February 2018 - Pharo-users

Re: [Pharo-users] Workspace/Playground behavior change for unknown "bindings"?

by Ben Coman

On 7 February 2018 at 05:35, Holger Freyther <holger(a)freyther.de> wrote: > Hey, > > I recently showed Pharo to a friend and one thing I like doing is to open a playground/workspace and then write and execute: > > > Person new > name: '...'; > age: 2342; > yourself > > In old versions of Pharo I would get a popup like "Person" not known and asking me if I want to create a class. In Pharo6.1 I did get an error. Was this intentional? Intentional or not, thats a really simple quick demo that would be good make it possible. cheers -ben

Feb. 7, 2018

[ANN] sentry.io (OSS error tracking platform) SDK

by Peter UhnÃ¡k

I guess the subject should say [ANN] too... :) On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 10:55 PM, Peter UhnÃ¡k <i.uhnak(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > I've made an experimental SDK for sentry.io to track errors in end-user > installations. > > Also usable as a Logger for Beacon (which I guess should be the primary > way to use this). > > ... and as an extension for Debugger (basically a replacement for > ShoreLine, which is too simplistic for my needs). > > https://github.com/peteruhnak/pharo-sentry > > [image: Inline image 1] > > Peter >

Feb. 6, 2018

sentry.io (OSS error tracking platform) SDK

by Peter UhnÃ¡k

Hi, I've made an experimental SDK for sentry.io to track errors in end-user installations. Also usable as a Logger for Beacon (which I guess should be the primary way to use this). ... and as an extension for Debugger (basically a replacement for ShoreLine, which is too simplistic for my needs). https://github.com/peteruhnak/pharo-sentry [image: Inline image 1] Peter

Feb. 6, 2018

Workspace/Playground behavior change for unknown "bindings"?

by Holger Freyther

Hey, I recently showed Pharo to a friend and one thing I like doing is to open a playground/workspace and then write and execute: Person new name: '...'; age: 2342; yourself In old versions of Pharo I would get a popup like "Person" not known and asking me if I want to create a class. In Pharo6.1 I did get an error. Was this intentional? holger

Feb. 6, 2018

Re: [Pharo-users] From Roassal RTView to html

by Andrei Stebakov

As soon as I removed @ RTDraggable, it fixed the problem, silly me :) On Feb 6, 2018 2:57 PM, "Andrei Stebakov" <lispercat(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I debugged the JavaScript a little and there is a function in roassal.js > mousedown: function(e){ > this.rtmouseClick(e); > this.trmouseDragBegin(e); > } > I guess since the click takes me to a different tab, there is no > subsequent mouseUp/DragEnd events. > Naturally, if I remove trmouseDragBegin then the problem goes away but > the dragging obviously doesn't work. > So here we have a collision of a link click and mouse drag, so somehow we > need to enable one or the other. > > On Feb 6, 2018 2:37 PM, "Andrei Stebakov" <lispercat(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> The link clicking works (takes me to a different chrome tab link), but >> when I go back to the model page, the mouse movements cause the clicked >> element to move, same like before. >> >> On Feb 6, 2018 8:50 AM, "Alexandre Bergel" <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> >> wrote: >> >> Can you try to update Roassal via the world menu: >> >> >> >> Cheers, >> Alexandre >> >> >> On Feb 5, 2018, at 5:12 PM, Andrei Stebakov <lispercat(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Updated roassal via: >> Gofer new smalltalkhubUser: 'ObjectProfile' >> project: 'Roassal'; >> package: 'ConfigurationOfRoassal'; >> load. >> (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfRoassal) load >> >> The problems is still the same: added ".html" suffix. >> >> On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 3:09 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com >> > wrote: >> Andrei, let us know how it goes >> >> Cheers >> Alexandre >> >> EnvoyÃ© de mon iPad >> >> Le 5 fÃ©vr. 2018 Ã 16:51, milton mamani <akevalion(a)gmail.com> a Ã©crit : >> >> Your need to load the last version of roassal, I change it that >> >> 2018-02-05 16:44 GMT-03:00 Andrei Stebakov <lispercat(a)gmail.com>: >> Milton, thanks for the example. >> I wonder why the link it takes me to has an appended ".html" at the end >> like "https://twitter.com.html"? >> >> On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 12:55 PM, milton mamani <akevalion(a)gmail.com> w >> rote: >> Hi Andrei, >> >> This is some example. >> >> Let me know if this is what you want. >> >> Run this in a playground with the last version of roassal: >> >> >> .=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=. >> .=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=. >> >> b := RTMondrian new. >> b shape text color: [Color random]. >> b nodes: { 'https://facebook.com'. 'https://twitter.com'. ' >> https://plus.google.com' }. >> b build. >> link := RTLinkView new >> name: [ :model | model ] "#yourself"; >> view: nil. >> b view elements @ link. >> >> RTHTML5Exporter new >> fileName: 'roassalfile.html'; >> export: b view. >> b view >> >> .=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=. >> .=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=. >> >> Best regards, >> Milton >> >> >> >> >> >> 2018-02-05 14:16 GMT-03:00 Andrei Stebakov <lispercat(a)gmail.com>: >> I'll try to find if there is a way to embed a clickable interaction. >> Looks like since there is no response to the topic, I was wondering if >> it's a non-pharo/roassal way to do it or it's just not so many people tried >> it. >> >> On Sat, Feb 3, 2018 at 5:42 AM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com >> > wrote: >> Hi Milton, >> >> Can you answer to Andrei please? >> I know in Roassal there is a way to embed clickable interaction. >> >> Cheers, >> Alexandre >> >> Begin forwarded message: >> >> From: Andrei Stebakov <lispercat(a)gmail.com> >> Subject: [Pharo-users] From Roassal RTView to html >> Date: February 2, 2018 at 1:53:50 PM GMT-3 >> To: Any question about pharo is welcome <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> >> Reply-To: Any question about pharo is welcome < >> pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> >> >> I was wondering if it's a good idea to expose some of the Roassal models >> via web (say Seaside) using the ability of Roassal to generate HTML for the >> view. >> In this case how could I "spice up" the HTML making for example those >> ellipces or lablels clickabe so the click could take me to some web page >> bases on the data in the model? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>

