March 2018 - Pharo-users - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] Something is happening...

by Peter UhnÃ¡k

Excellent, thank you! Peter On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 10:14 AM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > > On 14 Mar 2018, at 09:56, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > > > On 14 Mar 2018, at 09:51, Peter UhnÃ¡k <i.uhnak(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > just couple minor details I've noticed: > > I'm looking at website, and it says Jan 2018 twice. > > 02/01/2018 - Pharo Newsletter Jan 2018 > 01/10/2018 - Pharo Newsletter Jan 2018 > > > Yes, this is a mistake that I did and I do now know if I can fix it (and > how). The newsletter had the correct subject, but > the âcampaignâ the wrong name. > > I will contact Mailchimp support. We have so many subscribers that we have > to pay $20 each month now, but in turn this means we get support. > > Also going inside the newsletter, it doesn't actually say for what what > period it is, e.g. https://us11.campaign-archive.com/?u= > 6f667565c2569234585a7be77&id=429297434e I would expect a title "Pharo > Newsletter Jan 2018" or something like that --- this doesn't matter when it > arrives my inbox, but looking back at the older mails it is not clear from > the content when it was (but maybe it is intentional). > > Ah, ok. Yes, I will add a header in the future. > > I added it already to the March Newsletter. > > Marcus > >

March 14, 2018

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] Something is happening...

by Marcus Denker

> On 14 Mar 2018, at 09:56, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > > >> On 14 Mar 2018, at 09:51, Peter UhnÃ¡k <i.uhnak(a)gmail.com <mailto:i.uhnak@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> just couple minor details I've noticed: >> >> I'm looking at website, and it says Jan 2018 twice. >> >> 02/01/2018 - Pharo Newsletter Jan 2018 >> 01/10/2018 - Pharo Newsletter Jan 2018 >> > > Yes, this is a mistake that I did and I do now know if I can fix it (and how). The newsletter had the correct subject, but > the âcampaignâ the wrong name. > I will contact Mailchimp support. We have so many subscribers that we have to pay $20 each month now, but in turn this means we get support. >> Also going inside the newsletter, it doesn't actually say for what what period it is, e.g. https://us11.campaign-archive.com/?u=6f667565c2569234585a7be77&id=429297434e <https://us11.campaign-archive.com/?u=6f667565c2569234585a7be77&id=429297434e> I would expect a title "Pharo Newsletter Jan 2018" or something like that --- this doesn't matter when it arrives my inbox, but looking back at the older mails it is not clear from the content when it was (but maybe it is intentional). >> > Ah, ok. Yes, I will add a header in the future. I added it already to the March Newsletter. Marcus

March 14, 2018

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] Something is happening...

by Marcus Denker

> On 14 Mar 2018, at 09:51, Peter UhnÃ¡k <i.uhnak(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > just couple minor details I've noticed: > > I'm looking at website, and it says Jan 2018 twice. > > 02/01/2018 - Pharo Newsletter Jan 2018 > 01/10/2018 - Pharo Newsletter Jan 2018 > Yes, this is a mistake that I did and I do now know if I can fix it (and how). The newsletter had the correct subject, but the âcampaignâ the wrong name. > Also going inside the newsletter, it doesn't actually say for what what period it is, e.g. https://us11.campaign-archive.com/?u=6f667565c2569234585a7be77&id=429297434e <https://us11.campaign-archive.com/?u=6f667565c2569234585a7be77&id=429297434e> I would expect a title "Pharo Newsletter Jan 2018" or something like that --- this doesn't matter when it arrives my inbox, but looking back at the older mails it is not clear from the content when it was (but maybe it is intentional). > Ah, ok. Yes, I will add a header in the future. Marcus > Peter > > On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 9:08 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com <mailto:tudor@tudorgirba.com>> wrote: > This might be how super linear growth feels like once you pass the bending point. > > Doru > > > > On Mar 13, 2018, at 8:27 AM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr <mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr>> wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > There is something odd happeningâ¦ or better: There is *a lot* happening. > > > > Just one example: for the Newsletter, the original idea was to send out once a month a post with 3 things, some of them recycled (e.g. pointers to existing projects, re-use âsuccess storiesâ, things like that. > > > > Now already some months ago I had to add âand here are some other interesting announcements, blog posts, videosâ. > > > > But this month, the list of things for the newsletter TODO list contains over 60 entries. With the exception of maybe 5, these are just things that happened between sending the February newsletter and today. > > > > Newsletter March should be ready till this thursday, I hope, subscribe or read the oder ones here: http://newsletter.pharo.org <http://newsletter.pharo.org/> > > > > Marcus > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com <http://www.tudorgirba.com/> > www.feenk.com <http://www.feenk.com/> > > "Value is always contextual." > > > > > >

