August 2017 - Pharo-users - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-users] Zn classes documentation in Pharo 6? ZnClient and ZnServer tutorials?

by H. Hirzel

On 8/25/17, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: > Hannes, > > Zinc HTTP Components started in 2010 and has been part of Pharo since > version 1.3. Like Pharo it evolves (no longer on a fundamental level, but > certainly on features and details). Over the years lots of documentation has > been written, not all of it is still maintained. > > I would say the Enterprise Pharo book chapters (Web App, Client, Server) are > the best place to start if you are new this subject. Sven, thank you for the confirmation that these are most relevant documentation entry points for Zinc components to use for web programming. Zinc HTTP: The Client Side [1] Zinc HTTP: The Server Side [3] --Hannes > > But for the latest details/features the source code (comments) is the most > up to date reference. Every feature that I add, every bug that I fix has a > unit test to cover it that also serves as a living example. Class usages and > method senders are your friend. I comment all classes and all public > methods. > > Sven > >> On 25 Aug 2017, at 11:28, H. Hirzel <hannes.hirzel(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hello >> >> Zn classes are included in Pharo 6. I did not find a link to the main >> documentation in the help system. >> >> Is >> http://zn.stfx.eu/zn/index.html >> >> still the main document? >> >> The class comment of ZnClient includes an example. I am looking for >> have some more examples / explanations how to use >> >> ZnClient >> >> ? >> >> Is this the chapter in the EnterprisePharoBook [1] the main >> documentation? >> >> >> As for the ZnServer, is [2] or [3] more relevant? >> >> Summarized: What is the main reference to the documenation of >> >> ZnClient and ZnServer? >> >> Thank you in advance >> >> Hannes >> >> [1] >> https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/EnterprisePharoBook/lastSuccessf… >> >> [2] http://zn.stfx.eu/zn/build-and-deploy-1st-webapp/ >> [3] >> https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/EnterprisePharoBook/lastSuccessf… >> > > >

Aug. 25, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] Tutorial: Building and deploying your first web app with Pharo (Zinc HTTP Components)

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

> On 25 Aug 2017, at 11:35, H. Hirzel <hannes.hirzel(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hello > > There is a tutorial > Building and deploying your first web app with Pharo > > at > zn.stfx.eu/zn/index.html > > It is for Pharo 2 and 3. > > Does it still work in Pharo 6? Yes, but this document is more recent: https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/EnterprisePharoBook/lastSuccessf… ZnImageExampleDelegate is even part of the standard Zn distribution. > Regards > Hannes >

Aug. 25, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] Zn classes documentation in Pharo 6? ZnClient and ZnServer tutorials?

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

Hannes, Zinc HTTP Components started in 2010 and has been part of Pharo since version 1.3. Like Pharo it evolves (no longer on a fundamental level, but certainly on features and details). Over the years lots of documentation has been written, not all of it is still maintained. I would say the Enterprise Pharo book chapters (Web App, Client, Server) are the best place to start if you are new this subject. But for the latest details/features the source code (comments) is the most up to date reference. Every feature that I add, every bug that I fix has a unit test to cover it that also serves as a living example. Class usages and method senders are your friend. I comment all classes and all public methods. Sven > On 25 Aug 2017, at 11:28, H. Hirzel <hannes.hirzel(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hello > > Zn classes are included in Pharo 6. I did not find a link to the main > documentation in the help system. > > Is > http://zn.stfx.eu/zn/index.html > > still the main document? > > The class comment of ZnClient includes an example. I am looking for > have some more examples / explanations how to use > > ZnClient > > ? > > Is this the chapter in the EnterprisePharoBook [1] the main documentation? > > > As for the ZnServer, is [2] or [3] more relevant? > > Summarized: What is the main reference to the documenation of > > ZnClient and ZnServer? > > Thank you in advance > > Hannes > > [1] https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/EnterprisePharoBook/lastSuccessf… > > [2] http://zn.stfx.eu/zn/build-and-deploy-1st-webapp/ > [3] https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/EnterprisePharoBook/lastSuccessf… >

Aug. 25, 2017

Tutorial: Building and deploying your first web app with Pharo (Zinc HTTP Components)

by H. Hirzel

Hello There is a tutorial Building and deploying your first web app with Pharo at zn.stfx.eu/zn/index.html It is for Pharo 2 and 3. Does it still work in Pharo 6? Regards Hannes

Aug. 25, 2017

Zn classes documentation in Pharo 6? ZnClient and ZnServer tutorials?

