August 2017 - Pharo-users - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-users] Dark Mode

by phil＠highoctane.be

Dark Gmail, Dark Twitter, Wikipedia... etc no problem with Stylish. https://userstyles.org/styles/browse?search_terms=gmail Or make your own - here are a few I made. https://userstyles.org/users/304480 I should do a dark Pharo.org :-) Phil On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 9:11 PM, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Actually what you say makes no sense to me because my monitor is already > at bare minimum. Its not the intensity, its the contrast. The problem > obviously is not an exposure of 30 minutes. The mail I am writing now has > a white background. But its not a problem because I spent an 1 hour tops > with email total time. I would like if Gmail had a dark theme but its no > big deal. However when one spent more than 8 hours it becomes a problem. > > It was the same when I was studying in UK law. I was very used into > reading english because the vast majority of the coding books I had bought > and reading since I was 13 years old were in english. It was not a problem > reading for an hour, but after 5 hours both my eyes and brain were tired. > Its that extra effort that accumulates hour by hour and the more time you > spent, the more obvious it becomes. 5 hours reading a book in my mother > tongue is like night and day. > > So when I was spending a lot of hours working with Pharo the white them > did became a major problem for me. Its not as if I see a light theme and > after a few minutes I scream in pain "Oh my eyes are burning" :D > > > > On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 9:55 PM Peter UhnÃ¡k <i.uhnak(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Or you people can just dim your screen instead of staring into a 60W >> lightbulb... then the theme doesn't matter. >> >> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 8:38 PM, Alexandre Bergel < >> alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: >> >>> Upsâ¦ I think this FIT file format is for something elseâ¦ >>> >>> Alexandre >>> -- >>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Aug 28, 2017, at 3:36 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Phil, >>> >>> Yes, I wrote a FIT file parser. FIT is used to store âscientificâ >>> images, in particular for astronomy and medicine. >>> Do you want the code? >>> >>> Alexandre >>> -- >>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Aug 28, 2017, at 9:36 AM, phil(a)highoctane.be wrote: >>> >>> You can eat eggs all you want provided you burn the calories. They are >>> shock full of amino acids. >>> >>> Cholesterol is a precursor of testosterone, so, no cholesterol is going >>> to put a man in a bad place. >>> >>> Eggs and heavy deadlifts and squats. Yay, feel the burn. >>> >>> Speaking of which: anyone have a .fit file binding for Pharo? >>> >>> See this forum thread for a clue: https://www.thisisant. >>> com/forum/viewthread/4275 >>> >>> Roassal + Dataframe on fit files would be a great thing to have. >>> >>> Phil >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 2:20 PM, Dimitris Chloupis < >>> kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Nutrition wise, scientists always agreed that eggs contained pretty >>>> much everything the body needs. Problem was cholesterol which the egg does >>>> significant rise. >>>> >>>> The fact that did change was that high cholesterol is bad, some doctors >>>> would argue even deadly for ones health. Problem was that this fact was >>>> based on a research that was on a very small group of subjects and if I am >>>> not mistaken it was not even humans it was lab rats. >>>> >>>> The problem none really funded a serious research for this fact and >>>> when they did they discovered that indeed eggs and other food do raise >>>> cholesterol significantly but our liver is capable of reducing the >>>> production of cholesterol to compensate hence its nowhere near as harmful >>>> as they used to assume. >>>> >>>> Science is flawed mainly because finding small facts is easy and cheap >>>> but general fact are very complex and very very expensive. >>>> >>>> Like all things, you get what you are paying for. This is why you see >>>> and hear so many contradictory facts. They are mostly based on simple cheap >>>> research. Plus "fact" is purely a fantasy, our world is too complex for >>>> facts as most people define them. There is truth sure, but not as easy to >>>> consume and explain as we would wish. >>>> >>>> The preference to light and dark themes is not product of bad >>>> scientific research. I suspect the reasons are too complex for science >>>> anyway because we are even eons away from explaining the human brain and >>>> how it works. >>>> >>>> Pharo not only allow you to choose a theme but its theme classes are >>>> actually very easy to use which is something it inherit from Squeak. It >>>> took me a day to create my own theme. >>>> >>>> The Dark UI theme class is excellent example for anyone who wants to >>>> subclass it and create his own light or dark theme because its not that >>>> complex. >>>> >>>> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 2:57 PM Davorin Rusevljan < >>>> davorin.rusevljan(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> If I can throw in my 2c, themes are like nutrition facts. When I was a >>>>> kid eggs were the healthiest thing to consume in universe. Then they were a >>>>> root of all evil, and now days are nutrition packed food. >>>>> >>>>> I have observed similar circles in background color usability. Pharo >>>>> has ability to choose a theme, it has both currently fashionable and older >>>>> ones to choose from. I do not see need for anything else on that front. >>>>> >>>>> Davorin Rusevljan >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>

