January 2018 - Pharo-users - lists.pharo.org

Trying to test Phantom / aspects in Pharo

by Steven Costiou

Hi, i am trying to test PHANtom but so far i can't get it to work. I found an image here https://pleiad.cl/research/software/phantom and i made it run on a vm from 2013. But the examples crashes (PhantomDemo), and i cannot make my own examples work either (simple object interception). Which vm should i use ? Is the image available in the link above still ok ? By any chance, is there a version for Pharo 6 ? Steven.

Jan. 13, 2018

Re: [Pharo-users] pharo 6.1 64bit segmentation fault on linux

by Cyril Ferlicot D.

Le 13/01/2018 Ã 11:33, Norbert Hartl a Ã©critÂ : > Johan, > >> Am 13.01.2018 um 11:08 schrieb Johan Brichau <johan(a)inceptive.be>: >> >> Hi, >> >> Iâm still hitting this. >> Segfault *every time* when I try to build our project using Travis-CI in Linux. >> >> Even when I try to use the latest vm >> >> Nobody else hits this issue?? >> > I have this problem. It made me go back to 32bit for deployments. Nearly half of my jenkins builds are broken because the vm crashes. Lately I started to use read-only support. And the only thing I noticed was that the vm hangs completely. So no it is not usable at the moment. > I switched back to 32bit and tried to push tickets on fogbugz that are 64 bit related. At least fuel and SmallFloat64 basicIdentityHash have been fixed lately. As everyone is busy I guess no backporting has started for 6.1. But everyone should try 64bit now and find problems so it could be included in the next vm release > > Norbert > > Hi, Same problem here. We had to write some retry mechanism on our Jenkins to retry a build when it find vm crashes during a configuration loading. -- Cyril Ferlicot https://ferlicot.fr http://www.synectique.eu 2 rue Jacques PrÃ©vert 01, 59650 Villeneuve d'ascq France

Jan. 13, 2018

Re: [Pharo-users] pharo 6.1 64bit segmentation fault on linux

by Norbert Hartl

Johan, > Am 13.01.2018 um 11:08 schrieb Johan Brichau <johan(a)inceptive.be>: > > Hi, > > Iâm still hitting this. > Segfault *every time* when I try to build our project using Travis-CI in Linux. > > Even when I try to use the latest vm > > Nobody else hits this issue?? > I have this problem. It made me go back to 32bit for deployments. Nearly half of my jenkins builds are broken because the vm crashes. Lately I started to use read-only support. And the only thing I noticed was that the vm hangs completely. So no it is not usable at the moment. I switched back to 32bit and tried to push tickets on fogbugz that are 64 bit related. At least fuel and SmallFloat64 basicIdentityHash have been fixed lately. As everyone is busy I guess no backporting has started for 6.1. But everyone should try 64bit now and find problems so it could be included in the next vm release Norbert > Johan > >> On 23 Dec 2017, at 01:14, Cyril Ferlicot D. <cyril.ferlicot(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> On 12/22/2017 10:33 PM, Johan Brichau wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> Iâm also hitting this >>> issue: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/20737/Segmentation-fault-trying-to-load-c… >>> Also reported >>> here: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-6-1-64-bits-segmentation-fault-loading-code-on-… >>> >>> This stops us from using Travis-CI because the OSX builds are just way >>> too slow there. >>> >>> Since more recent vms are working (see thread), any chance the vm for >>> linux is updated on the pharo site so we can use Smalltalk-CI? >>> >> >> Hi Johan, >> >> I think there was some work to re-establish the vm distribution done >> these days. See the result here: >> >> https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm/pull/176 >> >> I hope this will help with the publication of a new stable VM. It is >> also important for us at Synectique. To be able to have a 64bits linux >> applications reliable would help us a lot in the simplifications of our >> processes. :) >> >> I guess that it will still have to wait some time since it's the end of >> the year and there must be a lot of people taking holidays. >> >>> thx for an update >>> Johan >> >> >> -- >> Cyril Ferlicot >> https://ferlicot.fr >> >> http://www.synectique.eu >> 2 rue Jacques PrÃ©vert 01, >> 59650 Villeneuve d'ascq France >>

