February 2018 - Pharo-users

Cleanup of LDAP for Pharo 6/7

by Torsten Bergmann

Just as an info: the LDAP packages from http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~PharoExtras/LDAP had no method categorization and missing class comments and was not updated since Pharo 4. I took some minutes today to clean this up and I also added a new baseline/version not loading Zinc (as this is already included) for Pharo 6 and 7. The latest config is now also in MetaRepoForPharo60 and with that should be available for catalog tomorrow for easy consumption after the catalog indexer runs. Thx Torsten/astares

Feb. 22, 2018

Re: [Pharo-users] Roassal : Playing with the contrast

by Alexandre Bergel

Yes, I had a look at it. Indeed, it provides a nice set of utility methods. By the way, what the class ColorChecker does? I will make a plugin for it in Roassal. Alexandre > On Feb 21, 2018, at 5:32 PM, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Alex you should look at my package because it can be useful to roassal. > > > On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 9:05 PM, Alexandre Bergel > <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: >> Wellâ¦ you can change the color of any element (even if the visualization is open). >> Simply goes to the canvas and change the trachel shape. I can provide an example if you wish. >> >> Alexandre >> >> >> >>> On Feb 21, 2018, at 8:38 AM, abdelghani ALIDRA <alidrandco(a)yahoo.fr> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Alex and thanks for your answer, >>> By playing with the contrast I mean to change (dynamically) how visible lighter colors are from darker ones. And by dynamically, I mean I dont want to re-build the visu. >>> >>> To be more specific, I can have for a certain visu, a shape coloured with Color red and bordered with Color red slightlyDarker. >>> At some point I would like to see the difference between these two colours and at some other point I dont. >>> So for instance, I increase the contrast and I see the border of the shape them I decrease it then I see the shape uniformaly coloured. >>> >>> So, is there a way to do so? >>> Thanks, >>> Abdelghani >>> >>> >>> De : Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> >>> Ã : abdelghani ALIDRA <alidrandco(a)yahoo.fr>; Any question about pharo is welcome <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> >>> EnvoyÃ© le : Mercredi 21 fÃ©vrier 2018 2h19 >>> Objet : Re: [Pharo-users] Roassal : Playing with the contrast >>> >>> Hi! >>> >>> What do you mean with contrasts? You mean the colors? >>> Currently, there is no way to automatically assign colors to a visualization, although you can use a color palette (look at the class RTPalette). >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Alexandre >>> >>> >>>> On Feb 20, 2018, at 7:01 AM, abdelghani ALIDRA via Pharo-users <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> From: abdelghani ALIDRA <alidrandco(a)yahoo.fr> >>>> Subject: Roassal : Playing with the contrast >>>> Date: February 20, 2018 at 7:01:20 AM GMT-3 >>>> To: "pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org" <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> >>>> Reply-To: abdelghani ALIDRA <alidrandco(a)yahoo.fr> >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I am wondering if there is a way to play with the contrast of Roassal visualisations. >>>> If so, please tell me how :) >>>> >>>> Thank you in advance >>>> Abdelghani >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >

Feb. 22, 2018

Re: [Pharo-users] Roassal : Playing with the contrast

by Stephane Ducasse

Alex you should look at my package because it can be useful to roassal. On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 9:05 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: > Wellâ¦ you can change the color of any element (even if the visualization is open). > Simply goes to the canvas and change the trachel shape. I can provide an example if you wish. > > Alexandre > > > >> On Feb 21, 2018, at 8:38 AM, abdelghani ALIDRA <alidrandco(a)yahoo.fr> wrote: >> >> Hi Alex and thanks for your answer, >> By playing with the contrast I mean to change (dynamically) how visible lighter colors are from darker ones. And by dynamically, I mean I dont want to re-build the visu. >> >> To be more specific, I can have for a certain visu, a shape coloured with Color red and bordered with Color red slightlyDarker. >> At some point I would like to see the difference between these two colours and at some other point I dont. >> So for instance, I increase the contrast and I see the border of the shape them I decrease it then I see the shape uniformaly coloured. >> >> So, is there a way to do so? >> Thanks, >> Abdelghani >> >> >> De : Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> >> Ã : abdelghani ALIDRA <alidrandco(a)yahoo.fr>; Any question about pharo is welcome <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> >> EnvoyÃ© le : Mercredi 21 fÃ©vrier 2018 2h19 >> Objet : Re: [Pharo-users] Roassal : Playing with the contrast >> >> Hi! >> >> What do you mean with contrasts? You mean the colors? >> Currently, there is no way to automatically assign colors to a visualization, although you can use a color palette (look at the class RTPalette). >> >> Cheers, >> Alexandre >> >> >> > On Feb 20, 2018, at 7:01 AM, abdelghani ALIDRA via Pharo-users <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> wrote: >> > >> > >> > From: abdelghani ALIDRA <alidrandco(a)yahoo.fr> >> > Subject: Roassal : Playing with the contrast >> > Date: February 20, 2018 at 7:01:20 AM GMT-3 >> > To: "pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org" <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> >> > Reply-To: abdelghani ALIDRA <alidrandco(a)yahoo.fr> >> > >> > >> > Hi, >> > >> > I am wondering if there is a way to play with the contrast of Roassal visualisations. >> > If so, please tell me how :) >> > >> > Thank you in advance >> > Abdelghani >> > >> > >> > >> >> > >