Aug. 28, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] Dark Mode

by phil＠highoctane.be

Dimming a LED screen is a bad idea. It flickers because of PWM. My older Dell CCFL monitor feels better than brand new LED things with brightness down. http://www.flatpanelshd.com/focus.php?subaction=showfull&id=1362457985 Nvidia drivers are indeed a good thing! Phil On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 8:54 PM, Peter UhnÃ¡k <i.uhnak(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Or you people can just dim your screen instead of staring into a 60W > lightbulb... then the theme doesn't matter. > > On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 8:38 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com > > wrote: > >> Upsâ¦ I think this FIT file format is for something elseâ¦ >> >> Alexandre >> -- >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >> >> >> >> On Aug 28, 2017, at 3:36 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> >> wrote: >> >> Hi Phil, >> >> Yes, I wrote a FIT file parser. FIT is used to store âscientificâ images, >> in particular for astronomy and medicine. >> Do you want the code? >> >> Alexandre >> -- >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >> >> >> >> On Aug 28, 2017, at 9:36 AM, phil(a)highoctane.be wrote: >> >> You can eat eggs all you want provided you burn the calories. They are >> shock full of amino acids. >> >> Cholesterol is a precursor of testosterone, so, no cholesterol is going >> to put a man in a bad place. >> >> Eggs and heavy deadlifts and squats. Yay, feel the burn. >> >> Speaking of which: anyone have a .fit file binding for Pharo? >> >> See this forum thread for a clue: https://www.thisisant.co >> m/forum/viewthread/4275 >> >> Roassal + Dataframe on fit files would be a great thing to have. >> >> Phil >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 2:20 PM, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com >> > wrote: >> >>> Nutrition wise, scientists always agreed that eggs contained pretty much >>> everything the body needs. Problem was cholesterol which the egg does >>> significant rise. >>> >>> The fact that did change was that high cholesterol is bad, some doctors >>> would argue even deadly for ones health. Problem was that this fact was >>> based on a research that was on a very small group of subjects and if I am >>> not mistaken it was not even humans it was lab rats. >>> >>> The problem none really funded a serious research for this fact and when >>> they did they discovered that indeed eggs and other food do raise >>> cholesterol significantly but our liver is capable of reducing the >>> production of cholesterol to compensate hence its nowhere near as harmful >>> as they used to assume. >>> >>> Science is flawed mainly because finding small facts is easy and cheap >>> but general fact are very complex and very very expensive. >>> >>> Like all things, you get what you are paying for. This is why you see >>> and hear so many contradictory facts. They are mostly based on simple cheap >>> research. Plus "fact" is purely a fantasy, our world is too complex for >>> facts as most people define them. There is truth sure, but not as easy to >>> consume and explain as we would wish. >>> >>> The preference to light and dark themes is not product of bad scientific >>> research. I suspect the reasons are too complex for science anyway because >>> we are even eons away from explaining the human brain and how it works. >>> >>> Pharo not only allow you to choose a theme but its theme classes are >>> actually very easy to use which is something it inherit from Squeak. It >>> took me a day to create my own theme. >>> >>> The Dark UI theme class is excellent example for anyone who wants to >>> subclass it and create his own light or dark theme because its not that >>> complex. >>> >>> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 2:57 PM Davorin Rusevljan < >>> davorin.rusevljan(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> If I can throw in my 2c, themes are like nutrition facts. When I was a >>>> kid eggs were the healthiest thing to consume in universe. Then they were a >>>> root of all evil, and now days are nutrition packed food. >>>> >>>> I have observed similar circles in background color usability. Pharo >>>> has ability to choose a theme, it has both currently fashionable and older >>>> ones to choose from. I do not see need for anything else on that front. >>>> >>>> Davorin Rusevljan >>>> >>> >> >> >> >