Feb. 6, 2018

Re: [Pharo-users] From Roassal RTView to html

by Andrei Stebakov

I debugged the JavaScript a little and there is a function in roassal.js mousedown: function(e){ this.rtmouseClick(e); this.trmouseDragBegin(e); } I guess since the click takes me to a different tab, there is no subsequent mouseUp/DragEnd events. Naturally, if I remove trmouseDragBegin then the problem goes away but the dragging obviously doesn't work. So here we have a collision of a link click and mouse drag, so somehow we need to enable one or the other. On Feb 6, 2018 2:37 PM, "Andrei Stebakov" <lispercat(a)gmail.com> wrote: > The link clicking works (takes me to a different chrome tab link), but > when I go back to the model page, the mouse movements cause the clicked > element to move, same like before. > > On Feb 6, 2018 8:50 AM, "Alexandre Bergel" <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> > wrote: > > Can you try to update Roassal via the world menu: > > > > Cheers, > Alexandre > > > On Feb 5, 2018, at 5:12 PM, Andrei Stebakov <lispercat(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Updated roassal via: > Gofer new smalltalkhubUser: 'ObjectProfile' > project: 'Roassal'; > package: 'ConfigurationOfRoassal'; > load. > (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfRoassal) load > > The problems is still the same: added ".html" suffix. > > On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 3:09 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com > > wrote: > Andrei, let us know how it goes > > Cheers > Alexandre > > EnvoyÃ© de mon iPad > > Le 5 fÃ©vr. 2018 Ã 16:51, milton mamani <akevalion(a)gmail.com> a Ã©crit : > > Your need to load the last version of roassal, I change it that > > 2018-02-05 16:44 GMT-03:00 Andrei Stebakov <lispercat(a)gmail.com>: > Milton, thanks for the example. > I wonder why the link it takes me to has an appended ".html" at the end > like "https://twitter.com.html"? > > On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 12:55 PM, milton mamani <akevalion(a)gmail.com> w > rote: > Hi Andrei, > > This is some example. > > Let me know if this is what you want. > > Run this in a playground with the last version of roassal: > > > .=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=. > .=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=. > > b := RTMondrian new. > b shape text color: [Color random]. > b nodes: { 'https://facebook.com'. 'https://twitter.com'. ' > https://plus.google.com' }. > b build. > link := RTLinkView new > name: [ :model | model ] "#yourself"; > view: nil. > b view elements @ link. > > RTHTML5Exporter new > fileName: 'roassalfile.html'; > export: b view. > b view > > .=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=. > .=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=. > > Best regards, > Milton > > > > > > 2018-02-05 14:16 GMT-03:00 Andrei Stebakov <lispercat(a)gmail.com>: > I'll try to find if there is a way to embed a clickable interaction. > Looks like since there is no response to the topic, I was wondering if > it's a non-pharo/roassal way to do it or it's just not so many people tried > it. > > On Sat, Feb 3, 2018 at 5:42 AM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com > > wrote: > Hi Milton, > > Can you answer to Andrei please? > I know in Roassal there is a way to embed clickable interaction. > > Cheers, > Alexandre > > Begin forwarded message: > > From: Andrei Stebakov <lispercat(a)gmail.com> > Subject: [Pharo-users] From Roassal RTView to html > Date: February 2, 2018 at 1:53:50 PM GMT-3 > To: Any question about pharo is welcome <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> > Reply-To: Any question about pharo is welcome <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org > > > > I was wondering if it's a good idea to expose some of the Roassal models > via web (say Seaside) using the ability of Roassal to generate HTML for the > view. > In this case how could I "spice up" the HTML making for example those > ellipces or lablels clickabe so the click could take me to some web page > bases on the data in the model? > > > > > > > > > >

