March 2018 - Pharo-users - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-users] Please rejoin Discord

by Dimitris Chloupis

Hmm thats weird that you guys lost your admin roles, but not entirely, maybe the hack is responsible, no problem will add you back. I removed the authorisation of any third party apps and I am closing any potential security hole. I think I got them all covered but will stick around and keep ownership of the server to make sure nothing like this happens again. Please note that our message history is unharmed and nothing has been lost. I have however restored permissions to all channels so any channels admins may want to restore them back to their preference, if you are no longer a channel admit please drop me a message in here or Discord. The good news out of this experience is that I was completely blown away by the sheer numbers we had so far. It felt almost a year ago, when people frowned on the idea of leaving Slack for Discord (not that I blame them) and now we have 1000 members. This is an opportunity to see how many of those 1000 are active members. Obviously a minority of them but still in terms of Discord numbers that is a pretty big community. Another proof of the growing popularity of Pharo. By the way being admin is not a responsibility, it does not come with strings attached. I make people admins in the case when I or Esteban are not around and cannot help , so people can help each other if they are available and willing. Do not feel any guilt if you are not able or willing to do any admin work. If you just help a member even one time that is reason enough to be in admin position. Both Esteban and I have been able to maintain the server with ease and the fact that 11 hours passed was that I sleeping (yeas I do sleep, sometimes :D ) took me some time to respond. Overall managing the server requires minor attention and this is the first issue we have experienced so far. So all is good and thank you all for making Pharo better and helping each other, keep rocking :) On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 1:34 PM phil(a)highoctane.be <phil(a)highoctane.be> wrote: > Same here, no more admin > > On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 12:15 PM, ClÃ©ment Bera <bera.clement(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> I think the roles got changed I am no longer admin (Note that it does not >> really matter since I did not do much admin work but still) >> >> On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 11:48 AM, Dimitris Chloupis < >> kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hey guys after my mistake we got "hacked" and someone banned all our >>> members in Discord >>> >>> I have revoked all the bans but you will have to rejoin . Existing join >>> links are still valid , if you dont have one here is one >>> >>> https://discord.gg/gtKeHne >>> >>> My apologies for this inconvenience, I am still exploring all possible >>> threats to make sure this never happens again. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> ClÃ©ment BÃ©ra >> Pharo consortium engineer >> https://clementbera.github.io/ >> https://clementbera.wordpress.com/ >> BÃ¢timent B 40, avenue Halley 59650 >> <https://maps.google.com/?q=40,+avenue+Halley+59650%C2%A0+Villeneuve+d+Ascq&…>Villeneuve >> d >> <https://maps.google.com/?q=40,+avenue+Halley+59650%C2%A0+Villeneuve+d+Ascq&…> >> 'Ascq >> <https://maps.google.com/?q=40,+avenue+Halley+59650%C2%A0+Villeneuve+d+Ascq&…> >> > >

March 10, 2018

Re: [Pharo-users] Please rejoin Discord

by phil＠highoctane.be

Same here, no more admin On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 12:15 PM, ClÃ©ment Bera <bera.clement(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I think the roles got changed I am no longer admin (Note that it does not > really matter since I did not do much admin work but still) > > On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 11:48 AM, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com > > wrote: > >> Hey guys after my mistake we got "hacked" and someone banned all our >> members in Discord >> >> I have revoked all the bans but you will have to rejoin . Existing join >> links are still valid , if you dont have one here is one >> >> https://discord.gg/gtKeHne >> >> My apologies for this inconvenience, I am still exploring all possible >> threats to make sure this never happens again. >> > > > > -- > ClÃ©ment BÃ©ra > Pharo consortium engineer > https://clementbera.github.io/ > https://clementbera.wordpress.com/ > BÃ¢timent B 40, avenue Halley 59650 > <https://maps.google.com/?q=40,+avenue+Halley+59650%C2%A0+Villeneuve+d+Ascq&…>Villeneuve > d > <https://maps.google.com/?q=40,+avenue+Halley+59650%C2%A0+Villeneuve+d+Ascq&…> > 'Ascq > <https://maps.google.com/?q=40,+avenue+Halley+59650%C2%A0+Villeneuve+d+Ascq&…> >

