December 2018 - Pharo-users

Testing User Agent from Zinc

by horrido

Is there any way I can check the user agent string from Zinc or Teapot so that I can determine whether the user is on a mobile device? I need to modify the HTML accordingly and it's really, really messy trying to do this with JavaScript (navigator.userAgent) and conditionally inserting innerHTML. -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html

Dec. 8, 2018

Re: [Pharo-users] OpenGL resources?

by Todd Blanchard

I will look at that. Thanks! > On Dec 7, 2018, at 7:23 AM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > wellâ¦ there is an (or several) OpenGL packages. > I would say is a perfect environment because you do not have the compile cycle, but you already know that :) > > Iâd recommend starting here: > > https://github.com/ronsaldo/uffi-opengl <https://github.com/ronsaldo/uffi-opengl> > > And in general, anything Ronie does is âgraphic-heavyâ. I would take one of his projects/demos to learn how to use it. > > Esteban > > Ps: no, I have no idea about OpenGL :P > > >> On 7 Dec 2018, at 15:45, Todd Blanchard via Pharo-users <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org <mailto:pharo-users@lists.pharo.org>> wrote: >> >> >> From: Todd Blanchard <tblanchard(a)mac.com <mailto:tblanchard@mac.com>> >> Subject: OpenGL resources? >> Date: 7 December 2018 at 15:45:10 CET >> To: Any question about pharo is welcome <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org <mailto:pharo-users@lists.pharo.org>> >> >> >> Hi, >> >> I need to learn OpenGL for my job and was wondering if any of the OpenGL experts could comment on Pharo's OpenGL integration and its suitability for a learning environment. >> >> Are there any particular packages I should look at that are heavily OpenGL oriented that would make a good base for learning? >> >> Thanks >> >> >

Dec. 7, 2018

Re: [Pharo-users] OpenGL resources?

by Esteban Lorenzano

Hi, wellâ¦ there is an (or several) OpenGL packages. I would say is a perfect environment because you do not have the compile cycle, but you already know that :) Iâd recommend starting here: https://github.com/ronsaldo/uffi-opengl <https://github.com/ronsaldo/uffi-opengl> And in general, anything Ronie does is âgraphic-heavyâ. I would take one of his projects/demos to learn how to use it. Esteban Ps: no, I have no idea about OpenGL :P > On 7 Dec 2018, at 15:45, Todd Blanchard via Pharo-users <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> wrote: > > > From: Todd Blanchard <tblanchard(a)mac.com> > Subject: OpenGL resources? > Date: 7 December 2018 at 15:45:10 CET > To: Any question about pharo is welcome <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> > > > Hi, > > I need to learn OpenGL for my job and was wondering if any of the OpenGL experts could comment on Pharo's OpenGL integration and its suitability for a learning environment. > > Are there any particular packages I should look at that are heavily OpenGL oriented that would make a good base for learning? > > Thanks > >