Aug. 28, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] Dark Mode

by phil＠highoctane.be

Alexandre, Sure, I have swimming files from my Garmin Swim watch and I'd love to graph them in Roassal/Datatable/Pharo. Hope we are talking about the same format. Phil On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 8:36 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: > Hi Phil, > > Yes, I wrote a FIT file parser. FIT is used to store âscientificâ images, > in particular for astronomy and medicine. > Do you want the code? > > Alexandre > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > On Aug 28, 2017, at 9:36 AM, phil(a)highoctane.be wrote: > > You can eat eggs all you want provided you burn the calories. They are > shock full of amino acids. > > Cholesterol is a precursor of testosterone, so, no cholesterol is going to > put a man in a bad place. > > Eggs and heavy deadlifts and squats. Yay, feel the burn. > > Speaking of which: anyone have a .fit file binding for Pharo? > > See this forum thread for a clue: https://www.thisisant. > com/forum/viewthread/4275 > > Roassal + Dataframe on fit files would be a great thing to have. > > Phil > > > > > > On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 2:20 PM, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Nutrition wise, scientists always agreed that eggs contained pretty much >> everything the body needs. Problem was cholesterol which the egg does >> significant rise. >> >> The fact that did change was that high cholesterol is bad, some doctors >> would argue even deadly for ones health. Problem was that this fact was >> based on a research that was on a very small group of subjects and if I am >> not mistaken it was not even humans it was lab rats. >> >> The problem none really funded a serious research for this fact and when >> they did they discovered that indeed eggs and other food do raise >> cholesterol significantly but our liver is capable of reducing the >> production of cholesterol to compensate hence its nowhere near as harmful >> as they used to assume. >> >> Science is flawed mainly because finding small facts is easy and cheap >> but general fact are very complex and very very expensive. >> >> Like all things, you get what you are paying for. This is why you see and >> hear so many contradictory facts. They are mostly based on simple cheap >> research. Plus "fact" is purely a fantasy, our world is too complex for >> facts as most people define them. There is truth sure, but not as easy to >> consume and explain as we would wish. >> >> The preference to light and dark themes is not product of bad scientific >> research. I suspect the reasons are too complex for science anyway because >> we are even eons away from explaining the human brain and how it works. >> >> Pharo not only allow you to choose a theme but its theme classes are >> actually very easy to use which is something it inherit from Squeak. It >> took me a day to create my own theme. >> >> The Dark UI theme class is excellent example for anyone who wants to >> subclass it and create his own light or dark theme because its not that >> complex. >> >> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 2:57 PM Davorin Rusevljan < >> davorin.rusevljan(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> If I can throw in my 2c, themes are like nutrition facts. When I was a >>> kid eggs were the healthiest thing to consume in universe. Then they were a >>> root of all evil, and now days are nutrition packed food. >>> >>> I have observed similar circles in background color usability. Pharo has >>> ability to choose a theme, it has both currently fashionable and older ones >>> to choose from. I do not see need for anything else on that front. >>> >>> Davorin Rusevljan >>> >> > >

Aug. 28, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] The Spec UI Framework. first translation to korean finish.

by Stephane Ducasse

Hi Peter 1 We use luatex because of font encoding problems :). 2 We are using texlive 2016 3 Did you try the docker that damien pollet created because it encapsulates latex Damien used also memoir for the book template. 4 can you send me a little example of a latex file with korean we can try. You do not need to know smacc and pillar is like markdown. BTW two important points 1 Thanks for your trust in Pharo. 2 if you want to translate the Mooc teaser video in Korean, we have spanish, french, japanese, spanish, ukrainian and portuguese for the moment. Stef Stef On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 6:34 AM, peter yoo <onionmixer(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I do not know if it is possible or impossible. because: > > 1. failed to compile the SPEC UI Framework. Xetex would have caught the > error, but I do not know about luatex. > 2. I am using texlive 2017 with gentoo linux. > 3. In Korea, when making a book, in most cases it is using an oblivior that > has developed a memoir. > 4. In most cases, TeX is used to specify the font in consideration of the > CJK environment. > > > If you set some basics, I will join you in the future. However, I do not > know smacc, pillar, etc.