Feb. 6, 2018

Re: [Pharo-users] From Roassal RTView to html

by Andrei Stebakov

The link clicking works (takes me to a different chrome tab link), but when I go back to the model page, the mouse movements cause the clicked element to move, same like before. On Feb 6, 2018 8:50 AM, "Alexandre Bergel" <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: Can you try to update Roassal via the world menu: Cheers, Alexandre On Feb 5, 2018, at 5:12 PM, Andrei Stebakov <lispercat(a)gmail.com> wrote: Updated roassal via: Gofer new smalltalkhubUser: 'ObjectProfile' project: 'Roassal'; package: 'ConfigurationOfRoassal'; load. (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfRoassal) load The problems is still the same: added ".html" suffix. On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 3:09 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com > wrote: Andrei, let us know how it goes Cheers Alexandre EnvoyÃ© de mon iPad Le 5 fÃ©vr. 2018 Ã 16:51, milton mamani <akevalion(a)gmail.com> a Ã©crit : Your need to load the last version of roassal, I change it that 2018-02-05 16:44 GMT-03:00 Andrei Stebakov <lispercat(a)gmail.com>: Milton, thanks for the example. I wonder why the link it takes me to has an appended ".html" at the end like "https://twitter.com.html"? On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 12:55 PM, milton mamani <akevalion(a)gmail.com> wrote: Hi Andrei, This is some example. Let me know if this is what you want. Run this in a playground with the last version of roassal: .=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=. .=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=. b := RTMondrian new. b shape text color: [Color random]. b nodes: { 'https://facebook.com'. 'https://twitter.com'. ' https://plus.google.com' }. b build. link := RTLinkView new name: [ :model | model ] "#yourself"; view: nil. b view elements @ link. RTHTML5Exporter new fileName: 'roassalfile.html'; export: b view. b view .=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=. .=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=..=. Best regards, Milton 2018-02-05 14:16 GMT-03:00 Andrei Stebakov <lispercat(a)gmail.com>: I'll try to find if there is a way to embed a clickable interaction. Looks like since there is no response to the topic, I was wondering if it's a non-pharo/roassal way to do it or it's just not so many people tried it. On Sat, Feb 3, 2018 at 5:42 AM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com > wrote: Hi Milton, Can you answer to Andrei please? I know in Roassal there is a way to embed clickable interaction. Cheers, Alexandre Begin forwarded message: From: Andrei Stebakov <lispercat(a)gmail.com> Subject: [Pharo-users] From Roassal RTView to html Date: February 2, 2018 at 1:53:50 PM GMT-3 To: Any question about pharo is welcome <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> Reply-To: Any question about pharo is welcome <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> I was wondering if it's a good idea to expose some of the Roassal models via web (say Seaside) using the ability of Roassal to generate HTML for the view. In this case how could I "spice up" the HTML making for example those ellipces or lablels clickabe so the click could take me to some web page bases on the data in the model?