March 10, 2018

Fwd: [Pharo-dev] Please rejoin Discord

by Esteban Lorenzano

yes, please rejoin Discord you too ;) > Begin forwarded message: > > From: Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> > Subject: [Pharo-dev] Please rejoin Discord > Date: 10 March 2018 at 11:51:47 CET > To: Pharo Development List <pharo-dev(a)lists.pharo.org> > Reply-To: Pharo Development List <pharo-dev(a)lists.pharo.org> > > > Hey guys after my mistake we got "hacked" and someone banned all our members in Discord > > I have revoked all the bans but you will have to rejoin . Existing join links are still valid , if you dont have one here is one > > https://discord.gg/gtKeHne <https://discord.gg/gtKeHne> > > My apologies for this inconvenience, I am still exploring all possible threats to make sure this never happens again.

March 10, 2018

Re: [Pharo-users] Please rejoin Discord

by ClÃ©ment Bera

I think the roles got changed I am no longer admin (Note that it does not really matter since I did not do much admin work but still) On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 11:48 AM, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hey guys after my mistake we got "hacked" and someone banned all our > members in Discord > > I have revoked all the bans but you will have to rejoin . Existing join > links are still valid , if you dont have one here is one > > https://discord.gg/gtKeHne > > My apologies for this inconvenience, I am still exploring all possible > threats to make sure this never happens again. > -- ClÃ©ment BÃ©ra Pharo consortium engineer https://clementbera.github.io/ https://clementbera.wordpress.com/ BÃ¢timent B 40, avenue Halley 59650 Villeneuve d'Ascq

March 10, 2018

Re: [Pharo-users] cancel changes in Nautilus broken on 6.1?

by Ben Coman

On 10 March 2018 at 00:13, Siemen Baader <siemenbaader(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 8:02 AM, Ben Coman <btc(a)openinworld.com> wrote: > >> thx for looking into this. half way there ;) >> do you have the Pharo build numbers that match these Nautilus versions? >> > > I don't. PharoLauncher didn't work for me, when I try to launch an image I > get an exception "MessageNotUnderstood: MacProcess>>waitForCommand:". So I > just downloaded images from get.pharo.org and then used Monticello to > identify the Nautilus packages versions and bisected in a 6.0 image until I > found the version that introduced the bug. Do you need the build numbers? I > suppose I can get the builds from > https://ci.inria.fr/pharo/ ? > In Image, go World menu > System > System Reporter. cheers -ben > > cheers, > Siemen > > >> >> cheers -ben >> >> On 9 March 2018 at 14:30, Siemen Baader <siemenbaader(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> The regression happens between Nautilus-TheIntegrator1352.mcz and >>> Nautilus-TheIntegrator1351.mcz. Pharo 6.0 uses >>> Nautilus-TheIntegrator1366.mcz >>> >>> I'll look more to find the actual code that breaks. >>> >>> -- Siemen >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 6:57 PM, Siemen Baader <siemenbaader(a)gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Stef, >>>> >>>> On Sat, Feb 10, 2018 at 6:22 PM, Stephane Ducasse < >>>> stepharo.self(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Siemen >>>>> >>>>> I use often cmd-L too and may be we got a regression. >>>>> >>>> >>>> I'm pretty sure I started doing it after I saw you do it in the MOOC ;) >>>> >>>> And indeed I have the same behavior in Pharo 70. >>>>> Can you try to see how to address it? >>>>> >>>> >>>> Yes, I can try to look into it. I don't have any clear idea where to >>>> start other than browsing Nautilus code and perhaps uses of >>>> NautilusChanged, but perhaps it is not that hard to find. >>>> >>>> -- Siemen >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Stef >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Feb 9, 2018 at 8:37 PM, Siemen Baader <siemenbaader(a)gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> > Hi all, >>>>> > >>>>> > I downloaded Pharo 6.1 for OSX and whenever I revert changes in >>>>> Nautilus >>>>> > with CMD-L, the content is reverted and the orange dirty marker >>>>> triangle >>>>> > disappears. But when I switch to a different method, Nautilus shows >>>>> the >>>>> > 'Content has been modified. What do you want to do?' dialog, as it >>>>> only >>>>> > should when content is actually different. >>>>> > >>>>> > I use this all the time, I can't imagine I'm the only one, but I >>>>> couldn't >>>>> > find the problem mentioned anywhere. Does anyone else have it? What >>>>> to do? >>>>> > >>>>> > -- Siemen >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >

March 10, 2018

Please rejoin Discord

by Dimitris Chloupis

Hey guys after my mistake we got "hacked" and someone banned all our members in Discord I have revoked all the bans but you will have to rejoin . Existing join links are still valid , if you dont have one here is one https://discord.gg/gtKeHne My apologies for this inconvenience, I am still exploring all possible threats to make sure this never happens again.

March 10, 2018

Re: [Pharo-users] Ever growing image

by Hilaire

Le 06/03/2018 Ã 11:55, Guillermo Polito a Ã©critÂ : > > In any case, I only wanted to say that it is unfair to say that Pharo > is big when "you only load your packages". > And I feel that's not true, if you're using the graphical environment, > you need display, bitblt, morphic, widgets. > As soon as you need to dynamically run scripts you need the compiler > and parsing machinery. > As soon as you write any program you mostly need many core libraries > (just think about collections). It is not unfair, it is just a reality. First version of DrGeo image on Pharo, including display, bitblt, morphic, widgets, compiler, parser was bellow 10MB (including DrGeo code)[1]. Now the question that matter for me, can I get back toward this fair size or close to? I don't buy on the argument we have plenty of place, who cares. It is wrong. It is with this kind of argument we will lead to the exhaustion of the planet Earth resources[2]. Hilaire [1] https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/file/28307/DrGeo.app-11.03.zip [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rebound_effect_(conservation) -- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu

March 10, 2018

Base58/Base58Check encoder package

by Esteban A. Maringolo

I created a small utility class `Base58Encoder` that allows you to encode/decode ByteArrays to/from Base58 and Base58Check. For more information: https://github.com/eMaringolo/pharo-base58 Regards, Esteban A. Maringolo

March 10, 2018

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Cruiser: A Pharo app packager

by Stephane Ducasse

I'm brainstorming: - The user should be able to specify another icon for the App - The name of the app Stef On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 9:14 PM, <Vincent.Blondeau(a)lamresearch.com> wrote: > > > > > *From:* Pharo-users [mailto:pharo-users-bounces@lists.pharo.org] *On > Behalf Of *Stephane Ducasse > *Sent:* Friday, March 9, 2018 12:04 > *To:* Any question about pharo is welcome <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> > *Subject:* Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Cruiser: A Pharo app packager > > > > Hi guys > > > > what do you expect from a deploy app? > > > > @vincent > > - can you block resize of the main window > > > > It should be possible, but it is not yet implemented: https://github.com/ > VincentBlondeau/Cruiser/issues/1 > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 9:02 PM, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > Hi vincent > > > > Cool > > > > can we > > - remove the menu > > Which one? The world one the answer is yes > > > > - define new action on error > > -- like zip the stack > > -- send an email? > > > > Nope: https://github.com/VincentBlondeau/Cruiser/issues/2 > > > > - Do you generate a kind of bat? > > > > Not yet, https://github.com/VincentBlondeau/Cruiser/issues/3 > > > > - rename of the image? > > Yes > > - hide the fact that it is a pharo image/exec? > > There is a .image file and a .exe but that can be hidden with the .bat file > > > > Vincent > > > > Stef > > > > > > On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 8:29 PM, <Vincent.Blondeau(a)lamresearch.com> wrote: > > Hi Pharoers! > > > > I pleased to announce you the first release of Cruiser: a tool to package > your Pharo applications. The idea is to quickly convert an application from > a development environment to a production one. A production environment > means: > > Â· No writing on the disk > > Â· No access to the source code (by the shortcuts, debugger,...) > > Â· No error displaying on the interface > > Â· The only thing accessible is the user application > > > > I let you discover it on: https://github.com/VincentBlondeau/Cruiser > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_VincentBlon…> > > > > > > Do not hesitate to ask me questions or contribute to improve it! > > > > Cheers, > > > > > *Vincent Blondeau *Software Engineer, Software and Controls | Global > Product Group > Desk +1 510.572.7499 <(510)%20572-7499> > > > > *Lam Research Corporation *4650 Cushing Pkwy, Fremont, CA 94538 USA > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__maps.google.com_-3Fq-3…> > | www.lamresearch.com > Connect with Lam Research: Facebook > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.facebook.com_LamRe…> > | Twitter > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__twitter.com_lamresearc…> > | LinkedIn > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.linkedin.com_compa…> > ------------------------------ > > > > NOTICE: This e-mail transmission may contain confidential information. If > you are not the intended recipient, or a person responsible for delivering > it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, > copying, distribution or use of any of the information contained in or > attached to this message is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you have received this > transmission in error, please immediately notify the sender and destroy the > original transmission and its attachments without reading them or saving > them to disk. Thank you. > > > > >

