Re: [Pharo-users] Where do we go now ?

by Cyril Ferlicot D.

Le 13/04/2018 Ã 14:27, Denis Kudriashov a Ã©critÂ : > At some point we should force rule "All packages have comments". And > indication with icon like we do for classes. > With Calypso the package comment is always available. So it would be > easy to find description. > > I would like to force this rule too but it'll need some work because some packages are not only loaded in Pharo (as Alien) and PackageManifest is not present in Squeak image. -- Cyril Ferlicot https://ferlicot.fr

April 15, 2018

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo Launcher

by Sebastian Heidbrink

Hey Marten, I have the same system and I encountered similar issues. Search your folders of debug logs. Sometimes the launcher expects the image an a different path, or a sources file was unzipped into the wrong folder, or the extracted files of vms or images have the wrong read write access. I will check my system for changes that I might have done to the system and sent them to you. In general it should work on Linux Mint. I use it regularly. Sebastian Am 15.04.2018 um 12:23 schrieb Marten Feldtmann: > After a long time I wanted to have a look at the current Pharo situation. > > I just downloaded the Linux 64bit version of Pharo from the web site: > > -> I opened "pharo" (via a double click on the pharo application) and > got a list of possible templates I could load. > > -> I selected Pharo 6.1 template, created an image and wanted to start > that image - the initial application disappeared - but nothing happened > after that. > > If I start the initial pharo app from a shell by hand and I want to > start the selected image it seems to work. > > My system: Linux Mint 18.1, 64 bit > > > >

April 15, 2018

Re: [Pharo-users] Where do we go now ?

by Benoit St-Jean

"As a work around, in the PharoLauncher settings can you set the directories likeÂ C:\PharoLauncher\imagesC:\PharoLaucnher\vmsand report if that helps.Â " Or even better, let the user decide! ----------------- BenoÃ®t St-Jean Yahoo! Messenger: bstjean Twitter: @BenLeChialeux Pinterest: benoitstjean Instagram: Chef_Benito IRC: lamneth Blogue: endormitoire.wordpress.com "A standpoint is an intellectual horizon of radius zero".Â (A. Einstein) On Sunday, April 15, 2018, 12:58:44 a.m. EDT, Ben Coman <btc(a)openinworld.com> wrote: On 13 April 2018 at 17:49, Benoit St-Jean via Pharo-users <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> wrote: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From:Â Benoit St-Jean <bstjean(a)yahoo.com> To:Â Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> Cc:Â Any question about pharo is welcome <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> Bcc:Â Date:Â Fri, 13 Apr 2018 09:49:15 +0000 (UTC) Subject:Â Re: [Pharo-users] Where do we go now ? For those interested. Created the issues 21686, 21693, 21695, 21696. And more to come... Thanks for those.Â I don't much time right to devote, but managed to knock one off.And I learn't something new.Â I'd not known there was a setting for screen background. The other ones seem related to a problem dealing with user home folders containing non-ascii characters.Currently this seems only to affect a small number of people, but is a show stopper for them,and the numbers will grow with our hoped for growing popularity. As a work around, in the PharoLauncher settings can you set the directories likeÂ C:\PharoLauncher\imagesC:\PharoLaucnher\vmsand report if that helps.Â Â Note, I bumped into an issue changing that setting myself recently where it tries to migrateÂ the existing images from the old to the new folder, causing a catch-22 when your tryingto do that to work around other problems.Â To work around that, I had to scrollÂ down the debug stack to find where the migration was iterating through the image folders,and short circuit that with "Return entered value" from the context menu.Â Any valuewill do when the return value is not used.Â good luck. @PharoLauncher maintainers, can the change in this setting be made to succeed even if the migration fails.(I need to run right now) cheers -ben

April 15, 2018

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo Launcher

by Benoit St-Jean

I looked for it : isn't there. ----------------- BenoÃ®t St-Jean Yahoo! Messenger: bstjean Twitter: @BenLeChialeux Pinterest: benoitstjean Instagram: Chef_Benito IRC: lamneth Blogue: endormitoire.wordpress.com "A standpoint is an intellectual horizon of radius zero".Â (A. Einstein) On Sunday, April 15, 2018, 3:01:30 p.m. EDT, Hilaire <hilaire(a)drgeo.eu> wrote: Can you make a search for your PharoDebug.log, because I can see, at least on P7 and Linux, this file is not always located nearby the image but at the user root directory. Hilaire Le 15/04/2018 Ã 20:52, Benoit St-Jean via Pharo-users a Ã©critÂ : > Downloaded it.Â Installed it.Â Started it.Â Selected an image.Â Bam.Â > The app vanished. > > Also tried on a > brand-new-and-fresh-Windows-10-machine-with-nothing-previously-installed > and same thing. > > The app doesn't even show in the task manager. > > And no error file was created. > -- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu

April 15, 2018

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo Launcher

by Marten Feldtmann

After a long time I wanted to have a look at the current Pharo situation. I just downloaded the Linux 64bit version of Pharo from the web site: -> I opened "pharo" (via a double click on the pharo application) and got a list of possible templates I could load. -> I selected Pharo 6.1 template, created an image and wanted to start that image - the initial application disappeared - but nothing happened after that. If I start the initial pharo app from a shell by hand and I want to start the selected image it seems to work. My system: Linux Mint 18.1, 64 bit -- Marten Feldtmann

April 15, 2018