Feb. 21, 2018

Re: [Pharo-users] Roassal : Playing with the contrast

by Alexandre Bergel

Wellâ¦ you can change the color of any element (even if the visualization is open). Simply goes to the canvas and change the trachel shape. I can provide an example if you wish. Alexandre > On Feb 21, 2018, at 8:38 AM, abdelghani ALIDRA <alidrandco(a)yahoo.fr> wrote: > > Hi Alex and thanks for your answer, > By playing with the contrast I mean to change (dynamically) how visible lighter colors are from darker ones. And by dynamically, I mean I dont want to re-build the visu. > > To be more specific, I can have for a certain visu, a shape coloured with Color red and bordered with Color red slightlyDarker. > At some point I would like to see the difference between these two colours and at some other point I dont. > So for instance, I increase the contrast and I see the border of the shape them I decrease it then I see the shape uniformaly coloured. > > So, is there a way to do so? > Thanks, > Abdelghani > > > De : Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> > Ã : abdelghani ALIDRA <alidrandco(a)yahoo.fr>; Any question about pharo is welcome <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> > EnvoyÃ© le : Mercredi 21 fÃ©vrier 2018 2h19 > Objet : Re: [Pharo-users] Roassal : Playing with the contrast > > Hi! > > What do you mean with contrasts? You mean the colors? > Currently, there is no way to automatically assign colors to a visualization, although you can use a color palette (look at the class RTPalette). > > Cheers, > Alexandre > > > > On Feb 20, 2018, at 7:01 AM, abdelghani ALIDRA via Pharo-users <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> wrote: > > > > > > From: abdelghani ALIDRA <alidrandco(a)yahoo.fr> > > Subject: Roassal : Playing with the contrast > > Date: February 20, 2018 at 7:01:20 AM GMT-3 > > To: "pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org" <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> > > Reply-To: abdelghani ALIDRA <alidrandco(a)yahoo.fr> > > > > > > Hi, > > > > I am wondering if there is a way to play with the contrast of Roassal visualisations. > > If so, please tell me how :) > > > > Thank you in advance > > Abdelghani > > > > > > > >

Feb. 21, 2018

Re: [Pharo-users] Roassal : Playing with the contrast

by abdelghani ALIDRA

Hi Stef, It looks great. I will have a look and use for our work. CheersAbdelghani DeÂ : Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self(a)gmail.com> ÃÂ : abdelghani ALIDRA <alidrandco(a)yahoo.fr>; Any question about pharo is welcome <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> EnvoyÃ© le : Mercredi 21 fÃ©vrier 2018 10h15 ObjetÂ : Re: [Pharo-users] Roassal : Playing with the contrast Abdel have a look at the package I did, it provides more named colors + queries to select colors based on colors or intensity. May be we should introduce the couple of methods I created into Pharo. I did it thinking about your work with Moussa. It could be useful for Roassal people. Now they should let me know. I spent time harvesting all the definitions, queries, cleaning everything. But I will not push further. May be having some bad default colors is good for other people, but not me :). Stef On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 10:13 AM, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Abdel > > > MCSmalltalkhubRepository > owner: 'StephaneDucasse' > project: 'Colors' > user: '' > password: '' > > On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 11:01 AM, abdelghani ALIDRA via Pharo-users > <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> wrote: >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: abdelghani ALIDRA <alidrandco(a)yahoo.fr> >> To: "pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org" <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> >> Cc: >> Bcc: >> Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2018 10:01:20 +0000 (UTC) >> Subject: Roassal : Playing with the contrast >> Hi, >> >> I am wondering if there is a way to play with the contrast of Roassal visualisations. >> If so, please tell me how :) >> >> Thank you in advance >> Abdelghani >> >>