Aug. 28, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo wiki , is here

by Dimitris Chloupis

well i linked to the job so people can choose the format they like pdf or html, so i see no need to change it. On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 2:38 PM H. Hirzel <hannes.hirzel(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Dimitris > > Please add a direct link to the Pillar chapter on the integration server > > > https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/EnterprisePharoBook/lastSuccessf… > > The current link on the Pharo books web site is broken and this seems > to be the main piece of documentation about Pillar. > > --Hannes > > On 8/26/17, Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas <offray.luna(a)mutabit.com> wrote: > > Thanks for keep me posted about your experiments. I would like to know > > where the current interface doesn't suit your needs/tastes and how easy > > was to use/extend the tool. I think that mind mapping problem would be > > particularly well suited for your GUI approaches. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Offray > > > > > > On 26/08/17 14:53, Dimitris Chloupis wrote: > >> mind mapping is an interest of mine too, though i never tried to make > >> one app for it yet. Ok will see if I will go down the Grafoscopio > >> route and will keep you posted. I was thinking using it as an in-image > >> interface for the wiki. > >> > >> On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 10:15 PM Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas > >> <offray.luna(a)mutabit.com <mailto:offray.luna@mutabit.com>> wrote: > >> > >> That would be pretty interesting and yes, it is under MIT. > >> > >> On custom GUI's I have thought about a mind mapping interface for > >> Grafoscopio, for presentations. I would like to stretch the > >> tree/graph metaphor so it can make what we do with different > >> metaphors right now on "offimatics" (writing, calculation and > >> presentation), so this custom metaphors are interesting to me. > >> > >> Cheers, > >> > >> Offray > >> > >> > >> On 26/08/17 12:28, Dimitris Chloupis wrote: > >>> How would you feel if I took grafoscopio and made a custom GUI > >>> for it, mainly for personal usage ? Does it use the MIT license ? > >>> > >>> On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 6:56 PM Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas > >>> <offray.luna(a)mutabit.com <mailto:offray.luna@mutabit.com>> wrote: > >>> > >>> No it can't. Grafoscopio Markdown nodes just plain text boxes > >>> with Markdown code inside, but I would like to have at least > >>> syntax hightlighting for it. What Grafoscopio can do is to > >>> traverse a tree and process node headers as markdown titles, > >>> footnotes and others to produce a flat Markdown file to be > >>> processed by Pandoc. Also, thanks to special %metadata nodes > >>> in the tree, Grafoscopio can control & feedback the Pandoc > >>> command line options *inside* the notebook, increasing > >>> reproducibility, just by using plain Pharo dictionaries and > >>> dynamic arrays. Then, you can use the Notebook menu to export > >>> as PDF by running such options from the GUI. > >>> > >>> Cheers, > >>> > >>> Offray > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On 26/08/17 10:31, Dimitris Chloupis wrote: > >>>> Grafoscopio can display markdown files ? > >>>> > >>>> On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 5:38 PM Offray Vladimir Luna > >>>> CÃ¡rdenas <offray.luna(a)mutabit.com > >>>> <mailto:offray.luna@mutabit.com>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Dimitris, > >>>> > >>>> I understand your practical reasons to have Markdown > >>>> over Pillar and in fact I have advocated several of > >>>> them. As I have said, Markdown ubiquity for complete > >>>> documentation workflows (including complete books) is > >>>> similar to git ubiquity for code. Despite having other > >>>> personal preferences in markup and DVCS, I think is > >>>> strategic to give them support in Pharo, without > >>>> precluding any work on our own tools (Monticello, > >>>> Metacello, Pillar, etc.). > >>>> > >>>> I'll try