Jan. 13, 2018

Re: [Pharo-users] pharo 6.1 64bit segmentation fault on linux

by Alistair Grant

On 13 January 2018 at 11:08, Johan Brichau <johan(a)inceptive.be> wrote: > Hi, > > Iâm still hitting this. > Segfault *every time* when I try to build our project using Travis-CI in Linux. > > Even when I try to use the latest vm > > Nobody else hits this issue?? > > Johan Yep, see http://forum.world.st/Pharo-64bit-on-Ubuntu-was-Re-failing-tests-in-Pharo-7… (I don't think the differences between Pharo 6.1 and 7 are significant yet) Cheers, Alistair >> On 23 Dec 2017, at 01:14, Cyril Ferlicot D. <cyril.ferlicot(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> On 12/22/2017 10:33 PM, Johan Brichau wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> Iâm also hitting this >>> issue: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/20737/Segmentation-fault-trying-to-load-c… >>> Also reported >>> here: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-6-1-64-bits-segmentation-fault-loading-code-on-… >>> >>> This stops us from using Travis-CI because the OSX builds are just way >>> too slow there. >>> >>> Since more recent vms are working (see thread), any chance the vm for >>> linux is updated on the pharo site so we can use Smalltalk-CI? >>> >> >> Hi Johan, >> >> I think there was some work to re-establish the vm distribution done >> these days. See the result here: >> >> https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm/pull/176 >> >> I hope this will help with the publication of a new stable VM. It is >> also important for us at Synectique. To be able to have a 64bits linux >> applications reliable would help us a lot in the simplifications of our >> processes. :) >> >> I guess that it will still have to wait some time since it's the end of >> the year and there must be a lot of people taking holidays. >> >>> thx for an update >>> Johan >> >> >> -- >> Cyril Ferlicot >> https://ferlicot.fr >> >> http://www.synectique.eu >> 2 rue Jacques PrÃ©vert 01, >> 59650 Villeneuve d'ascq France >> > >

Jan. 13, 2018

Re: [Pharo-users] pharo 6.1 64bit segmentation fault on linux

by Johan Brichau

Hi, Iâm still hitting this. Segfault *every time* when I try to build our project using Travis-CI in Linux. Even when I try to use the latest vm Nobody else hits this issue?? Johan > On 23 Dec 2017, at 01:14, Cyril Ferlicot D. <cyril.ferlicot(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > On 12/22/2017 10:33 PM, Johan Brichau wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Iâm also hitting this >> issue: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/20737/Segmentation-fault-trying-to-load-c… >> Also reported >> here: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-6-1-64-bits-segmentation-fault-loading-code-on-… >> >> This stops us from using Travis-CI because the OSX builds are just way >> too slow there. >> >> Since more recent vms are working (see thread), any chance the vm for >> linux is updated on the pharo site so we can use Smalltalk-CI? >> > > Hi Johan, > > I think there was some work to re-establish the vm distribution done > these days. See the result here: > > https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm/pull/176 > > I hope this will help with the publication of a new stable VM. It is > also important for us at Synectique. To be able to have a 64bits linux > applications reliable would help us a lot in the simplifications of our > processes. :) > > I guess that it will still have to wait some time since it's the end of > the year and there must be a lot of people taking holidays. > >> thx for an update >> Johan > > > -- > Cyril Ferlicot > https://ferlicot.fr > > http://www.synectique.eu > 2 rue Jacques PrÃ©vert 01, > 59650 Villeneuve d'ascq France >

Jan. 13, 2018

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 7 image cannot write changes message on startup

by PBKResearch

Sanjay I have had messages like this when I inadvertently tried to start two copies of the same image (in my case pharo 6.1). The first image was running happily in the background, the second gave this message (but still seemed to start OK). I am also on Windows 10, using 32-bit Pharo. HTH Peter Kenny -----Original Message----- From: Pharo-users [mailto:pharo-users-bounces@lists.pharo.org] On Behalf Of Sanjay Minni Sent: 13 January 2018 05:50 To: pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 7 image cannot write changes message on starup Hi Richard, the path for the image/changes/sources is C:\Users\Myself\Documents\DevArea\p7\Pharo7.0-32bit-eb0a6fb.changes. in which I have all the rights (this is a desktop in which I have admin rights) the pharo image messages also shows the same path (in my earlier post I had replaced with ...) the VM is is a separate directory which is in the path so what could be the issue here Richard Sargent wrote > Hi Sanjay, > > It depends on where you installed Pharo. The ... in the path cited is > important. (And maybe Pharo elided the path.) > > If the path involves either of the Program Files directories, they > cannot be written by an unprivileged user/program. > > Check your access rights on each directory or file in the path via > their properties. > > > On Jan 12, 2018 21:09, "Sanjay Minni" < > sm@ > > wrote: > >> Hi >> >> I get the following message when I try to startup the latest Pharo 7 >> image >> (32 bit VM in Windows). >> >> "Information >> Pharo cannot write to the changes file named >> C:\...\Pharo7.0-32bit-eb0a6fb.changes. >> Please check that you have write permission for this file." >> >> This is a desktop and there is really no issues o permissions What is >> wrong here >> >> regards >> Sanjay >> >> >> >> ----- >> --- >> Regards, Sanjay >> -- >> Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html >> >> ----- --- Regards, Sanjay -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html