Feb. 6, 2018

Re: [Pharo-users] New booklets organisation and new booklet

by Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas

Hi HernÃ¡n, I think that LeanPub model[1] has a lot of sense for open source tech and its publications. As they say in their introductory videos in the home page[2][3], it will allow the author to improve the fitness between book as a product and audience as a market and there is a long history from "serial fiction". I certainly would like to test some of such ideas in the case of Grafoscopio powered publications, like the Data Driven Journalist Handbook[4] and some other booklets, for the next semester. [1] https://leanpub.com/ [2] https://youtu.be/ozO0kOnqmyA [3] https://youtu.be/ozO0kOnqmyA?t=831 [4] http://mutabit.com/repos.fossil/mapeda/ Cheers, Offray On 02/02/18 22:52, HernÃ¡n Morales Durand wrote: > Hi Stef, > > 2018-02-02 16:16 GMT-03:00 Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self(a)gmail.com>: >> On Fri, Feb 2, 2018 at 2:05 PM, HernÃ¡n Morales Durand >> <hernan.morales(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> One can make money by writing a Pharo-related book? >> Since most of the books I wrote are free I did not earn much. >> Most of the time if ESUG would not sponsor I would earn 200 Euros max. >> > Ok, please note that 200 euros is about half of the minimum salary at > least here: > > http://www.xe.com/currencyconverter/convert/?Amount=200&From=EUR&To=ARS > https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anexo:Salario_m%C3%ADnimo_en_Argentina > > And the min salary is an absolute crap. > Yes, that's how bad it is. > >> Now the association could sponsor book too. >> We could also create a bounty for booklets. >> I would love to read books or booklets written by others and I'm ready >> to pay for it. >> I would like to read a book on IA, Bloc, And many topics in fact. >> >>> It takes a significant amount of effort to write a book, you know >>> better of course. >>> >>> Is there a plan for monetization so people maybe gets more motivated >>> to write Pharo material? >> I'm planning to make my last book on lulu (it is there but I'm waiting >> for the first printout) >> and to offer a good reduction to the association members. >> >> Stef > Thank you for the reply. > > Let me know if you'd like to add a bioinformatics or geographic > information retrieval chapter. I wrote the chapters in Markdown for > pandoc but I can convert them to Pillar once it's ready for Windows. > > Cheers, > > HernÃ¡n > >>> Cheers, >>> >>> HernÃ¡n >>> >

Feb. 6, 2018

Re: [Pharo-users] New booklets organisation and new booklet

by Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas

Thanks Steph, I think that a good starting point will be the Panama Papers essay[1] and also installing Grafoscopio and showing her other interactive notebooks available in the "Help" menu (more to come soon). [1] http://mutabit.com/offray/blog/en/entry/panama-papers-1 Cheers, Offray On 02/02/18 06:53, Stephane Ducasse wrote: > We will have a journalist visiting us and I would like to show her > roassal and show her your work :) > > > On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 7:54 PM, Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas > <offray.luna(a)mutabit.com> wrote: >> Hi, >> >> >> On 30/01/18 11:36, Ben Coman wrote: >>> On 30 January 2018 at 15:54, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Now I wonder if it makes sense to have all the docs of drGeo here. I >>>> can do it but I'm thinking about it. >>>> May be I could create another category. >>> Perhaps a category named "Applications" or "Libraries" >> I agree with Ben. On the "Applications" front, showing a healthy >> ecosystem with proper documentation could be useful. Pharo seems too >> oriented towards programmers and can provide a lot to people outside >> this particular field. >> >> >>>> I "read" your handbook and I >>>> do not think that it should be listed among the pharo books. >>>> Now what I would love to have is a handbook: Pharo for the Data >>>> Journalist. Do you have something like that? >> We have Grafoscopio interactive notebooks used for our Data Week, on >> topics like data activism and digital citizenship, but they are >> complementary material to a intense hackathon alike face to face >> meeting, so they're not ready as stand alone material. But we will be >> doing other publications talking about "technologies for autonomy", >> including Indie Web and Pocket Infrastructures. Grafoscopio and Pharo >> will be enablers of such publications and technologies, but we want to >> use a diverse ecosystem of tools beyond Pharo. Once I have such >> prototypes and books/booklets, I will share them back with this community. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Offray >> >> >

Feb. 6, 2018

Re: [Pharo-users] Neural Network - Handwritten Digit Recognition

by Pierce Ng

On Tue, Feb 06, 2018 at 11:40:12AM +0100, Stephane Ducasse wrote: > Thanks for sharing this. This is cool. > I set up a booklet Booklet-IANeurons for alex and a little book around > neural networks and your work could fit there. Happy to contribute to the book. The blog post content is already in Pillar. Pierce

Feb. 6, 2018