to make some experiments with integration of > >>>> Documenter in Grafoscopio and Markdown. They'll advance > >>>> slowly, because time constrains now that I'm trying to > >>>> finish my thesis, but once a week I'll try to show > >>>> advancements and make questions. > >>>> > >>>> Cheers, > >>>> > >>>> Offray > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On 26/08/17 01:55, Dimitris Chloupis wrote: > >>>>> As I said the format is not so important for me, the > >>>>> reason why I chose markdown instead of pillar is > >>>>> because you can edit it using github web interface > >>>>> making it easier. The books will continue to use > >>>>> Pillar, because making a book is obviously a lot more > >>>>> sophisticated than creating a wiki that mainly has web > >>>>> links to various internet locations. Pillar already can > >>>>> export to markdown , latex, html and through latex it > >>>>> can also export to pdf. > >>>>> > >>>>> After Stef requested it, I moved the wiki inside the > >>>>> pharo git repository here > >>>>> > >>>>> https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo > >>>>> > >>>>> I also added a link to it inside the git wiki of pharo > >>>>> > >>>>> https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/wiki > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 2:17 AM Offray Vladimir Luna > >>>>> CÃ¡rdenas <offray.luna(a)mutabit.com > >>>>> <mailto:offray.luna@mutabit.com>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> So, we're going to have Markdown for the wiki and > >>>>> probably for documentation (via GitBooks)..., which > >>>>> is not surprising considering the vast amount of > >>>>> support such documentation format has and the > >>>>> extensions for a complete documentation toolchain > >>>>> and features. As I said, I think that is an > >>>>> important syntax and we should put Scholarly/Pandoc > >>>>> Markdown in the radar for documentation support in > >>>>> Pharo. Is what I'm doing with Grafoscopio and now > >>>>> that Pillar support is again taking momentum, the > >>>>> infrastructure there (parsers, highlighters, > >>>>> editors) could be extended to support Pandoc's > >>>>> Markdown. > >>>>> > >>>>> I'll keep you posted. > >>>>> > >>>>> Cheers, > >>>>> > >>>>> Offray > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On 24/08/17 17:59, Dimitris Chloupis wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 11:32 PM Stephane Ducasse > >>>>>> <stepharo.self(a)gmail.com > >>>>>> <mailto:stepharo.self@gmail.com>> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> You have Netstyle/Workflow too. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> done > >>>>>> > >>>>>> "Why are you using markup documents to create the > >>>>>> wiki when you could > >>>>>> use Github wiki itself? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> For portability?" > >>>>>> > >>>>>> good question. Yes for flexibility , another > >>>>>> reason however is that Github wiki is a separate > >>>>>> repo and I did not want that because in the very > >>>>>> back of my head I am considering the option of > >>>>>> creating software to allow access to wiki from > >>>>>> inside Pharo and I wanted to be all (content and > >>>>>> code) in the same repo. Its a very low priority > >>>>>> for now. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Also Github wiki is basically the same as I am > >>>>>> doing with some extra format (table of contents) , > >>>>>> in my case I dont care because Github allows me to > >>>>>> define HTML templates that will format the wiki > >>>>>> webpage and make it look a a lot more polished > >>>>>> that pharo wiki looks like. Generally there are > >>>>>> some cool stuff you can do with Markdown and > >>>>>> Github , plus the fact that markdown can embed > >>>>>> HTML etc. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> There is also the option of Gitbook which has some > >>>>>> nice features for generating polished and well > >>>>>> structured documentation. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> So I like to keep my options open. For now I am > >>>>>> focusing 100% on content. > >>>>> > >>>> > >>> > >> > > > > > >

