August 2017 - Pharo-users - lists.pharo.org

Live Programming in Smalltalk development environments survey + raffle

by Juraj Kubelka

â âWe are apologize for multiple copies.â â Dear Smalltalker, Live programming frees developers from the "edit-compile-run" loop and allows people to interact with running programs very easily. Live programming is getting popular, but many of its features have been present in Smalltalk for a very long time. We want to understand how Smalltalk software developers use live programming features in practice. We would be grateful if you could participate in our 10-minute survey on this subject: http://bit.ly/2ufcg2D <http://bit.ly/2ufcg2D> As a thank you for your participation, you will be able to participate in a raffle to win a Smalltalk book of your choice. If you wish to participate, you will need to share your email with us, so that we can contact you. We will appreciate if you share the survey - Twitter post: https://twitter.com/JurajKubelka/status/893006267085709312 <https://twitter.com/JurajKubelka/status/893006267085709312> - Facebook post: https://www.facebook.com/juraj.kubelka/posts/10212505941300008 <https://www.facebook.com/juraj.kubelka/posts/10212505941300008> By participating in the survey you will: - help me to successfully finish my PhD, - push Smalltalk awareness in Live Programming research community, - bring new integrated electronic communication ideas, and - bring new ideas to improve our Smalltalk Live Programming experience :-) We will close the survey on Wednesday, August 9, 2017 AoE. Thank you and we really hope you enjoy participating in our survey! Juraj Kubelka, PhD Student at the University of Chile Romain Robbes, Professor at Free University of Bozen-Bolzano Alexandre Bergel, Professor at the University of Chile

Aug. 3, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] GT Playground, pages dropdown menu - how does it work?

by Tim Mackinnon

Yes - it looks like I've found a corner I can try to help on (and I'm a bit blocked on my Lambda work while the dust settles in minimal images and how to load things). I'll go and have a look and come back with any questions. I may need help on how to actually integrate any changes as I've never been comfortable with the whole slice thing and doing it with git doesn't seem bedded down yet (it's this that's really held me back in retrospect - so I'm hoping this current disruption will ultimately get us to an easier place) Tim Sent from my iPhone > On 3 Aug 2017, at 07:42, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > The dropdown only shows the cached pages. It should be enhanced. Would you be interested in diving in to propose a change? > > Doru > > > >> On Aug 2, 2017, at 5:54 PM, Tim Mackinnon <tim(a)testit.works> wrote: >> >> Hi - overtime I think I understand how the pages dropdown for the playground works, it then doesnât do what I expect? >> >> I have learned that double clicking a page tab will put the page into the stash directory with a name (which is cool), but then it doesnât always seem to appear in the dropdown list - however I have learned that Spotter will find these pages if I use #playgâ¦ >> >> So if spotter can find them, why does the playground dropdown seem to temperamental, or am I missing some obvious trick for clearing a cache or something like that? Or maybe its a bug? It would be nice if it would work, as its very handy as quick way to swap to a script. >> >> Tim > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > www.feenk.com > > "Quality cannot be an afterthought." > >

Aug. 3, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] How to load a baseline in Iceberg? Get #addTo: sent to nil?

by Tim Mackinnon

Its in the settings options under Iceberg - It looks like it offloads some loading to Metacello vs handling it directly in Iceberg - but have not seen many people talk about it. I'm still curious how people are loading things as I've realised I've probably had this issue all along but didn't realise it, until I found a very simple example of it. Tim Sent from my iPhone > On 3 Aug 2017, at 01:55, Esteban A. Maringolo <emaringolo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > What is the Metacello integration setting? > > Esteban A. Maringolo > > 2017-08-02 19:01 GMT-03:00 Tim Mackinnon <tim(a)testit.works>: >> Answering a portion of my own question - enabling the Metacello Integration setting, does get a bit further, but then it expects my BaselineOF package to have a project method (which I guess configurationOF packages have) - but as this is a baseline I didnât think it was supposed to have one of these? >> >> So I guess that setting isnât applicable? >> >> Tim >> >>> On 2 Aug 2017, at 22:31, Tim Mackinnon <tim(a)testit.works> wrote: >>> >>> Iâm wondering if Iâm missing a trick somewhere - but I have a simple project with 2 packages, one is a BaseLineOfMyPkg and the other is MyPkg (technically I donât need the BaseLineOf, but I was learning how to use them and I simply added a postLoad hook to run some code in it). >>> >>> Anyway, If I clone my repo with Iceberg, I get 2 unloaded packages in the UI. If I right click on the BaseLine one, and click the âinstall baseline (default)â option, I was expecting it to load both packages for me - however I get the talkback error â#addTo: was sent to nil from the MCRepositoryGroup>>addRepository: methodâ. >>> >>> In trying to debug the code I can see its trying to find a handler for gitlocal:///, doesnât find one and then tries to create a repo and bailsâ¦ this seems like a bug? I did notice in tracing the code that there is a reference to a Setting that I saw - âEnable Metacello Integrationâ - should I set that to true (its false by default)? >>> >>> Iâm wondering how other people are loading their projects in Iceberg if this doesnât work? >>> >>> Tim >> >