Dec. 7, 2018

Re: [Pharo-users] Voyage

by Esteban Lorenzano

Hi, Iâm sorry I didnât see this before. This happens because there are many projects that are still using filetree format which stores one file per method. And the problem here is that windows has a path limit that you are exceeding. To workaround this problem: - Open iceberg settings (toolbar button in repositories window). - Check "Share repositories between imagesâ. - In "Location for shared repositoriesâ put something like âC:\repoâ (you will need to create that dir too). And retry :) Esteban > On 4 Dec 2018, at 17:24, Sanjay Minni <sm(a)planage.com> wrote: > > Hi Esteban, > > I get a Debug Popup as per below - how do I debug from here > > <http://forum.world.st/file/t368721/VoyageIcebergLoadErr01.jpg <http://forum.world.st/file/t368721/VoyageIcebergLoadErr01.jpg>> > > <http://forum.world.st/file/t368721/VoyageLoadError01.jpg <http://forum.world.st/file/t368721/VoyageLoadError01.jpg>> > > > EstebanLM wrote >> There is indeed a problem because cryptography package is still using an >> old API: #ifNotNilDo: that does not exists anymore in Pharo. >> You are probably seen something like this: >> >> >> >> >> (And this is a bug) >> Anyway, while we fix this, you can replace #ifNotNilDo: for #ifNotNil:, >> then save and select âproceedâ. >> >> That will allow voyage to load properly. >> >> Cheers, >> Esteban >> >> >> >>> On 2 Dec 2018, at 12:39, Sanjay Minni < > >> sm@ > >> > wrote: >>> >>> I am unable to load Voyage-Mongo and Voyage-Memory in Pharo 7.0.0rC1 >>> >>> tried using the scipt below and also thru the Catalog Browser entries for >>> Voyage >>> any pointers >>> >>> >>> CyrilFerlicot wrote >>>> Le 16/11/2018 Ã 02:02, horrido a Ã©crit : >>>>> I'm trying to load Voyage for MongoDB and I'm having great difficulty. >>>>> The >>>>> docs seem to be out of date. >>>>> >>>>> What are the current instructions for doing this? >>>>> >>>>> The docs also refer to "Configurations Browser" in World Menu/Tools, >>>>> but >>>>> there is no longer any such thing. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> Voyage-Mongo >>>> >>>> Metacello new >>>> repository: 'github://pharo-nosql/voyage/mc'; >>>> baseline: 'Voyage'; >>>> onConflictUseIncoming; >>>> load: 'mongo tests'. >>>> >>>> Voyage-UnQLite >>>> >>>> Metacello new >>>> repository: 'github://pharo-nosql/voyage/mc'; >>>> baseline: 'Voyage'; >>>> onConflictUseIncoming; >>>> load: 'unqlite tests'. >>>> >>>> Voyage-Memory >>>> >>>> Metacello new >>>> repository: 'github://pharo-nosql/voyage/mc'; >>>> baseline: 'Voyage'; >>>> onConflictUseIncoming; >>>> load: 'memory tests'. >>>> >>>> Should work. >>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Cyril Ferlicot >>>> https://ferlicot.fr >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> signature.asc (836 bytes) >>>> <http://forum.world.st/attachment/5088985/0/signature.asc> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> cheers, >>> Sanjay >>> -- >>> Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html >>> >> >> >> >> Screenshot 2018-12-02 at 15.02.19.png (165K) >> <http://forum.world.st/attachment/5090021/0/Screenshot%202018-12-02%20at%2015.02.19.png&gt <http://forum.world.st/attachment/5090021/0/Screenshot%202018-12-02%20at%201…>; > > > > > > ----- > cheers, > Sanjay > -- > Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html <http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html>

Dec. 7, 2018

OpenGL resources?

by Todd Blanchard

Hi, I need to learn OpenGL for my job and was wondering if any of the OpenGL experts could comment on Pharo's OpenGL integration and its suitability for a learning environment. Are there any particular packages I should look at that are heavily OpenGL oriented that would make a good base for learning? Thanks

Dec. 7, 2018

Re: [Pharo-users] Voyage

by Ben Coman

Second thing to try, is copy the VM and Image into a short path location e.g.... C:\pharo Then try your Pharo actions again. As backup, you might use these... http://files.pharo.org/get-files/70/pharo.zip http://files.pharo.org/get-files/70/pharo-win-stable.zip cheers -ben On Fri, 7 Dec 2018 at 17:39, Sanjay Minni <sm(a)planage.com> wrote: > I can download the file and shorten the name but the issue is it seems that > the process stops and remaining files and not downloaded, how to get around > that ? > > to elaborate - only the first 7 files of this folder is copied/downloaded > into pharo-local/... > > > https://github.com/pharo-contributions/Cryptography/tree/master/source/Cryp… > > > > Ben Coman wrote > > On Fri, 7 Dec 2018 at 00:26, Sanjay Minni < > > > sm@ > > > > wrote: > > > >> Hi Ben, > >> > >> how to go about the hack ? > >> > >> it seems the file being looked for is this(from the github Cryptography > >> repository) > >> <http://forum.world.st/file/t368721/CryptographyLoadErr.jpg> > >> > > but this is not copied in ...\pharo-local\...\sources\... > >> <http://forum.world.st/file/t368721/CryptographyFilesInSource.jpg&gt > ; > >> > >> > > Try manually downloading that file and put it in place named something > > short like e.g. "xx.st" > > I'm not certain that will work, but worth a try. > > > > Alternatively, install pharo in a short root folder "C:\x" to give it > > filenames plenty of headroom. > > Note, this might not be your problem, but should help scope it out. > > > > > > > >> also > >> Voyage loading thru playground ultimately terminates as per screen below > >> (is > >> this an expected behaviour) ? > >> <http://forum.world.st/file/t368721/VoyageLoadTermination.jpg> > >> > >> > > I'm not familiar with that. > > > > cheers -ben > > > > > >> > >> > >> Ben Coman wrote > >> > On Wed, 5 Dec 2018 at 00:25, Sanjay Minni < > >> > >> > sm@ > >> > >> > > wrote: > >> > > >> >> Hi Esteban, > >> >> > >> >> I get a Debug Popup as per below - how do I debug from here > >> >> > >> >> <http://forum.world.st/file/t368721/VoyageIcebergLoadErr01.jpg&gt > ; > >> >> > >> >> <http://forum.world.st/file/t368721/VoyageLoadError01.jpg> > >> >> > >> > > >> > Is this on Windows? > >> > It could be that long path names continue to bite. > >> > Could you try a hack... go in on the command line and shorten the > >> > directory > >> > names after "source" ? > >> > > >> > cheers -ben > >> > > >> > [... snip ...] > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ----- > >> cheers, > >> Sanjay > >> -- > >> Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html > >> > >> > > > > > > ----- > cheers, > Sanjay > -- > Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html > >