by H. Hirzel

Hello Zn classes are included in Pharo 6. I did not find a link to the main documentation in the help system. Is http://zn.stfx.eu/zn/index.html still the main document? The class comment of ZnClient includes an example. I am looking for have some more examples / explanations how to use ZnClient ? Is this the chapter in the EnterprisePharoBook [1] the main documentation? As for the ZnServer, is [2] or [3] more relevant? Summarized: What is the main reference to the documenation of ZnClient and ZnServer? Thank you in advance Hannes [1] https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/EnterprisePharoBook/lastSuccessf… [2] http://zn.stfx.eu/zn/build-and-deploy-1st-webapp/ [3] https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/EnterprisePharoBook/lastSuccessf…

Aug. 25, 2017

Call for Spanish/ Portuguese and more subtitles for the PharoMooc

by Stephane Ducasse

Hi guys The Pharo is a wonderful vehicule to promote Pharo and we need your help to translate the subtitles to different languages. This year we will have english voices paid by Inria (thanks) but we cannot do everything and we need your help. https://github.com/SquareBracketAssociates/PharoMooc/tree/master/Subtitles Stef

Aug. 25, 2017

Morphic renderer for Pillar?

by H. Hirzel

Hello Stephane On 8/24/17, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self(a)gmail.com> wrote: [...] > > This is good that there is Section 7 this in the doc. [1] We started to > build a simple Morphic renderer for Pillar. > We should continue. If someone wants to have fun. This would be nice > to have see it coming to live. I am interested in this. Where is the code? BTW if other people want to do a Pillar renderer for Bloc I have no problem with that..... :-; [...] Regards --Hannes [1] https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/EnterprisePharoBook/lastSuccessf…

Aug. 25, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo wiki , is here

by H. Hirzel

On 8/25/17, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 11:32 PM Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> You have Netstyle/Workflow too. >> > > done > > "Why are you using markup documents to create the wiki when you could > use Github wiki itself? > > For portability?" > > good question. Yes for flexibility , another reason however is that Github > wiki is a separate repo and I did not want that because in the very back of > my head I am considering the option of creating software to allow access to > wiki from inside Pharo and I wanted to be all (content and code) in the > same repo. Its a very low priority for now. > > Also Github wiki is basically the same as I am doing with some extra format > (table of contents) , in my case I dont care because Github allows me to > define HTML templates that will format the wiki webpage and make it look a > a lot more polished that pharo wiki looks like. Generally there are some > cool stuff you can do with Markdown and Github , plus the fact that > markdown can embed HTML etc. +1 > There is also the option of Gitbook which has some nice features for > generating polished and well structured documentation. +1 > So I like to keep my options open. For now I am focusing 100% on content. +10

Aug. 25, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] Where do I find a Pillar syntax summary?

by H. Hirzel

At the moment my interest is to have a description of all the Pillar syntax features Pharo 5 and 6 supports. a) in an example document b) as a list As for Pillar syntax versions: I can imagine that there have been changes in the past. I just don't know. And there might be changes in the future. So a version indication is helpful even if it just says that Pharo 6 supports the same Pillar version as it was in Pharo x (x = 2,3,4,5 ?). On 8/24/17, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Good suggestion. > Now I have no time for pillar per se. Now if you do it I will add it > to pillar without hesitation. > Tomorrow we will > use bintray for all the projects to save the pdf (booklet, books). > migrate the mooc to the makefile generator developed by luc. > make sure that it works for Pillar 50 and 60. > migrate other pillar projects to use the same. > > BTW we do not really want to have multiple version of the syntax. > For example Pillar 50 and 60 are the same from a syntax point of view. > > On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 11:24 AM, H. Hirzel <hannes.hirzel(a)gmail.com> > wrote: >> Alistair, >> >> Thank you for the link to the Pillar syntax summary >> >> http://pillarhub.pharocloud.com/hub/pillarhub/pillarcheatsheet >> >> and the confirmation that the constructs there work in Pharo 6 & 7 for >> basic cases. This is fine for me at the moment. >> >> >> Stephan D >> Thanks for being ready to check the full feature support in Pillar. >> >> A suggestion: >> A new style sheet could come as well together with a test document >> (with version indication included) for the Pillar parser. >> >> Then it is straightforward to determine if a particular Pillar >> installation supports a particular Pillar markup version. >> >> The Pillar-Tests-PetitPillar package tests individual features but not >> all in one go. If we have a test case which tests all features in one >> go it has a triple function: >> 1) It is a syntax summary of all features. >> 2) It serves as a living documentation. >> 3) It helps to determine if a particular pillar installation in an >> image supports a particular Pillar version. >> >> --Hannes >> >> On 8/23/17, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> +Handling all the cases: summing a die/die handle with a die/die >>> handle >>> .>file://figures/DieDoubleDispatchFull.pdf|width=70|label=figDieDoubleDispatchFull+ >>> >>> See Figure *@figDieDoubleDispatchFull* for internal ref is missing. >>> >>> Two Column is missing. I do not know it works in Latex. >>> >>> I will try to create one a new style sheet. >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 9:46 PM, Alistair Grant <akgrant0710(a)gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>>> On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 09:11:47PM +0200, H. Hirzel wrote: >>>>> Thanks, it is useful. >>>>> Date is 24 June 2014. >>>>> Not sure if it is the latest version for what I have now in Pharo 6. >>>>> >>>>> --Hannes >>>> >>>> True, but it only covers the basic text mark-up and I don't think that >>>> has changed recently. Anyway, I haven't found anything wrong with it >>>> in >>>> Pharo 6 & 7 (admittedly, with only basic pillar usage). >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Alistair >>>> >>>> >>>>> On 8/23/17, Alistair Grant <akgrant0710(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> > How about: >>>>> > >>>>> > http://pillarhub.pharocloud.com/hub/pillarhub/pillarcheatsheet >>>>> > >>>>> > Cheers, >>>>> > Alistair >>>> >>> >>> > >