Feb. 21, 2018

Re: [Pharo-users] Roassal : Playing with the contrast

by abdelghani ALIDRA

Hi Alex and thanks for your answer,By playing with the contrast I mean to change (dynamically) how visible lighter colors are from darker ones. And by dynamically, I mean I dont want to re-build the visu. To be more specific, I can have for a certain visu, a shape coloured with Color red and bordered with Color red slightlyDarker.At some point I would like to see the difference between these two colours and at some other point I dont. So for instance, I increase the contrast and I see the border of the shape them I decrease it then I see the shape uniformaly coloured. So, is there a way to do so?Thanks,Abdelghani DeÂ : Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> ÃÂ : abdelghani ALIDRA <alidrandco(a)yahoo.fr>; Any question about pharo is welcome <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> EnvoyÃ© le : Mercredi 21 fÃ©vrier 2018 2h19 ObjetÂ : Re: [Pharo-users] Roassal : Playing with the contrast Hi! What do you mean with contrasts? You mean the colors? Currently, there is no way to automatically assign colors to a visualization, although you can use a color palette (look at the class RTPalette). Cheers, Alexandre > On Feb 20, 2018, at 7:01 AM, abdelghani ALIDRA via Pharo-users <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> wrote: > > > From: abdelghani ALIDRA <alidrandco(a)yahoo.fr> > Subject: Roassal : Playing with the contrast > Date: February 20, 2018 at 7:01:20 AM GMT-3 > To: "pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org" <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> > Reply-To: abdelghani ALIDRA <alidrandco(a)yahoo.fr> > > > Hi, > > I am wondering if there is a way to play with the contrast of Roassal visualisations. > If so, please tell me how :) > > Thank you in advance > Abdelghani > > >

Feb. 21, 2018

custom pre-debug window?

by Peter UhnÃ¡k

Hi, has anyone investigated creating a custom pre-debug window? I would like to have a user-friendlier one (for end-users), but it seems that the current one is hard-coded? Thanks, Peter

Feb. 21, 2018

Re: [Pharo-users] Roassal : Playing with the contrast

by Stephane Ducasse

Abdel have a look at the package I did, it provides more named colors + queries to select colors based on colors or intensity. May be we should introduce the couple of methods I created into Pharo. I did it thinking about your work with Moussa. It could be useful for Roassal people. Now they should let me know. I spent time harvesting all the definitions, queries, cleaning everything. But I will not push further. May be having some bad default colors is good for other people, but not me :). Stef On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 10:13 AM, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Abdel > > > MCSmalltalkhubRepository > owner: 'StephaneDucasse' > project: 'Colors' > user: '' > password: '' > > On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 11:01 AM, abdelghani ALIDRA via Pharo-users > <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> wrote: >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: abdelghani ALIDRA <alidrandco(a)yahoo.fr> >> To: "pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org" <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> >> Cc: >> Bcc: >> Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2018 10:01:20 +0000 (UTC) >> Subject: Roassal : Playing with the contrast >> Hi, >> >> I am wondering if there is a way to play with the contrast of Roassal visualisations. >> If so, please tell me how :) >> >> Thank you in advance >> Abdelghani >> >>

Feb. 21, 2018

Re: [Pharo-users] Roassal : Playing with the contrast

by Stephane Ducasse

Abdel MCSmalltalkhubRepository owner: 'StephaneDucasse' project: 'Colors' user: '' password: '' On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 11:01 AM, abdelghani ALIDRA via Pharo-users <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> wrote: > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: abdelghani ALIDRA <alidrandco(a)yahoo.fr> > To: "pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org" <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2018 10:01:20 +0000 (UTC) > Subject: Roassal : Playing with the contrast > Hi, > > I am wondering if there is a way to play with the contrast of Roassal visualisations. > If so, please tell me how :) > > Thank you in advance > Abdelghani > >