March 14, 2018

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] Something is happening...

by Peter UhnÃ¡k

Hi, just couple minor details I've noticed: I'm looking at website, and it says Jan 2018 twice. 02/01/2018 - Pharo Newsletter Jan 2018 01/10/2018 - Pharo Newsletter Jan 2018 Also going inside the newsletter, it doesn't actually say for what what period it is, e.g. https://us11.campaign-archive.com/?u=6f667565c2569234585a7be77&id=429297434e I would expect a title "Pharo Newsletter Jan 2018" or something like that --- this doesn't matter when it arrives my inbox, but looking back at the older mails it is not clear from the content when it was (but maybe it is intentional). Peter On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 9:08 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: > This might be how super linear growth feels like once you pass the bending > point. > > Doru > > > > On Mar 13, 2018, at 8:27 AM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> > wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > There is something odd happeningâ¦ or better: There is *a lot* happening. > > > > Just one example: for the Newsletter, the original idea was to send out > once a month a post with 3 things, some of them recycled (e.g. pointers to > existing projects, re-use âsuccess storiesâ, things like that. > > > > Now already some months ago I had to add âand here are some other > interesting announcements, blog posts, videosâ. > > > > But this month, the list of things for the newsletter TODO list contains > over 60 entries. With the exception of maybe 5, these are just things that > happened between sending the February newsletter and today. > > > > Newsletter March should be ready till this thursday, I hope, subscribe > or read the oder ones here: http://newsletter.pharo.org > > > > Marcus > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > www.feenk.com > > "Value is always contextual." > > > > > >

March 14, 2018

Re: [Pharo-users] Something is happening...

by Marcus Denker

> On 13 Mar 2018, at 08:27, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > Hi, > > There is something odd happeningâ¦ or better: There is *a lot* happening. > > Just one example: for the Newsletter, the original idea was to send out once a month a post with 3 things, some of them recycled (e.g. pointers to existing projects, re-use âsuccess storiesâ, things like that. > > Now already some months ago I had to add âand here are some other interesting announcements, blog posts, videosâ. > > But this month, the list of things for the newsletter TODO list contains over 60 entries. With the exception of maybe 5, these are just things that happened between sending the February newsletter and today. > > Newsletter March should be ready till this thursday, I hope, subscribe or read the oder ones here: http://newsletter.pharo.org <http://newsletter.pharo.org/> > Newsletter is doneâ¦ will be send out by the system at 3pm local time. This time it took a while to go through all the linksâ¦ it is still odd that all this is just Feb 1 to now. Marcus

March 14, 2018

Re: [Pharo-users] Ever growing image

by Tudor Girba

Thanks! Doru > On Mar 13, 2018, at 8:24 PM, Guillermo Polito <guillermopolito(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > I'll take a look at this from tomorrow morning till the end of the week. > > On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 7:22 PM, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hilaire > > I do not have the answer and I do not know but you should have a look > at the bash script. > Because this is where the logic is. I will discuss tomorrow with > guille (right now I'm sick). > Stef > > On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 9:34 PM, Hilaire <hilaire(a)drgeo.eu> wrote: > > Le 12/03/2018 Ã 10:16, Guillermo Polito a Ã©crit : > >> > >> That said, I would also like to have a smaller and more malleable system, > >> in that I agree with you, but that takes time and work, and I see few people > >> that is diving in the insides of Pharo to help get us something in that > >> direction. Not because they don't care but because it is difficult and time > >> consuming. > > > > > > Which direction should I follow after building a boostrap image following > > these instructions > > https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo#bootstrapping-pharo-from-sources ? > > > > > > -- > > Dr. Geo > > http://drgeo.eu > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Guille Polito > Research Engineer > > Centre de Recherche en Informatique, Signal et Automatique de Lille > CRIStAL - UMR 9189 > French National Center for Scientific Research - http://www.cnrs.fr > > Web: http://guillep.github.io > Phone: +33 06 52 70 66 13 -- www.tudorgirba.com www.feenk.com "Sometimes the best solution is not the best solution."