Jan. 13, 2018

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 7 image cannot write changes message on starup

by Alistair Grant

Hi Sanjay, You're not the only one. :-) This problem has been reported on the pharo-dev mailing list as well. Cheers, Alistair On 13 January 2018 at 06:49, Sanjay Minni <sm(a)planage.com> wrote: > Hi Richard, > > the path for the image/changes/sources is > > C:\Users\Myself\Documents\DevArea\p7\Pharo7.0-32bit-eb0a6fb.changes. > > in which I have all the rights (this is a desktop in which I have admin > rights) > the pharo image messages also shows the same path (in my earlier post I had > replaced with ...) > > the VM is is a separate directory which is in the path > > so what could be the issue here > > > Richard Sargent wrote >> Hi Sanjay, >> >> It depends on where you installed Pharo. The ... in the path cited is >> important. (And maybe Pharo elided the path.) >> >> If the path involves either of the Program Files directories, they cannot >> be written by an unprivileged user/program. >> >> Check your access rights on each directory or file in the path via their >> properties. >> >> >> On Jan 12, 2018 21:09, "Sanjay Minni" < > >> sm@ > >> > wrote: >> >>> Hi >>> >>> I get the following message when I try to startup the latest Pharo 7 >>> image >>> (32 bit VM in Windows). >>> >>> "Information >>> Pharo cannot write to the changes file named >>> C:\...\Pharo7.0-32bit-eb0a6fb.changes. >>> Please check that you have write permission for this file." >>> >>> This is a desktop and there is really no issues o permissions >>> What is wrong here >>> >>> regards >>> Sanjay >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> --- >>> Regards, Sanjay >>> -- >>> Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html >>> >>> > > > > > > ----- > --- > Regards, Sanjay > -- > Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html >

Jan. 13, 2018

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 7 image cannot write changes message on starup

by Sanjay Minni

Hi Richard, the path for the image/changes/sources is C:\Users\Myself\Documents\DevArea\p7\Pharo7.0-32bit-eb0a6fb.changes. in which I have all the rights (this is a desktop in which I have admin rights) the pharo image messages also shows the same path (in my earlier post I had replaced with ...) the VM is is a separate directory which is in the path so what could be the issue here Richard Sargent wrote > Hi Sanjay, > > It depends on where you installed Pharo. The ... in the path cited is > important. (And maybe Pharo elided the path.) > > If the path involves either of the Program Files directories, they cannot > be written by an unprivileged user/program. > > Check your access rights on each directory or file in the path via their > properties. > > > On Jan 12, 2018 21:09, "Sanjay Minni" < > sm@ > > wrote: > >> Hi >> >> I get the following message when I try to startup the latest Pharo 7 >> image >> (32 bit VM in Windows). >> >> "Information >> Pharo cannot write to the changes file named >> C:\...\Pharo7.0-32bit-eb0a6fb.changes. >> Please check that you have write permission for this file." >> >> This is a desktop and there is really no issues o permissions >> What is wrong here >> >> regards >> Sanjay >> >> >> >> ----- >> --- >> Regards, Sanjay >> -- >> Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html >> >> ----- --- Regards, Sanjay -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html

Jan. 13, 2018

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 7 image cannot write changes message on starup

by Richard Sargent

Hi Sanjay, It depends on where you installed Pharo. The ... in the path cited is important. (And maybe Pharo elided the path.) If the path involves either of the Program Files directories, they cannot be written by an unprivileged user/program. Check your access rights on each directory or file in the path via their properties. On Jan 12, 2018 21:09, "Sanjay Minni" <sm(a)planage.com> wrote: > Hi > > I get the following message when I try to startup the latest Pharo 7 image > (32 bit VM in Windows). > > "Information > Pharo cannot write to the changes file named > C:\...\Pharo7.0-32bit-eb0a6fb.changes. > Please check that you have write permission for this file." > > This is a desktop and there is really no issues o permissions > What is wrong here > > regards > Sanjay > > > > ----- > --- > Regards, Sanjay > -- > Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html > >

Jan. 13, 2018

Pharo 7 image cannot write changes message on starup

by Sanjay Minni

Hi I get the following message when I try to startup the latest Pharo 7 image (32 bit VM in Windows). "Information Pharo cannot write to the changes file named C:\...\Pharo7.0-32bit-eb0a6fb.changes. Please check that you have write permission for this file." This is a desktop and there is really no issues o permissions What is wrong here regards Sanjay ----- --- Regards, Sanjay -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html

Jan. 13, 2018