Dec. 7, 2018

Re: [Pharo-users] Voyage

by Sanjay Minni

I can download the file and shorten the name but the issue is it seems that the process stops and remaining files and not downloaded, how to get around that ? to elaborate - only the first 7 files of this folder is copied/downloaded into pharo-local/... https://github.com/pharo-contributions/Cryptography/tree/master/source/Cryp… Ben Coman wrote > On Fri, 7 Dec 2018 at 00:26, Sanjay Minni < > sm@ > > wrote: > >> Hi Ben, >> >> how to go about the hack ? >> >> it seems the file being looked for is this(from the github Cryptography >> repository) >> <http://forum.world.st/file/t368721/CryptographyLoadErr.jpg> >> > but this is not copied in ...\pharo-local\...\sources\... >> <http://forum.world.st/file/t368721/CryptographyFilesInSource.jpg> >> >> > Try manually downloading that file and put it in place named something > short like e.g. "xx.st" > I'm not certain that will work, but worth a try. > > Alternatively, install pharo in a short root folder "C:\x" to give it > filenames plenty of headroom. > Note, this might not be your problem, but should help scope it out. > > > >> also >> Voyage loading thru playground ultimately terminates as per screen below >> (is >> this an expected behaviour) ? >> <http://forum.world.st/file/t368721/VoyageLoadTermination.jpg> >> >> > I'm not familiar with that. > > cheers -ben > > >> >> >> Ben Coman wrote >> > On Wed, 5 Dec 2018 at 00:25, Sanjay Minni < >> >> > sm@ >> >> > > wrote: >> > >> >> Hi Esteban, >> >> >> >> I get a Debug Popup as per below - how do I debug from here >> >> >> >> <http://forum.world.st/file/t368721/VoyageIcebergLoadErr01.jpg> >> >> >> >> <http://forum.world.st/file/t368721/VoyageLoadError01.jpg> >> >> >> > >> > Is this on Windows? >> > It could be that long path names continue to bite. >> > Could you try a hack... go in on the command line and shorten the >> > directory >> > names after "source" ? >> > >> > cheers -ben >> > >> > [... snip ...] >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- >> cheers, >> Sanjay >> -- >> Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html >> >> ----- cheers, Sanjay -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html

Dec. 7, 2018

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] Fwd: Announcing Repl.it Multiplayer