Aug. 28, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] Dark Mode

by Dimitris Chloupis

Actually what you say makes no sense to me because my monitor is already at bare minimum. Its not the intensity, its the contrast. The problem obviously is not an exposure of 30 minutes. The mail I am writing now has a white background. But its not a problem because I spent an 1 hour tops with email total time. I would like if Gmail had a dark theme but its no big deal. However when one spent more than 8 hours it becomes a problem. It was the same when I was studying in UK law. I was very used into reading english because the vast majority of the coding books I had bought and reading since I was 13 years old were in english. It was not a problem reading for an hour, but after 5 hours both my eyes and brain were tired. Its that extra effort that accumulates hour by hour and the more time you spent, the more obvious it becomes. 5 hours reading a book in my mother tongue is like night and day. So when I was spending a lot of hours working with Pharo the white them did became a major problem for me. Its not as if I see a light theme and after a few minutes I scream in pain "Oh my eyes are burning" :D On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 9:55 PM Peter UhnÃ¡k <i.uhnak(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Or you people can just dim your screen instead of staring into a 60W > lightbulb... then the theme doesn't matter. > > On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 8:38 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com > > wrote: > >> Upsâ¦ I think this FIT file format is for something elseâ¦ >> >> Alexandre >> -- >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >> >> >> >> On Aug 28, 2017, at 3:36 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> >> wrote: >> >> Hi Phil, >> >> Yes, I wrote a FIT file parser. FIT is used to store âscientificâ images, >> in particular for astronomy and medicine. >> Do you want the code? >> >> Alexandre >> -- >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >> >> >> >> On Aug 28, 2017, at 9:36 AM, phil(a)highoctane.be wrote: >> >> You can eat eggs all you want provided you burn the calories. They are >> shock full of amino acids. >> >> Cholesterol is a precursor of testosterone, so, no cholesterol is going >> to put a man in a bad place. >> >> Eggs and heavy deadlifts and squats. Yay, feel the burn. >> >> Speaking of which: anyone have a .fit file binding for Pharo? >> >> See this forum thread for a clue: >> https://www.thisisant.com/forum/viewthread/4275 >> >> Roassal + Dataframe on fit files would be a great thing to have. >> >> Phil >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 2:20 PM, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com >> > wrote: >> >>> Nutrition wise, scientists always agreed that eggs contained pretty much >>> everything the body needs. Problem was cholesterol which the egg does >>> significant rise. >>> >>> The fact that did change was that high cholesterol is bad, some doctors >>> would argue even deadly for ones health. Problem was that this fact was >>> based on a research that was on a very small group of subjects and if I am >>> not mistaken it was not even humans it was lab rats. >>> >>> The problem none really funded a serious research for this fact and when >>> they did they discovered that indeed eggs and other food do raise >>> cholesterol significantly but our liver is capable of reducing the >>> production of cholesterol to compensate hence its nowhere near as harmful >>> as they used to assume. >>> >>> Science is flawed mainly because finding small facts is easy and cheap >>> but general fact are very complex and very very expensive. >>> >>> Like all things, you get what you are paying for. This is why you see >>> and hear so many contradictory facts. They are mostly based on simple cheap >>> research. Plus "fact" is purely a fantasy, our world is too complex for >>> facts as most people define them. There is truth sure, but not as easy to >>> consume and explain as we would wish. >>> >>> The preference to light and dark themes is not product of bad scientific >>> research. I suspect the reasons are too complex for science anyway because >>> we are even eons away from explaining the human brain and how it works. >>> >>> Pharo not only allow you to choose a theme but its theme classes are >>> actually very easy to use which is something it inherit from Squeak. It >>> took me a day to create my own theme. >>> >>> The Dark UI theme class is excellent example for anyone who wants to >>> subclass it and create his own light or dark theme because its not that >>> complex. >>> >>> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 2:57 PM Davorin Rusevljan < >>> davorin.rusevljan(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> If I can throw in my 2c, themes are like nutrition facts. When I was a >>>> kid eggs were the healthiest thing to consume in universe. Then they were a >>>> root of all evil, and now days are nutrition packed food. >>>> >>>> I have observed similar circles in background color usability. Pharo >>>> has ability to choose a theme, it has both currently fashionable and older >>>> ones to choose from. I do not see need for anything else on that front. >>>> >>>> Davorin Rusevljan >>>> >>> >> >> >> >