Feb. 21, 2018

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] PI

by HernÃ¡n Morales Durand

Hi John, 2018-02-21 2:10 GMT-03:00 john pfersich <jpfersich(a)gmail.com>: > I tried it, this time with > > pi install OSProcess OSProcess-Examples > I tried looking at http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/JohnPfersich/OSProcess-Examples but there is no Configuration of OSProcess-Examples. PI only works at Configuration level and not with individual packages. It could be implemented of course but didn't had time to check if there is a command line handler for installing a package. > in case there was something wrong with BioSmalltalk > > but I got the same result. > > log is at > https://objectnets-0001.ams3.digitaloceanspaces.com/test2.log > The command line handler I used was wrong, it was missing the "install=" parameter but somehow it worked with other configurations. Now I fixed and by default only installs stable versions. If you want to install development versions this is not done yet. I saw pip uses --pre for pre-release versions, like development versions. $ pip install --pre SomePackage but it seems in this mode you should know the specific version to pass: SomePackage>=3.1 (a Python user could confirm?) I'm not convinced, is not fun to track development package versions if you have to install dozens of packages. Also one could want to install the development versions of everything, or bleeding edge, etc. Definitely needs more testing! Thank you for your feedback. Cheers, HernÃ¡n > On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 8:39 PM, john pfersich <jpfersich(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I tried running >> >> pi install BioSmalltalk >> >> again and it failed. >> >> log is at >> https://objectnets-0001.ams3.digitaloceanspaces.com/biost2.log >> >> On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 2:56 PM, HernÃ¡n Morales Durand >> <hernan.morales(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Esteban >>> >>> 2018-02-19 10:51 GMT-03:00 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>: >>> > hi, >>> > this is also a good moment to remember all that you have the command >>> > âgetâ in Pharo. >>> > >>> > ./pharo Pharo.image get Seaside3 >>> > >>> > will install into the image the Seaside3 configuration from the >>> > catalog. >>> > >>> >>> Please note that this is different from command line handlers. >>> >>> The idea is to have a very simple and small CLI tool (10 KB script >>> now) for Pharo like: >>> >>> pip install SomePackage >>> apt-get install SomePackage >>> yum install SomePackage >>> brew install SomePackage >>> gem install SomePackage >>> npm install SomePackage >>> etc >>> >>> and support packages transparently in Catalog, SmalltalkHub or GitHub. >>> >>> Actually PI tries to install first from Catalog and if failed to find >>> the package, then install from SmalltalkHub. Installing a package from >>> GitHub could be possible if an annotated/tagged script is included >>> inside the README.md page, what do you think? >>> >>> We could work together to get a better connection with command line >>> handlers. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> HernÃ¡n >>> >>> >>> > cheers! >>> > Esteban >>> > >>> >> On 19 Feb 2018, at 13:44, Esteban A. Maringolo <emaringolo(a)gmail.com> >>> >> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> Hi Hernan, >>> >> >>> >> It's not clear to me where the install happens. In the first available >>> >> image file at the same working directory where you executed the pi >>> >> command? >>> >> >>> >> Also, I'd make it case-insensitive, and only complain if there is an >>> >> ambiguity in some name (which I think there isn't). >>> >> >>> >> Thanks again! >>> >> >>> >> Esteban A. Maringolo >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> 2018-02-18 17:12 GMT-03:00 HernÃ¡n Morales Durand >>> >> <hernan.morales(a)gmail.com>: >>> >>> Thanks, please let me know issues or ideas for enhacements. >>> >>> >>> >>> I just uploaded a new version adding a search packages feature, >>> >>> supporting both GitHub and SmalltalkHub repositories. >>> >>> >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> >>> >>> HernÃ¡n >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> 2018-02-18 5:12 GMT-03:00 john pfersich <jpfersich(a)gmail.com>: >>> >>>> Congrats! Looks really useful. Canât wait to try it out. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> Encrypted email at jgpfersich(a)protonmail.com >>> >>>> >>> >>>>> On Feb 17, 2018, at 23:23, HernÃ¡n Morales Durand >>> >>>>> <hernan.morales(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> Hi, >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> PI is a MIT-pip-like command line program for Pharo Smalltalk. PI >>> >>>>> stands for Pharo Install. It is written in bash and tested >>> >>>>> successfully under MSYS and GNU/Linux. >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> Look for details in the GitHub repository: >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> https://github.com/hernanmd/pi >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> Try and play around, if you found any bugs or want to integrate new >>> >>>>> feature, feel free to submit PR. >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> Cheers, >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> HernÃ¡n >>> >>>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >>> > >>> > >>> >> >

Feb. 21, 2018