by Tim Mackinnon

There was also the work that Jason and Julien did with âWolfpackâ (this was in VisualWorks) that explores the idea of group programming in an image. They did quite a few workshops on it, and it was tantalisingly interesting but I think they ran out of steam. Tim Sent from my iPhone > On 7 Dec 2018, at 06:34, Ben Coman <btc(a)openinworld.com> wrote: > > One advantage of their seemingly text-based system might be bandwidth, but Pharo is a graphical system. > It might be worthwhile for dispersed teams working on web hosted Pharo systems, but we already have remote tools. > I guess it might almost already be able to have multiple people using them simultaneously on the one image(?), but everyone would be looking at different Inpectors. > It could be cool for a common Inspector instance to show up on multiple user screens. > But is it that much better than the other suggestions?? > > cheers -ben > >> On Fri, 7 Dec 2018 at 06:03, Eliot Miranda <eliot.miranda(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Hi Santiago, >> >>> On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 1:52 PM Santiago Bragagnolo <santiagobragagnolo(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> Would this be interesting to have in pharo?? >> >> There is already previous relevant work. Look up Kansas for Self http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/1357 and Nebraska for Squeak http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/1356. Focussing on the Multiplayer like UI would be a major regression. Note that we already have lots fo relevant infrastructure, such as a VNC server that allows desktops to be shared. Building a shared programming environment for Pharo doesn't need to start from such limited models as the Multiplayer. >> >>> >>> What do you think? >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>> From: Amjad from Repl.it <contact(a)repl.it> >>> Date: jue., 6 de dic. de 2018 21:55 >>> Subject: Announcing Repl.it Multiplayer >>> To: <santiagobragagnolo(a)gmail.com> >>> >>> >>> >>> Hey Santiago, >>> >>> Professional programmers all know that software development is a fundamentally social experience. But coding remains a single-player experience by default â today, we're changing this! >>> >>> As part of our mission to make computing more accessible, we believe connecting coders, learners, and teachers together in real time, in the development environment, is a big piece of the puzzle. That's why we're proud to announce Multiplayer. >>> >>> Multiplayer lets you code with friends in the same editor, execute programs in the same interpreter, interact with the same terminal, chat in the IDE, edit files and share the same system resources, and ship applications from the same interface! We've redesigned every part of our infrastructure to work in multiplayer mode -- from the filesystem to the interpreter. >>> >>> Read more about it here, or, better yet, hop in, invite your friends and start coding! >>> Amjad from Repl.it >>> >>> 767 Bryant St, #210, San Francisco, CA 94107 >>> >>> Unsubscribe - Unsubscribe Preferences >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> _,,,^..^,,,_ >> best, Eliot

Dec. 7, 2018

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] Fwd: Announcing Repl.it Multiplayer

by Ben Coman

One advantage of their seemingly text-based system might be bandwidth, but Pharo is a graphical system. It might be worthwhile for dispersed teams working on web hosted Pharo systems, but we already have remote tools. I guess it might almost already be able to have multiple people using them simultaneously on the one image(?), but everyone would be looking at different Inpectors. It could be cool for a common Inspector instance to show up on multiple user screens. But is it that much better than the other suggestions?? cheers -ben On Fri, 7 Dec 2018 at 06:03, Eliot Miranda <eliot.miranda(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Santiago, > > On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 1:52 PM Santiago Bragagnolo < > santiagobragagnolo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Would this be interesting to have in pharo?? >> > > There is already previous relevant work. Look up Kansas for Self > http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/1357 and Nebraska for Squeak > http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/1356. Focussing on the Multiplayer like UI > would be a major regression. Note that we already have lots fo relevant > infrastructure, such as a VNC server that allows desktops to be shared. > Building a shared programming environment for Pharo doesn't need to start > from such limited models as the Multiplayer. > > >> >> What do you think? >> >> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >> From: Amjad from Repl.it <contact(a)repl.it> >> Date: jue., 6 de dic. de 2018 21:55 >> Subject: Announcing Repl.it Multiplayer >> To: <santiagobragagnolo(a)gmail.com> >> >> >> The official release of Repl.it Multiplayer, the collaborative coding >> experience. >> [image: Repl.it Logo] >> <http://url1361.repl.it/wf/click?upn=LLQySNMYKcsdrD3Xpw6uy0-2F0rOvSNWPLVoxcc…> >> >> Hey Santiago, >> >> Professional programmers all know that software development is a >> fundamentally social experience. But coding remains a single-player >> experience by default â today, we're changing this! >> >> As part of our mission to make computing more accessible, we believe >> connecting coders, learners, and teachers together in real time, in the >> development environment, is a big piece of the puzzle. That's why we're >> proud to announce *Multiplayer*. >> >> Multiplayer lets you code with friends in the same editor, execute >> programs in the same interpreter, interact with the same terminal, chat in >> the IDE, edit files and share the same system resources, and ship >> applications from the same interface! We've redesigned every part of our >> infrastructure to work in multiplayer mode -- from the filesystem to the >> interpreter. >> [image: Repl.it Multiplayer] >> <http://url1361.repl.it/wf/click?upn=LLQySNMYKcsdrD3Xpw6uy2nGqoz6hoT3s1h4Iok…> >> >> Read more about it here >> <http://url1361.repl.it/wf/click?upn=LLQySNMYKcsdrD3Xpw6uy2nGqoz6hoT3s1h4Iok…>, >> or, better yet, hop in >> <http://url1361.repl.it/wf/click?upn=LLQySNMYKcsdrD3Xpw6uy7y9lyv5Ff-2FoVbyQr…>, >> invite your friends and start coding! >> >> Amjad from Repl.it >> >> 767 Bryant St, #210, San Francisco, CA 94107 >> >> Unsubscribe >> <http://url1361.repl.it/asm/unsubscribe/?user_id=8107274&data=346ff9QOfXR57C…> >> - Unsubscribe Preferences >> <http://url1361.repl.it/asm/?user_id=8107274&data=USDh4jRtVtwga9cUFmXIXfBZ19…> >> > > > -- > _,,,^..^,,,_ > best, Eliot >