Aug. 28, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] Dark Mode

by Peter UhnÃ¡k

Or you people can just dim your screen instead of staring into a 60W lightbulb... then the theme doesn't matter. On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 8:38 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: > Upsâ¦ I think this FIT file format is for something elseâ¦ > > Alexandre > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > On Aug 28, 2017, at 3:36 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> > wrote: > > Hi Phil, > > Yes, I wrote a FIT file parser. FIT is used to store âscientificâ images, > in particular for astronomy and medicine. > Do you want the code? > > Alexandre > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > On Aug 28, 2017, at 9:36 AM, phil(a)highoctane.be wrote: > > You can eat eggs all you want provided you burn the calories. They are > shock full of amino acids. > > Cholesterol is a precursor of testosterone, so, no cholesterol is going to > put a man in a bad place. > > Eggs and heavy deadlifts and squats. Yay, feel the burn. > > Speaking of which: anyone have a .fit file binding for Pharo? > > See this forum thread for a clue: https://www.thisisant. > com/forum/viewthread/4275 > > Roassal + Dataframe on fit files would be a great thing to have. > > Phil > > > > > > On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 2:20 PM, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Nutrition wise, scientists always agreed that eggs contained pretty much >> everything the body needs. Problem was cholesterol which the egg does >> significant rise. >> >> The fact that did change was that high cholesterol is bad, some doctors >> would argue even deadly for ones health. Problem was that this fact was >> based on a research that was on a very small group of subjects and if I am >> not mistaken it was not even humans it was lab rats. >> >> The problem none really funded a serious research for this fact and when >> they did they discovered that indeed eggs and other food do raise >> cholesterol significantly but our liver is capable of reducing the >> production of cholesterol to compensate hence its nowhere near as harmful >> as they used to assume. >> >> Science is flawed mainly because finding small facts is easy and cheap >> but general fact are very complex and very very expensive. >> >> Like all things, you get what you are paying for. This is why you see and >> hear so many contradictory facts. They are mostly based on simple cheap >> research. Plus "fact" is purely a fantasy, our world is too complex for >> facts as most people define them. There is truth sure, but not as easy to >> consume and explain as we would wish. >> >> The preference to light and dark themes is not product of bad scientific >> research. I suspect the reasons are too complex for science anyway because >> we are even eons away from explaining the human brain and how it works. >> >> Pharo not only allow you to choose a theme but its theme classes are >> actually very easy to use which is something it inherit from Squeak. It >> took me a day to create my own theme. >> >> The Dark UI theme class is excellent example for anyone who wants to >> subclass it and create his own light or dark theme because its not that >> complex. >> >> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 2:57 PM Davorin Rusevljan < >> davorin.rusevljan(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> If I can throw in my 2c, themes are like nutrition facts. When I was a >>> kid eggs were the healthiest thing to consume in universe. Then they were a >>> root of all evil, and now days are nutrition packed food. >>> >>> I have observed similar circles in background color usability. Pharo has >>> ability to choose a theme, it has both currently fashionable and older ones >>> to choose from. I do not see need for anything else on that front. >>> >>> Davorin Rusevljan >>> >> > > >

Aug. 28, 2017

constraining dragging movement of Morph Windows

by Peter UhnÃ¡k

Hi, is it possible to somehow "constraint" the movement of windows (Nautilus, Playground, ..., SystemWindow, ...)? E.g. I want for them to only move (or "snap") only at steps of e.g. 20 pixels. So sort of snap-to-20-pixel-grid behavior. Thanks, Peter

Aug. 28, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] Dark Mode

by Alexandre Bergel

Upsâ¦ I think this FIT file format is for something elseâ¦ Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > On Aug 28, 2017, at 3:36 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: > > Hi Phil, > > Yes, I wrote a FIT file parser. FIT is used to store âscientificâ images, in particular for astronomy and medicine. > Do you want the code? > > Alexandre > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu <http://www.bergel.eu/> > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > >> On Aug 28, 2017, at 9:36 AM, phil(a)highoctane.be <mailto:phil@highoctane.be> wrote: >> >> You can eat eggs all you want provided you burn the calories. They are shock full of amino acids. >> >> Cholesterol is a precursor of testosterone, so, no cholesterol is going to put a man in a bad place. >> >> Eggs and heavy deadlifts and squats. Yay, feel the burn. >> >> Speaking of which: anyone have a .fit file binding for Pharo? >> >> See this forum thread for a clue: https://www.thisisant.com/forum/viewthread/4275 <https://www.thisisant.com/forum/viewthread/4275> >> >> Roassal + Dataframe on fit files would be a great thing to have. >> >> Phil >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 2:20 PM, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com <mailto:kilon.alios@gmail.com>> wrote: >> Nutrition wise, scientists always agreed that eggs contained pretty much everything the body needs. Problem was cholesterol which the egg does significant rise. >> >> The fact that did change was that high cholesterol is bad, some doctors would argue even deadly for ones health. Problem was that this fact was based on a research that was on a very small group of subjects and if I am not mistaken it was not even humans it was lab rats. >> >> The problem none really funded a serious research for this fact and when they did they discovered that indeed eggs and other food do raise cholesterol significantly but our liver is capable of reducing the production of cholesterol to compensate hence its nowhere near as harmful as they used to assume. >> >> Science is flawed mainly because finding small facts is easy and cheap but general fact are very complex and very very expensive. >> >> Like all things, you get what you are paying for. This is why you see and hear so many contradictory facts. They are mostly based on simple cheap research. Plus "fact" is purely a fantasy, our world is too complex for facts as most people define them. There is truth sure, but not as easy to consume and explain as we would wish. >> >> The preference to light and dark themes is not product of bad scientific research. I suspect the reasons are too complex for science anyway because we are even eons away from explaining the human brain and how it works. >> >> Pharo not only allow you to choose a theme but its theme classes are actually very easy to use which is something it inherit from Squeak. It took me a day to create my own theme. >> >> The Dark UI theme class is excellent example for anyone who wants to subclass it and create his own light or dark theme because its not that complex. >> >> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 2:57 PM Davorin Rusevljan <davorin.rusevljan(a)gmail.com <mailto:davorin.rusevljan@gmail.com>> wrote: >> If I can throw in my 2c, themes are like nutrition facts. When I was a kid eggs were the healthiest thing to consume in universe. Then they were a root of all evil, and now days are nutrition packed food. >> >> I have observed similar circles in background color usability. Pharo has ability to choose a theme, it has both currently fashionable and older ones to choose from. I do not see need for anything else on that front. >> >> Davorin Rusevljan >> >