March 14, 2018

Re: [Pharo-users] State of Tide / Amber ?

by in_pharo_users＠nym.hush.com

Hi Esteban, nice to meet you online. I saw your presentation on UTube. I found your concept quite intriguing, so I wonder why no one else is interested - besides the notorious lack of popularity that Smalltalk is cursed with, to the unreasonable great benefit of it's fugly spin-offs. I want to check it out, plus, I want to see the new lean CMS that you underpinned it with. Have you encountered or envisioned any drawbacks of your concept, that would hamper any techniques neccessary in contemporary web app programming? Kind regards, basket On 13.3.2018 at 4:49 PM, "Esteban Lorenzano" wrote: On 13 Mar 2018, at 16:06, in_pharo_users(a)nym.hush.com wrote: Dear List, I was trying to set up Tide / Amber. I found a Tide version for Pharo 3, but optimistically I tryed to set it up with Pharo 6. Then I went to 5, 4, and then I used 3. I set Tide up according to the instructions, and well, the JSON interface seemed to work fine. This may not be the concern of this list: Then I tried to get Amber running, but I failed. I found no description thatI was able to follow to success. What is the state of Tide? Is it still actively supported, or has it either vanished into a proprietary enterprise or been abandoned? If it went to proprieary, is a successor still available? Has it been abandoned in relation to technical or other shortcomings of the concept? Can anyone help me to get Tide running on Pharo 6? hi, AFAIK, nobody is actively using it (and I should know, since I was one of the developers). Now, the general idea and implementation of Tide was simple and it shouldnât be much work to make it run on Pharo 6.1 (somethings changed, but I do not think too much in that area). There is still the problem around Amber, but thatâs more a question for Amber list, I have no idea of its current status (and on how the amber part of tide would work). cheers!Esteban Kind regards, basket

March 13, 2018

Re: [Pharo-users] Help Petit Parse

by Pau Guillot

Thank you both, Pau -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html

March 13, 2018

Re: [Pharo-users] Ever growing image

by Guillermo Polito

I'll take a look at this from tomorrow morning till the end of the week. On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 7:22 PM, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hilaire > > I do not have the answer and I do not know but you should have a look > at the bash script. > Because this is where the logic is. I will discuss tomorrow with > guille (right now I'm sick). > Stef > > On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 9:34 PM, Hilaire <hilaire(a)drgeo.eu> wrote: > > Le 12/03/2018 Ã 10:16, Guillermo Polito a Ã©crit : > >> > >> That said, I would also like to have a smaller and more malleable > system, > >> in that I agree with you, but that takes time and work, and I see few > people > >> that is diving in the insides of Pharo to help get us something in that > >> direction. Not because they don't care but because it is difficult and > time > >> consuming. > > > > > > Which direction should I follow after building a boostrap image following > > these instructions > > https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo#bootstrapping-pharo-from-sources > ? > > > > > > -- > > Dr. Geo > > http://drgeo.eu > > > > > > > > -- Guille Polito Research Engineer Centre de Recherche en Informatique, Signal et Automatique de Lille CRIStAL - UMR 9189 French National Center for Scientific Research - *http://www.cnrs.fr <http://www.cnrs.fr>* *Web:* *http://guillep.github.io* <http://guillep.github.io> *Phone: *+33 06 52 70 66 13

March 13, 2018

Re: [Pharo-users] Packaging question

by Guillermo Polito

Well, one baseline with many groups or many baselines would like... From a metacello perspective, I'd do one baseline with several groups, because if both are in the same repo, there is no nice way to reference each other, other than hardcoding paths. On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 8:19 PM, Gabriel Cotelli <g.cotelli(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I will use one Baseline with several groups. And choose to load by default > (if only runtime support or runtime plus generator) > > On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 3:02 PM, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self(a)gmail.com > > wrote: > >> Hi >> >> I'm developing a small library named Chrysal (to be announced when >> ready - the successor of Cocoon) that supports configuration files >> (and conversion of strings into our lovely objects). >> >> The idea is that based on description objects, a class is generated >> statically with all the conversion logic. >> Now a configuration for an App is a subclass of one minimal class >> called ChrysalConfiguration. >> and this class is packaged into the ChrysalRuntime package this is the >> only thing needed (I could remove it by automatically recompiling even >> more code but looks a bit terrible at the end). >> >> Now my question. >> Should I propose two BaselineOfs? One for the Generator and one for the >> Runtime? >> I thought so. And generator should depend on the runtime. >> >> Stef >> >> > -- Guille Polito Research Engineer Centre de Recherche en Informatique, Signal et Automatique de Lille CRIStAL - UMR 9189 French National Center for Scientific Research - *http://www.cnrs.fr <http://www.cnrs.fr>* *Web:* *http://guillep.github.io* <http://guillep.github.io> *Phone: *+33 06 52 70 66 13

March 13, 2018