Dec. 7, 2018

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] Fwd: Announcing Repl.it Multiplayer

by Santiago Bragagnolo

Yeah I think I see your point. I'm going to check out those projects and learn some :). Thx! El jue., 6 de dic. de 2018 23:03, Eliot Miranda <eliot.miranda(a)gmail.com> escribiÃ³: > Hi Santiago, > > On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 1:52 PM Santiago Bragagnolo < > santiagobragagnolo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Would this be interesting to have in pharo?? >> > > There is already previous relevant work. Look up Kansas for Self > http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/1357 and Nebraska for Squeak > http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/1356. Focussing on the Multiplayer like UI > would be a major regression. Note that we already have lots fo relevant > infrastructure, such as a VNC server that allows desktops to be shared. > Building a shared programming environment for Pharo doesn't need to start > from such limited models as the Multiplayer. > > >> >> What do you think? >> >> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >> From: Amjad from Repl.it <contact(a)repl.it> >> Date: jue., 6 de dic. de 2018 21:55 >> Subject: Announcing Repl.it Multiplayer >> To: <santiagobragagnolo(a)gmail.com> >> >> >> The official release of Repl.it Multiplayer, the collaborative coding >> experience. >> [image: Repl.it Logo] >> <http://url1361.repl.it/wf/click?upn=LLQySNMYKcsdrD3Xpw6uy0-2F0rOvSNWPLVoxcc…> >> >> Hey Santiago, >> >> Professional programmers all know that software development is a >> fundamentally social experience. But coding remains a single-player >> experience by default â today, we're changing this! >> >> As part of our mission to make computing more accessible, we believe >> connecting coders, learners, and teachers together in real time, in the >> development environment, is a big piece of the puzzle. That's why we're >> proud to announce *Multiplayer*. >> >> Multiplayer lets you code with friends in the same editor, execute >> programs in the same interpreter, interact with the same terminal, chat in >> the IDE, edit files and share the same system resources, and ship >> applications from the same interface! We've redesigned every part of our >> infrastructure to work in multiplayer mode -- from the filesystem to the >> interpreter. >> [image: Repl.it Multiplayer] >> <http://url1361.repl.it/wf/click?upn=LLQySNMYKcsdrD3Xpw6uy2nGqoz6hoT3s1h4Iok…> >> >> Read more about it here >> <http://url1361.repl.it/wf/click?upn=LLQySNMYKcsdrD3Xpw6uy2nGqoz6hoT3s1h4Iok…>, >> or, better yet, hop in >> <http://url1361.repl.it/wf/click?upn=LLQySNMYKcsdrD3Xpw6uy7y9lyv5Ff-2FoVbyQr…>, >> invite your friends and start coding! >> >> Amjad from Repl.it >> >> 767 Bryant St, #210, San Francisco, CA 94107 >> >> Unsubscribe >> <http://url1361.repl.it/asm/unsubscribe/?user_id=8107274&data=346ff9QOfXR57C…> >> - Unsubscribe Preferences >> <http://url1361.repl.it/asm/?user_id=8107274&data=USDh4jRtVtwga9cUFmXIXfBZ19…> >> > > > -- > _,,,^..^,,,_ > best, Eliot >

Dec. 6, 2018