Aug. 28, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] Dark Mode

by Alexandre Bergel

Hi Phil, Yes, I wrote a FIT file parser. FIT is used to store âscientificâ images, in particular for astronomy and medicine. Do you want the code? Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > On Aug 28, 2017, at 9:36 AM, phil(a)highoctane.be wrote: > > You can eat eggs all you want provided you burn the calories. They are shock full of amino acids. > > Cholesterol is a precursor of testosterone, so, no cholesterol is going to put a man in a bad place. > > Eggs and heavy deadlifts and squats. Yay, feel the burn. > > Speaking of which: anyone have a .fit file binding for Pharo? > > See this forum thread for a clue: https://www.thisisant.com/forum/viewthread/4275 <https://www.thisisant.com/forum/viewthread/4275> > > Roassal + Dataframe on fit files would be a great thing to have. > > Phil > > > > > > On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 2:20 PM, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com <mailto:kilon.alios@gmail.com>> wrote: > Nutrition wise, scientists always agreed that eggs contained pretty much everything the body needs. Problem was cholesterol which the egg does significant rise. > > The fact that did change was that high cholesterol is bad, some doctors would argue even deadly for ones health. Problem was that this fact was based on a research that was on a very small group of subjects and if I am not mistaken it was not even humans it was lab rats. > > The problem none really funded a serious research for this fact and when they did they discovered that indeed eggs and other food do raise cholesterol significantly but our liver is capable of reducing the production of cholesterol to compensate hence its nowhere near as harmful as they used to assume. > > Science is flawed mainly because finding small facts is easy and cheap but general fact are very complex and very very expensive. > > Like all things, you get what you are paying for. This is why you see and hear so many contradictory facts. They are mostly based on simple cheap research. Plus "fact" is purely a fantasy, our world is too complex for facts as most people define them. There is truth sure, but not as easy to consume and explain as we would wish. > > The preference to light and dark themes is not product of bad scientific research. I suspect the reasons are too complex for science anyway because we are even eons away from explaining the human brain and how it works. > > Pharo not only allow you to choose a theme but its theme classes are actually very easy to use which is something it inherit from Squeak. It took me a day to create my own theme. > > The Dark UI theme class is excellent example for anyone who wants to subclass it and create his own light or dark theme because its not that complex. > > On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 2:57 PM Davorin Rusevljan <davorin.rusevljan(a)gmail.com <mailto:davorin.rusevljan@gmail.com>> wrote: > If I can throw in my 2c, themes are like nutrition facts. When I was a kid eggs were the healthiest thing to consume in universe. Then they were a root of all evil, and now days are nutrition packed food. > > I have observed similar circles in background color usability. Pharo has ability to choose a theme, it has both currently fashionable and older ones to choose from. I do not see need for anything else on that front. > > Davorin Rusevljan >

Aug. 28, 2017