Aug. 3, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] Spotter question. "Spotter" search keyword need font setting from Pharo Setting Value.

by peter yoo

https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/20283/ wow..... this report is my "first case". thanks to all. it's real :D

Aug. 3, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] GT Playground, pages dropdown menu - how does it work?

by Tudor Girba

Hi, The dropdown only shows the cached pages. It should be enhanced. Would you be interested in diving in to propose a change? Doru > On Aug 2, 2017, at 5:54 PM, Tim Mackinnon <tim(a)testit.works> wrote: > > Hi - overtime I think I understand how the pages dropdown for the playground works, it then doesnât do what I expect? > > I have learned that double clicking a page tab will put the page into the stash directory with a name (which is cool), but then it doesnât always seem to appear in the dropdown list - however I have learned that Spotter will find these pages if I use #playgâ¦ > > So if spotter can find them, why does the playground dropdown seem to temperamental, or am I missing some obvious trick for clearing a cache or something like that? Or maybe its a bug? It would be nice if it would work, as its very handy as quick way to swap to a script. > > Tim -- www.tudorgirba.com www.feenk.com "Quality cannot be an afterthought."

Aug. 3, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] How to load a baseline in Iceberg? Get #addTo: sent to nil?

by Esteban A. Maringolo

What is the Metacello integration setting? Esteban A. Maringolo 2017-08-02 19:01 GMT-03:00 Tim Mackinnon <tim(a)testit.works>: > Answering a portion of my own question - enabling the Metacello > Integration setting, does get a bit further, but then it expects my > BaselineOF package to have a project method (which I guess configurationOF > packages have) - but as this is a baseline I didnât think it was supposed > to have one of these? > > So I guess that setting isnât applicable? > > Tim > > On 2 Aug 2017, at 22:31, Tim Mackinnon <tim(a)testit.works> wrote: > > Iâm wondering if Iâm missing a trick somewhere - but I have a simple > project with 2 packages, one is a BaseLineOfMyPkg and the other is MyPkg > (technically I donât need the BaseLineOf, but I was learning how to use > them and I simply added a postLoad hook to run some code in it). > > Anyway, If I clone my repo with Iceberg, I get 2 unloaded packages in the > UI. If I right click on the BaseLine one, and click the âinstall baseline > (default)â option, I was expecting it to load both packages for me - > however I get the talkback error â#addTo: was sent to nil from the > MCRepositoryGroup>>addRepository: methodâ. > > In trying to debug the code I can see its trying to find a handler for > gitlocal:///, doesnât find one and then tries to create a repo and bailsâ¦ > this seems like a bug? I did notice in tracing the code that there is a > reference to a Setting that I saw - âEnable Metacello Integrationâ - should > I set that to true (its false by default)? > > Iâm wondering how other people are loading their projects in Iceberg if > this doesnât work? > > Tim > > >

Aug. 3, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] Iceberg and removing packages

by Tim Mackinnon

I just hit the same problem - I wanted to remove a package that I no longer wanted - I went to the iceberg packages tab for the project and picked remove from disk and then I did a synchronise and commit. At the time I did notice that it didnât show a package removal change (but I assumed that as it was gone, maybe you donât show that?). Tim > On 31 Jul 2017, at 13:30, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Did you commit? > >> On 31 Jul 2017, at 14:06, Esteban A. Maringolo <emaringolo(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> That's exactly what I did. But after synchronizing the repo, the >> package wasn't listed on Iceberg but it still was in in the repo. >> It happened with another package in another repo as well. >> >> If it happens again I'll let you know. >> >> Regards! >> >> Esteban A. Maringolo >> >> >> 2017-07-31 7:03 GMT-03:00 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>: >>> Hi, >>> >>> In iceberg, you have to go to package tab and say "remove package from disk" >>> >>> Esteban >>> >>>> On 30 Jul 2017, at 17:01, Esteban A. Maringolo <emaringolo(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> I got into the pharo-local/iceberg/... and git rm'ed the directory, >>>> commited and synchronized the project in Iceberg. >>>> >>>> I hope it doesn't break anything since I don't know how much "magic" >>>> does Iceberg behind the scenes other than automating the git commands >>>> and providing a centralized UI. >>>> >>>> What is the "This is all you need to read to understand Iceberg?" >>>> document I should read? I read its wiki, but it seems there is more to >>>> go. >>>> >>>> Regards! >>>> >>>> Esteban A. Maringolo >>>> >>>> >>>> 2017-07-30 11:28 GMT-03:00 Peter Uhnak <i.uhnak(a)gmail.com>: >>>>> This was supposedly fixed in April https://github.com/pharo-vcs/iceberg/issues/317 >>>>> >>>>> however I had the same issue ~two months ago, so I had to delete the packages by hand. >>>>> >>>>> P >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 11:04:20AM -0300, Esteban A. Maringolo wrote: >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm playing around with Iceberg in Pharo 6, and even when I find the >>>>>> workflow streamlined, but since it doesn't map 1:1 with git workflow >>>>>> from other IDEs or command line, I find myself not knowing how to do >>>>>> certain tasks. >>>>>> >>>>>> One thing that happened is that I published a few packages to one of >>>>>> my repos in Github, then I decided to remove one of the packages from >>>>>> the repo, then I synchronized it but in the repo there is still is the >>>>>> package folder for the package I removed. >>>>>> >>>>>> What should I do to definitely remove those files from the commit? >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards! >>>>>> >>>>>> Esteban A. Maringolo >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >

Aug. 2, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] How to load a baseline in Iceberg? Get #addTo: sent to nil?

by Tim Mackinnon

Answering a portion of my own question - enabling the Metacello Integration setting, does get a bit further, but then it expects my BaselineOF package to have a project method (which I guess configurationOF packages have) - but as this is a baseline I didnât think it was supposed to have one of these? So I guess that setting isnât applicable? Tim > On 2 Aug 2017, at 22:31, Tim Mackinnon <tim(a)testit.works> wrote: > > Iâm wondering if Iâm missing a trick somewhere - but I have a simple project with 2 packages, one is a BaseLineOfMyPkg and the other is MyPkg (technically I donât need the BaseLineOf, but I was learning how to use them and I simply added a postLoad hook to run some code in it). > > Anyway, If I clone my repo with Iceberg, I get 2 unloaded packages in the UI. If I right click on the BaseLine one, and click the âinstall baseline (default)â option, I was expecting it to load both packages for me - however I get the talkback error â#addTo: was sent to nil from the MCRepositoryGroup>>addRepository: methodâ. > > In trying to debug the code I can see its trying to find a handler for gitlocal:/// <gitlocal:///>, doesnât find one and then tries to create a repo and bailsâ¦ this seems like a bug? I did notice in tracing the code that there is a reference to a Setting that I saw - âEnable Metacello Integrationâ - should I set that to true (its false by default)? > > Iâm wondering how other people are loading their projects in Iceberg if this doesnât work? > > Tim

Aug. 2, 2017

How to load a baseline in Iceberg? Get #addTo: sent to nil?

by Tim Mackinnon

Iâm wondering if Iâm missing a trick somewhere - but I have a simple project with 2 packages, one is a BaseLineOfMyPkg and the other is MyPkg (technically I donât need the BaseLineOf, but I was learning how to use them and I simply added a postLoad hook to run some code in it). Anyway, If I clone my repo with Iceberg, I get 2 unloaded packages in the UI. If I right click on the BaseLine one, and click the âinstall baseline (default)â option, I was expecting it to load both packages for me - however I get the talkback error â#addTo: was sent to nil from the MCRepositoryGroup>>addRepository: methodâ. In trying to debug the code I can see its trying to find a handler for gitlocal:/// <gitlocal:///>, doesnât find one and then tries to create a repo and bailsâ¦ this seems like a bug? I did notice in tracing the code that there is a reference to a Setting that I saw - âEnable Metacello Integrationâ - should I set that to true (its false by default)? Iâm wondering how other people are loading their projects in Iceberg if this doesnât work? Tim

Aug. 2, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] Syntax Error: Message pattern expected

by Johannes Brauer

> Am 02.08.2017 um 21:44 schrieb Alistair Grant <akgrant0710(a)gmail.com>: > > On Wed, Aug 02, 2017 at 12:22:38PM -0700, jb wrote: >> Hi everyone! >> >> I get this error when I try to load a package from my Monticello rep. I have >> never seen this before and have not a clue where to look for the mistake. >> >> The error message window show: >> Object <none> >> >> Any hints what to do? >> >> Johannes > > Someone may recognise this and be able to answer it straight off, but > otherwise... > > Supply: > > - Pharo version and image number (World Menu -> System -> About) Pharo4.0 Latest update: #40626 > - OS macOs 10.12.6 > - PharoDebug.log (if possible delete the old version and recreate the > error) PharoDebug.log is empty BTW, I tried to do the same with Pharo 6.0 Latest update: #60508 Same behavior Johannes

Aug. 2, 2017