March 9, 2018

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Cruiser: A Pharo app packager

by Vincent.Blondeau＠lamresearch.com

From: Pharo-users [mailto:pharo-users-bounces@lists.pharo.org] On Behalf Of Stephane Ducasse Sent: Friday, March 9, 2018 12:04 To: Any question about pharo is welcome <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Cruiser: A Pharo app packager Hi guys what do you expect from a deploy app? @vincent - can you block resize of the main window It should be possible, but it is not yet implemented: https://github.com/VincentBlondeau/Cruiser/issues/1 On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 9:02 PM, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self(a)gmail.com<mailto:stepharo.self@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi vincent Cool can we - remove the menu Which one? The world one the answer is yes - define new action on error -- like zip the stack -- send an email? Nope: https://github.com/VincentBlondeau/Cruiser/issues/2 - Do you generate a kind of bat? Not yet, https://github.com/VincentBlondeau/Cruiser/issues/3 - rename of the image? Yes - hide the fact that it is a pharo image/exec? There is a .image file and a .exe but that can be hidden with the .bat file Vincent Stef On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 8:29 PM, <Vincent.Blondeau(a)lamresearch.com<mailto:Vincent.Blondeau@lamresearch.com>> wrote: Hi Pharoers! I pleased to announce you the first release of Cruiser: a tool to package your Pharo applications. The idea is to quickly convert an application from a development environment to a production one. A production environment means: Â· No writing on the disk Â· No access to the source code (by the shortcuts, debugger,...) Â· No error displaying on the interface Â· The only thing accessible is the user application I let you discover it on: https://github.com/VincentBlondeau/Cruiser<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_VincentBlon…> [cid:image001.png@01D3B79F.73AAE8E0] Do not hesitate to ask me questions or contribute to improve it! Cheers, Vincent Blondeau Software Engineer, Software and Controls | Global Product Group Desk +1 510.572.7499<tel:(510)%20572-7499> Lam Research Corporation 4650 Cushing Pkwy, Fremont, CA 94538 USA<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__maps.google.com_-3Fq-3…> | www.lamresearch.com<http://www.lamresearch.com> Connect with Lam Research: Facebook<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.facebook.com_LamRe…> | Twitter<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__twitter.com_lamresearc…> | LinkedIn<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.linkedin.com_compa…> ________________________________ NOTICE: This e-mail transmission may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, or a person responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of any of the information contained in or attached to this message is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you have received this transmission in error, please immediately notify the sender and destroy the original transmission and its attachments without reading them or saving them to disk. Thank you.

March 9, 2018