Aug. 25, 2017

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pillar] Installed the Pillar document preparation system into 6.1, how do I start using it?

by Tudor Girba

On Aug 25, 2017, at 8:53 AM, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: > > >> Am 24.08.2017 um 22:34 schrieb Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self(a)gmail.com>: >> >> In Pharo 60 (and not in Pharo 50) I extracted the command line logic >> into a specific object so that we do not have to be bound to use the >> command line. You can have a look in the CLI package. >> >> This is good that there is Section 7 this in the doc. We started to >> build a simple Morphic renderer for Pillar. >> We should continue. If someone wants to have fun. This would be nice >> to have see it coming to live. >> > A morphic renderer? Wouldn't it be fun to do one for bloc? I think we should slowly collect some tools that use bloc in order to get the tension making it the "default" thingie. On its way :) Doru >> On my todo: I also want to use mustache inside Pharo and not >> generating files on the disk. >> > That should be doable by deleting some code. > > Norbert > >> Stef >> >> On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 10:08 PM, H. Hirzel <hannes.hirzel(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> Exactly. >>> >>> Section 7 of >>> https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/EnterprisePharoBook/lastSuccessf… >>> >>> has an example >>> >>> >>> | wiki | >>> wiki := '!My Document'. >>> PRPillarParser parse: wiki >>> >>> >>> Or >>> >>> PRPillarParser parse: (FileSystem workingDirectory / 'foo.pillar') >>> readStream >>> >>> >>> and then >>> >>> >>> PRHTMLWriter write: document >>> >>> >>> This put together gives >>> >>> PRHTMLWriter write: ( >>> PRPillarParser parse: (FileSystem workingDirectory / 'welcome.pillar') >>> ) >>> >>> >>> If I inspect the result of this expression I get the HTML string. >>> >>> Thank you Cyril. This is what I was looking for. >>> >>> --Hannes >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 8/18/17, Cyril Ferlicot <cyril.ferlicot(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> On ven. 18 aoÃ»t 2017 at 21:43, H. Hirzel <hannes.hirzel(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thank you Cyril for the link to the tutorial. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/EnterprisePharoBook/lastSuccessf… >>>>> >>>>> I see that Pillar is a command line tool. The welcome example taken >>>>> from this tutorial is: >>>>> >>>>> Pharo.exe Pillar.image pillar export --to=html >>>>> --outputFile=welcome welcome.pillar >>>>> >>>>> How can I run a command like this from within Pharo in a "playground" >>>>> (former workspace)? >>>>> >>>>> Later on I plan to construct a simple GUI with text boxes for Pillar >>>>> sources and have some buttons executing these commands. >>>>> >>>>> --Hannes >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> I remember writing a part "Pillar from Pharo" in this doc. I'm not sure it >>>> is still up to date but you can try to check part 7 of the doc I sent. >>>> -- >>>> Cyril Ferlicot >>>> https://ferlicot.fr >>>> >>>> http://www.synectique.eu >>>> 2 rue Jacques PrÃ©vert 01, >>>> 59650 Villeneuve d'ascq France >>>> >>> > -- www.tudorgirba.com www.feenk.com "Problem solving efficiency grows with the abstractness level of problem understanding."

Aug. 25, 2017